It is clear from examining the amounts and percentages of our national budget spent on various things, that the largest shares are consumed by Medicare, Social Security and the military. It should be equally clear that if significant reductions are to be made in that budget in order to begin to whittle away at the enormous and potentially bankrupting Federal debt, each of these three voracious areas of expenditure must be trimmed significantly.
Rep. Paul Ryan has already offered a practical way to do so, by gradually reducing the Federal commitment to the first two. Hopefully our withdrawal from the three wars we are in will accomplish big reductions in military expense.
Gather friend mickey d posted a blog today calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme, which is a kind of congame designed to eventually defraud later investors because it pays older investors with the proceeds of newer investments. Eventually, when the number of new investors shrink or disappear entirely, returns can no longer be paid to all older investors. This is my comment to that blog:
I was not sure if taking the deliberate Ponzi scheme analogy back to FDR's time is entirely fair, mickey, so I took the usual lazy way out and checked Wikipedia aka The Main But Unfortunately Mostly Pro-Socialist Online Encyclopedia.
After getting past the "Intitial Objections" section which only noted one objection and then negated it by immediately suggesting a reason it was wrong (as Socialist media always feel compelled to do when forced to have to report on something they don't agree with) and then went on and on about how women and minorities, especially Blacks, were originally excluded by various nefarious means, after that there is this:
In the 1930s, the Supreme Court struck down many pieces of Roosevelt's New Deal legislation, including the Railroad Retirement Act. The Court threw out a centerpiece of the New Deal, the National Industrial Recovery Act, the Agricultural Adjustment Act, and New York State's minimum-wage law. President Roosevelt responded with an attempt to pack the court via the Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937. On February 5, 1937, he sent a special message to Congress proposing legislation granting the President new powers to add additional judges to all federal courts whenever there were sitting judges age 70 or older who refused to retire.[22] The practical effect of this proposal was that the President would get to appoint six new Justices to the Supreme Court (and 44 judges to lower federal courts), thus instantly tipping the political balance on the Court dramatically in his favor. The debate on this proposal was heated and widespread, and lasted over six months. Beginning with a set of decisions in March, April, and May, 1937 (including the Social Security Act cases), the Court would sustain a series of New Deal legislation.
Two Supreme Court rulings affirmed the constitutionality of the Social Security Act.
Steward Machine Company v. Davis, 301 U.S, 548[24] (1937) held, in a 5–4 decision, that, given the exigencies of the Great Depression, "[It] is too late today for the argument to be heard with tolerance that in a crisis so extreme the use of the moneys of the nation to relieve the unemployed and their dependents is a use for any purpose narrower than the promotion of the general welfare". The arguments opposed to the Social Security Act (articulated by justices Butler, McReynolds, and Sutherland in their opinions) were that the social security act went beyond the powers that were granted to the federal government in the Constitution.
Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619 (1937), decided on the same day as Steward, upheld the program because "The proceeds of both [employee and employer] taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like internal-revenue taxes generally, and are not earmarked in any way". That is, the Social Security Tax was constitutional as a mere exercise of Congress's general taxation powers.
So in other words, Social Security was upheld due to Roosevelt having successfully intimidated the Supreme Court into backing it by threatening to "pack" the Court with Socialists by having the number of Justices raised. The Court's main justifications for upholding Social Security's Constitutionality were (a) the Socialist "Living Constitution" approach which says that it's ok for government to do new stuff if it is justified by an emergency situation, in this case by the Socialist interpretation that the "promote the general welfare" clause in the Constitution justifies implementing welfare programs even though the Founders knew nothing of the concept, and (b) the money collected from future recipients is called a tax rather than a contribution, so Social Security is ok because government has the power to "lay and collect taxes," and had been allowed to collect income taxes by a previous Constitutional amendment.
It would certainly seem that any reasonably fiscally responsible person would recognize that unless huge numbers of new workers were added to pay into the system, the Federal contribution could never be covered except by more borrowing, especially if the Fedgov did not invest worker contributions in interest-bearing saving funds rather than spending it.
It could easily be argued that had the workers put that money into a life insurance policy, for instance, they could have doubled their money or more on their own with little additional effort and therefore have received the same net value as the Social Security system offered. Were they particularly astute investors they might have increased the amount available at retirement by much more than that.
This does not even consider the expensive additions to the Social Security program involved with such things as disability and aid to dependent children.
It is hard to escape the net conclusions that (a) Social Security was a political ploy by Democrats to win votes and make Americans believe the Fedgov was coming to their rescue, that (b) it was a Keynesian policy designed to justify pumping borrowed money into the economy, and (c) it was as big a step into establishmentized Socialism in its time as Obamacare is now.
PS: I hate to add to the length of this already obscenely long blog, but last night Rick Perry apparently called Social Securty a Ponzi scheme. Rush Limbaugh commented on that just now, noting Social Security is worse than a Ponzi scheme because:
a. A Ponzi scheme pays older investors with money from new investors. Social Security pays older investors some of the money from new investors, and then spends the rest on other things which help promote the reelection of members of the majority party in Congress;
b. Investor participation in a Ponzi scheme is voluntary. Social Security participation is mandatory;
c. When a Ponzi scheme runs out of enough money from new investors to cover commitments to older investors, it collapses. When Social Security needs more money to pay recipients (or wants more money for those reelection aids), it raises taxes on new investors. The percentage of income taken has risen since the 1930s from 1% to 12%, with the maximum taken from a worker's income rising from $60 per year to $13,400. Adjusted for inflation, the amount taken from new investors has risen 800%.






