And dont you remember a few months back when Obama was to of said that Hawaii(which is where he now says he is from) was in Asia? It seems that Obama when it suits his purpose is a foreign exchange student when he wants to take advantage of the US generoisty... Then when he wants to be president he is now born in the US... This man is a habitual liar , it seems... If you tell so many , it is hard to keep them straight... Wouldnt you think that if you were born in this country, you would know how many states are in this USA and that your birthplace was in the USA, especially if you want people to think you are from this country? Its just so absurd that these people believe anything that he feeds them..
Obama plays it both ways. First claiming to be Kenyan born, then expressing outrage that anyone would repeat it. ...of course, it's your typical left wing double-standards and double-speak. Does Obama know where he was born? Does Obama even know who his REAL daddy is?
This is so interesting... I wonder how the left will worm their way out of this one...I doubt that if this article gets alot of attention, they can just sliver away from it...
Good article! I saw this some time back and it is revealing to what most accept as an obvious truth by now. I can't wait until we're done with this guy so we're finally free all of the angst and chaos he brings with him wherever he goes. Though I wouldn't object to holding him accountable for all he's done, for sure. Someday I hope The People get the truth they deserve. Until then, he's not worth the space it takes up in my head :).
The Obama believers many are raising children... Can you imagine how that will turn out? They believed all of his lies without doing any homework.. Much like the child saying, but I didnt do it, it was so and so( passing the blame on someone else) Its all Bush's fault.. But I did study that teacher just doesnt like me, she picks on me all the time( the victim) The cops pulled me over because of the color of my skin( now playing the racist card) I didnt sleep with that girl so that kid isnt mine( Not accepting responsiblity). No one will hire me
OOPs, my answer was submitted before I was ready but you get the picture... If the parents feel this way, then we can safely say, they are raising their children in the same manner... Look, out world..
And I am proud that I have voted for decades, and have produced two children who are now young adults, both old enough to vote. I would never say that was a problem with any other political party. I am happy when young people exercise their right to vote, rather than become full of apathy regarding politics.
I think the whole born in Kenya thing is actually a diversion (propagated by Mr. Obama himself, including the last name) to disguise and distract people away from his real background. That's why his publicist bio said for years that he was born in Kenya, and that's why his wife and others made various apparent "slip ups" in this regard, and why Hawaiian officials could announce they had his actual birth records there. I believe they do, but I also believe what we were shown on the Whitehouse web site is indeed an obvious forgery.
I think his real father was one Frank Marshall Davis, a prominent communist Praty activist in Hawaii at that time, with connections to the Communist Party in Chicago, and a person that Mr. Obama's book 'Dreams of my Father' speaks of at some length, including that he was a mentor. And that's why he showed up at college already an "activist" ready to start on his political career.
Someone has recently published a documentary stle video that lays our much rather convincing evidence, some of which I have seen/heard in clips and interviews, that Mr. Marshall is actually Mr. Obama's father, and that this is the reality behind all the shenanigans about his natural born citizen status/where he was born, and so on. All that stuff was to distract from a rather unappealing, and alarming/alerting past, in terms of how the American public would perceive such a person.
Of course I cannot be absolutely sure, but all the pieces of the puzzle I am aware of fit together quite nicely, if this is the truth behind the fakery and hiding of records and so on. The video is called 'Dreams of my Real Father, and at this point has virtually no chance of being taken seriously by the mass media, of course. The "Kenya head fake" worked beautifully, if it is indeed what has been employed . .
An interesting theory. I have heard that there is some merit to the possibility of Frank Marshall being his father but have seen now documentation. Some one needs to get some DNA and work from there.
Maybe this could all be put to rest if someone could snatch up one of his cigarette butts. He didn't really quit smoking all together according to White House sources.
Hi, Big Mama...I had seen the article a while back...I do not even worry about this any more. The truth will eventually come out. Anything that is suggested about Obama's past is automatically dismissed by most, and it never results in anything other than an argument. I feel quite sure that in the near future, we will make a few discoveries that will not be able to be honestly argued. I am just saddened that such party loyalty by many is prevented even the consideration that just maybe not all in Washington are not honest. Actually, I cannot comprehend the possibility of any of them being honest. In some cases, remaining silent is just as dishonest as spouting an untruth...
Yeah BM, the millions of people like myself who live in the Chicago area know all about the Kenyon birth. We read that piece when it came out, for pete's sake! But as you know, everyone within 100 miles of Chicago is a slavish follower of "the One" and wouldn't think of letting the rest of the country know about the scandal. Except for me.I published my exposé earlier this year, for everyone to finally see.
Spoken like a committed Ronnite. Don't be so glum, JK. You can still write in your hero's name!
Incidentally, as a man of science, I have been researching the interwebs and old Ron Paul newsletters (probably not written by him), and I think I can announce, although I can't be sure, that you are Barack Obama's father. I know it's controversial, and the darn lamestream media won't cover it. But I think that you should account for your movements between 1960 and 1962. Don't try to hide any aging boarding passes or hotel receipts. America demands the truth!
A committed Ronnite? No, I support and espouse the Constitution, and the Republic it describes. If Mr. Obama were to "change" his stripes so to speak, in that regard, I would be his supporter too . .
