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by Loquacious Linda
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May 6, 2008

EXCLUSIVE: Benghazi-Gate *** Boots on the Ground *** Conflicting Stories *** Blue Mountain Security *** SOS Several Hrs. BEFORE 9:40 Claim *** "Safe Room" a Joke *** "Complete Incompetence" *** Media Complicit ***British Frustrated Too! (VIDEO)

November 03, 2012 05:00 PM UTC (Updated: November 03, 2012 05:24 PM UTC)
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Main networks, NBC, CBS, ABC are not reporting on the Benghazi attack and the loss of four lives?  As the story evolves, we learn there were many armed forces available to assist and wonder why an un-armed drone was sent instead of an armed drone?  The crap is piling pretty high on this administration, ultimately, on Obama's shoulders!


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Exclusive: Security officials on the ground in Libya challenge CIA account


Despite a carefully narrated version of events rolled out late this week by the CIA claiming agents jumped into action as soon as they were notified of calls for help in Benghazi, security officials on the ground say calls for help went out considerably earlier -- and signs of an attack were mounting even before that.

The accounts, from foreign and American security officials in and around Benghazi at the time of the attack, indicate there was in fact a significant lag between when the threat started to show itself and help started to arrive.

According to the CIA, the first calls for assistance came at 9:40 p.m. local time from a senior State Department official at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, to the CIA annex about a mile away.

But according to multiple people on the ground that night, the Blue Mountain Security manager, who was in charge of the local force hired to guard the consulate perimeter, made calls on both two-way radios and cell phones to colleagues in Benghazi warning of problems at least an hour earlier. Those calls allegedly went to local security contractors who say that the CIA annex was also notified much earlier than 9:40 p.m. U.S. military intelligence also told Fox News that armed militia was gathering up to three hours before the attack began.

One source said the Blue Mountain Security chief seemed "distraught" and said "the situation here is very serious, we have a problem." He also said that even without these phone and radio calls, it was clear to everyone in the security community on the ground in Benghazi much earlier than 9:40 p.m. that fighters were gathering in preparation for an attack.

Many of these security contractors and intelligence sources on the ground in Benghazi met twice a week for informal meetings at the consulate with Blue Mountain and consulate staff, and at times other international officials. They were all very familiar with security at the consulate -- and said the staff seemed "complacent" and "didn't seem to follow the normal American way of securing a facility."

Both American and British sources say multiple roadblocks set up by fighters believed to be with Ansar al-Sharia were in place in Benghazi several hours before the 9:40 p.m. timeline and that communications also alluded to "heavily armed troops showing up with artillery." Fox News was told by both American and British contacts who were in Benghazi that night that the CIA timeline rolled out this past week is only "loosely based on the truth" and "doesn't quite add up."

Fox News was also told that the local guard force meant to protect the consulate perimeter "panicked" and didn't know what to do as the attackers took up positions. Sources say other guards simply "walked away".

One former Special Op now employed by a private company in Benghazi said that even the safe room wasn't properly set up. He said "the safe room is one of the first measures you take" and that he is "not sure how you can set a safe room without fire suppression and ventilation in case of fire." He also said, "Ambassador Stevens would likely be alive today if this simple and normal procedure was put into place."

As details emerge of serious security issues before the attack on Sept. 11, Fox News is also beginning to hear more frustration from sources both on the ground in Benghazi and in the U.S. Multiple British and American sources insist there were other capabilities in the region and are mystified why none were used. Fox News was told there were not only armed drones that monitor Libyan chemical weapon sites in the area, but also F-18's, AC-130 aircraft and even helicopters that could have been dispatched in a timely fashion.

British intelligence sources said that unarmed drones routinely flew over Benghazi every night in flight patterns and that armed drones which fly over chemical sites, some a short flight from Benghazi, "were always said to be on call." American sources confirmed this and questioned "why was a drone armed only with a camera dispatched?"

Another source added, "Why would they put a ragtag team together in Tripoli as first responders? This is not even what they do for a living. We had a first responder air base in Italy almost the same distance away." Despite the team arriving from Tripoli that night, sources said sufficient American back-up never came.

British sources on the ground in Benghazi said they are extremely frustrated by the attack and are still wondering why they weren't called for help. “We have more people on the ground here than the Americans and I just don't know why we didn't get the call?" one said.

Both American and British sources said, at the very least, the security situation on the ground and the lack of proper response were the result of "complete incompetence." The covert team that came in from Tripoli was held up at the Benghazi airport for more than three hours by Libyan officials. Sources said the team notified officials in Washington that they were being delayed within 30 minutes of their arrival.

They also point out that these questions "don't even address the military capabilities of our United Nations ally Turkey, who (has) forces available a similarly short flight away." Fox News has learned that Turkey had a number of embassy staff in town the night of the attack and that the Turkish consul general met with Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi the night he and the three other Americans were killed.

One source asked, "Were the Turks not warned? What forces were available from our ally Turkey? Especially since they had officials there in Benghazi also and had to be concerned … and where was the U.N. in all of this?"

