Louisiana House Bill 561 would require presidential candidates to produce an original birth certificate and also a sworn statement detailing residences for the last 14 years. This bill does not apply to states other than Louisiana, of course, but similar bills may pass in other states after this initial bill. Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, who might run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, has indicated that he will sign the bill if it comes to his desk. Could this be a sign that Bobby Jindal 2012 is a birther ticket?
According to The State Column, Governor Jindal said he will sign any bill that “simply restates the Constitution.” He joked that he would also sign a bill from the Louisiana legislature that restated the Bill of Rights.
Jindal has made no claims that President Obama was not born in the United States or that he is not a citizen. In fact, Jindal says that Louisiana House Bill 561 is not part of his personal agenda. He has merely stated that he will not veto the bill if it does actually pass in the Louisiana legislature. If there is a presidential campaign for Bobby Jindal 2012, his signing of this bill indicates he might pursue the birther issue against Obama.
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He's an anchor baby: neither of his parents were citizens when he was born in Louisiana.
According to the prevailing Republiclown/birther lack of wisdom, he's not a natural born citizen.
He has no chance of getting the Republican nomination any ways.
You folks gonna read Jerome Corsi's new book?
His PARENTS WERE NOT CITIZENS WHEN HE WAS BORN HERE. He's an anchor baby.
Anchor baby is what people who are here illegally do, so that one day their kid - a born citizen - can make them (the parents, "family") legal. When the kid turns 21 ... so this is no quickie fix.
Jindal's parents were both legal immigrants, themselves. Bobby wasn't an anchor baby, and they didn't need one.
Bobby Jindal, indeed, is anti-illegal immigrant.
Not all people who come here to attend college immigrate here. And a student visa is for a specific length of time. If a person were to stay here they would have to apply for immigration status beyond just holding a valid student visa.
Gov. Brewer Shows Some Moxie
Published: April 19, 2011
"A ray of sunshine emanating from a most unlikely source briefly penetrated the gloom of Arizona’s right-wing politics on Monday.
To the consternation of her Republican allies in the State Legislature, Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona vetoed two absurd bills: one allowing guns on university campuses; the other requiring presidential candidates to provide detailed proof of citizenship, including a sworn affidavit and a long-form birth certificate, before they could appear on the Arizona ballot.
Ms. Brewer called the ballot bill “a bridge too far.” That’s saying something coming from a governor who, last year, proudly signed a mean-spirited measure giving local police extraordinary powers to arrest anyone who could not immediately prove they were here legally."
47% of the register Republicans believe President Barack Obama was born in another country so that tells me they group of people are Racist period. The 'birther' issue is racism pure and simple.
Bobby Jindal is a red herring.
Louisiana may be a birther state.
That's the 'issue'.
How many other states will pass a bill that "“simply restates the Constitution.”?
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Jindal is pro-life, same-sex, 2nd Amendment and anti-illegals.
And he has a birth certificate.
Obama has one also. And Obamas mother was in every sense of the word a natural born citizen. Jindals were not.
I think its funny I said this right after all this birther nonsense started that issues like this usually come back and bite someone on the butt. And it looks like the GOP is going to be on the receiving end since Jindal is one of the few people that could potentially win against Obama.
The "natural born citizen" requirement for the White House, simply means that the person was born here. Under the laws we have today, babies born here to illegal immigrant mothers (anchor babies) are eligible to be President.
Long as they show an "original" birth certificate ... in Louisiana. ;)
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Agreed, Lori: Jindal is a potent figure.
His current 'liability' appears to be that he 'promised' to spend 2011 running for re-election as Governor. He then did a little waffling on that, but it appears that actually bailing on Louisiana could be costly to his credibility/stature.
I'm thinking that by now, he has waited just a few too many months to kiss Louisiana g'bye, and jump on the White House train.
A caveat on that will be: There is an unusual amount of positioning, jockeying, mystery (Buddy Roemer?!) and general secrecy attached to decisions in this race. For Jindal to be holding his cards would make sense, in that context.
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I haven't seen anything about his BC, but his parents are both technical professionals and academics. They were legal immigrants, and I doubt would fail to have 'everything in order'.
