Obama on Rush Limbaugh: He's a Liar!

Limbaugh is a consequence of technology. The lack of it in his waxing youthful years. The abundance of it in his waning senior years.

He is of my generation yet I cannot tell you one thing he has accomplished. Other than his being a troll before its time.

Ah yes, the Liar in Chief talking about liars. The only thing that is more humorous than his vicious attacks at personalities who don’t like his policies, is his horrid understanding of history. Never mind that the Interstate Highway system was originally thought up by F.D.R., one of the real reasons shy Dwight D. Eisenhower pushed the system was “national defense.”

“Eisenhower gained an appreciation of the German Autobahn network as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe during World War II. He recognized that the proposed system would also provide key ground transport routes for military supplies and troop deployments in case of an emergency or foreign invasion.”

Stupid is … well it’s just dumb. Rush doesn’t represent the republican establishment and he’s no “leader of the GOP.” Any time you try to put Rush down more people are going to be curious about him. After the flap about Fluke, his ratings actually went up. Now this may be a a clever plot on the President because he may have secretly purchased stocks and something to profit from Rush’s success as a result of being bashed by the POTUS, but I doubt it. It’s just plain old dumb.

And, by the way, the “true conservative” is the guy who keeps sending teams to challenge you in court. So that list would start off with Mark Levin, not Rush Limbaugh.

lol, good one!

"I don't know how to keep up with this conversation, so I'm going to fling insults. derp herp derp" *drags knuckles*

You basically just said "I know you are but what am I."

Heheh.. now run along and get some juicy-juice from your mommy. I don't debate with grammar school students. Especially ones who are so intimidated by me that they just insult -- and then cry when it gets dished back to them.

(in other words, you have a long way to go before you're at a level worthy of actually getting halfway to me. But your public attempts at doing so, is giving quite a few people the giggles. You're constant unintentional embarrassment of yourself serves as pretty good entertainment in between posts.)

;)

JJ, you're insulting Levin. Levin would be a 1966 Olds 442 next to a go-kart.

Levin would not even need to start the engine.

No cookie, I am not sexist, I treated all communists, socialists and fascists the same. They are evil, and they want evil perpetrated on the people. It is that simple. If you say that Marx is not all that bad, well then you are an evil wolf regardless of your gender or any other attribute.

Clark, heh, even Levin could use a 1966 Ford Anglia with a 4 banger, 1 liter engine and win. I'm with you, Clark, on Marxists. Communists and other progressives. Sure some might be well meaning but if you go against them, you're a heretic and the really evil ones would just end up putting you in a gulag or killing you. Socialists of all stripes have killed over 100 million directly, maybe 300 million people indirectly in the last century alone. It's like the old adage where the dictator says, "free vanilla ice cream for everyone" and one guy says, "but I prefer chocolate," off to the gulags with him.

"The slogan "Forward!" reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/30/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-marxism-socialism/

Cookie, watch out now. This crowd hates women who are smarter than they are.

The only problem was the only "forward" that Europe could ever do was move forward to despotism. They saw first hand the fruits of their utopian lunacy (the rise of Emperor Napoleon) and failed to learn from it. They then (like the fictional BORG) attempted to infect the world with it and almost succeeed in the United States.

P.S. I love a lady with a keen mind.

Yes, Christopher, Fundamental change, freedom into communism.

So, Rush is wrong because he's not a Marxist?

1. marxism really isn't a horrible thing unless you're either rich or brainwashed by the people who pay you peanuts.

2. Rush Limbaugh is "wrong" because he seeks out to divide americans with hateful vitriol, etc etc.

i.e. attacking women, gays, blacks, and practically anyone who isn't a fat white POS.

Marxism isn't the same thing as Communism. They differ rather greatly.


Again, a basic education would make your opinions mean a little bit more than nothing ;)

(what's sad is people are able to "google" almost anything in the world they want to know.... but some people just.... don't..ignorance MUST be bliss )

"Rush Limbaugh is "wrong" because he seeks out to divide americans with hateful vitriol, etc etc." Thank God we have Obama to right that wrong. Yeah, Obama, the great uniter. He has really brought the country together moron. And, I hope you got a warranty with your education, because otherwise, you got ripped off.

uhuh, because nothing unites a country like racism, bigotry, hatred against women and the sick dying in the streets.

Stay classy.

