Former Amanda Knox Sweetheart is Dating His Cousin!

oh my!

ok

I understand Raffaele is ssad that his and Amanda's relationship didn't work out,but this is strange if it's true. I live in the south and there has been a long running joke that this happens in Alabama. I read that while they were in prison amanda sent Raffaele a letter saying she would always are bout him,but that she still had feelings for David Johnsurd,who she dated before she left for Italy.

This is strange. I have no idea how distant they are, honesty I doubt they are 1st cousins but who really knows their 5th cousins so I also doubt they are that distant. According to google 2nd cousins or first cousins once removed can be considered distance cousins. So this would be my guess or 3rd cousins. Really anybody that you know is a distance cousin is probably too close to marry let alone date. This whole thing is a soap opera and had so many conflicting reports.

@Rachel - your comment was accidentally removed during a cleanup of spam comments, you can put it back.

My apologies.

Fishing for more Knox hits, Chelsea? Racking up those Gather points? Why not put it aside and go back and get your GED. You could become a dental assistant if you applied yourself. You're only going to be a kind of cheap writer.

Thanks for clicking, Patrick ;)


(ps I'm well beyond a "GED", but I hear that self-projecting is an indicator of an emotional or mental disturbance.)

Oh, yeah? What do you hear about schadenfreude? After you've looked it up, find a mirror. There's a woman in there with a bad case of it. Before you type another word, why not try to help her?

schadenfreude lol, that's actually going on one of my tattoos ;)

That'll be the one that reflects the true 'you.'

Thank you :)

PS -- you refer to schadenfreude as if it even applies to the Knoxy case, and you're wrong.

I have nothing BUT sympathy and heartache for Meredith Kercher and her family. I'm not "victim blaming."


But ya know.. I don't expect everyone to know the definitions of the words they use. ;)

Schadenfreude means taking pleasure in the misery of others, and you certainly are exploiting the problems of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito to entertain the readers of your sleazy blog. As someone once said, Google is your friend: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&tok=qi3-scGgzPEvVujAmg1d0A&cp=13&gs_id=5&xhr=t&q=schadenfreude&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=schadenfreude&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=76147c48b2eb760f&biw=1366&bih=653

That was all cut off, dude.

And yah, you know what Schadenfreude means -- again it doesn't apply to Amanda Knox, because she is not the victim. Schadenfreude is when pleasure is derived from misery of others ESPECIALLY IF IT'S DESERVED -- i.e. a murderer gets the death penalty, a rapist falls off a cliff and dies, etc etc etc -- those are the things that harken schadenfreude.

Again, I don't have "schadenfreude" for the VICTIM of this case (Which is Meredith Kercher, not Knoxy)

Use google a little better -- or at least.. I dunno... READ the extended definitions and anthropological explanations of words. You might come across a little more intelligent if you did. ;)

I wonder what you call it when you call someone who has been convicted and may be convicted again a "victim." -- when the actual victim is the one who had her throat crudely cut and a towel thrown over her face....

I wonder what you call it when you call a rapist a "victim"...

I'm pretty sure there's a word for it ;)

The only reason I'm paying any attention to you is because Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito proved to an Italian court last October that they were not involved in the death of Meredith Kercher. They both most certainly the victims of your calumny and libel. Why don't you ever condemn Rudy Guede? ALL THE EVIDENCE implies that HE killed Meredith Kercher. There is NO EVIDENCE of either Amanda or Raffaele in Meredith Kercher's room.

"the only reason I'm paying any attention to you is because --" Blah blah blah , Patrick. You're usually one of the first people to post on EVERY SINGLE article I do about this particular case. What you have here is an obsession and it's mildly entertaining at best.


So now you're going to cry because I'm not writing about Guede? He's serving time for HIS PART in the murder of Meredith Kercher. You remind me of the Chris Brown fans who cry when I choose to write an article about Chris Brown instead of Charlie Sheen. Guess what? Deal with it. Nobody is making you read and nobody is making you haunt every article I write about this case to insert your obsessive and misinformed posts.

However, I understand that it's not abnormal for criminals (serial killers, murderers, drug addicts etc etc etc) to gain "fans" and I'm sure if you try really hard, Amanda will make you honorary fan club captain some day ;)


p.s. -- Amanda Knox did NOT prove she was innocent; The courts just admitted to screwing up PARTS of the investigation and that there wasn't enough evidence to keep her in prison. That's not the same thing as "proving innocence."

