This is in response to the post, Jenny McCarthy’s Body Count where Jenny McCarthy is being compared to a terrorist due to the fact that when her child was diagnosed with autism she believed that vaccines may have contributed to her son’s autism.
From CNN :
“Actress Jenny McCarthy believes that vaccines could have contributed to her son's autism. In light of the recent Hannah Poling decision, in which the federal court conceded that vaccines could have contributed to her autism, we think the tide is finally turning in the direction of parents like us who have been shouting concerns from our rooftops for years.â€
“A new article in Timemagazine — which Jenny was interviewed for — suggests Evan suffers from Landau-Kleffner syndrome, “a rare childhood neurological disorder that can also result in speech impairment and possible long-term neurological damage.â€
She does not advocate doing away with vaccines but would like to see more research done on them. I would hardly call a caring mother a terrorist.
Regarding measles vaccine:
I presented this information from JAMA and so far at the time of this writing no one has responded.
“Investigation of 37 cases of measles in an Alabama elementary school revealed that 25 patients (68%) had been vaccinated, suggesting measles vaccine failure.â€
There goes the theory of the unvaccinated spreading disease. My question is, why are babies (who already have immunity from their mothers) being vaccinated at such an early age.
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Too many are buying into the propaganda and fear coming from mainstream media. We are coerced into a particular agenda for fear of our children being harmed when if fact it is hurting them more due to the lack of research.
"Researchers at the University of Rochester School of Medicine recently published a review of what is currently known about mercury toxicity. Among the highlights:
"Mercury vapour, methyl mercury and ethyl mercury all target the central nervous system and mercury vapour and ethyl mercury also target the kidneys. Inorganic (metallic) mercury primarily targets the kidneys and stomach."
They go on to say that these fillings may cause or worsen "ALS, Alzheimer's disease, multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson's disease."
Amalgam fillings are classified as hazardous materials so why are they in our mouths?
http://www.yourhealthbase.com/amalgams.html
I have so many dental horror stories that I don't want to even start on it but I will tell you that I went to a holistic dentist because I wanted to replace my amalgam fillings. He not only tried to talk me out of replacing the amalgam fillings but crowned a molar of mine which then abscessed. Then he said, "I don't do root canals."
This is the epitomy of corporate greed and deception parading as a holistic and doing quite the opposite.
#1 I didn't need the crown, I trusted him.
#2 It was afterwards that he tried to talk me out of replacing the fillings.
#3 He placed a porcelain crown on a molar which not only abscessed but has broken into pieces.
The list goes on and on, I will spare you the sordid details.
unattached to meanings
Concern to look beyond
what "everybody knows"
a terrible threat -- to whom?
This Nation just loves to hate, what would these people do without an "Enemy"?
A think positive Saturday. Life is worth more Smiles!
People who put themselves above compliance to laws, are terrorists to those who suffer being put upon by those bad actions and choices. There are a few drivers, baby carriage pushers, shopping cart navigators, and pedestrians I would not mind seeing "Thrown the the ground" for their uncivilized behavior. Pity, there is no TSA for those evil-doers, and then there are the everyday self-righteous, brow beaters who want to share the world with no one who does NOT agree with them. TSA, please help!
The TSA is new and could certainly use some adjustments. If you think that the scanners are safe then I will say you are unaware of the radiation factor this presents. (which means that you believe them when they say they are safe) Are you saying it is uncivilized behavior to refuse to be radiated or groped? How many US citizens do you think are terrorists? I have faith in the American people and do not believe they want to terrorize anyone and they also do not want war.
The fact is that things were going pretty well until a trouble maker stuffed a bomb in his BVDs which, by the way, would not have shown up on the scanner anyway.
Terror is being created in the minds of the people and just as the statement equating Jenny McCarthy with terrorism, we are being fed a pile of manure.
Whether, or not TSA is new, or old they are doing their jobs, those who do not like it should travel by Train, bus, or car. Enough, with the generation of the over confident and assumed over-privileged! Throw everyone of them to the ground and then radiate them till they resemble that microwave meal they live on.
I cannot support this senseless knee-jerk argument any longer.
I just want to say, (at the risk of getting my head bitten off) that in a democracy people are entitled to decide for themselves if they would like to be "radiated." The plan is not to be limited to the airports, so after they make it to the bus and train stations will they stop you on the turnpike with their portable scanners? You don't have to answer J, it is not my intention to irritate you and you certainly do not have to support any argument.
