Okay, RELAX. My oldest son is about to turn five and no, he isn't still breastfeeding, but I got your attention didn't I?
Seriously, this is a mini-rant about breastfeeding and the lack of tolerance that exists. I believe it is due to a lack of the correct perspective, so I am going to help out with that part.
I breastfed 3 children. They weaned at 22 months (gasp!), 14 months (mini gasp), and I am currently weaning my 11 month old (she is down to 2 feedings per day and well, she tried to bite off my nipple the other day and I decided --- it is time!) So, I consider myself to be among the "mainstream" as far as "normal" nursing duration goes.
BUT, I think it is hilarious that people gasp and shriek and whatever else when they see or most likely read about someone nursing a child until an older age (like 3, 4, or 5 years old) And, this is why I think this:
1. No one gasps, shrieks, or posts that neighbor-so-and-so formula feeds her child. After all it is everyone's right to chose their method of feeding. It's her body, her right. Why doesn't that apply the other way around? It is a mother's right to nurse however long she wants. If the power-that-be decided that extended nursing psychologically messed with a kid, then they need to do something about it. Until then, it is still her right.
2. Speaking of breastmilk --- When PETA put out a press release this past summer about wanting to introduce breastmilk to things like icecream and other dairy products (some craziness about it being healthier and about abusing dairy cows and poor "working" conditions for the cows) people WIGGED OUT! I can here them now ---- GROSS BOOBIE MILK is in my icecream! But yet we drink milk from a COW BOOB on a regular basis --- now please tell me HOW is milk from a HUMAN boob GROSSER than milk from a cow boob. Have you seen how cow's live? I used to live next to a dairy farm ---- the stench alone was enough to turn me off the dairy! Now, before dairy farmers try to sue me for libel or defamation of the dairy industry, I am not Oprah, do not have millions and this is just my opinion and I know that you THINK your cows are well treated, and that they are "clean" etc.... But, I know they don't shower twice a day or sleep on a pillow top mattress like I do. I don't lay on the ground, or in my own poo, so by default, my nipples are definitely cleaner! But yet my milk is less appealing? GO FIGURE.
3. Not to mention that human milk is formulated BY HUMANS for HUMANS --- enough said. I don't know who decided we should drink milk created by cows for other cows, but somewhere, the brilliant idea was hatched and well, it stuck. Do you know that we are the only species that continues drinking milk past weaning from either mother's milk or a bottle? No other species drinks milk into adulthood --- let alone another animal's milk. And we wonder why some people have dairy intolerance --- we're not cows!
4. Now some argue that extended breastfeeding damages the child. I am not a child psychologist and have not personally studied this, but I do know that my children still snuggle me and want my affection --- my almost 5 year old kissed me on the lips (gasp!) this morning and well, it was a sweet, innocent, non-sexual kiss. Nursing doesn't have to have a sexual conotation just because there is a boob involved --- why do people see extended nursing as perverted? The same 5-year-old son told me that when daddy is done being married to me, it's his turn. Kids are SO innocent. Too bad it's the adults that are perverse!
People are uncomfortable with iextended breastfeeding because it isn't the social norm (in this country anyway), but can we instead try to understand that most moms are simply trying to do what is best for their own child. I am not necessarily suggesting we all continue nursing for extended periods nor am I going to --- I would like my nipples still attached and miss-biter-pants is getting weaned with or without her permission!--- but I am just trying to point out that if we want tolerance for ourselves, then apply that tolerance to other people.
I for one have been nursing and/or pregnant for the past 6 years --- I am so done with both it's not even funny. But, that doesn't mean I need to judge another mother because those 6 years of nursing have all been with the same child! It just means that she has a different idea of what is best and healthiest for her child. It's amazing to me that I am supposed to be tolerant of ideas like abortion and a woman's right to choose, but that right to choose isn't applied uniformally across the board.
Rant over --- now comment away!


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I've seen moms do the same thing when they have a toddler and a baby, even if the toddler has been weaned already.
Once my son pushed me away (he wanted more freedom in his eating/drinking) at 7 months (thank goodness since he did have his first teeth), he had to drink soy formula because he was allergic to cow milk and even goat milk. Back then, there were not lots of cartons of soy milk available, so he had to drink baby formula until he was almost kindergarten age. (Then we started mixing soy with milk, and eventually he could drink just milk.) No one questioned the fact that the soy was better for him. Why, I wonder, do people question breast milk?