Interesting that you thought along man worshiper lines, though, rather than along the lines of what a man espouses and stands up for . . very telling I feel, Obamiite Dave ; )
Yes, very serious stuff! You're on to me now. Feel free to maintain the line you yourself started ("man worship")--no chance it will rub off on you!
Hey, your hero is Ronnific, JK! You've read his newsletters. You've heard his speeches. Nobody can do it for you like Mr. Unpopular, so I say write him in. As a bonus, you don't have to make or defend a meaningful choice. Smart!
You know, some people might question how you could be Barack Obama's father, although of course no one but you can be completely sure, even with evidence piling up everywhere. And what I would say is that if James Earl Jones can be Luke Skywalker's daddy, well, all bets are off.
"You know, some people might question how you could be Barack Obama's father . . "
Not many would question how Mr.. Marshall could be, after they get a load of the semi-pornographic pics featuring Ms. Dunham, on the same couch Mr. Marshall (an amateur photographer, who also wrote a book called 'Sex Rebel') appears being interviewed on, I'd warrant ; )
You're right, JK, no one conmenting on BHO, and certainly not any critic of his, has ever lifted up the idea that those who voted for him thought of him as a political "messiah" or derisively used the term "the One" or anything of the sort. So a sarcastic remark aimed at the proposition that some stupid old commercial web page was evidence of something wouldn't be recognizable as commentary on that mindset. You employ intentional ignorance so effectively! Bravo!
Wow, that will explode a few heads! I'd put that up there with Paul's old racist newsletters, except that Ron Paul is a congressman from some podunk district in Texas and not, you know, the late mom of the leader of the free world. Maybe he could serialize the book in the National Enquirer. Or maybe Biker Chicks.
" . . a congressman from some podunk district in Texas . . "
Mr. Man-worshiper scoffs at such peons ; )
". . the late mom of the leader of the free world."
Hey, she was just a teenager back then, Dave, and the question is one of evidence, not the man-worship of "the leader of the free world". I outgrew that silly elitist stuff by age twelve, sir. I know they are really just people, like you and I . . not gods or saints.
On a different note, I think you need to learn to conjugate irregular verbs better. Here's an example for your reference:
1st person: I'm a thoughtful and honest person who supports this candidate based on a careful examination of his positions, which I've found to genuinely align with my deeply held principles.
2nd person: You haven't looked into matters carefully and are only supporting this candidate because you've been taken in by his looks and fallen for the indoctrination by the lame stream media.
3rd person: He/she is a pathetic authority-worshiping sheeple caught up in the mindless personality cult of a ruthless and treacherous psychopath posing as a candidate.
Yes, Anikó, we had to tip the pizza delivery boy big time to get the real low-down on that one! (We adopt the "royal we" when discussing our journalistic triumphs.) We had an easier time with the guy at the bar, especially after his second scotch.
JK, labeling the US president "the leader of the free world" may seem like a bit of puffery, but ask yourself these questions. Is he the leader of the un-free world? Obviously not. And what about leadership of other worlds? Nope. Got nothing there. Ok, the Curiosity roamer is, uh, roaming around Mars with a US flag on it. But do you think for a moment that the Martians couldn't squash that thing like a bug if they wanted to? No credit for that one! How about Alpha Centauri? They got a two-star system, compared to our measly third-rate Old Sol. Pffft!
And you make a damn good point about Texas. #1 in death penalty executions for decades running. #1 in kids failing to graduate from high school. #1 in power outages. #1 in failing to provide health services to its citizens. #1 in uninsured children. #1 in denying mental health care. #1 in women lacking prenatal care in the first trimester. #1 in stagnation in job creation. #1 in denying workers compensation coverage. #1 in CO2 emissions, VOC emissions, carcinogens released into the air, toxic chemicals released into water, and hazardous waste generated. Mr. Paul should be rightly proud to be from a "top" state like that!
Dave A, Luke Skywalker's real Daddy (oops we're getting into disputed fatherhood territory again) was David Prowse. James Earl Jones just did the voice synthesizer bit because a Britsh west country accent would sound silly in space. ("Yon Obi Wan don't scare me boy, 'ee looks like a tatty bogle 'ee does. An' that rebel base oojit, I seen oompty tums bigger'n thaat" )
Perhaps Luke Skywalker lied about who his biological father was to help sell tickets to African Americans.
Those are all completely valid points, Ian, and certainly enrich our understanding of disputed fatherhood, especially given that art imitates life. Given your rendition, I may have preferred the West Country brogue for pure entertainment value. Still, kudos to Jones, whose stentorian "You are my son!" could only be approached by Heston's Moses at the parting of the Red Sea: "Behold His mighty hand!"
Dave, Off tpoic but this is the greatest line ever in movies.
West country accents are easy, you'm get paast Brizzle, go in one o' they pubs in Zummerzet and drink a couple o' pints of Scrumpy Cider and you'n be warbling loike a Wurzel.
Somerset and Devon have a higher ratio of people who believe they have been abducted by aliens than anywhere in the world except California. Most of these abductions occur on Friday nights when the lads have been paid and have spent the night drinking scrumpy.