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You hear people justify it out of neglect or ignorance about what it would have earned in accumulated interest or profit had it not been given to the government. That and/or "I just would have blown it on something else." In which case they are suggesting that they have no ability to personally discipline themselves. Then how did they manage to survive up to then?
A whole life insurance policy is an excellent way to invest and control your own money (NOT term)! It will not only protect your family, in case something happens, but you can borrow from it (without permission of the govt or the bank) if necessary. It is discussed in the recommended book as well.
When I first started out I got a life insurance policy from a Prudential salesman, but soon decided I did not feel comfortable "betting against myself" and cashed it in to buy stock for my part-time collectibles business. Not sure now if I'd have been better off sticking with it, but I'd have a lot more savings to access.
The whole idea that government can invest for your retirement better than you can is only true for very irresponsible and unintelligent people. I hate to take the Obaman Eugenicist line, but would we be better off as a species with or without those kinds of people? Just kidding LOL
Isnt this true too? That a woman and draw her ex husbands social security check even if he is married again as long as she was married and not remarried to him for 10 yrs.?
Isnt it also true, that when you are married and the husband worked enough to pay in his units that the wife can also, get a social security check even though she never worked . Where does the money come from to give people disability checks if they never worked for the money, they still can get a social security check?
Last one, why are those that are getting a social security check allowed to work? I thought the idea was that if you are disabled, you cant work?
If all of this money is coming from our from social security... NO wonder the system is broken...
I do know that since I was in a state educational system which had its own retirement plan, my 34 years as a teacher did not count for Social Security points, and although my wife gets Social Security, I don't qualify. Whether it works the other way for wives of men who qualify I do not know.
We really need to reevaluate the entire system. Socialism has crept along and grown so much that it clearly cannot be sustained.
Basically I think we need to begin by rejecting the whole idea that anyone has a right to other people's money, including the government. The Constitution was founded on the sanctity of private property, on the notion that each individual citizen would be better off being able to keep every cent of the fruits of their own labor.
Communism preaches the opposite, that everything anyone makes belongs to everyone. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is the Communist justification for perpetual wealth redistribution. We've let too much of that economically unsustainable incentive-crushing entitlement attitude seep into American life.
I have often wondered how we are any better off now by giving so much money away then we were years ago when people paid their own ways, and knew it fell on them .. There werent all of these freebies out there..
That is an important point in understanding the Socialist mindset. They are enamoured of the psychological theory called "Behaviorism." Behaviorism includes the study of learning by conditioning or the pairing of sensory stimulii. They believe that the conclusions drawn from Operant Conditioning, where animals learn that certain actions produce certain good or bad outcomes, proves that humans are all alike in their reactions to their environment, and have the same needs. So for them indeed "one size fits all," and they think science proves that.
As you probably know, one result has been Socialist advocacy of various prohibitions, because they assume, for instance, that cigarette smoking is equally bad for everyone. A recent scientific study concluded that that was incorrect, that there is apparently genetic protection from the ill effects of many things we ingest for perhaps between a quarter and three quarters of the population.
The same conclusion was drawn in another study done a couple of years ago which was quickly suppressed by the Socialist media, because it specifically claimed that 67% are relatively unaffected by tobacco smoke.
In other words there is a natural immunity some people have.
The nature-nurture controversy is one significant way to distinguish the Socialists from the Capitalists. The former favor nurture explanations, that we learn by experience but are biologically very similar. That is why they favor policies which treat everyone the same vis-a-vis their needs.
The Capitalists, who support maximum personal freedom, emphasize more the differences in what "nature" gave us and how those determine different need levels, personality differences, etc. Studies of identical twins raised apart have in recent decades supported that "nature" view.
Where grandchildren attend school, if they are 'good' all week, and don't get any 'demerits (or whatever they call them)', they get a treat on Friday! If they step outside the box (or think for themselves, ei supposed to draw a pic of a dog, but included a tree w/o being told) or they were talking or shaking their foot) or anything the teacher didn't like - for whatever reason. Then, NO treat, and everyone knows because they notice you did not get the treat!
It could easily be argued that had the workers put that money into a life insurance policy, for instance, they could have doubled their money or more on their own with little additional effort and therefore have received the same net value as the Social Security system offered.
Yes; but that assumes that free people, when left to their own devices, are capable of progress and sound judgment. you see, that's not the case. We need the wise and benevolent public benefactors of the federal state to take our money by force and to put it in "safekeeping" for us, so that we'll have it when we reach retirement age.
See, ordinary mankind tends toward backwardness and self-destruction. We are only rescued from this tendency by the benevolent (if coercive) oversight of the superior race of beings, homo sapiens politicus and homo sapiens bureaucratus.
We're so lucky.
Thanks too for the nice encapsulation of the Socialst mentality, albeit sarcastic LOL
Basically the American left starts with the assumption that Americans are just like the people in third world Socialist countries, where Socialism has crushed their self-reliance and enterpreneurial spirit for generations. The more they succeed in adding more Socialism to America, the more true that will become.