Casey Anthony Trial: Caylee's Mother Must Testify Say Experts

I think she missed her calling... she should have gone into acting... she didn't cry for Caylee, but now that she is on stage, I mean at her trial... the tears are flowing.

I think it's sick she accused her father of sexual abuse. She will do anything to save her neck. I think it would be a mistake for the defense to put her on the stand... all she knows how to do is lie and the prosecution will shred the opening statement story... and I am sure she will spin a tall tale and everyone will go, Huh???

This entire thing is one huge, horrible nightmare.....I am now really wondering about the father, George Anthony......he used to be a cop for many years..........and then turning around and "abusing" his own daughter? That just seems hard for me to believe.....then, later on, everything had gotten so bad, that he tried to take his own life.....I really worry about his "mental health" at this point.......he may end up with huge, huge problems as a result of all of this.
I have no idea what to think anymore.......it's all taking forever to get on with the trial, it seems. Think I'm gonna have to watch part of it on t.v.

Nora, Casey wrote another prisoner that her brother touched her boobs at night and she wondered if her Dad had done that to her when she was small... Then we hear Baez say in opening statements that she went to school after her father made her give him oral sex ( only he used cruder language) He is so dumb to stretch her "wondering" into a vulgar act. Poor George Anthony, what an awful thing to do to him.

I just read that the Anthony's attorney said they knew for about 6 weeks that she was going to do this to her Dad. He said that George said he would bring a lawsuit if they did go through with it.

This all makes me sooooooooo sick........I don't believe that George Anthony coud have done ANY of that crap and feel sooooo sorry for him. It's all so terrible and I wonder if they will ever get to the actual truth of what did happen?

I think Casey Anthony tells constant lies. If she takes the stand, I doubt if she will be able to keep all her lies straight. I think she murdered Caylee and that she deserves the death penalty.

Caught up in her web of lies? Not unless we're as dumb as she seems to think everyone is! She is the textbook definition of a sociopath. No conscience, no feelings of guilt - whatever lies will conveniently exonerate her from this murder rap will be spouted. If anything, I think her parents knew soon after they found out Caylee was missing that Casey had everything to do with it - and once the baby's body was found, I think they knew who did it. They just couldn't face it - couldn't fathom how the daughter they loved could murder their beloved granddaughter without a shred of remorse. Casey was too selfish to give the baby to her parents to raise. But when Caylee became inconvenient for her, she got her out of the way. And now blaming the parents who put their lives on the line to try to convince themselves - and the world - that their daughter wasn't to blame. How sick.

You summed this up better than I could.

If her home life was so bad, why didn't she leave? I think it is horrendous what she said about her father .. her daughters gone, . her parents life have been ruined and now she heaps this on them. They are losing their home, last I heard to foreclosure. I doubt her mother can ever return to working as a nurse and where ever these people go, people are going to be mean to them.

I think it's going to backfire on her big time. I think the jury is not going to pity her as she wants. Throwing her father under the bus... yea, I can feel the love there... not.

Thank you, Heather. It's a damn shame for her parents. And I don't think she turned out the way she did because of them. They practically raised Caylee, who was a wonderful little girl. Casey was what they used to call a "bad seed" - as I stated, a textbook sociopath.

I doubt if she's a sociopath, Jeanne and I say that because if that were the case, she would have been ruled incompitent to stand trial, which in turn means that there wouldn't have been a voir dire (jury selection). Arrogant? Maybe. Did she lie to the cops? Probably. Is she a murderess? That's why they have a jury from Clearwater (Pinellas County) because of the publicity that hangs over her like a dust cloud hanging over Pigpen.

Sociopaths are deemed competent to stand trial - they know the difference between right and wrong - they just choose to do what they want. On the other hand, the man who tried to kill Gabrielle Giffords and who did kill the others that day has been ruled incompetent right now to stand trial because he cannot comprehend anything regarding what he did - he has been labeled schizophrenic by two psychiatric specialists. A sociopath is often highly intelligent and understands everything he or she is doing - there is just no "conscience" regarding their choice of wrong. Behavior modification, if started when sociopath traits are noticed in a very young person, can sometimes shape a sociopath into behaving correctly - not because they know it's right - because they choose not to suffer the consequences from doing what is considered wrong. Some sociopaths have a better understanding of this as adults and will marry, have children, work at jobs even in law enforcement, or business. They channel their need to manipulate others in this way - within the law as much as they can, getting away with as much as they can legally.