And he's an anchor baby.
Jindal is a dolt, which is why he isn't a poster boy for Republican values. But the disquieting thing about this stepchild status is that while he's not brilliant or charismatic, he's also an Indian.
No they werent legal citizens when he was born. They were both on student visas.
He might have a BC but he is not a natural born citizen.
Obamas was not only born in the USA but his mother was a natural born citizen.
Actually, he is a natural born citizen. I'm not going to be a hypocrite on that one.
Yes: I believe being born on our dirt makes him "natural born". As it does anchor babies, too.
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I don't have refs that I can give you right now ... but I have been aware for a long time that immediately preceding and then following Statehood for some years, we have historically seen a good amount of 'systematic laxity' in new states, with respect to the questions of citizenship & origins.
The big requirement that must be met to become a State, is the minimum population. Typically, the big struggle is to gain that population ... and then hang onto it ... and get it officially documented. 'Getting official' can become a 'cottage industry', at times like those.
[I do genealogy, and these 'oddities' can become very important.]
There have been 'ways' to help people who are not fully or properly documented, get those things 'taken care of' under the authority of the new State, so they can be listed on the citizen role-count.
My eyes have squinted down at Trump's dramatic claim that his team is find hot stuff in Hawaii ... i.e., does he know he is not going to actually run, so talking talk that he can't back up later doesn't matter?
A more profitable area in which to dig, may be the details of what was going on in Hawaii, more-generally, around the time when they became a state. There may be juicy stuff here. Maybe that's what Trump is talking about.
While that is interesting I dont see how it applies to either Obama or Jindal.
As far as Trump goes he wont find anything in hawaii because there isnt anything to find.
and Hawaii became a state 2 years prior to Obamas birth..so again not really seeing any smoking gun there either.
Had the 2 coincided then you might have an issue but they werent.
Marco Rubio's parents weren't citizens when he was born here either.
Now when they were going through the McCain eligibility issue one of the stipulations was that his parents were citizens.
Now in Rubios case his parents were here because of political reasons so they were seeking political asylmn. Jindals were students and hadnt applied for immigrant status.
There is a "Non-Immigrant Student Visa". But normally, a student visa is just one of many ways to be an "immigrant".
At the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement site, we read:
"The United States welcomes international students and exchange visitors who come to study in our nation. While you’re enjoying your time in America, it is very important that you understand and comply with the requirements governing your stay to ensure that you don’t jeopardize your immigration status.
By maintaining immigration status and keeping school administrators and sponsoring officials well informed, students and exchange visitors residing in America have the opportunity to benefit from the outstanding academic and cultural programs of the United States."
Most people here on "student visas" clearly do have immigrant status.
So when Jindal was born his parents while here legally were not immigrants.
That's not an issue. Most of what's in the Constitution comes without a "definition".
We deal with this all the time ... have, all along. Successfully.
"Citizenship" was an important and official concept in 'Western legal tradition' before our Constitution was written. We know where the authors were 'coming from', when they wrote down the Presidential requirements.
Google 'natural born citizen' ... pick Wikipedia.
And my original point was the same I made years ago....that people are short sighted and dont realize how things can come back to bite them on the arse later on.
Do you have a link?
I've searched with 'non immigrant' and don't find returns describing the Jindals with that term.
"Ted if you read the bio on him it says his parents were here on non immigrant student visas ..."
And on another website I heard talk of him having a forged BC but he was really born BEFORE his parents came here.
There are basically two categories of citizens, as far as my research tells me. Natural born citizens, and naturalized citizens (children of diplomats not withstanding).
If you're born here, you're a natural born citizen: if you come here, you can be a naturalized citizen. The status of your parents is irrelevant.
The issue is that birthers believe Obama has something he wants hide written on his birth certificate. Probably something that could ruin his political career in the United States.
And the reason you havent heard about Jindal is because the Dems dont really play into that nonsense and he hasnt ran for office outside of his home state.
If he was born in the United States, there's nothing on his birth certificate that could ruin his political career at this point.