Biden: Palin "Kicked the Crap Out of Us"

Gosh, what a shocker...yet more lies from the flying butt monkey wingnuts.

Clark, I am hurt that you would question my journalistic integrity. Scooter's Report delivers only 100% accurate news and commentary :)

It's too bad that Ms. Palin had to resort to lying in her speech. And it seems that you've got a few lies in your article as well. But that's a typical Republican for you.

Thank you, Carla, for your keen intellectual insight. I had a problem with high school, too.

Scooter your voice is so familiar, which is odd considering your arrived 9/1/08. Hope you don't think I'm a bigot for thinking you all sound alike.

Sandy: It's OK, I know I sound alike.

Junk journalism, not surprising when your party is the underdog. Palin lied, but she's a soccer mom so we must forgive her. LOL, pittbull with lipstick, she claims. Sounds like GW Bush's resolve to me. And McCain following Bin Laden to the gates of hell. Maybe he should have left the Congress to pursue that a long time ago.

You're a blithering idiot, wingnut.

Clark, I don't think Rosa See Ya deserves that kind of response, no matter how ignorant her views.

Is this humor? If so, why is it not humorous? It may be a humerus, but I need to see the X-Rays.

Pitbull Palin - one fierce bitch...in lipstick!

I like it! Tastes good. Yummy.

I also like how the libs have been shut-up by her strong performance. No one uttered the B word until today.... and now they're desperate and angry. Please, keep using that sort of language -- it will only make the party more resolute.

""Palin clearly has the brains and brawn to handle two socialists with the combined IQ of a bicycle seat.""

I do not think that referring to Brian Moore and Stewart Alexander
(http://www.votebrianmoore.com/)
as having "the combined IQ of a bicycle seat" is fair or accurate.

The education of the presidential candidates of the Socialist Party are impeccable, at least compared to that of the GOP candidates.

Brian Moore :

• Masters Degree, Public Administration (MPA), Arizona State University, 1976
• Bachelors Degree, Philosophy, Mission San Luis Rey College, California, 1966
• Graduate School, California State University, Los Angeles, Political Science,1968

Stewart Alexander:

• Attended California State University
• Air Force Reserve

CJ, I think we both know I was referring to B. Hussein and Slow Joe.

Palins' SHOCK and AWE

THE IRAQ WAR ALL OVER AGAIN?

OK - I am convinced Sarah Pallin is tough as nails but feminen at the same time. She reminds me of a hostile Goldy Hawn. Polls indicate she may have won a victory last night but will she and the Republican's win their war?

She is indeed a "pit bull" and earns the right to be nick named Sarah Barracuda. But she also lacks vision. I thought that the Republicans need to gain enough votes from the independents to add to the solid base to be able to win the election. I think she will get some but probably turn greater numbers of them off.

The mantra of the Republican's is Country first. But the zingers, the tone, the sarcasm, the adolescent humor was hardly inclusive and conciliatory. Rather it was derisive and devisive. Just whose country are the Republicans talking about? Not mine!

The Republicans had a golden opportunity to be serious and talk to Americans sensibly and objectively. I guess the truth is they have very little of substance to offer so they resort to all the tactics that have been known to "work." Winning the election is everything - the end justifies the means.

In this connection McCain has the ultimate responsibility for setting the tone and thrust of the attitudes that guide his campaign. It is his choice to sell himself out - endorsing values he has discounted for years in the service of winning the election at all costs.

Some flip-flopping is no big deal. Flip flopping on essential values is a very big deal.

Making the point crystal clear is an article in today's New York Times called: Serving a Cause and a Desire to Succeede by Mark Leibovich and David D. Kirkpatrick

"As he accepts the Republican presidential nomination... John McCain stands at the pinnacle of a career defined by a singular ambivalence about his own ambition,and success. Time and time again, he lunges for the prize, then lashes himself for letting his pursuit get the better of him - for doing favors for his patron Charlkes H. Keating Jr., for stooping to ugly attacks on George W. Bush during the 2000 primary, for outbursts of temper at lawmakers who get in his way.

It reflects what his brother calls "a public dialectic"between the Senator's drive to succeed and his desire to serve a higher cause. For decades his outward display of that inner conflict has proved advantageous, helping advance his career by forging his image as the un-politican, the candidate with an almost reckless disregard for his own fortunes.

