by EM JAY (Gather Director of Chaos & Uprisings) W.
Member since:
November 7, 2006

The Teabaggers' Defining Moment - I Kicked a Girl

October 29, 2010 02:14 PM UTC
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Recently a young woman suffered injuries while standing up for what she believes in. Lauren Valle did not have to go to the Rand Paul rally, but she felt it was important enough to try to get her message heard over the lies of the Teabaggers and Republitards. She was trying to get into position for a photo op when she was knocked down by men, physically bigger than she, and purposely stepped on.

The video recording of what happened to her shows more than her hoped-for photo could have when it comes to defining the Teabaggers' ethics and morals. A photo would have opened up a dialog as to just how owned by corporations, like the Koch brothers, the Republican candidates are. Instead, we've seen just how barbaric this Teabagger Party operates.

It also brings me to ask the rightwing: What cause would you risk your safety for?

Would you take a kick, a punch, or a tackle for any of YOUR candidates? Do you love the wealthy and their corporate holdings so much that you'd go to jail so they can continue business as usual. You know their business- shipping jobs overseas so Americans will work for next to nothing, polluting and raping the world's resources because they think they live above the mess, and making sure they have money in their pockets before you get the health care you need.

The Teabag Movement has been exposed in a way its followers should be able to understand. The stupid shit that falls out of the mouths of their candidates is lost on them. Defaced photos of President Obama and our First Lady, even ones that depict lynching, are high comedy to these folks. Now we have a moving picture that shows the hositlity and brutality this group believes is their right to use to get their way.

Do we even want to guess what may have happened to Ms. Valle had she been born a black woman taking up the MoveOn cause?

And please tell me, especially those of you who constantly feel the need to remind us someone died for your sins, what cause, candidate, or movement would you risk your physical shell for?

Comments: 149

Lori F. Oct 29, 2010, 2:26pm UTC
You know Em I was just thinking about this incident and the people on Gather and RL who are condoning the actions of the man that injured this woman.

I dont care what side you are on we as a country needt to stop and take a deep breath. When we are not only allowing violence between different political factions but justifying it then we are headed for real problems.

We are losing our humanity and without that you might as well turn off all the lights because it doesnt matter who gets elected to what position our country wont be worth a plugged nickle.

When I think about had this guy instead of smashing her head in would have pulled down his pants and raped her ya know cause she is a liberal and that translates into a dike and he was trying to convert her...would these same people be just as lienent and cheered on his actions? Unfortunatley I think they would have.
libramoon .. Oct 29, 2010, 2:29pm UTC
When I think about had this guy instead of smashing her head in would have pulled down his pants and raped her ya know cause she is a liberal and that translates into a dike and he was trying to convert her...would these same people be just as lienent and cheered on his actions? Unfortunatley I think they would have.

They wouldn't need such fancy rationale. Rape has been considered an appropriate act of war for millennia.
Lori F. Oct 29, 2010, 2:32pm UTC
*sigh* Libra you are right.
I must admit, I was amazed when I heard that a-hole say he wanted an apology from the woman he assaulted. It's that whole "she got raped because she was wearing the wrong clothes" mentality, and since I haven't lived around it for years, I tend to forget it's still out there.
Marilyn (PaintsOnSlate) S. Oct 29, 2010, 2:39pm UTC
While visiting my brother, he started telling me all kinds of crap about my President. I ask him where he heard all that crap, on Fox News? His answer was yes. I had him write down the top five complaints he had and it took me less than 5 minutes to find the truth to all five lies put out by Fox. He didn't believe me because he doesn't believe a TV station can lie...
Thanks for the link, Libramoon. Interesting article and it seems to me the author is trying to reclaim the label "conservative" for its original meaning.
libramoon .. Oct 29, 2010, 2:47pm UTC
When I was young there was a general "truism" (understood to be the joke it truly is): "It's only real if it's on tv."
libramoon .. Oct 29, 2010, 2:51pm UTC
I am so tired, exhausted, over and done with these "parties" and their labels. Those old tried and true conservatives that really had important messages about, you know, conserving what is best in our country, keeping a tight reign on common resources, thinking clearly and deeply about what is truly of value, could not even get a fair hearing on Fox or from those rabidly proclaiming their allegiance to ignorance. There is nowhere for a real conservative to go.
I watched a lot of cartoons, so tv was the most unreal thing to me. That belief was re-enforced when high school was not as cool as "Room 222," and I did not find an apartment or a job like Mary Tyler Moore had.

I can remember when those who identified truly by the conservative label were not people to be afraid of. They were just "uptight."
Marilyn (PaintsOnSlate) S. Oct 29, 2010, 2:29pm UTC
The Tea Party Liar stated she lunged at Rand Paul so of course she needed to be stomped on. I'm surprised they can spell well enough to publish an on line paper - but then Microsoft will check their spelling for them. What a bunch of thugs they are.
All those big men around and none of them could simply restrain a woman, who doesn't appear to be of large size? They couldn't form a human shield to protect their man from the truth that he's a corporate whore?
Margaret Garside Oct 29, 2010, 4:29pm UTC
All they had to do was take her by the arms and escort her from the building with a firm 'don't come back!'.

Assault crosses a line. What IS wrong with people who have no problem with what happened? Don't they have sisters or daughters?
Don't they even have mothers?

I don't believe they had any right to touch her in anyway. I'm wondering why these folks didn't just create a human shield to protect their candidate from one small woman. I'm not very tall and I can say that in a crowd situation, it's very easy to block someone's view and access to what they're trying to see.