"JK, labeling the US president "the leader of the free world" may seem like a bit of puffery .. . "
It sure does, when speaking of a time when he hadn't yet been the President, and in fact hadn't yet been born . . He is not a religious figure to me, man-worshiper Dave, and I have no impulse to preserve any illusions about the default blessedness of his mother, or about his immaculate conception ; )
How many generations back, do you feel there is a need to venerate his lineage, Obamite?
When the "real truth" is published in Biker Babes, since I don't subscribe, let me know and I'll pick up a copy at 7-11 and "research" it further. I can see why you're frantic to point the finger in some other direction. But we have to follow the evidence where it leads! As Vic said, the truth will come out!
PS~ I'm not sure if you realize that the evidence does not paint a very pretty picture of the ostensible father of Mr. Obama either . . as in, he seems to have left a wife (Kezia Obama) three months pregnant, and with a one year old son, to come to the US in 1959, whom he never divorced (unless you count his own apparent claim that in Kenya, a husband had merely to tell his wife they were divorced, and that he had told her that).
And, that according to An April 1961 internal memo from the Immigration and Naturalization Service, his University of Hawaii foreign student advisor, "further states that Subject has been running around with several girls here since he first arrived and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways. Subject replied that he would "try" to stayaway from the girls" . .
So, either way you slice it so to speak, it does not appear to me that we are looking at what one might call a truly venerable "leader of the free world" parental storyline . . One way or another, the story is of flawed human beings, and not of gods or saints.
I heard that one of his other fathers, Malcolm X, was a real bad-ass at a younger age. "He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations." Glad to see that you're helping the big guy out, JK!
I do not care about your ditsy need to obfuscate these matters, Dave, or your bizarro illiberal, quasi-racist, (to me) occultism based elitist mentality. It appears rather likely to me, that Mr. Obama is in fact a person indoctrinated from a young age to see the dismantling of our Constitutional Republic, and so our unalienable human rights, granted by our Creator, as a desirable thing.
And I don't know whether it is his continuation of the neocon endless wars of aggression and regime change, or his assassin in Chief coat of many colors, or his vast donations to his Goldman Sachs et al backers at the taxpayer's expense, or his insistence that all American's Constitutional rights be handed over to him personally (and any future Pres of whatever Party), which most cements your departure from the teachings of Christ, but to me it's utterly absurd to think this man is any sort of Godsend to the cause of real liberalism . . or the downtrodden, or civil rights, or the rule of law. . or much of anything noble or venerable.
You cling to your images if you must, sir, but I don't do image worship. So, drone my ass I guess ; )
Emmett Till had a thing for our white girls, too. Luckily he didn't have to wait for the next generation for "justice," right, JK? "They" and their lib'rul supporters, as Kat H. said above, just can't keep it in their pants.
JK, don't forget BammyPappy also spent time as a student in Russia and fathered one child that we know of there, again on a girl who was hardly past puberty. Not a nice man on the whole.
I see no trace of logical reasoning there . . Why would endless wars, and rulers assassinating people, and fattening fat cat banksters, and shelving the Bill of Rights, be in any sense justice or justifiable because of what happened to Emmit Till? I really cannot see the connections there . . I don't understand why you would adjust your sense of what is good and just, based on the skin tone of the who that is calling the shots . . It's an alien form of thinking to me . .
To me, all that stuff is tragic and wrong . . no matter what color the people involved are . . it's just wrong . .
I agree, there is no trace of logic in your comments. On a thread that has to do with BHO's ancestry, as you are busy reporting on several of his fathers and their womanizing ways, you suddenly link that to the son's actions as a politician decades later? Why would you inject that into the discussion? No logic at all—you're right. You see a genetic flaw, perhaps? You figure "like father, like son," and you want to present that to the world? Keep working on that "logic," and let us know what you come up with.
"On a thread that has to do with BHO's ancestry, as you are busy reporting on several of his fathers and their womanizing ways, you suddenly link that to the son's actions as a politician decades later?"
No, not suddenly, I have from the first been saying that it is my view that this man's real Father is Frank Marshall Davis, a prominent communist Party activist in Hawaii at that time, with connections to the Communist Party in Chicago, and a person that Mr. Obama's book 'Dreams of my Father' speaks of at some length, including that he was a mentor. That's the "link" to the sons actions I believe, just as I have said all along.
"You figure "like father, like son," and you want to present that to the world?"
Well, yeah, if the father is the son's "mentor" from an early age . . I mean it ain't exactly a controversial concept that children (and others) can be influenced by activists . . Ya know?
So, apparently there is no rational reason you brought up Mr. Till, any more than there is for you to be treating Mr. Obama as any sort of Godsend to the cause of real liberalism, civil rights, the rule of law. . or much of anything noble or venerable. You apparently like that he's dark skinned . . and has a nice smile ; )
Well, he is rather good looking I suppose . . but I'm just not into that man-worship stuff I tell you . . I'm concerned about human rights, and the rule of law, and the Constitutional Republic . . And like I said, I'd support this handsome fellow if I thought he was too.
Oh wait: you're serious. You're not joking about that silly crap about Marshall, and the semi-porn, and the "alternate substitution father," just in case? The unfathomable idiosy of all these fathers and upbringings, after your years of insisting on Kenyan births and Indonesian naturalizations? No. You're kidding, aren't you. Now listen. Read my "exposé." The link is given above. I guarantee it tops your best effort by an El ride from Glen Ellyn to Chicago, and a transfer to Hyde Park to boot. You really had me going for a while, though. Too damn funny.