HIs critics assert that the McCain of 2008 is not the McCain of 2000, or even 2007. He has surrounded himself with former proteges of Karl Rove, whose tactics he once denounced, embraced positions he once repudiated and initiated a series of attacks on Senator Barak Obama's patriotism that some say resemble the rhetorical rough -housing he regretted eight years ago. "Bring Back the Real McCain!" the cover of the Economist magazine implored last week.

The real McCain seems to be revealed in the last two paragraphs of the Times article. Paragraph one is what his best backers want to believe about him; the last paragraph is what McCain really believes about himself.

"His associates say Mr. McCain has come to see the presidential race in starkly moral terms, convinced that Mr. Obamas' election would weaken American at a decisive moment for the security of the world. But Mr. McCain is also the first to confess that not all his drives are so selfless."

"I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism, "he wrote in 2002." "In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president." He added,"I had the ambition for a long time."

That sounds authentic but harldy fulfilling the mantra of Country First.

So what should the Democrats do? I would have them do what the Saddham Hussein soldiers did after our shock and awe attacks. Give us enough rope to make us feel we have them on the ropes and then attack their flanks.

Obama anbd Biden should be polite, humorous, but serious. They should not get seduced into a p...ng contest. Confuse the Republicans by an avalanche of the facts. That should eventually unglue both John McCain and Sarah Palin. Behind the bluster, nasty insults, trivializing important issues is the undeniable fact that the Republicans have rendered us bankrupt on multiple levels.

The Democrats need remain steady and like a lazer beam: keep the light shining on the true state of affairs, and true to the highest and the best.

gibbs,

I think you heard some facts and direction last night. Sorry you don't "feel" good about them. Hang on for a few decades and America will continue to shift left as it has for the last 5 decades until a more suitable socialistic state evolves for you to be happy in. OR you can find other countries right now that are even semi free and go be happy there. No need to change the America the rest of us love. There is no other country like ours and I and others are quite satisfied in fixing the broken parks to keep in in tact rather than change it into something it was never intended to be.

I would like to see what see really thinks or does she?

Capt,

Michael Moore? What are you referring to??

BTW, Nice job attacking the United Negro College Fund. I'm sure your mom is proud of you.

Scooter,

You are assuming. The only Socialists running are Brian Moore and Stewart Alexander.

Fear tactics only work on the dimwitted, so I suppose your Hussein remark is aimed at your GOP brethren.

Gibbs, your call to "remain steady and like a lazer beam: keep the light shining on the true state of affairs, and true to the highest and the best" (!) sounds very Obama-esk (i.e. it evokes feelings, but is totally meaningless), it's pretty much contrary to what your party must do.

I think we both know that the Democrats can only succeed if they can convince the citizens of this country that they are, contrary to facts, less-employed, poorer, sicker, and more at danger than they were at the beginning of the present administration - in other words, Obama and Biden need to lie like there's no tomorrow.

Fortunately, not every person in this county is a welfare recipient or historically ignorant.

Cliff notes: Truth + Democrats = Oil + water.

BTW, you really must see my post:

8 Reasons Sarah Palin is More Qualified than Barack Obama

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?memberId=292280&articleId=281474977439508&nav=MyGather

C.J. We have heard B. Hussein's proposals for wealth "redistribution". He's a socialist.

Interesting, you insist on using the 'Hussein' fear tactic. Lowbrow at best, nescient at worst.

If you actually took the time to read the proposals (instead of just looking at the pictures), you would notice that his plan results in a net tax savings for those making under $250,000.

If you consider a tax break for 98% of the US population to be 'Socialism', you are truly ignorant.

If you are in the elite 2%, then I have no sympathy for you.

CJ: The fact you "have no sympathy" for me if I am successful (I am), says everything about you and your ilk.
People like me employ people and drive this economy. You and your party's class warfare / welfare mentality is counter to everything that built this country. That's why business owners hate B. Hussein's idiotic counter-productive policies.
This isn't a socialist country, and we don't need socialist solutions, or a clueless socialist leader.

Uh, what's the problem with socialism or at least adopting some of the socialist ideas that serve so many countries so well? We've never had a free enterprise economy in the US so it's not like we have a religious commitment to Adam Smith. We actually tried privatized fire and police services in the 18th and 19th centuries and gave up on the idea. Privatized military has never worked well in thousands of years of experiment. Our experience in Iraq with it provides more evidence.