I don't know if it was intentional or not but I believe casey is responsible for caylee's death. To blame her parents is wrong. Why is it whenever a kid messes up the parents are to blame. Casey is an adult, she knows right from wrong and she chose to make her decisions not her parents; she needs to be held accountable for her actions.

I will grant you that she is responsible for the death and does need to be held accountable. Did she murder Caylee? Hard to say. We're only two days into this thing and this jury is going to as my cousin would say "take their common sense with them" into the jury room.

It also seems strange to me that Casey would let her young daughter live and be alone with her father if he had sexually abused her. It doesn't make sense.

Good point.

I think this is just another one of her stories to try to get out of it...If Caylee drowned in the pool then why the big act of her being kidnapped by a babysitter that doesn't exist. And why would she need to look up chloroform and how to make then proceed to make it, then have her daughter in her trunk for days, which evidence has proven. I think she should get the death penalty when found guilty she doesn't deserve the right to live.

If you watched the trial the chloroform may not have been her. The boyfriend from before this all started had a web page with some "Chloro makes her willing" flyer thing posted. (I didn't get exactly the right words, but something like that.) Baez asked him what the thing was about the poster and he said it was just a stupid joke. This boyfriend was at her house for breakfast. Maybe he was going to put a copy on her computer since he thought it was so funny. They can't prove it was her that searched on it, and in fact it seems likely that it wasn't since he was the one who was fascinated with it.

Lies more lies

Do I think she should testify? I have two words for you (and forgive me for sounding like a defense attorney)... HELL NO! She shouldn't and under the Constitution, she doesn't have to. As far as the alledged abuse and molestation by her father, I'm going to call that plausible.

I think that anyone that sits on a jury where there's been a crime committed, they should read CAREFULLY the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 14 Amendments of the Constitution. The founding fathers were very specific when they wrote those and some of us either don't get it or we didn't pay attention in civics class in high school.

After those accusations regarding her father, mother and even her brother, there is no choice but to stand trial. What makes you think alleged abuse and molestation by her dad is plausible? Most girls, when that occurs, stay as far away from their fathers once adults and certainly don't let their little girls anywhere near them!

I don't understand why the defense doesn't stipulate to the fact that Casey lied to everybody about Kaylee's whereabouts after she drowned, and that she tried to act normal. Maybe they would stop dragging all these people up there to say she lied and seemed normal.

I think it has kind of backfired on them. Everyone has said she was a good and patient Mother. That was obvious from the sunny happy disposition Kaylee seems to have had. That is why I do NOT believe Casey killed her on purpose. I am inclined to believe it was the pool accident. I don't know if George was really there or not, but he did try to kill himself, so maybe he was. Same with the abuse allegation. Maybe he and Lee did do that, too. It would explain how she grew up able to appear happy even though her heart was broken. I am really leaning to believing it was a terrible sad accident that now has become a media frenzy. If her body was full of chlorine treated water, that would explain the chlorine in the car samples, and after it leaked out, the duct taping of the mouth and nose to stop it from leaking while they buried her. It really does make sense it was an accident and cover up. George was a detective. If he did tell her she was gonna fry, she would have believed she needed to cover it up.

I like that pool theory. The pools that I've been in have chlorine in them to keep the water clean, so that could explain the chlorine in the car. When a body decomposes, it lets off odors, hence the rotting smell. The idea that it was an accident could be a cause of death.

I also believe she could have put trash in her trunk to haul it to the common dumpster and it could easily have rotted making them think it was a dead body. I have personal experience with this, and often trash builds up because it is hard to take it to the required spot. If they tossed some ground beef, isn't that a fleshy protein?? Can they really tell the difference if it's human???

I think the defense theory is way more believable than the prosecution's.

BTW regarding testifying, why would she do that? They have more than proved she is a major liar. It could only hurt her.

This is a terrible story.... I cannot believe this "mother" lies so much.......