;) Kind of like the Casey Anthony thing. There was enough doubt to let her off the hook, but enough evidence for the real world to know what happened. Same thing with Amanda Knox and her cousin-loving ex boyfriend ;)

You really need to read Hellmann's summation to his motivational report. Here, I'll cut and past it for you:

"But the only circumstantial evidence which remains solid (consummation of the crime of calumny but without the alleged aggravating circumstance, not-totally-proven veracity of alibi, dubious reliability of witness Quintavalle) does not, even taken together, allow us to arrive at the conclusion that the culpability of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito of the crime of murder (and of the other crimes instrumental thereto) has been proven in any way. The collapse in its substance of the circumstantial evidence on which the Corte di Assise of first level based its own decision exempts us from having to propose an alternative hypothesis.

Once the presence [sussistenza] of proof of guilt concerning the current defendants has been ruled out, it is indeed not up to this Court to suggest how the events may really have unfolded, nor whether the perpetrator of the crime was one or more than one, nor whether or not other investigative hypotheses have been neglected. What is relevant for the purposes of [our] decision is only the absence of proof of guilt of the current defendants.

Whence their acquittal of the crimes alleged in Charges A,B,C, [and] D for not having committed the act, and of the crime under Charge E because the act did not take place.

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The acquittal of the defendants of the crimes attributed to them (with the exception of the crime of calumny, of which Amanda Knox has been declared guilty) brings with it the rejection of the request made against them by the civil parties with regard to the crimes in question: Mrs. Aldalia Tattanelli and the relatives of Meredith Kercher. The incidental appeal submitted by the Public Minister, which presupposes a verdict of guilty, must likewise be rejected."

Did you get that. I'm going to repeat the salient part again so you understand what was proven TO THE COURT:

"Whence their acquittal of the crimes alleged in Charges A,B,C, [and] D for not having committed the act, and of the crime under Charge E because the act did not take place."

The Act Did Not Take Place. They did not play ANY PART in the murder of Meredith Kercher. Hellmann doesn't know who did. His job is not to determine whether Guede acted alone or with others. He is confident enough in the INNOCENCE of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito as to confer their IMMEDIATE release.

Do you get it? It was PROVEN IN COURT that they did not do the crime. Not that there's reasonable doubt. Not that the evidence was too weak to convict. Amanda and Raffaele are INNOCENT of the crime of murder. They didn't do it.

Casey Anthony was completely different but she was also correctly acquitted. In that case the prosecutor could not even prove an actual crime ever occurred.

I have no idea who Chris Brown is. Did he murder Charlie Sheen? I enjoyed his work in Platoon. Is that the same guy you're taking about?

My obsession is not with Amanda Knox or Raffaele Sollecito. It is with injustice. I fight many cases of injustice. This is one.

LOL.

Patrick. Patrick.

"I have no idea who Chris Brown is. Did he murder Charlie Sheen? I enjoyed his work in Platoon. Is that the same guy you're taking about?"



I don't even care how much we've argued. I laughed so hard at this, I fell in love w/ you a little.


(that was really, really freaking funny.)

I heard vaguely that something bad had happened to Charlie Sheen recently. There's a Christopher Wayne Brown who wrote the book, Media Tried, Justice Denied, about the unjust death row conviction of Darlie Routier in Rowlett Texas 1996. I don't suppose that's the same guy?

Lol.. no.

If you really don't know.. and you're not just being funny and clever (which I still think you are)

Chris Brown is the rapper that beat up his ex-gf Rihanna in 2009, and he's always in the news doing something stupid. Anytime someone writes about Chris Brown or mentions him, he has a group of "fans" called #TeamBreezy (lol) and they go CRAZY and cuss you out and say things like:

"How come you don't write about Charlie Sheen? You must be racist."

It always boils down to "Why don't you write about what Charlie Sheen does?" -- and it's all because back in 2009 or so Chris Brown made the comment about how everyone is trying to keep him down and that people need to focus on Charlie Sheen (yes, very random, right?)

So yah..

Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

*facepalm*

just know that it's hilarious to think about Chris Brown facing off against Charlie Sheen... that's all.

Patrick, Are you the very same Patrick King who liked a comment on a recent ground report article. The poster used John Kercher's name to make some very nasty comments.Now that is a true victim Meredith's father , look in the mirror and say Schadenfreude

amen!

@Dylan, the sad thing is, the Amanda Knox camp comprises of a tiny handful of people who make multiple online accounts so as to make it look like she has any support beyond her own family and the PR firm they hired. (some of these ppl have never heard of hiding their IP lol)

I don't know whether I'm the same Patrick King or not, Dylan. I don't recall the context. I am extremely interested in violent crime and have studied the types of people who commit them and the circumstances that stress those people to the point of violence.

In the spring of 2008 I was researching the crimes of Judith Anne Neelley. I thought she was about the most dangerous female murderer so far apprehended. Then I heard about the crimes of Amanda Knox.