I am a middle-aged, middle class successful owner of a small business and was a lifelong Republican until January. Ask my friends and they would have told you I am about as conservative as they get.

I used to believe that providing tax incentives for the rich (we are talking ultra-rich here because that is where the incentives are) and for large corporations would lead to more job creation, which would then trickle down to the workers who would then have more buying power and a greater quality of life. I voted Republican most of my life for that very reason. Well, it hasn't worked. For most Americans, the quality of life has deteriorated. An incredible number of people are choosing between food, gas and whether or not they can afford to go to the doctor. My generation is far worse off than my parents' generation, and I am concerned about my children and grandchildren if things continue on this downward spiral. Only a fortunate few have benefited -- CEO salaries are out of control, tax incentives favor the ultra-rich, and health care is only affordable to some. The war has cost our nation dearly in terms of lives lost, our reputation in the world, and crumbling economy and infrastructure back home.

So, Scooter Van Neuter (are you related to Scooter Libby by chance?), it is hard-working people who built this country. That's not socialism, that's entrepreneurship.

Sounds like you're stuck in the past if you are talking stereotypes like "welfare mentality" and "socialism." Too bad for you -- we are on to the future!

Wasn't she awesome. And 37.2 million people watched - as many as watched Obama.

Prima Donna, do you think that $250,000 is now ultra rich? That's where Obama's FIRST taxes will be focused.

Obvious that you are an alter that doesnt have the balls to post this on your normal ID.

Sad to be so gutless.

CJ,

Not sure!?! Let me reload my bong and I'll get back to you.

remind me not to read your attempts at insults, posts, in the future.

Dear Captain - The last time I looked what you refer to as your country is also my country too. I am glad you are satisfied with the status quo - to me it sucks and is criminal to boot. I hope when the Democrats when Biden will make good his threat and shove Cheney, the ex Atty General, Rove and company into jail. Bring on the debates and let the best man (perhaps woman) win.

To the left wingnuts,
There you go again. Nothing intelligent, just name calling. Pity!

such a hateful divide! Republicans are all liars? Sad to be so bitter. McCain is anything but the status quo. Bush hates him and even the hardline Republicans dislike his maverick style. You want real leadership and change, vote McCain. The horrors of the Democrats have been exposed with the disgusting rumors about Palin. Incest! Faking a pregnancy! Demanding DNA Tests? Absurd accusations because they are afraid. Hillary Clinton is now laughing at her fellow Dems.

Very creative!

Prima Donna, you said " My generation is far worse off than my parents' generation."
You are either lying or horribly delude/deceived if you truly believe this - facts say quite the opposite.
Also, I know MANY business owners, and they are absolutely terrified of Obama's wealth redistribution plans.

CNN is reporting tonight that after Palin's speech, Barack Obama's campaign received a record $10 million in one-day donations. The Republican Party announced earlier in the day it had raised $1 million in the wake of Palin's speech.

"Coverage of the Palin attacks on the news this evening just pushed us over $10 million," Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in an e-mail to reporters Wednesday night.

Make that $10,000,025. I just send in another small donation myself.

y'all lookin a liddle defensive here...

LOL I have been listening to the Libs dig deep in their pitty fits all day. The Libs are really scared as hell now, they have a real fght on their hands and no one to defend them.

This was funny!!

Scooter Van Neuter ~~

Your journalistic skills are impeccable. This is the most spectacular post I have seen on Gather for awhile. So much truth!

Thank you Aimee, I'm all about the truth ;)

Scooter,

Then don't vote for Brian Moore and Stewart Alexander.

Capt,

What does Michael Moore have to do with this discussion?

funny

Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law and you say that his IQ along with the IQ of one of the most respected man in the Senate and in the world for his Foreign affairs expertise is hat of a bicycle seat... Wow , what would that make your IQ, The same as the smell on a bicycle seat after someone rides it for 12 straight hours right after eating a ton of refried beans?

I understand though, jokes are all you have because you have no facts to go on.. In FACT after eight years of having a JOKE of a GWB/McCain/Rove Admin and actually thinking it was a Good thing all I would be able to do while in the mental institution would be to make jokes also!

