OWS: Hey, I'm Pissed Off. What About You?

Totally agree they (gubment) better be scared!

Maybe, by next year the poopers will shed their diapers and have grown up enough to get a job...

Nice thought Vickey, but where are there jobs?

uhhhhh, that should read "their jobs" and not there .... I simply must learn to spell.

Yup, the get a job thing makes great sense. Uh huh. The unemployment problem would be solved if only all those unemployed people would get jobs. You betcha.

Yeah, the GOP says cut off unemployment benefits - It just encourages all of those millions of lazy bums....

I hope we won't be exchanging one "Nero" for another worse "Nero". We believed lies once and the fire has almost destroyed Rome. Maybe if the whole U.S.A. joined the OWS movement someone just might change something. When Marie Antoninette was told that the people had no bread she said "then let them eat cake". They beheaded her and the revolution was on. Our OWS seems to be the beginning of our revolution but will they give up? Time will tell.

If people stop feeding them they will give up ... a man WILL eat and a man WILL feed his family. I wonder how hungry they will have to be before they give up? I hope our jails and prisons are big enough to hold them who resort to crime to feed their children. It's happening all over America.

..... just saying and thinking out loud!

Way to go, Ms Lee. Keep thinking. Don't mind my bad hair day. They just plain piss me off. This is insanity. I feel like Yossarian in Catch-22 - Either I'm insane or the rest of the world is. Wish that I could do what he did - Row off into the Mediterranian & leave the world behind. If I didn't give a crap about my grandson, I would.....

The OWS folks are just the Messengers ... those that don't think deep enough would kill them rather than the real enemy that the message is all about ... maybe the real enemy is larger than the 1% ... like those who keep on enabling them ?

They arent kicking the crap out of peaceful protesters because they just feel like it, they are scared, scared their gravy train is about over.

Gravy train paranoia?

A great link, Ron. Others please read it. The corporacracy IS scared! Don't let them let us become our own enemy. They need to create an "Enemy" - Lately, it's become immigrants.

As Naomi said in the link above: Sadly, Americans this week have come one step closer to being true brothers and sisters of the protesters in Tahrir Square. Like them, our own national leaders, who likely see their own personal wealth under threat from transparency and reform, are now making war upon us.

The GOP/TP problem is very simple: as the millionaires (or those making more than a million per year) have already funded the GOP/TP why should they, on top of it, pay for income taxes?

Worse, as the money Koch and others gave to Cain is pure loss, why the Dems keep asking them to share a bit with the middle and low classes? They already lost enough!

KochCain already stated they lost his campaign money because of the Dems who keep finding girls who have been taking profit of him, of his generosity. One seems to have raped Herman for 13 years and he never complained. Was he already feeling that no one would believe him?

Yes, this Williams (?) girl was sent by the Dems already then, because they believed that one day or another he would become interested by the Presidency.

Well, this is the difference between GOP/TP and the Dems: the latter have a much better idea about what will be going on!

And as your BDLs continue trying to make the Koch brother connection to the TEA Party we know who supports the OWSers;

The 99%: Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors and sympathizers

Communist Party USA

Sources:

Communist Party USA, OWS speech, The Daily Caller

American Nazi Party

Sources:

Media Matters, American Nazi Party, White Honor, Sunshine State News

Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran

Sources:

The Guardian, Tehran Times, CBS News

Barack Obama

Sources:

ABC News, CBS News, ForexTV, NBC New York

The government of North Korea

Sources:

Korean Central News Agency (North Korean state-controlled news outlet), The Marxist-Leninist, Wall Street Journal, Times of India

Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam

Sources:

video statement (starting at 8:28), Black in America, Weasel Zippers, Philadelphia Weekly

Revolutionary Communist Party

Sources:

Revolutionary Communist Party, Revolution newspaper, in-person appearance

David Duke

Sources:

Talking Points Memo, video statement, davidduke.com

Joe Biden

Sources:

Talking Points Memo, video statement, Mother Jones

Hugo Chavez

Sources:

Mother Jones, Reuters, Examiner.com

Revolutionary Guards of Iran

Sources:

Associated Press, FARS News Agency, UPI

Black Panthers (original)

Sources:

in-person appearance, Occupy Oakland, Oakland Tribune

Socialist Party USA

Sources:

Socialist Party USA, IndyMedia, The Daily Caller

US Border Guard

Sources:

White Reference, www.usborderguard.com, Gateway Pundit, Just Another Day blog

Industrial Workers of the World

Sources:

IWW web site, iww.org, in-person appearances

CAIR

Sources:

in-person appearance, Washington Post, CAIR, CAIR New York

Nancy Pelosi

Sources:

Talking Points Memo, video statement, ABC News, The Weekly Standard

Communist Party of China

Sources:

People’s Daily (Communist Party organ), Reuters, chinataiwan.org, The Telegraph

Hezbollah

Sources:

almoqawama.org, almoqawama.org (2), almoqawama.org (3), wikipedia

9/11Truth.org

Sources:

911truth.org (1), 911truth.org (2), 911truth.org (3)

International Bolshevik Tendency

Sources:

bolshevik.org, Wire Magazine

Anonymous

Sources:

Adbusters, The Guardian, video statement

White Revolution

Source:

whiterevolution.com

International Socialist Organization

Sources:

Socialist Worker, socialistworker.org, in-person appearance

PressTV (Iranian government outlet)

Sources:

PressTV, wikipedia

Marxist Student Union

Sources:

Marxist Student Union, Big Government, marxiststudentunion.blogspot.com

Freedom Road Socialist Organization

Sources:

FightBack News, fightbacknews.org

ANSWER

Sources:

ANSWER press release, ANSWER web site, Xinhua

Party for Socialism and Liberation

Impressive list. Pity there's not one single link. You left off a whole lot of the American population, just ordinary joes who want our problems solved.

Oh!
Sorry Susan;

The official list of OWS protesters,financiers and sympathizers

And as I have said before, The OWSers started out with reasonable gripes but let just about anyone who wanted come down and join their party no matter how radical or depraved.

Unlike the TEA Party who quelled the racists and bigoted extremists when they tried to join in, the OWSers let the anti Semites and the like join in.

All of them are based on NERI (National Economic Research Ins.) mainly influenced by monetarists as Milton Friedman a system which already FAILED.

It is based on projection into future of PAST economics which is not taking into account: the choices from individuals, corporations, the fact that most issued money is done through share exchanges, over estimated assets (sub-primes) and is completely wrong as far as timing is concerned.

On top of it it doesn't take into account the technological evolution while it is relayed by an obviously partisan conception.

The goal is to promote mainly large corporations. The chart they suggest in order to try to match a balance budget is far not detailed enough as to allow considering organization changes as, p. ex., the about 20% lesser expenditures in Medicare and Medicaid due to less attendance to Emergency rooms; the non ability to slow down some military expenditures either due to technology, either due to the ending of some war theaters, the non ability to stop some subsides to corporations alike the oil industry, etc.

The main idea they have is to low down expenditures (but, of course, not their own) while avoiding to raise taxes for millionaires and corporations, this is to say that middle classes and lower classes would see their own ability to spend shrinking.

Maybe this way Rolls Royce, Cadillac and other Aston Martin industries would be in a position to hire and to sell more ...

The question is not for how long this could go but how many Cadillacs a millionaire could drive simultaneously.

Economy is not a plus and less science: it has to take into account the many feedback of each decision and it has to take into account the "inertia" of them because often the consequences start showing up after a minimum of 6 months and will not show full effect before 2 or 3 YEARS.

And the inertia works in both ways as no one can stop a heavy giant tanker within less than 17 nautical miles.

Thanks for the link which provides enough information, from link to link, to show all of this. In some way, I would qualify, despite his Nobel prize, Friedman as a demagogue.

To complete this long comment with some tangible example I would like to point out that a friend of mine, well-known GOP supporter, owner of a huge agricultural land near the Mexican border, told me recently that, despite the need of some 100 employees, he discards any American because Mexican never complain whichever the conditions are and are hard workers accepting wages about 50% LESS than the usual American worker.

This raises 2 questions:
- How come the agricultural market is being so much disrupted?
- How come the GOP can support not raising taxes on millionaires while refusing to pay decent wages to Americans.

IMO, if something is illegal over here, it's not the immigration but the hiring discrepancy. What about the state collecting, as tax, the difference between the paid wages and the minimum American wage in the area?