Read down, Marilyn: "The errant Obama biography in the Acton & Dystel booklet does not contradict the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Moreover, several contemporaneous accounts of Obama’s background describe Obama as having been born in Hawaii." [emphasis added]
Do you ever even read your own links? What a hoot!
They did but Obama will continue spending millions to hide his past and those that Know the truth and help hide it are complicit in the worlds biggest scam.
Jeanne, Sarah Obama is only one of the "assistant wives" of Bammy's Grand Dad (Mitt Romney would understand) The biological grandmother Kezia has always insisted Barry was born in Kenya. Is she speaking the truth? I don't know but it is never wise to choose to believe the person who is telling you what you want to hear.
I will agree with you, Ian, on the not choosing to believe the person who is telling you what you want to hear. To be honest, back in the 2008 primaries, I had doubts about Obama and was supporting Hilary Clinton at the time. Like some republicans who wish someone other than Mitt Romney had gotten the nomination, I wish it was someone other than Obama who had gotten the democratic nomination. I wish we could wipe the whole slate clean this year and start all over...
The Catholic Church knows everything, Nippy. They just usually keep it all a secret. Otherwise, everyone would know, for example, that it was indeed Sarah Obama, Obama Sr.'s stepmother, who did (not) make the comment about being present at Obama Jr's birth, or that Kezia is Obama Sr's first wife's name, not his mother's.
Just curious, Big Mama - do you ever check the sources on, say, Snopes.com? They are a very reliable site - and after checking this out - well, I won't give the link because I doubt many will click it on - this is what Snopes said:
"The Associated Press (AP) made no such reference; the identification of Barack Obama as "Kenyon born" was added to the Sunday Standard's version of the AP story by someone else (who misspelled the politician's given name as "Barrack" in the process) and is apparently unique to that publication. The full text of the "Jack Ryan Abandons Senate Bid" article as originally issued by the Associated Press is retrievable from the NexisLexis archive of global news sources and it contains no references (in the lead-in or elsewhere) to Barack Obama's being "Kenyon born".... ...Likewise, archived versions of U.S. newspapers that published the same AP wire story (http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/politics/20040625-1644-illinoissenate.html and http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2001966048_cdig26.html) do not include lead-ins identifying Barack Obama as "Kenyon born"."
The article you showed was a reproduction, with a new lead-in added - and the two links I gave, as stated by Snopes - contain the FULL TEXT of the original AP article. What you posted is a reproduced, edited version, with a new lead-in that was not given out by the AP. Link for snopes on this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp
I will disagree here, Nate. For many reasons - a bit of background checking. This so called "Dr." - Leonard Coldwell - has no credibility. He has manipulated Google so if one searches for information on him - the first half dozen searches that come up are all - his! The information is all self-generated. There are NO independent references to him via Google. His "partner and patient" - Mr. Kevin Trudeau - has been convicted multiple times on theft and fraud charges. Coldwell isn't even the good doctor's real name - he changed it around 1998 0r 99. The American Cancer Society states there is nothing to bring about a 92 percent cure rate in cancer - nothing. If there were - they would be endorsing it. Second - this guy, Alan Strong - does exist. In fact, he and his wife are the subject of some forums due to the fact that they scammed vendors out of lots of money. A number of sites, including Factcheck, have verified there is no truth to what is said in that letter by Alan Strong, CEO. Snopes NEVER lists statements claiming to have the "final, factual word" on anything - in fact, they encourage users to check out other sources, too. I could give you a long, long list of places that vouch for the credibility of Snopes along with the website owners reputations as fact checkers.
That's a bit mean, Jesse McIlroy. I do a lot of research - every day, not only for my job, either. I would not say that - nor use those sites as references in other work I do - were it not for their reliability. The main thing is not to rely on any ONE source. They are part of my sources - not the only ones. If information leads me there, I'll see what they have to say. For many, many people, they have been able to provide, through much, much research of their own - the answer to whether something is substantiated or not.
I have not found "snopes" or "fact check" to be very reliable so i do not consider them as a good resource. They are both supported by George Soros subsidiaries.
Snopes is not reliable or credible. It's run in the kitchen of a couple, and many believe they're supported by Soros. I can tell you this. If you find something that you can debunk that was originally written against conservatives or Republicans, or if you find something to PROVE what has been said about lib/progs or Democrats, your emails will go unanswered or if you post in the forums there that's where the stuff remains. They will not "fix" anything that will go against lib/progs or for conservatives. So, jeanne, if you choose to use Snopes as your source, it's just like using any other liberal source.
Surely Soros could get the Mikkelsons out of that kitchen and into a more fitting location. As it is, some people might end up thinking that they're not important main stream media authorities but independent citizens doing their own research, and therefore consider them "not reliable".
I wondered the same, aniko. Surely if a "mom and pop" company is being financed by big bucks, they can afford more than a kitchen table for an office? Not to mention hiring a huge staff of minions to do their legwork? That could be another reason why their site has some limitations as far as checking out every single rumor they receive.
