Caught this blurb on FUXnation-
"An Alabama legislator said it's time to "empty the clip" when addressing illegal immigration, but he says he wasn't advocating violence.
Others found his remarks frightening after a deadly Arizona rampage.
Sen. Scott Beason said Tuesday he used the phrase in a weekend speech to the Cullman County Republican Club, but not in the sense of firing all the ammunition in a weapon."
The tone was one of disbelief that anyone would be offended by the remarks. I'm not sure how the remarks can be taken not to be encouraging violence, especially against the Hispanic population. There were two deadly rampages in Arizona recently and one of them didn't get much coverage. Perhaps it was because the attack was against an Hispanic family and resulted in the deaths of a father and his 9 year old daughter who was shot in the head after begging for her life?
How are these remarks not inciting violence when FUXnation followers leave the following comments:
RELOAD! Then empty the clip again.
and
Actually.........well placed land mines would be a better bang for the buck!
What is it the GOPBaggers don't understand?
http://nation.foxnews.com/civility/2011/02/08/alabama-republican-says-empty-clip-democrats-outraged
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I go Pogo!
Or would you rather have Sarah?
Pass on the Sarah. Daily throwing up doesn't suit me.
And then they try to say everyone "doesn't get it." Maybe I don't "get it" because I'm not retarded.
(help me out here, I have wracked my brain but cannot think of any other meaning.)
The idea that saying those words would themselves set in motion someone shooting people is kinda creepy funny to me. Like it was a hypnotic trance sorta deal, or people would think he was giving them permission to start firing away. Such fanciful imaginations we have ; )
John, as usual, you don't know what you're talking about. You're just another excuse maker like the rest of the GOPbaggers.
President Obama once said, "If they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun". Was he advocating violence? Hardly! But there was a lot of hooplah about it, especially after Tucson.
If Palin can be "blamed" for those shootings, Obama could too. Agree or disagree??
I'm a lifelong registered Democrat, and this is just plain silly to me. The absence of any context surely means the context would not support the notion that he was speaking in any suggestive way about shooting folks, or it would not be missing . . .
Sure, there is such a thing as suggestive language and inciting belligerence with clever wording that allows for deniability, but this? An isolated phrase we all know is used fairly commonly outside literal references to weaponry? It's just a rhetorical political "gotcha" piece I say, or it would be presented in context. A cheap shot . . . so to speak ; )
Personally, I think a lot of them do sit in front of Faux Noise Entertainment shows, closely watching the beckerhead--eyes glazed over--and I CAN visualize them chanting...just so they can memorize the sound bites.
Bunch of hefty white seniors, in their lazyboy recliners, chanting and humming....,
THAT IS kinda creepy--and it just might happen in living rooms all over the country.
As a group, they are constantly reaching out to help others. They are SO christianly altruistic, humane, selfless, and philanthropic. Yup! That MUST be what he meant.
Thank you for supplying him with an alternative translation for what he really said, and what he really meant when he said it. We were struggling with this one--and you stepped right up to the plate---errrr, land mine.
have a good day
Is it really so difficult to see, taking into consideration the context, the difference between language that is really used metaphorically and intermittently and language that is really used literally and repetitively?
Personally, I use the word "target" a lot -- as in targeting an audience to receive a verbal message. But, clearly, prefacing that with Lock n' Load changes the message.
Once this game of connect the lingo dots begins, even a remark like saying those symbols were surveyor sights, becomes a suspicious thing . . . and the beat goes on and on and on . .
(It's your imagination, silly ; )
And you're so egotistical, that you actually believe others need to "own up" to things you simply had pop into your head.
When the reason what someone says is not "thoughtful", hinges on something you imagine other people were thinking . . I take that as a compliment, O bothered one ; )
Your responses aren't reasonable.
Well, the man said it was not about weaponry . . and someone affiliated with Ms. Pallin mentioned those were actually surveyor symbols . . And, you figure using the term "bullseye" when speaking in reference to a chart depicting important political races, is just as innocent as she claims . . ?
Or are you thinking these folks are hiding what they really thought about, something kinda violent, and/or deceitful?
First Palin said they were "'bullseye' icons used 2 target" certain seats, then after the attempted Giffords assassination, her spokesperson said they were surveyor symbols.
I think these peoples' comments are deceitful. I haven't got a clue about "what they really thought about", and I haven't claimed that I did.
I ain't askin' you, I KNOW people use that phrase to mean go all out, give 'em everything you've got, use all your assets, and so on. Without seeing the context, I have no way of knowing if there was even a remote chance he could be rationally construed as advocating violence of any kind.
You are essentially calling for the abandonment of terms used in combat, under any circumstances or in any sense, by any person in the eye of the public. And . . OH MY GOD!!! Those Target stores might just account for thousands of gun incidents a year!! I mean great big bullseyes, AND the CLEAR implications of 'target' !!
(Start a campaign right away, frootloop ; )
I've expressed disappointment in people who've chosen to be dishonest and deceitful rather than simply tell the truth. I'm not sure why you have such a problem with that, and honestly, I don't really care. Your responses aren't reasonable, John.
Everyone knows that the phrase "relates" to firearms. So do all sorts of things people say, and all sorts of things people say relate to flowers too . . but that don't mean people are mechanically led to plant flowers when people say someone came up smelling like a rose. Reality don't work that way.
The reality is that I didn't say that Beacon's words led anybody to do anything. The reality is that I didn't say that Beacon was advocating violence. The reality is that I said that Beacon and Palin should own up to their own words instead of trying to be dishonest and deceitful.
Apparently things are somewhat different in your reality. Have fun with that.
And I know people use the phrase, "I'll pray for you," when they really mean f*ck you for catching me without an argument, and so on.
And I know that people use the phrase, "Bless her heart," when they really mean they think she is a pathetic loser but think someone might actually believe they are nice for saying nice words, and so on.
And I know that people will argue ridiculous non-points just to cause a stir.
Everything.
Of course if he'd said "Empty the magazine." I imagine there'd be the same foul smelling cloud of obfuscation.
When Internet Exploder was new Bill Gates spent considerable time promoting it, traveling all over the country. His mother, an expensive corporate lawyer (no joke,) was asked if she'd seen her son recently. She allowed as she hadn't and wasn't sure where he was. "I imagine he's plugging his browser." The computer trade magazines had fun with that.
"Wind the frog" - can't remember that phrase in "Toy Story," but I always thought that little group was on the kinky side.