The jurors will see right through that web of lies. If her father ever did what she is only NOW saying, then why, did she not report it? Or why did she ever allow her father to even have contact with the child? Seems pretty funny all of a sudden this comes up. Sounds like a desperate attempt to me. She has shown herself to be a lier at every turn. Why would anyone believe her now? I have a feeling her lawyer isn't the one who decided this. I do believe this is Casey's idea. I would think any lawyer in a case like this would be against the idea. What I see is she, will hang herself with her own rope, doing this.

Dee, Seems nobody believes the sexual abuse. I think her brother made a few grabs at her, that's about it. The former boyfriend testified she told him about it. It's very clear she is a big liar, but that doesn't mean she isn't telling the truth about it being an accident.

She may of accidently killed her, but it may have well as been murder when you consider her actions afterwards. She never reported her missing, partied in the absence of the child, and lied later in every way imaginable. Showed no grief, as you see with most murderers. IF it was an accident, her whatever attitude is going to come back to haunt her. But with what I do know of the case, it certainly points in the direction of murder. And this desperate attempt with sexual abuse, is going to be the lie that will most likely hang her as far as I am concerned.

I think her Father told her if anyone found out they wouldn't think it was an accident, so she acted normal. She is a very good actress, and I was thinking with all the stories she spun, she should be a writer. What whoppers! I still don't think that means she killed a daughter she clearly loved. IF the sexual abuse were true, that would explain her ability to totally dis-associate from the event and seem normal, which seems to be the reason the defense brought it up. If you heard the opening statement, he was very graphic, describing her going from a sexual encounter with her Dad, straight to school and pretending nothing happened. That's what they allege.

She is a rotten little liar for sure, I just hope someone on the jury can separate that from proof that she deliberately killed her daughter.

That explanation does sound plausible, if one is to have an open mind. There may be evidence to contradict that, I don't know. If there isn't Then reasonable doubt would be there in the case of murder. However, I would see jail time anyway, for not reporting it and leading the investigators on a wild goose chase. We can only hope the jury keeps an open mind and renders a just verdict based on evidence and testimony. If it was truly an accident, I pray the verdict will be whatever it should be for such.
It seems that the media has mashed this up to the point it is hard to truly decide what the truth may be. Her own lies, feed right into what the media is portraying. Which is a shame if she truly is a victim. I guess we can only see how this all unfolds to ever have a glimmer as to what might have really happened.

I couldn't have said it better. It remains to be seen what evidence they actually have. I wait to see if the defense puts up an expert that says chlorine from the pool could be mistaken for chloroform after so long.

We don't know what tests were actually done, that is yet to be placed in evidence.

dee, I also believe whether it was purposeful or not, she is guilty of something. If nothing else, it appears she lied to the police and moved the body. I wonder if they tried to fix it long ago, seeking a plea and declaring the accident but the prosecution didn't want to deal.. That would be a shame for the taxpayers of Orange County, spending all this money on a circus for no reason.

It could've been an accident,but what bothers me is that it seems there was a concerted effort to cover it up. If this incident WERE an accident,I would've wanted the public to know about it quickly,not wait until the police started investigating; The whole thing smells.

Yes, but most of the evidence is trumped up. I honestly believe she had trash in the car that had rotted beef or something, and even if she moved the body, she just loved her too much to kill her on purpose. Why she thought she didn't have to admit it happened for so long, I don't know. The defense says it's because her Dad, the former detective told her her Mother would never forgive her and the police wouldn't believe her. It's just a very sad thing, and now everyone has made such a big deal, I think they would convict her even if they knew she was innocent, just to save face.

I think she may have tried to tell them at some point, but they didn't believe her, so now we will see if they can prove it to the jury's satisfaction. I am waiting to see the evidence, like I said. So far all they have proven is she didn't admit it and is a big liar. It seems clear she knows more about it than she has told, everyone always knew she did.

What in the hell is Baez thinking by putting this absurd defense forward for Casey Anthony?? He looks and sounds like a fool. Understandably he's desperate to give SOME SORT of defense but this one ain't gonna fly!! If it does then they have the same kind of idiots that let OJ go free.

He does not know how to ask a question, that's for sure. What is absurd about declaring it an accident? How do you know that isn't what happened? Certainly nothing in evidence proves otherwise. If you think so, what?