The DemocommiRATS have elements of every evil form of governance in their party. They hate everything that made America the greatest nation on earth. The last 50 years of the education system has created an army of ignorant "useful idiots" willing to bring down our country and replace it with a pipe dream. You Chelsea are not too bright.

Communism and Marxism are not the same thing, JJ. They may have evolved off of one another, inspired one another, etc etc etc blah blah blah, but they're not the same thing.

In a socialist country -- the government wouldn't have the $

in a communist country -- they WOULD have all the $

there are very important differences between the two, such as that.

I don't think it's my education that needs to be reviewed. I make straight As and Bs -- and this was part of my sociology class, which I passed, with an A.

I know the school of Limbaugh and O'Reilly is free and all, but it isn't helping you.

Which is why you use the insults you use in place of substance. You're intellectually weak, and angry about it. You shouldn't be angry about it. School is affordable if you let it be. ;)

Opinion -- I'm sorry that the progress of the nation has made it difficult to get a job without having basic elementary knowledge and education. "Useful idiots" brought you the internet.. that tool you use your elementary grammar skills to rant and rave with no substance about politics, right?

I'd rather be a useful idiot.. than simply just an idiot ;)

Do you remember Charlie the Tuna? Gosh you remind me of him.
There is a difference between stupidity and ignorance, but somehow you've mastered both.

Insults are the tool of the intellectually weak. Running out of things to say? Thought so ;)

Ha ha ha yeah, arguing with idiots gets old. Were you born an idiot or ya work on it all day? You sure got it down like an art form.

sure you do JJ.. sure you do.

I see opinion is still raging out because he couldn't keep up with anyone here.. that's sad :(

funny how I'm accused of being on welfare...

do you and Opinion Nate Ted live together by any chance? It seems that the whole "i'm not that bright so I insult people" tactic is shared wholly by you guys.

it's amusing.


"ARGGGHHHHHHH I'm so angry arrrghhhhhh" hahaha

"Insults are the tool of the intellectually weak." Really?

yes, I've told you this 4 times now. I'm glad you've finally grasped it.

there's something wrong with that sentence, JJ.. Let me fix it for you:

"She says as she points out our misunderstandings, which anger us and cause us to insult her. It's an insult to point out that we're wrong and lack an understanding of what's being discussed, so we're going to call her names and then cry about it when she points out that these insults are just more proof of our shortcomings."

there you go.. Now it's more rounded out and accurate.

Please present a list of the things I have been wrong about with a detailed and source-backed list of the corrections as you know them.

here's the difference between you and I, JJ, and I'm going to include your own quote as an example:

"You are much to uninformed and lacking in critical thinking skills to achieve and real academic achievements unless you are on the public dole and taking very easy courses."

You see, when I point out your lack of grasp on a topic -- it's over something you've said or done to PROVE that. When you make a retort, it's an insult, dipped in hyperbole, surrounded by assumption, offering no example of WHAT was wrong with absolutely no reasons offered to explain why.

That is why you're not at my level, man ;) and probably never will be. And I bet that just eats you up inside.. that you can't even debate against a woman with even an ounce of class and self-dignity. You just choose to embarrass yourself.

And I appreciate it, trust me ;)

4 times, oh my. Yeah, I didn't understand it the first 3 times since you were insulting everyone else. I didn't know why you didn't simply tell us that you were intellectually weak. Hey, we're all understanding.

insults are the tools of the feeble minded, Opinion Nate Ted

I thought you already got it? Did you already forget? Oh dear...

Nate, and JJ, got her pegged. I said similar things last night on a different thread.

Chelsea, regardless of how you want to hide behind definitions of words that liberals love to redefine as they see fit, the fact is that both socialism and communism are both centralized governments that do not care about the freedom of the individuals. Racism, sexism, fill in the isam blank, the government will not care a bit about what you think once they have power and shortly thereafter, your opinion of Marx will change. Your lack of history is showing... What do you think of woman’s rights in communist China?

Communism and Socialism are two different things. Regardless. Interchanging the two is a fallacy.

But yuh, you know, when you're right you're a liberal, apparently.

No side stepping the question.

One of the problems of discussion in general is that they often get bogged down in details. Names often deal with the details. Socialism, Communism, and even National Socialism, although differing greatly in the details are all derived from progressive utopianism that developed in Europe and had its heyday in the United States in the early 20th century under a diverse assortment of Presidents from both parties that included Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt. Generally speaking, when most people complain about socialism or communism, they are really complaining about progressivism. The fundamental view of the relationship of the government and the governed is the exact opposite from the view that was held by the Founding Fathers. Progressives, obviously believed that since they came after the Founding Fathers, their ideas are superior, but that kind of false superiority was rampant in the late 19th century.