Condescending people who do exactly as they are told are called mindless sheeple. So that is the choice - black and white - one or the other - you either join the herd or are labeled a terrorist.
Wave your flag, and quote the Constitution, life teaches when, where and how to rebel! Fighting TSA is NOT it! By the tone of this thread may disagreement with the topic is being attacked, without concrete facts and, or knowledge, this is just pitiful. Yet again, I am conversing with the unworthy!
...in a democracy people are entitled to decide for themselves...
In actuality, those who are in a democracy have no more capacity than any other government system to "decide for themselves" whether or not to obey the law (whatever it might be). They have a bit more input in to what those laws should be, and always have the option to leave if they disagree sufficiently, but obeying the law is the fundamental building block of civilization.
By the tone of this thread may disagreement with the topic is being attacked, without concrete facts and, or knowledge, this is just pitiful. Yet again, I am conversing with the unworthy!"
J, you are the one creating the 'tone.' You speak of Marilyn and myself as law breaking criminals who are unworthy of your presence. It sounds like displaced anger to me, did I trigger something off here.
Well, here is a video for you to see. My links do not work properly so here is the url:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCmmaCqZhg
Do you believe the action taken against the lady in the video is warranted? The same thing happened to Claire Hirschkind at Austin airport. When I said that I believe adjustments should be made it was in reference to what you see in the video. That type of violence is totally unnecessary. I do not know why the woman did not want her bag searched but I am sure she did not anticipate what took place.
I have presented concrete facts which you have ignored in the JAMA article and we went off on a tangent with the TSA. What does the title of this post say, did you have an answer as to why babies are being vaccinated when they already have their mother's immunity?
Ian, I am also surprised that you call these "words of wisdom." So your solution is to leave. It seems that you and J do have something in common, she always wants to leave the discussion.
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–noun, plural -cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
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It looks like diplomacy is a lost art. Ian, for a man of the cloth you amaze me.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031073_science_tyranny.html
Talking to your self and those who agree with you may be the comfortable way to live yet, it lacks the opportunity to develop a broad vision of life and its realities.
I cannot be insulted by those I cannot respect! ___ I truly appreciate you taking the time! A think positive Sunday. Life is worth more Smiles!
This post is in response to Jenny McCarthy's Body Count which is where you should be instead of attempting to destroy the reputations of people here. People like you have driven away many good people from Gather. Is big pharma paying you big bucks for this? You have certainly demonstrated how much you care about humanity.
Go back to taking pictures of the moon - people are waking up.
There is something wrong with this picture. Babies are being given vaccines at such a young age when they still have natural immunity from the mother rendering the vaccine useless. This is tampering with the natural immune system right from the beginning. It is only common sense that something can go wrong.
Will the baby retain that immunity after it is weaned? I think not.
Pure and simple - vaccines are temporary and there is nothing being done to provide safer adjutives. The average person doesn't know what is being injected into them and trusts the physicians judgment.
I am pleased that you are following the evidence in this case. I was worried. We must (if we have the brains of a chicken or better) follow the evidence and gather the appropriate evidence to decide what's best to do. I fear that the drug companies and the medical community have other motives. But vaccination, as a preventive treatment, is a good thing all in all.
It would be a wonderful thing if vaccines were what they should be but this is not a perfect world. Being an anti-vaxxer is a choice for one's self, not to be infringed on others. The hope is that people will realize that one is an anti-vaxxer for a very good reason - they are not getting the diseases.
The population is so filled with fear and propaganda about this that they suffer the consequences.
Profit-driven mandatory vaccinations
Profit-driven mandatory vaccinations
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2947.shtml
Re: Flu Vaccines:
"How will all this unfold? The most likely scenario involves a deadly, fast-spreading viral pandemic that turns out to be especially deadly only to those who have been vaccinated. (Vaccines actually weaken the immune response to future epidemics.)"
Flu Vaccines
We really need further research on the issue. I am especially interested in how having vaccinations reduces ones resistance to disease. You see, I know that the imune system is exposed to many organisms and that doesn't seem to reduce its effectiveness. Vaccinations merely expose the immune system to disease orgnaisms.
I definitely see a problem with the carriers of the vaccines building up in the body further weakening the immune system to more serious diseases than were vaccinated for in the first place. A certain percentage of the viruses will lie dormant and be released at a time when the body cannot fight them. I shudder to think what is being injected into people.
IMOHO I do not believe the vaccines that are being used reduce one's resistance to disease but instead create more disease at some point and time.
