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Please do not buy fur ~ Tim Gunn shows how the animals die ~ animal cruelty you must see

March 03, 2011 04:10 PM UTC (Updated: March 03, 2011 04:20 PM UTC)

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Tim Gunn of Project Runway, representing PETA, shows how rabbits, foxes and other animals die in killing farms in China and in the US.

If you buy fur, you certainly won't after watching this video.

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Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 4:23pm UTC

My daughter in the fashion industry introduced this video to me.

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Peter Joseph Swanson Mar 3, 2011, 4:28pm UTC

Fake fur is good enough for fashion fun!

And I'm not watching the movie.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 4:38pm UTC

it is how they get anally elegtrocuted or fur ripped off while conscious and worse.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 4:40pm UTC

yes faux fur is wonderful...

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Carla G. Mar 3, 2011, 4:33pm UTC

I wouldn't and couldn't wear fur. There is no need to wear it. We're not cave dwellers with no options.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 4:39pm UTC

exactly. years ago, i had a racccon, but now havee a faux. my daughter tells me the wool industry is also bad. animals dropped in pesticides before shearing and lots of bleeding and infection while shearing.

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elizabeth evans Mar 3, 2011, 5:20pm UTC

Anal electrocution...stun guns...fur ripped off while animal is still alive...that's as far as I got...had to turn off video. Absolutely sickening what man can do to fellow creatures.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 5:42pm UTC

mostly I listened...

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Vivian P. Mar 3, 2011, 5:21pm UTC

it is time we became civilized and end animal cruelty NOW

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 5:42pm UTC

exactly

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JOHN BECK Mar 3, 2011, 5:39pm UTC

I didn't watch the video and I don't wear furs. But PETA has lost its credibility with me.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 5:53pm UTC

why is that? ... these were undercover videos in china, for example. of animals that have been executed via anal electroshock, skins pulled off whle alive, rabbits and foxes and such...

JOHN BECK Mar 3, 2011, 5:59pm UTC

I'm not disputing that. I was upset when I learned that PETA executes most pets which come under its "care", placing a tiny percentage and making little effort to place the animals.

JOHN BECK Mar 3, 2011, 6:00pm UTC

www.petakillsanimals.com

Cathi L. Mar 3, 2011, 6:05pm UTC

I didn't know that, John. I've seen the videos a long time ago and they have stayed with me ever since. I've seen them in my dreams and I've wished I never watched them. Now you are saying that the people of PETA are hypocritical? How can they get away with this? That's very upsetting to hear.

JOHN BECK Mar 3, 2011, 6:15pm UTC

That's been my reaction, Cathi.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 6:34pm UTC

i will look at the link. if they are as the Humane Societies, that is a humane thing to do for Humane Socities - as in with cats and dogs, there are some 50 million feral cats and that number cannot all be placed in homes; sad truths, but I will look into peta killing the animals.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 6:43pm UTC

well, I read that in 2009, PETA found hoes for EIGHT cats and dogs out of the many they took in. I would lie to see an explanation for that. Were the others truly unadoptable? if so, that is humane. If not, NO ReASOn.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 6:46pm UTC

i will inestigate further and ask my daughter; she is a peta member and keeps up with a lot of things; she is 20 and is the fashion student who showed this to me on FB

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 6:49pm UTC

I will ask anna vanwnkle, too.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 7:16pm UTC

Yes, everything I have read and Anna G. Vanwinkle commented just now on FB, that Peta does kill instead of finding homes for the cats and dogs in their care.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 7:22pm UTC

There is another POV, from the fur commision, claiming that films such as these might actually be staged. but consider the source

http://www.fur.org/faq/

Connie C. Mar 4, 2011, 12:21am UTC

I have to agree with John, I no longer trust or support PETA.

I will not view the video.

I know this will be controversial but my husband and I used to trap and sell furs. The animals were NEVER skinned while they were alive. We have not trapped for about 20 years but it is still done in our community.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 12:39am UTC

Individuals who are trappers are very different from the companies. That is the old style and i am sure it is 1000 times a million times better than what is done by the companies. people do it to survive, like all the trappers who settled montreal. do you kow the hudson bay blanket? a white wool blanket with colored stripes on it/ The more stripes on the blanket, the more pelts were sold. Just like the olden days where people had to kill and then eat the meat and use the fur, that was how people lived.

Karen E. Mar 5, 2011, 12:33pm UTC

I am also in agreement with John. They violated the very core of their mission. I cannot watch the video as I already know how cruely animals are murdered for the sake of fashion.
I screen anyone who is wanting to buy my lambs. They are not sold for meat and I must see that the farm is a home that is appropriate for the noble creatures that the lambs will become.

JOHN BECK Mar 5, 2011, 12:58pm UTC

It reminds me of the many months leading up to my purchase of Reykur. The breeders of Icelandics are very thorough in their evaluation of prospective homes for these wonderful dogs.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 5, 2011, 1:15pm UTC

Karen, an excellent practice and I commend you for it. My father grew up with sheep in southern utah, which were used partially for lawn cutting.

John: an excellent practice. No kill shelters screen adoptive parents, and ask them to fill out forms and such to make sure the shelter kitties or doggies will go to good homes.

I've always believed that cats and dogs and horses are pretty much like people. The level of communication we can have with them. And pigs also have the intelligence of a 3 year old.

