The Sandy Hook hoax theory is still making waves, despite there being many holes in the viral video that supposedly shows the entire thing to be a fake. But, were the words of the most outspoken "truther" actually taken out of context?
Apparently, the Florida professor who said that he believes the tragedy didn't happen...never actually said that. At least not in those words.
Anderson Cooper came to the defense of those who lost loved ones on December 14 in the mass shooting by asking the professor, James Tracy, to come on his show. Tracy refused but did offer a statement which read:
"I apologize for any additional anguish and grief my remarks—and how they have been taken out of context and misrepresented—may have caused the families who've lost loved ones on December 14. At the same time I believe the most profound memorial we can give the children and educators who lost their lives on that day is to identify and interrogate the specific causes of their tragic and untimely demise."
So is James Tracy saying that he never said that there was a conspiracy? It seems like his words spurred the Sandy Hook hoax phenomenon, so if he never actually said that it was a hoax, then why are all these "truthers" trying to prove something so stupid?
Anderson Cooper blasted Tracy for his comments, so hopefully others will get the hint and focus on the families and their suffering not making up lies based on pieces of information that they find on the internet.
Do you believe the Sandy Hook hoax theory?
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Comments: 17
I do not understand believing this nonsense, but I also on a basic level do not understand the impulse to even look for alternative explanations of reality.
And reports that there were four handguns found inside the school and no rifle were what, just wrong? And all the .223 rifle casings found in the school came from what, a handgun?
And what, a mentally disturbed man with no firearm experience was able to use a semi-automatic rifle with deadly effectiveness the very first time? And what, the rifle found in the car was or was not the murder weapon? And what, he had plenty of time to go out to the car and put it away and get four handguns to bring back into the school before killing himself?
And no possible issue with the fact both the shooter's father and the Aurora Colorado shooter's father were both scheduled to testify in what may become the biggest financial scandal in history (LIPOR), which could implicate both Treasury Secretary Geithner and Fed Chairman Bernanke? And what, no problem with the car belonging to an alleged burglar who lived with other alleged career criminals in another town?
No issue with the shooter possibly having been on agression-encouraging psychotropic drugs? No need to investigate reports that the shooter's mother was CIA or ex-CIA with access to sensitive information?
No possible questions about the timing of this incident coming so soon after Obama had declared gun control a priority for his second administration, and the fact it was perhaps the most emotion-charged mass killing yet, involving very young American children for the first time ever on this scale?
No folks, nothing to see here. Move along please. But do support imposing lots of new gun regulations, most of which had no direct relevence whatever to the horror of Newtown, and some of which were retreads from wish lists gun ban groups had suggested in the past but which had been rejected as impractical or even counterproductive.
I also on a basic level do not understand the impulse to even look for alternative explanations of reality O M G How absurd! Same thinking that has been used to stifle innovation and the truth for millenia. No doubt the same logic used against Galileo when had the temerity to suggest that the earth revolved around the sun. Same logic critics used to try to discourage Columbus to think he could get to the East by travelling west. Totally anti-scientific!
"I do not know what exactly happened, and I don't think anyone yet really does"
that is the normal starting place for conspiracists. Reality is fluid, so let's make something up that is more pleasurable. Is it unpleasant that a 20 year old was able to kill 26 with a Bushmaster bought by his paranoid mom? Well, sure it is. So let's go with another story. But unfortuntely, the 20 year old shooting up the school happens to be real.
What's your theory. Get specific, please. Was Lanza actually a harmless boy? Did the CIA drag him into the school, then shoot him, his mother, plus all the others, solely in order to push gun control legislation? Don't tell me that the kids never existed, because their parents are clearly aware that they did.
The essential craziness here amazes me. And I am used to alot of crazy, because I spend waaaay too much time on Gather.
"I also on a basic level do not understand the impulse to even look for alternative explanations of reality O M G How absurd! Same thinking that has been used to stifle innovation and the truth for millenia. No doubt the same logic used against Galileo when had the temerity to suggest that the earth revolved around the sun. Same logic critics used to try to discourage Columbus to think he could get to the East by travelling west. Totally anti-scientific!"
You wilfully misunderstand me. I am not arguing that we need to ignore evidence and go with our feelings. I am arguing that we need to trust our senses. I am arguing, NOT that Galileo should have ignored the evidence of his eyes and gone along with the Pope, but rather that Galileo was the guy with the telescope, so he was the only one who had the evidence behind his position.