The unvaccinated are healthier and the vaccinated keep blaming them for their sicknesses.
The truth is that your natural immune system is all you need to be healthy, by injecting viruses and metals into your body you are playing with disaster.
The same with cancer treatment. You have to build the immune system not destroy it with chemo and radiation. It amazes me at the number of people that survive those treatments, which proves how strong the human immune system actually is.
Here is yet another example of what vaccines can do. I just saw this today.
" It looks like polio is spreading...due to polio oral vaccine."
Polio Vax Produces Polio Outbreak
That is proof that what does happen? That a virus can lie dormant? That a disease can present itself in a new form?
So how is it that public health, with the use of vaccines, has resulted in so much lower death and illness rates from disease and particularly from those diseases for which we have vaccines? German measles used to cause many birth defects each year. Such defects are far less likely today because far fewer pregnant women are exposed to German measles.
Our natural immune system did not prevent very high death rates among children 150 years ago. And in those days, babies were far more likely to be breast fed than today.
People treated for cancer have longer life expectancies than those who contract cancer and are not treated (for most cancers).
Polio is not now nor has ever been a serious public health threat. Were it not for FDR, most people would never have heard of it.
Sometimes doctors mess up. (Thousands of times per year with fatal results in the U.S.)
My information is coming from my studies of demography. (All but PhD.) Mortality and morbidity statics, you know.
How do you know that one disease has not been traded for another - you don't. Are they giving you the statistics of the number of vaccinated people who have died of those diseases vs. the ones who were not? -No.
Are you getting the statistics of the people who were vaccinated and died of the disease they were vaccinated for - No People have died from the flu after being vaccinated for it. Parents are worried because their children have asthma and rush out to vaccinate them. What caused the asthma in the first place and why are there so many more cases now than ever. When you were a child, how many of your friends were taking drugs because they could not concentrate?
"The American Cancer Society estimated that over 1.5 million new cases of cancer would be diagnosed in 2010." (from my previous post Do You Have Cancer Insurance?)
The truth is that cancers can go away by improving the immune system. You are not getting the statistics of the people who have survived longer than the ones treated, you are getting the statistics of people who made no effort to improve their health who died of the disease. I remember reading a book by the late Dr. Atkins of the famous Atkins Diet. He said that all cancers go into remission and in order to improve one’s health you must build up the immune system. When you are treated for cancer they say this is great you are in remission, later the cancer returns and has spread to the liver. Two people - Susanne Sommers and Farah Fawcett, who is still here?
It was Dr. Atkins dream that the medical society would work together with the holistics.
They stopped giving the live polio virus because people were getting polio from the vaccine exactly as in the link I posted. They knew it so why did they give that vaccine to the people in Haiti. Well, I guess for the same reasons we put toxic metals in our bodies, poison in our water and expose ourselves to far too much radiation. We are just one big experiment.
I am always seeing articles online about children in India and Africa and other parts of the world where they are dying from vaccines. You don’t see it on the 11 o’clock news and as long as people are satisfied with the way things are they will not listen to anyone who tells them to question the world around them. They will be like the birds in the sky who fell to the ground and say - what happened.
There are lots of things I blame the medical community and drug industries for. They do kill, through a variety of means, tens of thousands of people who need not have died. But that does not mean that vaccinations are, by their very nature, bad public health.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031073_science_tyranny.html
I'll have to be patted down too, because with my chronic illnesses (and, therefore, compromised immune system) I'd be insane to subject myself to radiation that has not been proved to be safe even for healthy people. But I wonder how they'll like me insisting on them using MY gloves - which I will know are clean out of the box and are NOT latex (since I'm totally intolerant of Latex).
The problem is that the average person does not know what they are exposing themselves to. First they said cigarette smoking was 'good' for you, then they passed out antibiotics like candy. Now there are more sources of radiation and electromagnetic fields that we are exposed to.
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The average person does not read JAMA and is unaware of the information in the article. I wonder how many of them would wish to allow vaccination of their infants at such an early age if they knew.
Look past the pseudoscience and understand the politics.
“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels (Head of Propaganda in Hitler's regime)
It is not about protecting children from disease, it is about controlling the population.
"The world today has 6.8 billion people... that's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."
Billl Gates
Bill Gates Video
There is definitely an agenda at work.
A woman is being called a terrorist for taking care of her child. Basically I have been called a terrorist for telling people to think about what they are doing.
It is time that people did their own research.
My family's pediatrician is wondering the same thing also. He delays vaccination until after weaning.