JOHN BECK Mar 5, 2011, 1:22pm UTC

They don't want Icelandics falling into the hands of puppy mills or irresponsible folks who won't give them the kind of life they deserve, and they don't want them going into homes where they won't fit in and are shuffled to different owners.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 8, 2011, 4:28pm UTC

it is so important; i watched the oprah episodes on puppy mlls, that fall under livestock legislation and not pets. i have seen a few dogs placed badly and it was not a good thing. in this case, my friend was lied to by the ny shelter, who told her the puppy was part pitbull and part shepard. any one could see it had zero german shephard,. she had three kids. when i saw the dog, i sat quietly and waited for it to come to me. she told me that it had been very rambunctious around the kids, like yeah, duh, and that the vet told her it was all pit bull. i said she had to take it back that it won't work in homes with kids. that a pitbull has an easily agitated nature and is not a family dog. she took it back.

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Larry H. Mar 3, 2011, 5:47pm UTC

COULDN'T WATCH IT THANKS FOR SHARING THOUGH

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 5:53pm UTC

i listened mostly...

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Mariana T. Mar 3, 2011, 5:58pm UTC

I can't watch anything like this as it will stay with me forever and I can't dwell in these horrible thoughts or images - I am well aware of the tragedies that animals suffer - and I do appreciate you posting this as if it raises one person's conscience about what is going on, then it is worth it. The same goes with slaughter houses & so many other industries - It's horrible. Salud

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 6:32pm UTC

i know I only actually saw a little; i listened...

Tim Gunn likes to make sure the fashion students are aware, so they can make choices.

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Bernard C. Mar 3, 2011, 7:01pm UTC

Yikes - not my thing - Thanks for sharing :-))

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 7:05pm UTC

hard to watch, i know.

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Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 7:23pm UTC

There is another POV, that films like this are or might be staged; but consider the source

http://www.fur.org/faq/

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david f. Mar 3, 2011, 9:39pm UTC

i don't buy furs and i have no desire to watch the video

Kathryn Flynn Mar 3, 2011, 9:53pm UTC

wise. i could only listen. mostly.

Connie C. Mar 4, 2011, 12:24am UTC

Keep in mind that leather is the tanned hide of animals. I bet most of us own leather shoes, boots, gloves, or coats.

Connie C. Mar 4, 2011, 12:26am UTC

I forgot to mention that we have never purchased fur but just because we have not had a desire to do so. It has nothing to do with the animals themselves.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 12:36am UTC

connie. yes, leather is very cruel,too. i do wear leather shoes, but mostly i wear running shoes, which only have a tiny bit of leather, mostly you know, running sneaker material.

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Anne G. Mar 4, 2011, 9:04am UTC

I too have heard that PETA kills more than they place, and that was enough to make me take a step back from them. I did watch this video, and will say that not only did it make me cry, but fortunately the only thing in my stomach was coffee. I wish I would not have watched it though, and just listened because I will have those images in my head for a long time now.

I am a member of the HSUS and The Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, and see more of these types of videos than I care to. I do it because I feel I must speak for the creatures that cannot speak for themselves. I do not and will not wear fur, and limit the amount of leather I buy, but there is so much more that needs to be done. This is just a small part of what generates animal cruelty for the almighty dollar.
Every time I see a snobby elitist with her D & B or Gucci handbag, or Prada shoes I want to sit her in front of these videos and make her watch for hours. "Now, is your purse worth that?"

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 11:26am UTC

so very true, anne. And natural fabrics and synthethic fabrics, my daughter tells me have a lot of issues. cotton workers are treated horribly, and there are so mamy chemicals in everything we wear. formaldehyde is sprayed on every single item of clothing that gets shipped to stores, which is everything.

and my daughter tells me the wool shearing causes a lot of blood and infection and that silk worms have been so inbred for centuries they can no longer fly

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Dennis Gilman Mar 4, 2011, 10:03am UTC

I won't watch the video. I already know all that from watching other videos and could not bear seeing that level of cruelty again. Fake fur looks really good, is cheaper and keeps me warm. I do not need to impress anyone by showing off what I can afford and I certainly will not reward anyone for practicing such cruelty.

If only the fashion industry could get rat and mouse fur to be in fashion; we would kill two birds with one stone :-D)

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 11:14am UTC

easy~ round up all the stray cats and put them to work - yes ``~ you have a great, great idea, dennis `

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Franklin Newman Mar 4, 2011, 11:52am UTC

Oh, how horrible.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 12:45pm UTC

yes

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Angela A. Mar 4, 2011, 1:43pm UTC

I don't have money to buy fur. Even if I did, I wouldn't. Only because I don't buy clothes, or coats to look good, or impress others. I wear it for comfort.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 2:04pm UTC

good reasons.

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Kay M Mar 4, 2011, 2:58pm UTC

Senseless cruelty. I'll never wear fur.

Kathryn Flynn Mar 4, 2011, 4:30pm UTC

good for you.

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Linda T. Mar 4, 2011, 6:48pm UTC

I will pass on watching the video. I am aware of the atrocities that occur in the fur industry as well as those that occur in textile industries. I am allergic to fur as well as to wool. Even without those allergies fur would not be my choice of fashionable wear. When I was a little girl, before we were aware of my allergies someone gave me a rabbit fur coat. It was beautiful, soft and warm but I refused to wear it because I felt like I was wearing someone's pet.