I disagree with the premise that they are setting up the grounds for an appeal based on incompetent legal representation. Why would any lawyer purposely do that? It wouldn't do thier career justice thats for sure. I still believe this is the defense she wants to use to sway guilt from her. And at this point in time I believe its a mistake.

There is a lot left to come in the case. I hope whatever happens is just. This family has been through so much...

And THEY WERE IDIOTS!

The pool theory makes no sense. Baez might have convinced a least one person on the jury if he stopped there but then he tried to argue everything else that there was evidence for and that could have been explained by the pool theory. Like the dog that hit on decomposition in the backyard was unreliable (right where the baby supposedly died?) Like the trunk did not smell like a dead body( umm, what did they do with her after the "drowning") and the most ridiculous of all, the meter reader found the dead body and then kept her for a few months until he was short on his bill money. Then he paraded her out for a reward to pay for his auto repair bill. If he was that broke, why wouldn't he call in her location when he first found her as there was a reward the whole time? Oh that's right, he did call it in but no one checked it out so he went back for a second look. And let's say he did collect her bones up and ride around with her in his decrepit car for a few months. So what? That proves he's sick but the baby is still dead! The most disgusting allegation thrown out that clearly shows Casey is a sociopath who only cares about herself is the allegation of sexual abuse and daddy made me do it. It also makes no sense. I have no idea about whether the sexual abuse is another lie or the one truth Casey has told but it is irrelevant. George was a police officer. He knows that if there is an accident you report it and the legal consequences are minor, if at all. He also knows that a child cannot just disappear forever without someone noticing (Grandma, perhaps?) and that then you have major problems and legal issues like murder! The only logical reason for not reporting the "accident" was that the examination of the body at that time would show no water in the lungs and what the actual cause of death was. I hope the jurors can see through the web of lies of Casey and Baez. And I hope the prosecution will put on a competent case that allows justice for Caylee Marie Anthony.

You sound like you want her to prove she's innocent of murder. They are supposed to prove she's guilty. So far, they have not done that.

Are you saying they would not find a residue of chlorine in the lungs if she drowned? I am waiting for all the forensics before I make up my mind, unlike you I don't know what real justice would be yet.

Did you catch the variation in the meter guy's testimony? The first time he said he saw a skull that had rolled out of the bag, yet the state said it was all in the bag, and the duct tape held the jaw in place. Very inconsistent.

The prosecution is still putting on it's case and I do believe they will have more than enough evidence to prove guilt. The defense will then put on it's case to raise probable cause. My point was that it would be helpful to Casey if the defense put on a case that made rational sense. In my opinion, the case they put forth in opening arguments is not rational for the reasons stated above. My point regarding an examination of the body immediately after death had nothing to do with chlorine or chloroform. My point was if she drowned there would be water in her lungs but now it is too late to determine that because Casey did not report her daughter's supposed accident. And finally, the different accounts of the meter reader have nothing to do with whether Caylee drowned or if her mother chloroformed her and put duct tape over her nose and mouth so she could move in with her boyfriend and party all night. He found her after she was dead! Casey has told us that either Zanny took her or she drowned in the pool not that she was snatched by a meter reader. They have made no allegations against him, shown no connection between him and the child and he had no access to her room or her blankets, stickers and specialty duct tape. He is irrelevant to the death of the child so when and how he found her and whether he picked up the bag or poked it with a stick makes no difference as to whether or not Casey is guilty or not. What I said the I hoped for was that the prosecution would put on a competent case so the Caylee would have justice. The jury will decide what that justice is and my hope is that the prosecution just does their job properly.

I understand what you are saying about the meter guy. I also think the defense should have left that out. It just confuses the question of murder or accident. I can't wait to see what evidence they really have. I think everyone agrees she loved her daughter and was a good mother. When they were trying to prove her "demeanor" they really did allow the defense to prove everyone agreed she took good care of her daughter and loved her very much.

I think that everyone in the family loved Caylee at least as much as each of them could love anyone more than themselves. Unfortunately, it sounds like it was a pretty dysfunctional family and they all let that little girl down in one way or another. She deserved better.

We agree on that one. It seems the child was part of a tug of war/ Just my impression so far.