It is completely unique for a middle-class woman who has achieve academically to the point of being accepted into a foreign exchange program, to be the ring leader in a knife attack against another woman so I immediately started looking for information.

If you read the crime analysis books by FBI profilers, John Douglas, Robert Ressler, Roy Hazelwood, or Russell Vorpagel, they explain in great detail the psychology of people who commit violent rapes, murders, burglaries and arsons. These crimes are psychologically very closely related.

The murder of Meredith Kercher had all the earmarks of an opportunity rape murder. These crimes are most frequently the acts of lone males under 30-years old with very specific backgrounds in common. It is today very easy to predict what males will develop these kinds of problem, and hopefully, in the future, we will be able to resolve most of these issues before the the abused subject ever offends.

The problem we had in Italy, especially in Perugia which is a very provincial area where crimes like the Kercher murder are completely uncommon, is that local law enforcement are not aware of modern research and are completely inexperienced at investigating these crime scenes. It is still policy for any police departments in a circumstance like this one to look first to the immediate relationships for a solution. We see this in the Jon Benet Ramsey case, the Darlie Routier case, the OJ Simpson case, even Roman Polanski was initially suspected of being involved with the murder of his wife, Sharon Tate.

In the case of Amanda Knox, police relied too much on their intuition and did no serious psychological research into that crime specifically or crimes like it in general. Had they done so they would have ruled her out as a suspect by November 5, instead of intimidating her and cooking the evidence to fit their impossible and unlikely crime theory.

By April of 2009 I was convinced that Amanda Knox and her boyfriend were completely innocent of the crime. I thought Italy was a modern country and that they would be released through the trial process. Their conviction completely ruined my Christmas 2009, and in January I began working with The Friends of Amanda Knox to overturn the conviction.

As Chelsea mentioned, FOAK was a small group of 4,851 people who contributed monthly to Amanda's defense fund. We included 48 Hours Mystery host Peter Van Sant and their investigator, Paul Ciolino who coined the phrase in reference to Amanda Knox conviction: "The railroad job from hell." Also among us was former FBI special agent, Steve Moore, who wrote an extensive analysis of the crime scene and his wife, Michelle, a constant voice on the internet, forensic engineer, Ron Hendry, who's analysis of the break-in proved conclusively that someone had broken into the cottage and it was not "staged" as maintained by the prosecutor. Genetic scientists, Mark Waterbury, who wrote a book on the errors of the DNA analysis in this case, and Greg Hampikian of the Idaho Innocence Project who was able to demonstrate on television how those error occurred. Out in front of the protest against Amanda's conviction was best-selling author, Douglas Preston, who had first hand experience with the corruption in the Italian legal system that tends to cover up high profile murderers' crimes. He and his co-author, Italian journalist, Mario Spezi, had first-hand experience of the methods of prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini. They both had plenty of incentive to recognize Amanda's innocence and to want to stop Mignini's reign of terror in Florence and Perugia.

When the Italian appeal court ordered the DNA retested and the crime scene re-examined, all these investigators were proven to be correct.

I do feel great compassion for the Kercher family. I think Rudy Guede should be tried for the crime he actually committed and sentenced appropriately.

The only relationship Amanda Knox had to this crime is that she rented the room next door to the victim. She was clearly not home that night and had she been she would likely also have been murdered. All the physical evidence proves this. There was no evidence of Knox or Sollecito in the room where the crime occurred.

Personally, I have nothing to do with a PR firm. I am just a person interested in crime and especially in prosecutorial errors and misconduct resulting in unjust convictions. I am currently working to get a new trial for Darlie Routier, erroneously convicted in the stabbing death of her son. No one pays me. In fact I contribute my own funds to help people I feel need my support.

Something not right there.

Agreed.

That's a bit random, dont you think?

Seems to me like you (Rita Kemezin) are pondering on that topic. Not me.


I don't care how many people Knox slept with. Being a c**dumpster doesn't make someone a murderer. It just makes them a c** dumpster. That's not illegal. ;)

Hi Partick, I can tell you are earnest in what you believe to be a good cause. I must disagree with almost everything you wrote though. Judge Micheli and Massei did not get it so wrong. Ak confessed to being at the cottage not because she had been mistreated no she just learned after short interview RS was no longer providing an alibi. The break in was staged Hendry sure got that wrong , multiple attackers, and yes DNA evidence in the cottage. Bring in the Vidocq Society!!

People believe what they want to...I believe Raffaele & Amanda are INOCENT.

Okay, I'm a little concerned that this author of "several" published works began a sentence in this article with, "Her and Raffaele Sollecito". Grammar? We can has it??