May 27, 2008 02:08 PM EDT
(Updated: May 29, 2008 04:05 PM EDT)
University Avenue physically runs through St. Paul and Minneapolis as much as it travels through the cities' history. It reportedly has one of the busiest intersections in Minnesota (at Snelling, of course) and carries more than just traffic - retail, services, and restaurants rise and fall on the thoroughfare. What does it hold for the future?
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Comments: 12
When I started at the U, I had a job (for one quarter) at 1919 University (where the Purchasing department resided for the university). I'd catch a bus after my last class and head straight to 1919, and liked watching out the window on my way - and when I spied Porky's drive-in restaurant, I knew I'd reached my destination. Porky's wasn't open back then, but thankfully, someone renovated it and it's been in operation for years. I also love the Axe Man on University, and the funky vintage shops (go to Swank, folks, you'll love it!).
It's always been a sign post for me, providing me with a homebase. When I lived in St. Paul, I could get anywhere as long as I had the directions starting at University Avenue.
I think my two most deeply ingrained memories are of people no longer living. I remember standing at the bus stop on University and Snelling in such bitter cold I stomped the soles of my cowboy boots all the way through. I was waiting for the last bus run around 1:00 in the morning. I found a payphone (no cells then) and called my sister who was asleep, hoping for a ride home. She told me, "C'est la vie, ma soeur" and went back to bed.
My other poignant memory is standing close to the intersection of Raymond and University in late October, 2002. It was dark and cold, but floodlights lit up thousands and thousands of flowers, posters, cards, all sorts of mementos left for Paul Wellstone and his planemates. How can any Minnesotan forget that?
Porky's on a Friday and Saturday night. That will go way once light rail comes in. That's why they are rebuilding in Nordeast Mpls. I bring my 12 year old son once or so a summer to Porky's and look at the cars. I love watching the hot rods go up and down University.
During the MSRA "Back to the Fifties" car show each summer, I love watching the cars come all the way down to my neighborhood in Highland Park, that won't happen with light rail plugging Snelling and University.
I worry about University Avenue with light rail coming. This "we gotta hurry up and build light rail down University while we can get the money no matter if the details aren't worked out" bugs me. Many business' will close during construction and never come back. They are not building enough stations on University. The bus stops alot now that's why people use it. The bus line down University is one of the highest used routes. People aren't gonna want to walk 6-8 blocks in 90F or -5F weather to get to the limited station. Driving to most stores will suck, I don't see them making it. The intersection of Snelling and Univ, the gateway to Rosedale and the stores north of University for people of Highland Park and Mac Groveland will become impossible. I plan on going the other way to Highway 5 to the Bloomington Richfield 494 strip for those stores I need to go to.
University Ave will lose most of it's charactor. University Ave will not serve the people of the neighborhood once light rail comes in.
What I liked about their electric train is exactly that it didn't stop on every block. Our pudgy, well actually, obese society could use the exercise walking six to eight blocks to hop on the train.
The compelling need, imo, for light rail is its potential for efficiency and thereby its potential to decrease our reliance on highly polluting activities--a private vehicle.
And the other deal about ruining business is that it might happen the other way around. While walking from Avon to Lexington to catch the light rail, I might stop at the corner store to pick up a couple items. If I'm in my car, I woudn't be as likely to do that. If I only had to walk one block to the bus stop, I wouldn't even see that corner store.
Why must we spend $500 million to replace rubber wheels with steel wheels? Could we not re-arrange the street to make green rubber-wheeled buses just as efficient and effective as steel wheeled one's.
Think of all the rubber-wheeled bus services we could provide with the $500 million.
In other words, I agree with Frick.