With "Dark Knight Rises" spoilers now in full force due to the Batman movie's release, some websites are picking apart their issues with the film. This includes the fight scenes, and one character's death in the film.
Previous Dark Knight spoilers have covered every aspect of the film, from whether Batman dies, to the surprise characters, and surprise plot twists. Now, many fans, and comic book websites are taking a closer look at what they liked, and didn't like, about Christopher Nolan's grand finale in this trilogy.
The Comic Book Movie website is on top of all these story inconsistencies and plot holes. The one author dissects every part of the film that bothered him. For example, he notes that some fans have been upset over how Bane was killed in this film. It wasn't done by Batman, but instead by Catwoman, on the Batcycle, as she blasted Bane before he could blow Batman's head off with a shotgun.
It's true with this sort of ending to the major villain, Batman didn't truly defeat the guy who broke him in half and left him to suffer in a pit in "hell." It's hard to say why Nolan chose this particular way of getting rid of Bane, because it almost says that Batman couldn't handle the villain without help. Then again, that seemed to be a prevailing theme as he returned to his crime-fighting role as Gotham's protector, after being such a recluse.
Other good points made by the website, include a lack of development in the romance between Bruce Wayne and his leading ladies. He slept with Miranda Tate at one point in the film, but there wasn't much of a relationship built, at least on-screen. He also had several kiss scenes with Selina Kyle (Catwoman), and that particular relationship seemed to be more prevailing than the one which involved Tate. Maybe it was to throw off movie goers so they wouldn't suspect Tate was going to stab Batman in the back, literally.
A few other contentions with the film included the way Robin was portrayed and Batman's reduced appearances in the film. While his first appearance is rather exciting as he chases down Bane and his cronies on their motorcycles, while also eluding the police, the Caped Crusader was really not very involved in the film's finish. He had a few scenes here or there, and his fight with Bane was shorter than it could have been.
As for Robin in "Dark Knight Rises," that was the big reveal at the end of the film as police detective John Blake finds the Batcave. Just before that, his name is revealed to be John "Robin" Blake. In the comic books, Dick Grayson was Robin, and it's being speculated that Christopher Nolan gave his Robin a different real name, to throw off longtime fans of the comics.
Just a few other mentions include the lack of mentioning the previous villain, The Joker, at all in the story, and some of the dumbing down of the passing of time. For example, a bomb was set to go off in several months time, and it was attempted to show the decay of Gotham city during those months, but it didn't necessarily feel like that much time had passed. That's not necessarily something Nolan did on purpose to call movie goers stupid, but probably was done more for the sake of time. After all the movie already clocks in at close to three hours, even though it doesn't feel that way when you see it.
It's true, the stuff in this Batman movie is not perfect, but then again many of Hollywood's big blockbusters have these issues. To say there will ever be a "perfect superhero film" may be premature, although "The Dark Knight," film two of this series, was heralded by many as very close. It will be surprising if "The Dark Knight Rises" gets nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars, although several of its cast members have already won awards for their acting, in other films.
Did you see "The Dark Knight Rises," and if so, were there any parts in particular that bothered you most?
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Comments: 4
Okay, every law enforcement officer with one exception is an idiot!
The CIA never checks who's under the hoods or if their cuffs are real.
Commissioner Gordon's confession letter is read aloud and nothing happens because of it.
Catwoman is relegated to a common cat burglar. The outfit is hot!
Catwoman is not a super-villain or even threatening in the film.
No one seems to know how to defend themselves against a 120 lbs. woman with limited martial arts skills.
Most dramatic events are telegraphed in the screenplay.
Alfred disappears for almost the entire movie. And he represents the moral conscience in the film.
Batman doesn't figure out until the end that he can't out punch a bigger, stronger man than himself and guys like Bane are slow so you defeat them with quickness. (Bruce Lee would have killed him.)
Bane, a rather dull witted buy, acts more like Mr. Freeze than Bane.
Much of the dialog is lifted from Star Wars films.
No one seems to notice that Bane's fleet of tumblers look just like the Batmobile.
Almost everyone finds out that Batman is Bruce Wayne. (It's a long list)
I know the Nolan sycophants won't like theses criticism, but these are flaws in the writing.
I could go one ....
Scarecrow wanted to show people what they become when they are free of courage and resolve (or more accurately, when they lose the ability to recognize and control their fears).
Joker wanted to show the people what they become when they are free of inhibition.
Bane wanted to show the people what they become when they are free of punishment.
What all three of these men had in common is the belief that there is a very thin barrier that separates the best of the human condition from the worst of it. It's interesting that it goes from internal to external as the movies progress, for instance, Scarecrow thinks that this is an internal barrier, and that once people let fear take over they are capable of committing the most indecent acts. Joker believes that this is conditioned inhibition: that people learn to behave a certain way in order to function within a society and so he works to sever that relationship and force people to behave in a way inconsistent with their learned social relationships (trying to convince one ship full of people to blow up another, for instance). Bane believes this barrier is entirely socially constructed: that without the legal and political structures and institutions humanity would exhibit its worst properties and destroy itself, so his goal is not to get people to struggle internally but rather to destroy the institutions that allow them to effectively organize.
The thread tying these evil men together is Ras al Ghul, because again, he believes in some combination of all of these, but most fundamentally that good people are really just a stone's throw away from being terrible people and he is set out to destroy Gotham, even conspiring with Crane to prove his point. His work inspires the Joker and his teaching inspire Bane.
Three movies, three evils, one common philosophy: that humanity doesn't deserve to exist, and that they intend to prove this fact to justify their genocide.
EDIT: This is why Ras works as such a good archnemesis to Batman. If you think about it, Ras believes that humans invite corruption into their lives and that Gotham is at the tipping point, just waiting for that seal to burst and that evil to take over. Batman agrees with the first part, but the key difference is that Ras believes humanity is irredeemably corrupt whereas Batman believes in the possibility of redemption for (almost) everyone... this is why he doesn't kill anyone.
I say almost because everyone because there is one person Batman has let die, the one person in whom he recognized irredeemable evil: Ras al Ghul.
My point being that Alfred is the moral conscience, but it was a discerned effort to keep him off screen as the point of this film was to explore the event of Gotham without morals, in 'liberation' or anarchy. The lack of morals was represented in his absence. Besides that you make very valid points, that I feel don't need to be argued.