In total, there is already far too much evidence in hand from law enforcement for anyone to argue that Lanza was not the perp, or that the whole thing was staged.
What a Conspiracy theorist (or ny) would say is "OK this is what REALLY happened".
Eagle did not say that at all - he said there were sone odd things, that he was uncertain about.
That is called healthy skeptisism.
What you are doing, is called irrational acceptance (of anything you are told, without question).
I too have questions - what DID happen to that 2nd and 3rd person arrested?
Why was the gun reported later, a an assault rifle, when no one can even GET a true assault rifle - a bushmaster simply has some decorations to make it look a lot like oone - it still is not one.(You DO know I hopem those tiny cars ther Shriners drive in parades, are not real firetrucks, tanks, cars, or horses right? They are simply souped up, decorated golf carts!).
If you saw the local news reports, the gun ion the trunk was a pump shotgun - I woudl guess it to be a 12 gauge. NOT a rifle, and not even automatic! But that was scrubbed, and now they show a bushmaster varmint gun, with cosmetic additions, that is STILL not a true Assault Rifle.
Over and over again, the media refers to automatic weapons.
You can NOT go buy an automatic weapoin in this country, at any gun store, any gun show, on line, off line, or in your dreams!
You MIGHT buy one, after a year long investigation by FBI, 10 to 12,000 bucks in licensing fees, plus the cost of the weapon, and have an FFL permit.
Other than that - you are out of luck,
Did it happen? You be3tcha - was it horrific and a dispicable tragedy YES!
Did it happen exactly as they are now reporting it, and with the automatic assault rifles the news discusses, like piers morgan said can shoot hundreds of rounds at a time, in only a mionute or two? NO! It is impossible,
So why are they reporting what are obvious lies?
I dont know - but I would like too know.
And again, a conspiracy person would say I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I CAN tell you what the truth is !
Like what you do.
“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″
and yes he pulled a trigger.
So?
Can an idiot plan something like that, avoid detectoin till it is over, and pull off a 1 in a million shot?
If you do NOT at least wonder about that - then I have some ocean front property for you in Arizona, and a bridge for you to invest in in Manhatten.
oh please. For one thing, even an idiot can get enough practice in to become a good marksman. For another, the USA has an unlimited supply of idiots who want to get famous by assassinating someone. John Lennon's killer, for one. The guy who shot Reagan, for another- he only missed by an inch or two. Most Americans are not interested in assassinating Presidents or committing mass murder. But even if it is limited to one in ten thousand, if they all have an easy time getting the gun, you have a problem.
That shot was tried by dozens of actual professional marksmen - the best in the entire world - 4 or 5 of them were famous for it.
The best in the entire world tried it, and only 1 could pull it off - and that was not on the first try!
Mathmatically, the odds for a non-world champion marksman to shoot that magic bullet - is 1 in hundreds of trillions.
1 in ten thousand that are interested in mass murder etc?
you DO realise it has happened about a dozen times in as many years, and there are over 300 MILLION in the country?
So each year, one in 300 million ......................... a bit less than 1 in ten thousand .. and add them all togeher, and you have 1 in about 1 in 30 million over ten years.
You are in a subject about which you are totally clueless..
On top of that, to say getting a gun is (legally) easy, is simply mis-leading - you make it sound like buying a mars bar - 100 times harder than that.
Now to get one ILLegally, is simply a matter of knowing who to buy from - but they will still be able to do that in spite of any number of laws passed.
You may not realise it, but people that do illegal things, do not care what the laws are - there is a connection there, and it is much more than just the similar spelling.
No question the event happened.
But why it happened, and exactly how it happened are still pretty uncertain.
Add to that the inaccurate reporting of so-called facts ................. if you do NOT wonder what the full truth is, you should be in an institution.
If you believe 100% whatever the last reports were, forgetting all the previous facts, something is very wrong with you, and you need to back away from the crack pipe.
If you claim YOU know all the answers, and can guarantee it was all a conspiracy - you need to be in an institution.
NO one knows yet ............. and we may never know.
In short, it sounds like all of this other kind of bull that he gets accused of doing/being.etc. such as not being an American citizen even though he was born in Hawaii with a birth announcement in the paper to prove it.
In other words, just a bunch of Tea Party Trash Talk...