The AP itself says, "“The AP has never reported that President Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, AP news stories about the state of Hawaii have confirmed that he was born there. The Kenyan paper that you cite rewrote a 2004 AP story, adding the phrase ‘Kenyan-born.’ That wording was not in the AP version of the story.” -- Paul Colford, director of media relations for the Associated Press
As you can see there is no indication that this was an AP article that was picked up. However if you follow the link that I posted in the article there is an indication that it was credited to the AP from AP for that particular article.
Here is a link to an MSNBC news report were it is mentioned that Obama is Kenyan
I will have to watch in a few days when I hook up my new computer - this one is glitching like mad on any videos I try to watch - not to mention glitching on a bunch of other things. I worked piecemeal writing extra articles and doing tasks on amazon turk, and gathering up amazon gift codes, to get the new computer - took me over a year of squirreling away the extra money and not touching the money I made on Amazon turk, but I'll have it soon! In a few days - a week at most. Then I can watch all the videos you want to share!
I think what happens - an article is printed or distributed through the AP wire services, and some places outside the U.S. mess around with it.
I just tried to get the video going, but no go - I saw "NBC" on the video - is it one that was shown on MSNBC? I watch the nightly news on that, but usually from around 7 or 8 to 10 ish - depending on cooking dinner and taking care of my husband. I don't catch everything they have on. I promise I will check it out once my new computer is up and running. I'm also having trouble following some of what you were writing - is it Gather? I've noticed the words in the reply are being cut off. I've seen that happen with other comments as well. So I think I'm not able to read your full response. For instance - here is the last line you typed:
Here is a link to an MSNBC news report were it is mentioned that Oba http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619#48769536
Forgot to add - a correction was issued by the paper the next week - the paper in Kenya, that is. http://web.archive.org/web/20040706035526/www.eastandard.net/intelligence/intel03070417.htm
Thanks for your thorough research on this, Jeanne. The picture is pretty clear, I think: Kenyans, like people in other smaller and less powerful nations all over the world, like to relate themselves to and identify with successful world figures who have some connection to their country. Here's an unbroken link to the East African Standard article you've found, in which this phenomenon is discussed and "Kenyan-born" is clearly identified as an error.
Thanks, aniko. I am a compulsive researcher, and in spite of what some may think, I believe my sources are valid. It doesn't mean an occasional mistake isn't made - but I am very careful.
Great job, Jeanne! Thanks for digging through the BS to show once again how desperate some of these Birthers are to find evidence to back up their whacked-out conspiracy theories.
I think the issue is more one of the fact they just don't like Obama. But the hatred has grown rampant. Normally, I love conspiracy theories - they make great material for some of my fictional stories. But in the case of Obama....then again - wouldn't having a Superman type person for president make a great story?
Or, aiko, it's highly possible that Kenya is ticked off at Obama for having promised so much to them and then never returned to follow through on his promises.
I've always had trouble picturing legal abstractions being ticked off, but I suppose it's possible - highly or lowly - that some living and breathing Kenyans are ticked off at Obama. Some others would continue to take pride in the connection, and yet others would yawn and decide it's time to move on. That's how it tends to be with actual human populations.
Both stories were published the same day. so it is a toss up as to what is what. The standard got the story from the AP but possibly one of their reporters did the lead in. But then we have an MSNBC reporter also stating he is Kenyan it makes it worth looking into. especially since MSNBC is an extremely pro- obama organization.. There are quite a few instances were the news media reported about him being from Kenya especially before he was running for president.
Now this comment - or response, rather - is showing up fine. I'll check out the thing on the MSNBC reporter because, as you said, they tend to be very pro-Obama and don't usually state something that would indicate Obama is anything other than who he presents himself to be.
Hope you get your new computer soon I know how frustrating it can be to try to use one that is not functioning correctly. makes ya want to pull your hair out! LOL
Having perused all the comments on this post with extreme analytical attention, I have to say that yours, Jeanne, regarding your long hair, is the only one I find at all exciting. Please, tell us more.
Well, if you insist, friend Simon P. - my hair is almost waist length - and it is two colored - red underneath; brown on top - naturally. Somehow the genetic code got mucked up and instead of straight out auburn hair, it split. Although it is more auburn on top ....and these days, my hair is becoming more "tri-colored" with the addition of grey. I can do one french braid in five minutes; two take about eight. My cats delight in playing with my hair when I am sleeping. This, of course, tends to wake me up. My profile picture gives you a glimpse of some of that long hair. I have another photo or two in my photo section that show more. It's my crowning glory, and the day I get it cut is the day I am no longer in control of my mind. Unless it turns fifty shades of grey - in which case I'll give in and dye it fifty shades of auburn. Dark.
Sometimes a reference to a "home country" simply is an ancestral reference. My husband refers to France as his home country because his mother was born there and much of his family lives there. Yet he was born in New York city. Although he did "go home" to France for quite some time back in a younger day.
Yes, too many if you are a birther, there are too many instances. This is long settled, and you are wasting your time, the birther movement is a laughing stock, everywhere, and there's a good reason for that, people actually can recognize crazy, if you put it out there too much, and the Orly brigade has put it out there way too much.
As I say above, such overzealous connecting with "claimable" people on the main stage of the world is common in smaller and less powerful countries.