You know what I really think is hysterical, the fact that anyone thinks that those that want Obama to win or the Obama campign itself is now afraid because of Sarah "I was before the bridge, before I was against it" Palin! It is so funny all along how the Neo-Cons have had to back track when hit with another zinger. I can't wait to hear how Palin cost McCain the election from the same people that think so much of her now after she is exposed for being the true hypocritcal phony she is.

Bob C: "Wow , what would that make your IQ, The same as the smell on a bicycle seat after someone rides it for 12 straight hours right after eating a ton of refried beans?"

Bob, I really think you should leave the comedy to me...... :)

BTW, Your impassioned and intelligent rebuke has shamed me into admitting I was wrong about Obama and Biden's IQ. I should have said, "It's obvious McCain isn't much needed in this race, Palin clearly has the brains and brawn to handle two socialists with the combined IQ of a swim fin."

Sorry!

Perhaps Scoots can explain why it took Sarah Palin six years and six degrees to get her degree in journalism from the University of Idaho.

Here's a hint: At the time she ran for governor, when asked whether she thought the words "under God" should remain in the Pledge of Alledgiance, she said hecky yes. If they were good enough for the founding fathers, they're good enough for Sarah Palin. "Under God" we all know, was inserted into the pledge in the 1950s. Not sure which founding fathers she is referring to.

Good catch Julia.

Bill,

Are you Mom and Baby Daddy proud of you for using racial slurs?

Julia: Nice try, but our founding fathers extensively did use the phrase "under God" (read their stuff, it's very enlightening).

Palin didn't make any claims that the founding fathers wrote the Pledge.

PS: I'm sure the whole "God" thing infuriates you :)

PSS: And you're supporting for PRESIDENT a guy who believes there are 57 states? :)

Ignorant response, are you referring to the 57 states, districts and territories?

Would you like a recap of John McCain's misspeaks??

Scooter, I love your writing style... Isnt it amazing how they refer to Bammy as being so smart? I was going to get to the 57 states... and if he were so smart why, surround yourself with unsavory characters whose dirty deeds will come back to bit you in the a--?
I cant remember where I heard this, I think it was on tv but it made sense to me.... the people run around with in your youth is your future.... I guess bammy made his future, when hanging around with William Ayers, Rev. Wright.... and all the other racists in his life... including his wife Michelle....

I like your quick wit.... You put out the best come backs...

Reality is For $1000.00 Alex;

Robert --

John McCain and the Republicans had all week to make their case -- and they didn't do it.

The whole Republican convention went by without offering a single idea about how to improve the lives of ordinary Americans.

People noticed. In the last 24 hours, more people donated to this campaign for the first time than ever before. Thank you for responding so strongly.

Barack is making clear what this election should be about. At a campaign stop in Pennsylvania yesterday, he spoke out about exactly what we didn't hear at the Republican convention.

Funny, loved the commentary

Scooter you seem to be slumming, where did all these Democraps come from? did you kick a rock. Palin lied? prove it or back under the rock. It doesn't seem to bother any of you that the Messiah can't find his butt with both hands, or that he consistently lies. Oh wait let me finish my waffle.

Why anyone wastes their time on crap this human excrement posts is way beyond me.

You clowns sure post some funny sh*t:-)

Delete me you with the leetle weewee.

Scooter, apparently you don't notice poor Todd being drug around by the big ring in his nose. I know he must hate the hell out of DC, it isn't his thing. He'll probably stay behind in Alaska to maintain his sanity like he did when he couldn't stand it in Juneau and they all moved back to Wasilla. Oh yeah, I can see the new 2nd white house in Wasilla right now.

But then you don't really know anything about the Palin's do you. Only what the pub's tell you.

Sorry Scooter, you're really not very interesting to me.

gosh, but thanks so much for your compliment, do you use a dictionary?

Elitism is the belief or attitude that those individuals who are considered members of the elite — a select group of people with outstanding personal abilities, intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern [1

and by the way, I am a rather, happy, cheerful ex republican.

Why do some of these keyboarders revert to potty mouthing as a response to a comment they can't understand or agree with? That automatically flips them into the very same nut category that they so quickly try to populate with anyone else who disagrees with them.

Good article SVN.

I hope those brains can carry her to a presidential nomination in 2012, she was clearly a lot stronger than McCain as a candidate and stands for more of what conservatives want to see.