Clark I wasn't aware there was a question. I don't read past the first line when you leave long comments.

Shorten your comments and I might pay attention to you. Same goes for Chris and his longwinded A$$

What do you think of woman’s rights in communist China?


"The slogan "Forward!" reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/30/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-marxism-socialism/

The constant self promotion is nauseating. A sales pitch that is hollow, with no takers, is just annoying by the 3rd or 4th device employed to sell the fake product. You made one statement of fact, and the rest was just self promotion and insults. Hardly a laudable debate, Chelsea.

Chelsea, I will use short comments from now on.

Limbaugh is a disgrace. But I don't see how Obama--either directly or even indirectly--claimed that Limbaugh was a liar, based on the Post, above.

If it's extrapolated from the quote--as you imply that it is--please demonstrate how.

Certainly, "lying low" isn't what you're referring to.

If it's in there, fine; otherwise, such false claims can do nothing but hurt the Liberal cause:

It would be a way for Right-wingers to pounce and say that we are just as guilty of propaganda, as we say they are.

The pot and the kettle. By far the most well know liar Obama calling someone else a liar is absolutely hilarious. Communists have to lie about everything because their track record sucks. That's why they hide behind nice sounding names like liberal, progressive, democrat. Now they're ever attempting to hijack the Independent label.

produce list of lies with credible sources.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

Who lies more? lol



Research -- learn to do it. The internet is bigger than Gather, Facebook and porno.

Produce a list of Obama's lies with credible sources?
"(what's sad is people are able to "google" almost anything in the world they want to know.... but some people just.... don't..ignorance MUST be bliss )"
You don't want to know, you just want us to go off spinning our wheels.

You know what that comment reminded me of? Remember in elementary school when someone would say something and someone else would say "you don't know what that means"
"uh huh, yes I do!"
"Then what does it mean?"
"I'm not telling you!" (because I really don't know)

So what grade are you in? When you hit high school, things get way more interesting!

Yeah, I never played those games. You're pretty familiar with 'em? I pretty much passed on that stupid stuff. At least you'll always have those fond memories of your wasted years playing games.

Yes I am familiar with it -- I'm witnessing it right now. The only issue this time is I don't know whether you're 10-years old or an adult with severe emotional issues. It seems your modus operandi involves making an ignorant claim and then insulting the person who wants you to back it up.

Again, insults are the tactic of the mentally feeble. I can tell that "thinking" isn't really your thing. That's why you're so hateful. It's hard to be nice when everyone around you displays higher thought process capacity. It's also hard to be civil or even social at all in situations in which you lack an understanding of the topic or lack the basic vocabulary to continue on with the topic.

I understand, and I want you to know that I donate to causes that help people like you. I do reach out to individuals who didn't get the education they deserved either because their parents homeschooled them improperly, they dropped out or they just wren't to fast on the upchuck if you know what I mean.

I'm a humanitarian, and as snarky as I can be. I just want you to know that I do feel your plight and you absolutely have my pity. There are organizations out there you can seek out to help with your problems and I donate to a lot of them, so who knows. Maybe someday I can help you.

*sniff sniff*

OK, but what does "wren't" mean?

Thank you, Maree ;)

p.s. I'm not 27

but thank you again!

Her comments toward me always drip with grudging envy and jealousy. It's typical. She's been this way since I joined (and has even been warned a few times via reports to mods) but she always comes back. She just can't help herself.

Chelsea you are the MOST arrogant person I have ever read!!!

Now just a doggone minute, there, maree b. There is NO liberal on this site more arrogant than I am. Who the heck do you think you are, giving my title away without even so much as a how-dee-do?

Chelsea, get off your butt and find the sources on your own Google it, it is easy. Many of us have real jobs, families and lives yet you expect us to do your work for you. Typical. I do my share, millions on welfare depend on me. God gave you a brain, eyes and fingers, use them. Hwoever, i am a compassionate man, here's some bones for you:

www.pjmedia.com
www.lewrockwell.com
www.hoover.org
www.mises.org

lol what are you babbling about?

It's over and above your head.

Maybe it's too far below it?

Uh, TMI, TMI!!! Don't go there.