Incidentally, a certain website that puts your life in a timeline whether you want it or not kinda sorta claims I was born in a certain city. I wasn't. At some point, it asked what my "hometown" was, and I answered that question, thinking it meant the place where I grew up and went to school and where I know where such and such a street is and all that. So now my timeline starts with "BORN", the year, and the name of that city, which is not the one you'd find on my birth certificate. I hope I won't get into trouble.
I'm looking for the website that claims I was born on another planet, in a galaxy far, far away - perhaps even in another universe...a fringe one, perhaps...
I think the issue the "birthers" Have is really a lack of trust in Obama. They do not trust a man who has lied to us so many times and has done so much to usurp our Constitution. He has refused to be the president that represents all the people. His early statements about making conservatives ride in the back of the bus, and that when Americans "get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people" He has been spitting out insults at the American People through out his term and His disdain for Americans causes folks to distrust him and his story.
I will agree with your first sentence, Big Mama - I think you are correct on that. It's a lack of trust. That has boiled over in to many areas. I'm not in agreement with your reasons for it - but I agree that it's what the real issue may be.
Another reason is that the in 2008 the Hawaii Democratic Party “removed the standard language heretofore employed certifying the ‘constitutional eligibility’ of candidates Obama and Biden.” from the Certification document that were signed. And then the Democratic National Committee failed to certify their candidate’s eligibility in 49 of the 50 states.
The dems prepared two documents to certify Obama as their nominee for president, one that contains language affirming his constitutional eligibility and filed in Hawaii (where state law requires the specific language But changed in the law 2008 after Obama became the nominee) and another omitting the constitutional language, and filed in the remaining 49 states. Here is a copy of the document that 49 of fifty states recieved.
Why TWO different DNC Obama certification documents, and why did one have proper certification of constitutional eligibility in it, while the other had that required certification removed? It is enough to arouse suspicions. The Democratic National Committee was up to something and it wasn't something good. The Democrat Party had intentionally failed to certify Barrack Obama as constitutionally eligible for office in 49 of 50 states. This is where the real mis-trust began. If you do the research you will find that There has yet to be any valid justification for removing the Constitutional certification requirement from the documents presented to the states signed by Nancy Pelosi.
The reason is right there in the information you related. Hawaii previously required it, and they weren't up to speed on it no longer being a requirement when they sent it, and the other states don't require it. The obvious is more often than not, the truth.
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Mind you, my greatest concern...is that he is a damned Liar.
A rather queer discrepancy, Yes?
It seems that Obama when it suits his purpose is a foreign exchange student when he wants to take advantage of the US generoisty...
Then when he wants to be president he is now born in the US...
This man is a habitual liar , it seems... If you tell so many , it is hard to keep them straight...
Wouldnt you think that if you were born in this country, you would know how many states are in this USA and that your birthplace was in the USA, especially if you want people to think you are from this country? Its just so absurd that these people believe anything that he feeds them..
...of course, it's your typical left wing double-standards and double-speak. Does Obama know where he was born? Does Obama even know who his REAL daddy is?
But I did study that teacher just doesnt like me, she picks on me all the time( the victim)
The cops pulled me over because of the color of my skin( now playing the racist card)
I didnt sleep with that girl so that kid isnt mine( Not accepting responsiblity).
No one will hire me
The standard British child's excuse is "|A big boy did it and ran away."
I can almost hear bammy saying it.
I think his real father was one Frank Marshall Davis, a prominent communist Praty activist in Hawaii at that time, with connections to the Communist Party in Chicago, and a person that Mr. Obama's book 'Dreams of my Father' speaks of at some length, including that he was a mentor. And that's why he showed up at college already an "activist" ready to start on his political career.
Someone has recently published a documentary stle video that lays our much rather convincing evidence, some of which I have seen/heard in clips and interviews, that Mr. Marshall is actually Mr. Obama's father, and that this is the reality behind all the shenanigans about his natural born citizen status/where he was born, and so on. All that stuff was to distract from a rather unappealing, and alarming/alerting past, in terms of how the American public would perceive such a person.
Of course I cannot be absolutely sure, but all the pieces of the puzzle I am aware of fit together quite nicely, if this is the truth behind the fakery and hiding of records and so on. The video is called 'Dreams of my Real Father, and at this point has virtually no chance of being taken seriously by the mass media, of course. The "Kenya head fake" worked beautifully, if it is indeed what has been employed . .
Incidentally, as a man of science, I have been researching the interwebs and old Ron Paul newsletters (probably not written by him), and I think I can announce, although I can't be sure, that you are Barack Obama's father. I know it's controversial, and the darn lamestream media won't cover it. But I think that you should account for your movements between 1960 and 1962. Don't try to hide any aging boarding passes or hotel receipts. America demands the truth!
Interesting that you thought along man worshiper lines, though, rather than along the lines of what a man espouses and stands up for . . very telling I feel, Obamiite Dave ; )
Hey, your hero is Ronnific, JK! You've read his newsletters. You've heard his speeches. Nobody can do it for you like Mr. Unpopular, so I say write him in. As a bonus, you don't have to make or defend a meaningful choice. Smart!
"Feel free to maintain the line you yourself started ("man worship") . . "
Um, no, if you reread your original comment there you'll see it was you that started down that line, Obamite Dave. You.