"The OWSers started out with reasonable gripes but let just about anyone who wanted come down and join their party no matter how radical or depraved."

Unlike the TEA Party. :)

Gilbert, thanks for mentioning inertia. It's a feature of the economy that gets ignored in political discourse.

Dan, and all his friends, will say anything, do anything, because they are scared

Well Ron,
We know you support the radical fringe and that's fine with me, it's just that all of this OWS stuff isn't going to change the direction of the country.....The 2012 election isn't going to go in your favor.

Dan prefers to think that he is among the 1% ... all FOX fans seem to.

As far as I heard it, Dan DEPENDS from this 1% to help making his own living.

Only if you avoid telling the truth, Dan, like your republican spin doctor tells you to there, lol. Tea Party is getting its clock cleaned in its own backyard, Ohio, Wisconsin, etc

Of course, lying your ass off is something we already know you can do.....

Unlike the TEA Party who quelled the racists and bigoted extremists when they tried to join in, the OWSers let the anti Semites and the like join in.

LOL, you told them they couldn't bring signs anymore, that's all, get real.

Dan E. I will appreciate a response from you (or your employers) to my own questions:


- How come the agricultural market is being so much disrupted?
- How come the GOP can support not raising taxes on millionaires while refusing to pay decent wages to Americans.

After all they cover a lot of problems about the real markets, the immigration, the American worker, the education, taxes, etc. and they are directly related to reality ... I feel they deserve a detailed answer including how the GOP/TP intends to help to solve this matter.


So please Dan don't chicken up ....

"As far as I heard it"

Gilbert, You have heard no such thing...You are lying!

Jerry,
You and your ilk are willing to take from others to pay for what you want so YOU don't have to pay for it yourself.

"So please Dan don't chicken up"

LOL!

Q: "How come the agricultural market is being so much disrupted?"

A: Aside from the problems that effect any market at any given time the agricultural market is not being disrupted to any exceptional degree.

Q: "How come the GOP can support not raising taxes on millionaires while refusing to pay decent wages to Americans."

Raising taxes on the wealthy leads to a reduction of federal tax revenues, the federal tax records proved it.
Aside from minimum wage laws, private corporations determine the wages they pay their employees not the Republicans or the Dems.

Well Dan: you have quite a short memory: about 2 months ago, you were posting comments on the same site than I, you have been accused of being paid by some corporation for posting.

At that time you don't even dare to deny it.

As far as taxing "on the wealthy leads to a reduction of federal tax revenues" I can understand your reading of the statistics - even if it is not your personal reading of them.

But in fact your mysticism makes you believe that the corporation is your own reference system, your living standard and you expect your new god to repay you for fidelity.

Corporations don't mind: they want to avoid any future competition because they are unable to face nowadays the technological demand. So your god is asking you to promote the idea that jobs are not existing because of a non existing market. And to achieve this, corporations, your new gods, have to increase the joblessness list.

As the new ordered tooling will not be in before 12 to 18 months from now, they want to take profit of your own mysticism in order to delay any market improvement.

This is why you, among many others, deny the reality and, instead, try to show an image fitting with the image you have of your new god.

Wake up Dan: you are far from being independent and you sold your own soul for a dish of lentils!

Gilbert: GREAT comments above. Thanks for your informed input.

Jeez, you musta shook him up, Gilbert, I didn't even get a simple frack you out of him, lol.

Your kidding right Jim?
I mean about Gilbert's comments?

You understand Gilbert's broken ESL English?

I know he's trying to toss what he thinks is clever insults around but his English is so bad that it just comes across as clumsy.

Gilbert,
Clever is never a good argument it's a sure sign that you don't have one at all, argument that is!
You make assertions...I counter and you respond with what you think are clever insults....Because you can't debate the issues.
you are an empty container, vacuous of any ability to debate discuss or do anything but insult.

Clever? Insults?

Indeed we don't share the same reality neither ways to read.

You have to have a reasonable grasp of a language if you are going to conversate with it Gilbert.

"Conversate"? Try "Converse" The ability to dot your "I"s & cross your "T"s has nothing to do with common sense & intelligence.

Yes Jim Conversate....It's a real word.