Obama is the liar. I used to always our president. But I've had enough. Obama and his cronies rammed through healthcare and totaly ignored Repubs. For two years Obama had total control of both houses. Yet, spending is out of control. Obama has run up 14 trillion in debt., more than any Pres. in history. The democrat controled senate can't even get a budget done. Does anyone believe the unemployement rate is 8%? Please, this is the liberal media proping up Obama or trying to. The real unemployment is above 15%.

Why would Obama call Rush a liar. W. never did that. W. had some class but Obama has no class. The Pres. is supposed to maintain the high ground and not act like a school yard bully battling in the mud. But that's eaxctly what Obama is, a bully. Obama was supposed to be a uniter and have the most transparent admin. He has been and is the gratest divider and has the most corrupt intentions and policies of any Pres. He has turned blacks against whites, poor against rich. All the hatred and class warfare can be laid solely on Obama. He is supposed to be the leader. But as we see he is no leader.

I am totally sick of, and will never forgive, people like Bob Beckel, Nancy Pelosi, Jeremiah Wright, Frederica Wilson, Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayers, Jimmy Hoffa, Al Sharpton…et al. They are directly responsile for hate, class warfare, and the end of polite debate. You can't debate these people. They are fanatics totally devoted to socialism, communism, or whatever white-washed term like progressivism you want to use. They have labeled us "enemies". What do you want to do to "enemies"? Kill them, that's what. They hate white conservative males and they want us dead and out of their way. They want anyone who doesn't believe what they do dead.

How many times did liberal democrats say they wanted W dead? How many said they wished Dick Chenney would die? They all did. We heard this every day for eight years. How do you liberal pukes feel about that. Well, I'm getting angry now. W. is one of my heros. I think W. and RR are two of the greatest Pres. there will ever be. Obama will go down as one of the worse, with Immy Carter second.

lolz

Media Matters and their assault on Rush.

Aw-w-w... poor Rushie. Did the President's pointing out what a miserable excuse for a human being he really is hurt his wittle feewings? What, pray tell, do Rushbo and his suckling ditto-heads all have their knickers in a twist about?

Oh, BTW Mr. Smith, Media Matters is a publication/blog/whutevah I've never read. And they're not leading this attack on th' long-winded Bloviator of the EIB. People like me are leading it. We don't need no schtinkin' Media Matters.

and this is why I am voting for Rupaul as President, Phi Phi I want for VP, and I got a list (yes, Santino is on it) for congress....

Hi Chelsea

I don't mean to ruin your thread but I cant help asking this. Why is it that so many people of a conservative leaning appear to be so think? I am talking about the commentors on here. I had the same problem on Myspace when attempting to debate them. Facts appear to be an inconvenience to them. Many, if not most of them appear to be of limited intelligence. They seldom appear to actually put any thought into any of the feeble arguments that they attempt to make. They appear to resent science and to fear the art of logic and reason.... I could go on and on.

I honestly dont know how you manage to put up with them but I do admire your bravery when it comes to your willingness to constantly wade through the diarrhoea that they constantly produce on here and seem to want to pretend is reasoned logic..

Lol World. You made me smile.

And yeah, it's a bit of a headache to wade through all the dookie :|

WorldB, you seem to like Freedom, so do we, rather than attacking us, why bother. If you find something lacking, point it out.

Clark Bars, my grandmother made the at he factory, they were yummy.

Clark B said.... "WorldB, you seem to like Freedom, so do we, rather than attacking us, why bother. If you find something lacking, point it out."

Clark, I am aware that you are capable of breaking wind so lets keep it simple. Re-read my post, nice and slow, and perhaps this time round you will get it.....

Yeah, she did, Easter and Christmas, we hit the motherlode. I was the youngest out of the cousins so they always set me up to go up and bug the adults to give us more candy.

your original post was on the mark, and got a recommend from me. Yes, it is hard to visualize the current crop of Republicans advocating ANYTHING that would use tax money to construct large scale public infrastructure- unlike China which is going to make us look like a backwater soon.

As to Marx, I'm not a fan. He was in fact the originator of Communism. Marx a good guy, but understood? Nope. In Europe and the USA, unionism stole his thunder. It became unneedful to overthrow capitalism when those who did the work were actually paid for their work. In Russia, oppression was met with revolution; in the West, revolution became pointless when unions gained stature in the sociopolitical arena and Robber Baron oppresion was left on the side of the road with a flat tire.

In 2012 of course, the fat cats of Capitalism want to keep ALL their money instead of most of it. Some things never change, and each new generation must come to terms with the fact that the Constitution is a political document which does not outline what to do with our economy.