Not many would question how Mr.. Marshall could be, after they get a load of the semi-pornographic pics featuring Ms. Dunham, on the same couch Mr. Marshall (an amateur photographer, who also wrote a book called 'Sex Rebel') appears being interviewed on, I'd warrant ; )
" . . a congressman from some podunk district in Texas . . "
Mr. Man-worshiper scoffs at such peons ; )
". . the late mom of the leader of the free world."
Hey, she was just a teenager back then, Dave, and the question is one of evidence, not the man-worship of "the leader of the free world". I outgrew that silly elitist stuff by age twelve, sir. I know they are really just people, like you and I . . not gods or saints.
You sleep well, Dave.
On a different note, I think you need to learn to conjugate irregular verbs better. Here's an example for your reference:
1st person: I'm a thoughtful and honest person who supports this candidate based on a careful examination of his positions, which I've found to genuinely align with my deeply held principles.
2nd person: You haven't looked into matters carefully and are only supporting this candidate because you've been taken in by his looks and fallen for the indoctrination by the lame stream media.
3rd person: He/she is a pathetic authority-worshiping sheeple caught up in the mindless personality cult of a ruthless and treacherous psychopath posing as a candidate.
JK, labeling the US president "the leader of the free world" may seem like a bit of puffery, but ask yourself these questions. Is he the leader of the un-free world? Obviously not. And what about leadership of other worlds? Nope. Got nothing there. Ok, the Curiosity roamer is, uh, roaming around Mars with a US flag on it. But do you think for a moment that the Martians couldn't squash that thing like a bug if they wanted to? No credit for that one! How about Alpha Centauri? They got a two-star system, compared to our measly third-rate Old Sol. Pffft!
And you make a damn good point about Texas. #1 in death penalty executions for decades running. #1 in kids failing to graduate from high school. #1 in power outages. #1 in failing to provide health services to its citizens. #1 in uninsured children. #1 in denying mental health care. #1 in women lacking prenatal care in the first trimester. #1 in stagnation in job creation. #1 in denying workers compensation coverage. #1 in CO2 emissions, VOC emissions, carcinogens released into the air, toxic chemicals released into water, and hazardous waste generated. Mr. Paul should be rightly proud to be from a "top" state like that!
Luke Skywalker's real Daddy (oops we're getting into disputed fatherhood territory again) was David Prowse. James Earl Jones just did the voice synthesizer bit because a Britsh west country accent would sound silly in space. ("Yon Obi Wan don't scare me boy, 'ee looks like a tatty bogle 'ee does. An' that rebel base oojit, I seen oompty tums bigger'n thaat" )
Perhaps Luke Skywalker lied about who his biological father was to help sell tickets to African Americans.
Off tpoic but this is the greatest line ever in movies.
West country accents are easy, you'm get paast Brizzle, go in one o' they pubs in Zummerzet and drink a couple o' pints of Scrumpy Cider and you'n be warbling loike a Wurzel.
Somerset and Devon have a higher ratio of people who believe they have been abducted by aliens than anywhere in the world except California. Most of these abductions occur on Friday nights when the lads have been paid and have spent the night drinking scrumpy.
What do you mean, this is my new Mr Sunshine image.
"JK, labeling the US president "the leader of the free world" may seem like a bit of puffery .. . "
It sure does, when speaking of a time when he hadn't yet been the President, and in fact hadn't yet been born . . He is not a religious figure to me, man-worshiper Dave, and I have no impulse to preserve any illusions about the default blessedness of his mother, or about his immaculate conception ; )
How many generations back, do you feel there is a need to venerate his lineage, Obamite?
And, that according to An April 1961 internal memo from the Immigration and Naturalization Service, his University of Hawaii foreign student advisor, "further states that Subject has been running around with several girls here since he first arrived and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways. Subject replied that he would "try" to stayaway from the girls" . .
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/were_ann_dunham_and_barack_obama_really_married.html
So, either way you slice it so to speak, it does not appear to me that we are looking at what one might call a truly venerable "leader of the free world" parental storyline . . One way or another, the story is of flawed human beings, and not of gods or saints.
And I don't know whether it is his continuation of the neocon endless wars of aggression and regime change, or his assassin in Chief coat of many colors, or his vast donations to his Goldman Sachs et al backers at the taxpayer's expense, or his insistence that all American's Constitutional rights be handed over to him personally (and any future Pres of whatever Party), which most cements your departure from the teachings of Christ, but to me it's utterly absurd to think this man is any sort of Godsend to the cause of real liberalism . . or the downtrodden, or civil rights, or the rule of law. . or much of anything noble or venerable.
You cling to your images if you must, sir, but I don't do image worship. So, drone my ass I guess ; )
I see no trace of logical reasoning there . . Why would endless wars, and rulers assassinating people, and fattening fat cat banksters, and shelving the Bill of Rights, be in any sense justice or justifiable because of what happened to Emmit Till? I really cannot see the connections there . . I don't understand why you would adjust your sense of what is good and just, based on the skin tone of the who that is calling the shots . . It's an alien form of thinking to me . .
To me, all that stuff is tragic and wrong . . no matter what color the people involved are . . it's just wrong . .
No, not suddenly, I have from the first been saying that it is my view that this man's real Father is Frank Marshall Davis, a prominent communist Party activist in Hawaii at that time, with connections to the Communist Party in Chicago, and a person that Mr. Obama's book 'Dreams of my Father' speaks of at some length, including that he was a mentor. That's the "link" to the sons actions I believe, just as I have said all along.
