This is the portion of the full interview that interested me. I don't think I need to say too much more about it. What do you think?
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Your friend and colleague, Michele Bachmann, will be coming to your state, Iowa, tomorrow.Â Youâ€˜re in Washington now.
Are you going to fly off to Iowa tomorrow to be on the ground to greet her when she gets there?
KING:Â You know, I was just asked that question a little bit ago, and weâ€˜re still working on the logistics.Â So, I donâ€˜t know that yet.Â In fact, as I was sitting here, I was trying to work it through.Â So, weâ€˜ll see how that works tomorrow.Â Iâ€˜m trying to find a way.Â Sheâ€˜s a very close friend.
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Are you hoping sheâ€˜s going to Iowa to explore running for president, in that she will run for president?Â And does she, among the possible candidates, represent your views more accurately than any of the others?
KING:Â Well, she representsâ€”I agree with the views that Michele Bachmann represents.Â And as I say, sheâ€˜s a very close friend.
Sheâ€˜s very smart.Â Sheâ€˜s a very quick study.Â Sheâ€˜s a wonderful messenger.Â Her instincts are good.
And Iâ€˜m looking forward to the debate in the presidential race.Â And itâ€˜s too early for me at this point to make a decision, but I am encouraging the candidates to come to Iowa, engage in the debate, and I want to be helpful in helping to provide access to the activists in the state so that we can have a very intense, engaging, policy-focused caucus process in Iowa as we build up to the New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada primaries.
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Congressman King, anything, anything you can do to get her to run will be welcomed by us in the media.Â We would love to have her as a presidential campaignâ€”candidate to cover.
I mentioned Congresswoman McCarthyâ€˜s bill to restore the ban that used to exist on these high-capacity ammo clips, the kind that was used in Tucson.Â I want to show you what Dick Cheney had to say about that.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
RICHARD CHENEY, FORMER U.S. VICE PRESIDENT:Â Whether or not thereâ€˜s some measure there in terms of limiting the size of the magazine that you can buy to go with semiautomatic weapon, weâ€˜ve had that in place before.Â You know, maybe itâ€˜s appropriate to reestablish that kind of thing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Do you agree with Dickâ€”do you agree with Dick Cheney that maybe itâ€˜s appropriate to reestablish that ban?
KING:Â You know, Iâ€˜m reluctant to move down that path that would put more limitations on the Second Amendment.Â If we pass a ban on a clip, they will solder two together and have it anyway.Â I think the Second Amendment is a very important principle and I will stand and defend that.
I justâ€”I regret the tragedy in Tucson, it cast a pall over the entire Congress.Â You could feel it yesterday and today on the floor.Â But Iâ€˜m not willing to go down the path to making an adjustment to a Second Amendment right.Â Weâ€˜ve been through that fight before.
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â But we had it and it worked.Â We had it for 10 years and it didnâ€˜t do any damage to people who wanted to buy weapons in this country.Â What would be wrong with going back to the way we did it for 10 years?
KING:Â Well, the assault weapons ban, if thatâ€˜s the reference, thereâ€˜s
never been a way to define what an assault weapon is.Â It always defines
what it looks like.Â But, for example, I look around my neighborhood and
the most popular coyote hunting rifle would be defined as an assault weapon
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Weâ€˜re not talking about assault rifles.Â Weâ€˜re talking about these particular clips, thatâ€˜s allâ€”
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â -- Congresswoman McCarthy talks aboutâ€”these clips that allow youâ€”youâ€˜d only be allowed to shoot 10 bullets instead of the 31 bullets that were fired at Congresswoman Giffords.
KING:Â Iâ€˜m not willing to go down that path.Â If we reduce it to 10, then thereâ€˜s an argument for nine or 11.Â Itâ€˜s the person that carries the gun that commits the assault.Â Theyâ€˜re the ones that should be punished at the assault with that weapon to the maximum extent of the law.
And I will be aggressive on that.Â I think there are many that will be aggressive on law enforcement.Â Punish the person that commits the crime.Â Itâ€˜s not the gun and itâ€˜s not the clip.Â Itâ€˜s the person that commits the crime.
If we focus on that, there will be a deterrent effect.Â And I know itâ€˜s not an effect for a crazy person, but theyâ€˜ll find another way.Â They always have and there are always be ways that people are creating and committing this kind destruction if there are any rationale individual like we saw in Tucson.
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Congressman King, in 2007, you were very impatient with the Republican strategy to win back the House.Â You thought they should be more aggressive in winning backseats from Democrats.Â And you said, quote, â€œThereâ€˜s got to be blood on the floor,â€ end quote.
Now that there is Gabby Giffordsâ€˜ blood on the floor, do you regret using that kind of language?
KING:Â Thereâ€˜s really no connection or relevance there.Â Thatâ€˜s an expression thatâ€˜s commonly used, and we needed to be more impressive.Â And Iâ€˜ve been more aggressive.Â I followed through on the things that I promised that I would do.Â And that aggressiveness has been helpful in winning back the majority.
But I think you can see, there is a tone in the dialogue that takes place.Â Republicans have had a toned down dialogue in our debate.Â But I think if you listen to the other side, they have invoked the tragedy in Tucson and used it to try to oppose the repeal of Obamacare.Â We saw what Congressman Cohen of Tennessee had to say about Nazis and Goebbels.Â So, I think you can see where this is going with the intensity.
And Iâ€˜d say another thingâ€”this is just being straight up with this.Â Thereâ€˜s a characteristic that takes place.Â When you donâ€˜t have the votes, youâ€˜ve got toâ€”youâ€˜ve got to turn up the pressure.Â And when you do have the votes, you can turn down the pressure.Â Thatâ€˜s going to be the difference.
The majority can have a lower tone, the minority will turn the tone up, and weâ€˜ve seen that in this debate for repeal of Obamacare, Lawrence.
And I will tell you that the Congress that was run under the guidance of Nancy Pelosi, the process was shut down.Â And it was run out of the speakerâ€˜s office and the rules committee.
Weâ€˜re going to open this up.Â Thereâ€˜s going to be open rules.Â Thereâ€˜s going to be real debate.Â And youâ€˜ve seen that.Â Seven hours of debate on the repeal of Obamacare.
Thereâ€˜ll be open rules on appropriations bills, other open rules on bills coming to the floor.Â More debate.
Itâ€˜s about winning the debate with the American people and thatâ€˜s what we need to do.Â Once thatâ€˜s won, then you can have a vote like we had yesterday and today.Â That debateâ€˜s been won, thatâ€˜s why those votes were up on the board.Â Eighty-seven new freshman Republicans in the House of Representativesâ€”fresh-faced and ready to claim our country back and go back to constitutional principles and fiscal responsibility.
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â The kinder, gentler Congressman Steve King, thank you very much for joining us tonight, Congressman.Â I hope you can come back to we can discuss immigration which I know is something very important to you and to me, and on which we could not differ more sharply.Â But I would love to have another discussion with you about that.
KING:Â I look forward to that.Â Thank you, Lawrence.
Oâ€˜DONNELL:Â Thank you, Congressman.