Sharia Law is Evil and Wicked

You bet!

All conservative religions are horrible to women and gays - and this one is probably the very worse of them all!

Peter,

I agree totally. Not all religions are bad, buit many discriminate against women and gays. Of course, I'm not an expert on religion, but hinduism and buddhism seem the most tolerant of all religions. Christianity isn't at the bottom, but it certainly isn't at the top either.

According to Boy George in his autobiography, Hinduism is anti-gay (otherwise he would be one, now).

I don't know if the horrible killing of unwanted women in India (unwanted babies and widows) has anything to do with Hinduism, or if it's just a cultural horror.

I really have no idea what the Buddhists think about things because my Buddhist friends don't seem to know, either, LOL

Liberal Christians and Liberal Jews are very cool.

"Liberal Christians and Liberal Jews are very cool."

Peter,

For the most part, Liberals are pretty cool. And although I often disagree with my "friends" on the left, I can't imagine ever being a conservative.

>COMMUNISM.

Are you nuts!

Accusing Obama, Hillary, and liberal Dems in Congress of "communism" is totally totally nuts. Liberals often disagree with Conservatives on how to maintain a healthy market economy. But it's a "market economy" that is desired.

Obama (with the Feds) just bent over backwards saving our market economy for the last 2 years!!! If anything Obama has not been HARD ENOUGH on the banks and Wall Street!!!

Steve, you were asked on another post what you know about Sharia law and all the different versions and schools of Sharia law. You didn't answer. How about now? What do you know about Sharia law?

Cathi,

If you disagree with anything I posted, please point it out and we can discuss it. As far as answering another comment on another post, I didn't see it.

I stand by my comments that Sharia law is for misogynists. You apparently disagree. Would you want to be a woman living under Sharia law?

It's the same question. It looks like DoYou C. touched a little on it in the comment below.

What do you know about Sharia law and the different versions and schools of thought?

Cathi,

Is there a version of Sharia law where men and women are treated equal? Because if there is I would commend it. But I think all Sharia law is sexist and very prejudiced.

Ok, so basically you are saying you know very little about Sharia law, is that correct?

I will concede that I am not an expert on Sharia law. But what I do know about Sharia I find offensive.

If you know so much about Sharia, defend it. But not in generalities. Point out the good things about Sharia and we'll see if they outweigh the ba.

"The enemy of the Christians are their friends..."

Sometimes the biggest enemy of Christians are other Christians. I'd rather live next door to the Dali Lama than the Westboro Baptist Church or the Klan. And yes... the Klan claims to be a Christian group.

I would hope when one writes an article about something that they would have done some research first in order to have a firm handle on the subject. So many people wildly speculate on a variety of subjects. Many thrive on rumour and innuendo.

I just wondered if your statements above are based on verifiable fact instead of opinion, like many other Gather posts.

Thank you.

"I just wondered if your statements above are based on verifiable fact instead of opinion, like many other Gather posts."

Cathi,

Is there anything wrong with writing an article that is expressing opinions? Perhaps you can change my opinion with some verifiable facts regarding Sharia law to show my opinion is baseless.

... and sorry if I seemed like I was bashing Christians above. That was not my intent. The world would be a better place if everyone asked "What would Jesus do?" before that acted upon anything.

Indeed it would Steve. Jesus came to 'abolish' the law, and to set captives free.

Let me know when you have rewritten the entire Bible.

Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Romans 3:31 "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."

Matthew 7:12 "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

You are right, Steve. It would be a better place if everyone asked what would Jesus do. It's one of the biggest problems I have with false Christians. They forget about Jesus and his teachings.

Cool. But which to use? You quote Paul's words, I quote Jesus' words. WWJD?

“For he is our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing the hostility to an end.” (Ephesians 2:14-16


Taking the (+) human (man or woman), along with the (-) human (man or woman) and spiritually combining them them with and through the Christ Spirit (=), we complete the Trinity (+=-) and enter the Cross at it's central conjunction point, the INtersection in the very Center of It, which is the direct path to GOD (+=-) !!!

Jerry!! Good to see you! :)

I'm Buffy the Christian Slayer. You better watch out!

:-)

For example, a woman’s testimony is weighed as half that of a man in a court of law.

Within the Quran, there are multiple instances where testimony of both men and women is explicitly brought up. In only one of those, is the testimony of women equal to half of a man: those dealing with financial transactions or dealings. So first off, there is no general rule that a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's. Secondly, the reasoning for financial transactions was because women, at that time, were being held back by the Pagan Arabs in education and rights so they were much less likely to have the knowledge to be able to deal in complex business deals. Therefore, there would need to be a second woman for testimony so that they would be less likely to make mistakes.

There was one instance I remember where the Caliph Umar began to restrict the rights of women that Islam had granted. The result was a women coming to Umar's court to provide counterclaims residing in Quran and Hadith and he was proven wrong. It only took one woman to overrule the sayings of the Caliph (national leader).

Under Sharia, a man has the moral and religious right and duty to beat his wife for disobedience or for perceived misconduct, yet she cannot beat her husband for the same reasons.