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When we visited on Oct. 26 to prepare a story for Dubai based Al Aan TV, we found not only Stevens’ personal copy of the Aug. 6 New Yorker, lying on remnants of the bed in the safe room where Stevens spent his final hours, but several ash-strewn documents beneath rubble in the looted Tactical Operations Center, one of the four main buildings of the partially destroyed compound. Some of the documents — such as an email from Stevens to his political officer in Benghazi and a flight itinerary sent to Sean Smith, a U.S. diplomat slain in the attack — are clearly marked as State Department correspondence. Others are unsigned printouts of messages to local and national Libyan authorities. The two unsigned draft letters are both dated Sept. 11 and express strong fears about the security situation at the compound on what would turn out to be a tragic day. They also indicate that Stevens and his team had officially requested additional security at the Benghazi compound for his visit — and that they apparently did not feel it was being provided.

One letter, written on Sept. 11 and addressed to Mohamed Obeidi, the head of the Libyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ office in Benghazi, reads: “Finally, early this morning at 0643, September 11, 2012, one of our diligent guards made a troubling report. Near our main gate, a member of the police force was seen in the upper level of a building across from our compound. It is reported that this person was photographing the inside of the U.S. special mission and furthermore that this person was part of the police unit sent to protect the mission. The police car stationed where this event occurred was number 322.”

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Pam Brittain Nov 3, 2012, 5:21pm UTC
The first time I saw a film of the safe room, I was amazed that the only thing that might have created safety were the metal bars. I couldn't believe that there were no gas masks, oxygen and other no brainer 'what if' preventions. I sure hope we beef up other ambassadors that have 'safe rooms'.
Loquacious Linda Nov 3, 2012, 6:38pm UTC
agreed, Pam, there is something rotten to the core here and we will no longer accept excuses as a substitute for responsibility.
Pam Brittain Nov 3, 2012, 6:44pm UTC
Linda, I hope you're right.
Marilyn M. Nov 4, 2012, 1:27am UTC
I thought the same things.
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Jesse (my friends may call me 'Mick') McIlroy Nov 3, 2012, 6:47pm UTC
The answer as to 'why' is easy.

Obama foolishly believes, that he is the ultimate peace-maker, and that because of him, no one would attack us, because everyone loves him.

'They are not a threat - they are our buddies' in his warped view of things, and his own self-imposed delusion of having diety attributes.

Can't we all sing Kum by ya?

Hug a tree, save a spotted owl and bow down so that NOW (with him in office) our enemies all love us?

His pompous arrogance has cost lives - more than once.

And he still does not 'get it'.

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Len Maxwell Nov 3, 2012, 7:44pm UTC
It will come out sooner or later. The LSM is actually mentioning a "problem" in Libya. They're not yet covering it, but they're starting to figure out that people know what's happening.
Loquacious Linda Nov 3, 2012, 8:06pm UTC
when the viewers leave, the advertisers disappear - soon they will have NO choice!
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Loquacious Linda Nov 3, 2012, 8:08pm UTC

Papers Blast Obama Over Benghazi
2:01 PM, Nov 3, 2012 • By STEPHEN F. HAYES

The lead editorials in the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal today offer stinging critiques of the Obama administration’s handling of Benghazi.

The Post notes that what happened in Benghazi “increasingly looks like a major security failure” and argues, “sooner or later the administration must answer questions” about that failure and “the policies that led to it.”

Why was there a security failure at the consulate, and how did U.S. forces in Libya and outside the country respond to the emergency? The result is a host of unanswered questions.


Char H. Nov 3, 2012, 10:00pm UTC
Linda, You believe what they are selling, that it was a security failure? That is the deal they have for us now. it's selling very cheap. Sorry, oops. Left hnd didn't know what the right hand did. I don't know about that...why did they send an unarmed drone, if they had an armed one at chemical plants? This is really a mess, and they keep the dust stirred. They keep answering questions that aren't asked, but not answering the one's that are. Who made the decision, why didn't they send more help? Maybe they didn't want to admit so many were there, maybe to keep secrets, secret, maybe to finish moving weapons they rounded up. maybe becuse so many were there as diplomats falsely? Who knows.
Loquacious Linda Nov 3, 2012, 10:27pm UTC
Certainly Char, this is indeed an iceberg... Apparently it will be kept a secret until they 'capture' and 'kill' the one responsible and then the case will be closed.

You could be right and they were all collateral damage compared to what could have been discovered. Were are the 30 people Woods saved and why aren't they talking? You are right, many more there than we know.

We'll just keep on keeping on and reading 'what's next'???

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Jean R B. Nov 4, 2012, 1:08am UTC
Seems the vice president was watching too. This is a disgrace to Anerica.
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Marilyn M. Nov 4, 2012, 1:28am UTC
There's so much we don't know. And that they don't want us to know.
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Pam Brittain Nov 4, 2012, 1:39pm UTC
Do you think it's true that President of the United States of America failed to go to the D-Day Monument that honors the soldiers killed during the Invasion? I've been hearing that he failed to go for three years and all of our past Presidents always went.
Loquacious Linda Nov 4, 2012, 2:52pm UTC
The D Day monument was only built in 2001, and Obama has not visited it - but also, it appears it's not an 'established' tradition of Presidents.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/dday.asp

If you mean the actual battleground and memorial in Normandy France, Obama went in 2009 for the 65th anniversary. Presidents Clinton, Bush 43, Reagan, all went for significant anniversaries. Carter went, but not for a June 6 anniversary.
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