Good topic by the way.
i SO agree with this. i don't understand how everyone isn't naturally repulsed by cow's milk. ewwww.
great post. i plan to breastfeed my future kids until two-threeish - i'm hoping to let them wean themselves, and around 2 1/2 is the age i see most kids lose interest naturally.
Then she suddenly seemed to decide she was here for the long game and started eating like a demon. The dr said that my wife breast feeding (then expressing it, as she was only given one week off work) was something that has helped my daughter thrive.
We were very very scared those first few days.
I think that a lot of the Breast feeding controversy is to do with sex, and peoples own weird thoughts about sex and the relationship between breasts and sex.
Oh and yes when they have teeth i would stop as well!
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Doctors encourage it all the way up till 5, I think. I wish people didn't make such a big deal out of it. That's why women have mammary glands in the first place.
That being said, I think the breast milk is fine, but after the baby gets teeth, the breast milk should probably go in the bottle. That's only my opinion, and I would never judge someone.
I love the comment that said when a mom breastfeeds in public people freak out. But when a scantily clad woman walks in the room NO ONE (except moms!) are freaking out asking her to COVER UP and be DISCREET. There is such a double standard. Hello boobs come with mammary glands for a reason!
I had issues with ME doing it. My first was premie and I lost my milkd because I was not pumping long enough and things like that.
My second and third I only had milk for about 2 1/2 months. I fed them naturally.
With my last baby, she was a "ravenous eater" and literally tore me open every time. I spent two days in the hospital, was feeding correctly, still had problems, spent two days with her in the hospital for jaundice, the nurse said she and I had things down and were feeding correctly, and I ended up hurting so bad I finally threw in the towel at about 2 months and Hubby and I decided formula would not be that bad of an option.
I would have loved to feed them until at least a year old. It was not in the cards for me.
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Nursing doesn't have to have a sexual conotation just because there is a boob involved ---
Lee says
Anyone who thinks breastfeeding is a sexual act ... guess I can't generalize so I'll just say that for me, my breasts were either too tender from milk engorgement, too sore from the newness of being suckled and wet and washed and expanded and emptied, and then after the overstimulation maybe something like a reverse pain thing took over and my nipples were no longer sensitive to the same sexual stiumulation they had been before breastfeeding (I read somewhere that this happens ... "with proper latch-on and onset of milk production"). So ... in essence, one way or another the only physical satisfaction I got from breastfeeding came from feeling my breasts go from full to empty, and from the knowledge that my baby was getting lots of nutrition and comfort from me. The emotional satisfaction .... totally a 10. (nipple sensitivity did returen btw .. so if you are worried over that, don't. probably doesn't happen to everyone and if it does, be thankful for it lol)
Well, anyway ... I have three children only one of which breastfed, for different reasons. Funny, the doctors say there is no correlation but my breastfed child was the only one who didn't have a problem with acne, and he is a good 5 inches taller than both of my other children.
" . . . why do people see extended nursing as perverted? "
Lee says
+shrug+ Maybe because so much of ... "their" world is perverted that they perceive even the innocent rooting of a child to be something that it isn't? Orrr .. maybe because so many adults really do have such a perverted view of the world that they can't really imagine anyone else (much less a child) to not be after or thinking of the same perverted things? Or maybe because there really are adults out there who may actually engage in ... well, leave that ...
Also (or as a result of the above?), our culture seems to be foisting more and more sexual awareness onto our children (in many ways) and into even mature adult subconsciousnness. So much so that some adults may actually believe there are no innocent children left, and no innocent physical contact between adult and child; and in fact, some segments of society add to that unnecessary sexual awareness by actually targeting our children for even more of that 'cultural foisting' in the dubious name of "enlightenment" and "progress".
In the same vein, it seems to me as if too many adults today have already been conditioned (maybe from babyhood, but certainly from pre adolescence onward) to think that thinking in terms of sexuality is the norm for just everyday living from moment to moment --- we are stewing in latent as well as overt sexuality, causing people in general to forget (or think that it's backward to believe) that there really is "a time for everything" and that "all the time" isn't the time for anything ... resulting in a society that finds it hard to accept or even admit to the fact that there really is an innocent time in children's lives that ought to be respected and protected; not taken from or taught out of them (gee... guess I had a rant in me too).
Ok so I have never seen it put this way. ANd since you did and I read it it made me think about a lady I knew a few years back. She was all about the breastfeeding and how it is much better and so on well I know that breastfeeding is better- we all know.
I did breast feed one of my kids but it was to much pain for me to handle and 8 months was all I could take.