"Nor should you treat (your wives) with harshness" - Sura 4:19

"Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers." - Muhammad

If you think beating anyone is being kind to them or not showing harshness, then you have problems. No one is to ever harm their spouse. They certainly don't have the duty to beat their spouse. The verse you are referring to first lists other remediation techniques in case there are problems with the marriage. The last method, that should be avoiding, is a light strike that doesn't cause pain, but is meant to shock. I've never seen a restriction from the woman doing the same to the man.

Unlike a man under Shaira, a woman does not have the right to choose her husband, where she wants to live, to drive, vote and travel freely or have freedom to do something so basic like choose her own clothing.

Where would you ever get this? You clearly know very little about Islam. Everything you just said is completely wrong. Women must choose their own husbands. Otherwise, the marriage is not valid. Within the marriage contract, she can stipulate pretty much anything she wants such as where to live.

Thank you. I was trying to point out to Steve that he has no idea what he is talking about but his "friends" who claim to be followers of Jesus were having too much fun attempting to harass me instead of actually paying attention to the post.

Have a good day!

Nasr,

In 2004, Muslim girl was hanged in a public square in Iran. Her death sentence was ordered for "crimes against chastity" under Sharia law. There were no wide-spread protests anywhere around the world by other Muslims. Most Msulims remained silent and accepted her fate as part of Sharia.

The media is replete with heinous acts committed against women and minorities. I will not remain silent against the evil and wickedness of Shaira.

Steve, nobody is asking you to remain silent. But you have a post that has false information that is being represented as fact. If it is your opinion, then you should so state. If you want a post with facts, then you should research your subject.

Otherwise you are spreading rumour, innuendo, hate and bigotry, just like others within this thread.

Speak out against things you believe to be evil, by all means. I'm just asking to take care in what you exclaim as truth if you don't truly know it to be factual.

Despite the attempts by the others on this post, I have nothing against you or your post. But since this is an article and it is not a closed forum (anything that is not flagged is included in search engines), be clear in what you say. That is all I have been trying to find out. Have you researched your subject?

Most Msulims remained silent and accepted her fate as part of Sharia.

When you make statements like the above, can you show proof that most Muslims remained silent? You have proof that an estimated 1.57 billion Muslims in this world knew about this girl and said nothing?

Do you, Steve, understand what I'm saying?

And?

You do a very nice job copying my comments, Thomas. It's almost as if you learned it from me.

I am on Buffy's side ... the side of Truth ... the side the opposite of those such as Thomas and Jim S who make things up to FEAR and complain about ...

Most of the "Sharia Law" dis-information is coming from those seeking to inflame public opinion against Muslims in general, instigated by those who want a war the sooner the better to them, those who have "captured" the Christian Right to do their bidding in voting and writing on the Internet like the names mentioned here ... people who think that we can solve problems by killing those we do not like ... far too many people who have no honest concept of WWJD because they don't even understand yet what he was all about ...

Aw, Jerry, you made Buffy blush! ;^)

I'd say Angel has his work cut out for him! He's got LOTS to do!

Hey! Look, Joyce, we made a Thomas sandwiche!

Thomas, I am for the middle that takes no side so strongly that they would kill for theirs rather than first attempt to make peace and find the truth of common ground which does in fact exist for the non-polarized.

I am all for pointing out the bad parts of anything ... but not for the reason of "destroying" them by violence as much as "changing" them more peacefully.

I don't "hate' anyone because hate comes from fear and I don't fear anyone or anything ... but I sure dislike people who spread fear fear and hate rather than attempting something better ...

:) Sadly, sadly, sadly!

"... had hope that Steve would join in the discussion... "

Cathi,

I'm not sure if I could say anything that would change anyone's opinion. I am convinced that Sharia law is misogynist and its punishments for crime are way too excessive for any civilized society.

There is no equity in Sharia law. That's not an opinion, its a fact. How can any set of laws or morals they imply that men and women are not equal be good?

And just because something is "politically incorrect" doesn't mean that it isn't true.

Cathi,

Do you believe that its alright to advocate that adulterers and homosexuals be punished? Because that's exactly what Sharia law does.

Cathi, I appreciate your concern for me, and everything you say here is true ... and beyond casting pearls before the swine, which I have here quit as of now, I leave their own sick words which represent their thinking to self-convict them ... in the end all get their just deserts.

First of all Islam isn't a race, and second of all Islam isn't a denomination in the Christian faith. You might want to try again Cathi.

Mon Dieu, je n'ai pas vu celui-ci. Vous couyon! I wasn't even talking about Islam! A little tunnel vision, oui?

They seem to be like witches mixing up some potions and chattering and chanting in some wild frenzied manner. Ahhh, Satan's little children

And I take offense to this statement.
Understand the double conceptual behaivor?

Sharia is an atavism. It's about par for the course for seventh century thinking. The Old Testament has a lot of similar stuff. In western culture misogyny has been a big thing right through the 19th and 20th centuries. A lot of the officially sanctioned violence has been swept under the rug, but popular music, theater, and stories all promote or at least snicker at it. Consider Ralph Kramden's "To the moon, Alice," or the common line from blues and country music "I whipped my woman with a single tree. You ought to heard her holler 'Don't murder me.'"