***Vintage Gingrich***Loses FL (reminds us why)***Campaign Fund Payment Questions Arise***

As we have often seen and heard, Obama utilized his campaign contributions without discretion, including paying HIS lawyers to protect and continue to hide his real birth certificate. Not sure that issue will ever be settled, until it it too late to do anything about it.

So Newt's making a profit in running for President. I find that very interesting. Those campaign contributions are ending up in Newt's pocket? I wonder how many of those contributing knew that would happen. I wonder how many of them care.

Larry, Linda very well knows, with full explanation, that Newt payed his CHARITY for use of it's mailing list. He first of all, does not gain from this, except his campaign getting to use the list! Second, he had to pay for it, or be charged with converting the value of the list to his personal use INSTEAD of paying them. That would be against the law, stealing! Just because he set up the trusts, does not mean he can steal what is set aside for charity. He was generous enough to give his book proceeds to the charity, and they also retained the rights to WHO bought the books as a mailing list. Linda sounds lower than Obama when she keeps repeating these lies!

Now Char, that last comment was beneath you and I'll just chalk it up to your emotions. How do YOU know it's all lies? It sounds more like excuses and people like Newt give excuses all the time when they do something wrong - justify it and then believe their own words. We'll wait for his response but am sure he will just as eloquently justify it as you just did.
Obama does it on a daily basis as does his administration! Aren't you tired yet of the same ol same ol? The actions look questionable, at the very least...

Linda, Was it not you I fully explained this to?? It is true he paid for the list, TO HIS CHARITY! The charity owned it, not him. Don't you understand, when you have a tax exempt charity set up, separate you can't just convert it's property to your own use without paying for it??? I really thought I explained this to you already, the term is "conversion" in regular corps, but I'm sure with the charity it is more serious, since it is a tax free source.

THIS information, coming to light is what one should expect who could see through the rhetoric of Newt. I am an excellent judge of character - I do believe in forgiveness, however, when you continue on the 'narrow' path of what is right and what is wrong, then we must continue to question. Some would defend - I say it's self serving and Newt 'helps himself' to everything he wants - personally and professionally.

Linda, This is the last straw. You are guilt of the worst misinformation, and for what??? Hits on Gather, to make like Paul is even nastier than he has been himself? Why would you bring up those lies about the mailing list again, when you know he had to pay fair value for them?

I'm reporting it for discussion and understanding, and you are certainly free to counter and give links as well. This is what freedom of speech is all about and we don't know what we don't know and some things are true whether we believe them or not! New't can't hide his record but he does make excuses.
Ron Paul CAN defend his record, and even those who cite him as "Dr. No" understand his principles are never compromised and even the look of impropriety doesn't arise. It's like Paul said in the debates, Newt and Romney and Santorum spend ALL their time defending their positions and deciding which one will get them the most votes today, even it if is different from yesterday and then do what they want tomorrow. Don't you see the difference yet?

The look of impropriety in the newsletters, like that is what you mean??? But, I have never said a word, because I can't prove he did or didn't know about them, or agree with them. he isn't stupid though, I bet he was fine with it at the time. Anyway, you don't see me putting it in big headlines. I was positive I already explained to you why he HAD TO PAY for this, or he could have been charged with stealing the lists. Even paying too little could have left him open to charges. It's a CHARITY, his money, GIVEN AWAY! Jeez

Well, you are right about the newsletters, and in today's society, don't you think it would be easy enough to prove, if it was true? And, you are right, people have and do change their minds about things but we cannot see into his heart, however we can see everything he's done since, and hear his words as to what he wants to do now to eliminate race issues - period!
I didn't question what Newt did with campaign funds, and those who did will be looking for an understanding, perhaps the same as you noted above.

"Newt Gingrich’s campaign paid him $47,000 for a list of supporters

I didn't question what Newt did with campaign funds, a

You need to read what you write/cut&paste!