Back to the lady------- Ok so she felt like you- Nuse till you want it's your kid and it's your business but dang when I met her oldest and found out that he was still nursing at 10!!!!!!!!!!!!! that stinkin did it for me! I was shocked and disgusted.
C'MON a 10 year old?!
I could'nt stop staring I am sure I looked like a perv but I was shocked. And she was sitting there with a smile like if nothing and she kept on talking.
OK it was none of my business and if she wanted to nurse the boy till he was a senior in high school then so be it but I think it gets to a point where you gotta say no more.
To me it is a normal thing. God made our bodies this way and that is what it is for.
To feed your baby.
I find it funny that americans can easily sit there and watch a pornographic video and get off to it but yet think that nursing a baby is gross.
I find it hard to believe that women can be so scantly dressed (half naked) in public and it's ok but the minute you pop your boob out to FEED YOUR BABY you can get kicked out of a public place. Mind you most nursing moms are very discreet and have blankets to cover themselves.
I was so mad but I did keep my cool--
And everyone on the table was staring so I really had to watch what I said and HOw I said it.
So I just asked her politely " Would you go and eat your food in the bathroom?" SHe says "no that's gross!" SO I tell her "OK so you won't eat your food in the bathroom because it is gross but you want my baby to eat his food in the bathroom?"
And she shut up real wuick after that and they ate their food and they wwere the first to leave. What a dumb BUTT!
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How you feed your child is a very personal decision as you mentioned, and I don't think anyone should have anything to say about the issue, no matter what you decide. But don't think that those of us who bottle fed our kids had it any easier, because we didn't. We got lectured and reprimanded every time we fed our son, and by complete strangers and family too. As far as I'm concerned, my baby, my boobs, my business!
When I switched I felt so bad, and I got so many dirty looks and lectures as Jill said, mothers who choose to bottle feed get dirty looks as well....
Even when it's not really our fault that we aren't able to breast feed.
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With my second I breastfed until she was 2. People wouldn't get off my back about that and it drove me nuts. If you ask once and I give you an explanation (which I didn't have to do...ever) then why would you ask the SAME question, over and over again?
My third is 14 months old right now and people are already starting with me. I just change the subject, mumble something about not knowing or say "whenever".
It's so annoying for people to be up in my business. I don't comment negatively on their hair, clothing, taste in men, spending habits....because NONE of it is my business. Maybe the next time someone asks me why I am doing it for so long and when I am going to stop I will ask them when they plan to stop dying their hair such and ugly color or when they plan to stop wasting their money on something I don't agree with. I bet the look on their faces would be priceless.
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I think breastfeeding makes for healthier children and should be encouraged rather than discouraged if for no other reason than the psychological bond. Good for you for doing it. I was always as discreet as possible about it draping the baby when I was in public but I did not do it in a bathroom. If it bothered anyone, that was their problem. My first was weaned at about eleven months because I had some oral surgery and I didn't want him taking the medicine I was taking. My second was about two and a half. He weaned himself. It was very natural. They are both beautiful boys and I attribute that to a lack of cow's milk! ;-)
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I knew another whose child was taken away from her because when she was visited by a social worker after a neighbor complained she was breastfeeding this child on her front porch she told the social worker got a physical satisfaction of bonding from breastfeeding her four year old son and she was accused of sexual abuse, I wonder if it would have been the same way had she had a girl instead of boy.
People get too ditzy over the issue when there are more important things to be concerned about.
Plus, if you really read the post you would understand that my point isn't about breastfeeding my 6 year old as much as it is about a woman's right not to be judged by everyone for her choices in this area. A lot of women who bottle feed are just looking for tolerance and for no one to "pressure" them or judge the for not wanting to breastfeed. BUT, when someone who is breastfeeding even a "normal" amount of time does so in public, so many people don't extend the exact same tolerance and grace that they would want in the same situation.
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It does bother me greatly that people are upset about women nursing in public. I don't understand that at all. It gets my goat, especially the stories I hear about people on airplanes who complain and harrass nursing mothers. I'm thinking about a story I read two years ago, where a person on a flight sued the airline for allowing a mother nurse her child on the plane. The person said it scarred his ten year old child to see that. Oh brother! Why don't they worry more about what their child watched on TV that could scar them.
I appreciate this post. It gives me something to think about. I mean, if I were a mother, I would be infuriated if someone judged me about how I reared my child.
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That said, I do feel to each their own.
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Great article!