Employee gets fired for bye bye in Vegas!

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Matthew M. May 18, 2012, 5:31pm UTC

Very weird but she doesn't have a right to the job. So the lawsuit is probably wrong.

Leah Christensen May 18, 2012, 5:34pm UTC

Why doesn't she have the right to the job? Is this the 1910's when the little woman stays home? If they fire pregnant women, I suggest they start firing those who got them pregnant too!

Matthew M. May 18, 2012, 7:07pm UTC

Leah, this has nothing to do with gender. Men don't have a right to a job either. No one has a right to be employed or remained employed by anyone else (unless they have signed a contract stating otherwise).

Leah Christensen May 18, 2012, 10:00pm UTC

If people don't have the RIGHT to a job, how are they supposed to pay for the rights they do have, such as food, water, clothing, and shelter? Unless people have the right to employment, the welfare lines are going to be even busier than they already are!

Matthew M. May 18, 2012, 10:07pm UTC

Because you don't have a right to any good or service from another person. That would be slavery.

You certainly have a right to get employment with whoever wants to hire you.

But there is no right to goods and services.

btw, the harder it is to fire the harder it is to hire. We will get more employment if we treat it as a voluntary contract between parties.

Leah Christensen May 19, 2012, 3:00am UTC

What about a right to fair treatment on the job? Isn't it another form of slavery, to expect complete and total obedience from an employee, punishing them for the smallest act of human behaviour? We're ALL human, and none of us is perfect!! Believe me, if I fired lawyers, therapists, doctors, real estate agents, etc. for the smallest imprefections, I'd be firing someone on a daily-friggen-basis! The other day someone at the cafe over-sweetened my mocha latte!! No harm done, just mentioned it, and they got it right the next time. :) Didn't have to go tell their boss that they did something imperfectly human. THEY LEARNED FROM IT, DAMNIT!!!

Matthew M. May 21, 2012, 12:23pm UTC

Fair is a subjective term; we can't have a right to something so undefinable. Our natural rights are very specific- we have a right to a property- which includes ourselves (a.k.a. self-ownership). We don't have a right to the property of others (a.k.a. slavery).

So while we don't have a right to "fairness", we should demand fair treatment, of course. The market will see to it that those who satisfy our demands are rewarded; and those who don't are penalized.

This incident is an example. The employer likely suffers more from the publicity of this than he could have gained.

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Pamela Marks May 18, 2012, 5:53pm UTC

what is the difference?

Leah Christensen May 18, 2012, 6:02pm UTC

Some nit-pickets might feel that bye-bye sounds childish. I'm not that bad, but I do draw the line at adults who still say "potty" especially to other adults.

Matthew M. May 18, 2012, 7:09pm UTC

Not much to me, but the employer felt the rule was necessary. I think it's quite silly to fire over that, though, it's probably just an excuse for some other reason.

Leah Christensen May 18, 2012, 10:00pm UTC

I agree that it looks like an excuse.

Kimmie M. May 19, 2012, 2:12am UTC

Leah I am LMAO... sorry... my kiddos are grown and I have no grandbabies yet and I still use "potty" sometimes... LOL Sorry - and in New England its "buh bye".. I would get canned on the first day!

Leah Christensen May 19, 2012, 3:03am UTC

LOL Kimmie. Of course there is the fact that when I'm put with Hubby people usually think he's my DAD! haha "Potty" would just be an added insult. I just smile and say "Nope. Dad's younger, and he lives in *insert name of town nearby named after a famous city in the UK*" Not giving away the name of the city, for Dad's privacy, but when I say it, they think he lives in the original.

Of course if Walker slips, just tell him to be nice to me, or I'll put him in a home some day!

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Dorine H. May 18, 2012, 6:00pm UTC

This is appalling and misogynistic. Firing for pregnancy is illegal, so I expect she'll win the suit. "Bye-bye" may sound more childish and unprofessional to some than "good-bye", but you can't fire over something like that without first having a conversation about it! The employer disgusts me.

Leah Christensen May 18, 2012, 6:03pm UTC

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Kimmie M. May 19, 2012, 2:14am UTC

I AGREE 100%

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Mike Voyce May 18, 2012, 6:33pm UTC

For me the issues are of loyalty, respect and regard. The employer fails on all on all tests of values, humanity, common sense and intelligence - and should be named and shamed.

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Nippy Katz (Not his real name) Demigod about Town May 18, 2012, 7:29pm UTC

I once worked for a company where people were fired for using yellow post its and disciplined for not aligning their venetian blinds with the blinds in neighboring cubicles. Before I started there there had been some wrongful discharge suits and things loosened up a bit.

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William M. May 18, 2012, 7:59pm UTC

I wonder if she can win the law suit.

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Nurse Nancy S. May 18, 2012, 9:19pm UTC

I hope to hell she wins that lawsuit.

Ok, I said everthing that I need to. I need to skadaddle and go potty..BYE, BYE!!!

Leah Christensen May 18, 2012, 10:05pm UTC

Hope this is satire, Nancy. I once heard the excuse that a parent raising a number of children, will lapse into baby-talk. Sure, bye-bye isn't as bad as "potty."

My mother ran a nursery school for 15 years, and in those 15 years, dealt with hundreds of children. She now works with kids the same age, in special needs programs. She raised my sister and I, and never once, were childish words like "potty, binky, baba, blankie," or others, spoken. Mom always said "if you want your children to grow into mature adults, speak to them like matue adults. Teach them the language properly."

I have often wondered it "potty" is an American thing. OK you might hear a Canadian refer to potty-training a child, but that's where it STOPS. Never will you hear a Canadian say "potty" in adult conversation. I had to explain this to my husband, lest we find ourselves in a very nice restaurant out of town, and he suggests I "go potty" before the long bus ride home. Were that to happen, I'd leave him there.