Right, but marxism is socialism -- not communism. There are very specific differences.


It gets old seeing the right-wingers interchange the two terms as it shows that they just don't know what they're talking about.

It gets old seeing the right-wingers interchange the two terms as it shows that they just don't know what they're talking about.

Yeah, when I told one that true Communism has never existed, their only response was to ask me for a "lesson" on Communism since I was "an expert." Uh, it's not my job to educate Conservatives on something they too could learn if/when they picked up a book.

dude.. I know right?

Chelsea, no, it does not matter what the differences are. They are both evil! You could put sheep’s clothes on either and it will still be a wolf.

"true communism has never existed", not for lack of trying, not for lack of blood, not for lack of other peoples wealth. It fails every time!

I vow to fight Communism, Marxism and Naziism, they are all faces on the same die.

It's because they're losing. Straight up.

Loosing, we shall see. We can speak to why capitalism is good, but you guys have yet to say why you think the evil izams are good.

The commies are losing. Maybe in the short run, they could be gaining or seem to gain but overall, they will lose. The bad thing is that if don't stand up now, between now and that time, many more will die. Socialists have killed more than 100 million people in the last century alone directly. Maybe 300 million total with the indirect deaths.

Karma is a funny think. Clark, you brought up the radical Islamists. They would curbstomp the socialists if given the chance and there is a side of me that hears them crying to us for help, I'd just sit there in my best Ernst Stavro Blofeld way stroking a cat on my lap, an M-14 rifle at my side and one eye on the radar/ICBM screen (to contain them if need be) and loads of beer and popcorn. They in a way would do our work for us, but then they will turn on us hence my idea of containment. We used that logic in the 1980's, but it came back to bite us, but then again, during the Cold War, things were different and as the saying goes, "let tomorrow take care of itself, we need to worry about today."

However, I do have a compassionate side, I would help them out but they will have to meet my terms and conditions 110%.

RF Burns, you would not want me to call you and up the ante, would you? Oh well, I call and raise you.

Obama is the liar here. Limbaugh actually speaks the truth when he broadcasts anywhere. Liberals don't like him because he speaks the truth. Same with O'Rielly.

might wanna plug those fantasies into politifact

"Limbaugh actually speaks the truth"

like when he argued that any young woman who wants health insurance to cover her contraception must be a whore? Just asking.....

You "just asked" the wrong guy. This lack-wit will say yes.

yeah, spelling O'Reilly as O'Rielly. Pronounced "Oh really?" :)

Oh, like we didn't know Rush was a liar. Way to state the obvious, prez.

lol right

People like El Rushbo and Norquist are the very reason why there is such division among American voters.

Absolutely. And Norquist was a buddy to Jack Abramoff, who is out of prison now and "reformed." And Abramoff had weekly meetings with Senators right before going to prison, including Rick Santorum.
Something is definitely wrong in this country when a "person" like Grover Norquist is calling the shots.

I guess I have to say it would take one to know one.

actually it does not take a liar to recognize a liar. it's very simple. If you know what the truth is, and the guy comes up with another version of reality, he's a liar.
It's not rocket science.

Exactly, Obama actually thinks that nobody knows he's lying each time he opens his mouth and speaks. Obama is a liar.

the desperation of the far right is becoming more apparent as november looms closer.

Obama 2012: a sure thing :)

You might be bouncing a rubber check there, lady. Barry Hussein Soetoro might get spanked by Romney, "like a 4 year old at K-Mart" in the November election.

;) wishful thinking is good for you.

It is and has been known to work, that and the power of prayer.

Rush's ratings are way up over the last few months. I'm sure Obama calling him a liar will only push them up even further.

you're probably right

I'm just stating a fact. At one point I thought he had retired or something until all the recent stories had put Limbaugh himself in the news.

"Obama on Rush Limbaugh: He's a Liar!"

This is one of those trick, paradox thingies, right??

Like when someone says, "Everything I say is a lie....I'm lying."

I get it......good one, Huff Girl!!

;)

It's Obama who is the liar. Republicans aren't keeping anything from happening in Washington. And the ones who are trying to hold down his spending spree are doing exactly what they were sent to Washington do do

I still don't get why liberal/progressives think that Rush Limbaugh is the voice of conservatives. That is such a hoot. The only time most of us even know what he's said is when some lib/prog points it out.

Any sources or is this just more far-right hot air?

This was fun!!!