"You figure "like father, like son," and you want to present that to the world?"
Well, yeah, if the father is the son's "mentor" from an early age . . I mean it ain't exactly a controversial concept that children (and others) can be influenced by activists . . Ya know?
So, apparently there is no rational reason you brought up Mr. Till, any more than there is for you to be treating Mr. Obama as any sort of Godsend to the cause of real liberalism, civil rights, the rule of law. . or much of anything noble or venerable. You apparently like that he's dark skinned . . and has a nice smile ; )
Well, he is rather good looking I suppose . . but I'm just not into that man-worship stuff I tell you . . I'm concerned about human rights, and the rule of law, and the Constitutional Republic . . And like I said, I'd support this handsome fellow if I thought he was too.
Hmm...Maybe the Internet at my house isn't as clean as the one other people get.
Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii
Thank goodness for Breitbart.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii
Do you ever even read your own links? What a hoot!
Sarah Obama is only one of the "assistant wives" of Bammy's Grand Dad (Mitt Romney would understand) The biological grandmother Kezia has always insisted Barry was born in Kenya.
Is she speaking the truth? I don't know but it is never wise to choose to believe the person who is telling you what you want to hear.
"The Associated Press (AP) made no such reference; the identification of Barack Obama as "Kenyon born" was added to the Sunday Standard's version of the AP story by someone else (who misspelled the politician's given name as "Barrack" in the process) and is apparently unique to that publication. The full text of the "Jack Ryan Abandons Senate Bid" article as originally issued by the Associated Press is retrievable from the NexisLexis archive of global news sources and it contains no references (in the lead-in or elsewhere) to Barack Obama's being "Kenyon born"....
...Likewise, archived versions of U.S. newspapers that published the same AP wire story (http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/politics/20040625-1644-illinoissenate.html and http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2001966048_cdig26.html) do not include lead-ins identifying Barack Obama as "Kenyon born"."
Link for snopes on this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp
Snopes Exposed Dont use snopes Do not use snopes!
The American Cancer Society states there is nothing to bring about a 92 percent cure rate in cancer - nothing. If there were - they would be endorsing it.
Second - this guy, Alan Strong - does exist. In fact, he and his wife are the subject of some forums due to the fact that they scammed vendors out of lots of money.
A number of sites, including Factcheck, have verified there is no truth to what is said in that letter by Alan Strong, CEO. Snopes NEVER lists statements claiming to have the "final, factual word" on anything - in fact, they encourage users to check out other sources, too.
I could give you a long, long list of places that vouch for the credibility of Snopes along with the website owners reputations as fact checkers.
Did you hear about the 4 headed monkey, with one head being human, one sheep, and one martian?
I, for one, am simply glad that a female Bigfoot saved me from being probed by those nasty Romulans!
For many, many people, they have been able to provide, through much, much research of their own - the answer to whether something is substantiated or not.
Of course they are. Soros is mad at Kenyon College.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040810141229/eastandard.net/headlines/news13050410.htm
As you can see there is no indication that this was an AP article that was picked up. However if you follow the link that I posted in the article there is an indication that it was credited to the AP from AP for that particular article.
Here is a link to an MSNBC news report were it is mentioned that Obama is Kenyan
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619#48769536
Then I can watch all the videos you want to share!
I think what happens - an article is printed or distributed through the AP wire services, and some places outside the U.S. mess around with it.
I just tried to get the video going, but no go - I saw "NBC" on the video - is it one that was shown on MSNBC? I watch the nightly news on that, but usually from around 7 or 8 to 10 ish - depending on cooking dinner and taking care of my husband. I don't catch everything they have on.
I promise I will check it out once my new computer is up and running.
I'm also having trouble following some of what you were writing - is it Gather? I've noticed the words in the reply are being cut off. I've seen that happen with other comments as well. So I think I'm not able to read your full response. For instance - here is the last line you typed:
Here is a link to an MSNBC news report were it is mentioned that Oba
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619#48769536
That is how it's showing up.
I can do one french braid in five minutes; two take about eight. My cats delight in playing with my hair when I am sleeping. This, of course, tends to wake me up.
My profile picture gives you a glimpse of some of that long hair. I have another photo or two in my photo section that show more.
It's my crowning glory, and the day I get it cut is the day I am no longer in control of my mind. Unless it turns fifty shades of grey - in which case I'll give in and dye it fifty shades of auburn. Dark.
Incidentally, a certain website that puts your life in a timeline whether you want it or not kinda sorta claims I was born in a certain city. I wasn't. At some point, it asked what my "hometown" was, and I answered that question, thinking it meant the place where I grew up and went to school and where I know where such and such a street is and all that. So now my timeline starts with "BORN", the year, and the name of that city, which is not the one you'd find on my birth certificate. I hope I won't get into trouble.
The dems prepared two documents to certify Obama as their nominee for president, one that contains language affirming his constitutional eligibility and filed in Hawaii (where state law requires the specific language But changed in the law 2008 after Obama became the nominee) and another omitting the constitutional language, and filed in the remaining 49 states.
Here is a copy of the document that 49 of fifty states recieved.