It is italics and clearly noted from an article(s) others wrote. And, yes, I want clarification, so guess technically it could be 'questioning' - we all have the right to know what a potential leader of the free world is doing in front of us and would be a good indicator of what he does behind the scenes as well.
ALL these illegal activities of this administration, all that are brought to light, and they just thumb their noses at us because they are protected...
I will not stand for anyone anymore that does not intellectually and morally support my values and principles - period!

He had not called by 9:30. Do we know if he called after that? Or are we just assuming that he never called at all? Looks like an incomplete picture to me.

I take it you'd rather have Romney. We all know that Paul cannot win.

It's not been reported that he called and am sure it would have been included in today's article.

No, I do not support Romney. I will vote for Ron Paul, even if I must write his name in - but don't think that will be necessary. If it comes down to debates between Romney and Paul, Romney will have to pick his a** off the floor because Paul has forgot more than Romney is capable of learning. They will then talk policies w/o mindless rhetoric and prepared script.
Then, and only then, will voters get the full picture.

I don't care if he didn't call. If somebody told that many lies about me, I wouldn't call him, either!!

that's the problem Char, I think personally you DO care but continue to support bad behavior...

You couldn't be more right about this, Linda: "If it comes down to debates between Romney and Paul, Romney will have to pick his a** off the floor because Paul has forgot more than Romney is capable of learning." The next sentence, though, I believe is where you have to get more realistic. "They will then talk policies w/o mindless rhetoric and prepared script."

As much as you're correct that there won't be the mindless rhetoric, the points that they will be debating still require a context of in depth background knowledge to understand the validity of positions like Ron Paul's that most average Americans just do not have.

There is no time to educate them in these sound-bytes, and if he tries, it will only make it worse because he can only explain such a trifle that the trifle he's explained makes him look nuts. So all he's got is to keep pumping the message and to do as best as he can to rebut the points that Romney will make which is not enough.

Romney has procured for himself the best debate coach money can buy. He'll instruct Romney how to hold the attention to his points to the extent that it will make Ron Paul look obfuscating to even introduce his own ideas which are so different from Romney's in any rebuttals Ron Paul attempts. The way these so-called debates are set up, there is no way any candidate can, who is not at least as dishonest as his opponent, fare as well, much less someone like Ron Paul who doesn't also have the physical presence to sustain attention. It's not because Ron Paul hasn't forgotten more than Romney is capable of ever learning, but because Ron Paul cannot possibly explain to the public in these forums enough to make them understand from where he is coming that he won't win debates against Romney. Then you have the media pundits on top of that to twist any nuances and anything that is the least bit nebulous in the way they favor. The dice are so weighted in these stupid "debate" charades that if the public would realize it, they'd be highly insulted that the formats they have devised are so condescending to their mentality.

You are absolutely right, Sue. The knowledge and experience Ron Paul has gained over his life cannot be explained in snippets. He saw what was happening, tried to tell/warn people, over and over, yet no one would listen or could understand. His knowledge and vision are the very things this country wants to lead the way. It is sad that the things you note will be the face of the debates.

Kind of a bit off the beaten track unless you follow my thoughts, but I saw a post about Tammy Faye Baker quotes. (Mesner, or whatever the last name ended up being) You can see in her words a lot of her personality, and she had a good heart, it appears. But then you think about how oblivious she was to anything outside her realm of comfort and you have to wonder how she could possibly overlook the world beyond hers to the extent it seems she did. She had to have had some realization that the world didn't revolve around her, though how much of it she had the capacity to understand, we don't know. How accountable she was for what she might have done that she didn't because of her narrow perspective, we don't know either. I see so much of Tammy Faye in the American voter.

People are so busy, just trying to survive, or working for things they don't want, let alone need as they are all intrinsic. I also believe it was intentional as they wanted children out of the home so they could be easily led, with no moral fiber or sense of family. So it's easy to allow others to decide for them... that way, if there was a mistake, there is no ownership.

Yes, I think you're right, Linda.

Of course, over the months, I've been listening to more and more talk about contrails so the direct cause and effect is getting murkier all the time. :)

and chemtrails?

Yes, chemtrails is the term I meant. Sometimes I think I've been affected too.

hmm

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