(And I'm talking to you 6 ft. + bastard who wouldn't let me stand in front of him to see Rob Zombie's show.)
Sandy Knauer Oct 30, 2010, 7:24pm UTC
They really did not have any right to "escort" her any where. She had as much right to be where she was as they did. And the window of that car was rolled up, so the claims of spitting, lunging into the car, shoving her sign inside the car - more of their lies. You can see on THEIR video that the window is up.

John Doyle Oct 29, 2010, 2:31pm UTC
The Tea Party claims to a a movement without a leader. A movement without a leader is a mob
Lori F. Oct 29, 2010, 2:32pm UTC
John excellent point.
Isn't that their mentality? Ditto what Lori said.
High Five John!
Marilyn (PaintsOnSlate) S. Oct 29, 2010, 8:17pm UTC
Amen!
Karl Leuba Oct 31, 2010, 12:22pm UTC
Right on John, AGAIN.
David W. Oct 29, 2010, 3:11pm UTC
They did not only kick her, they stepped on her head and the police did not follow up or investigate the incident. I guess anti-tea party folk are not privy to police protection and are not entitiled to the full weight of the law.
I have read a couple of accounts from each side of the event, and it seems to me the police didn't really want to be involved at all. But this isn't a case where you let the kids "fight it out."
David W. Oct 29, 2010, 3:44pm UTC
Wow! I never looked at it that way. I would have done the very same thing given the circumstances. There is nothing like the wiff of boot leather in the morning.
I don't care what side of what issue you're on, VIOLENCE is NOT OK! People who EXCUSE violence, especially violence against women, are just as culpable as the ones who are perpetrating it. It needs to STOP!
I've not heard anyone from the left calling for "second amendment" solutions and the like, but no, the reason we have the political process is so we don't resort to violence to govern our country.
I haven't either. The ballot box, among other non-violent means, is the place for solutions.
Much better. Especially now that the "mysterious illness" has been identified. I'll be writing a post about it very soon.
We can only hope this is a wake-up call to all those moderates and independents who were thinking about voting for these thugs.
Then I'll advise them to nut up or expect getting kicked regularly.
Michelle C. Oct 29, 2010, 4:47pm UTC
the human race is going to hell in a handbasket. who is going to put us back on the right track? the "kickers" or the "thinkers"? i hope it will be us thinkers.
As thinkers, we still have to be prepared to defend ourselves. But there is a difference between being defensive and being offensive. I find Teabaggers very offensive.
Michelle C. Oct 29, 2010, 6:47pm UTC
yes teabaggers are very offensive. they are not part of the thinking group. that's why they resort to violence & lies; they can't think for themselves. it's a cult mentality.
Karl Leuba Oct 31, 2010, 12:26pm UTC
Michelle, I think you're right but it is not a cult, it is, as John Doyle says, a mob, and no one denies that it is an Angry Mob. Lynching is generally done by angry mobs, Genocide, on the other hand, is done by those who harness that mob. And the Republicans are certainly trying to harness the Tea Party.
Michelle C. Oct 31, 2010, 2:26pm UTC
i see the point between the cult & the mob. whatever we want to call it; they need to get their sh*t together & return to the human race of the united states of america. we're putting thousands of u.s. citizens in harms way to fight the "terrorist movement" in foreign countries. we have plenty terrorist here on our soil who call themselves god fearing republican/tea party members. fight in the middle east if we must to defend our country; but what will be left to defend if we stand so divided? all of our freedoms are worthless if we can't stand as one nation looking to have a better life for each & every citizen. the divide is becoming deeper & that scares me.
I am not afraid, but concerned about the things you mention, Michelle. I'm also concerned the divide is mostly manufactured by the media. Yes, there are rightwing nut jobs out there who are wishing for the destruction of this administration, but I truly believe they are a minority that gets a lot of air time.
Michelle C. Oct 31, 2010, 4:24pm UTC
i hope you're right emjay!!!
Jim G. Oct 29, 2010, 5:13pm UTC
Give the guy a break. Supposedly he has a bad back, so he had to stomp on her instead of bending down & pounding her with his fists. He has demanded an apology from her. A woman holding a sign could be dangerous. Who knows who she might inadvertantly hit with it? Ya gotta be careful about these whackos demanding free speech if they don't agree with you. They can be dargerous. (Satire)
HAHA - I know I could do some damage with a sign at a teabagger rally...all I'd have to do is write some truth on it and it would be like garlic to a vampire.
Sandy Knauer Oct 30, 2010, 7:26pm UTC
I saw Lauren today. She had a bad neck ;'-(
Sandy Knauer Oct 31, 2010, 12:47am UTC
We were at the same Restore Sanity Party. I took her a handmade gift - if you remember the sewing project I was working on a few months ago, she got my second favorite.
Sandy, since you are the only one here who has been in the same room as Lauren, can you tell us about her physical size?
Sandy Knauer Oct 31, 2010, 3:33pm UTC
Em Jay, I'm not exactly sure. I remembered her being about the size of my daughter but I noticed yesterday that she seemed taller. Maybe I was wearing heals before, or it could be that she was wearing a tall hat yesterday, but she seemed taller than I remembered. That only means she's taller than 5'2, though. I'll find out.
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 29, 2010, 5:36pm UTC
I hope she sews

(I mean sues, ha ha ha)
I think her intention is to press charges.
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 29, 2010, 5:43pm UTC
Good!
Marilyn M. Oct 29, 2010, 6:43pm UTC
She wanted a photo op for an attack ad that MoveOn.org was going to do. She wanted to do harm to Rand, plain and simple. No, not physical harm, but harm.

She didn't have to be there? That's right. She doesn't live in KY, she lives in DC.

And the video does not show the man stomping her head. He put his foot on her shoulder and when he was asked to move it he did immediately.
Marilyn M. Oct 29, 2010, 6:44pm UTC
Meanwhile, MoveOn.org and the Dems have created a horrible ad showing this video over and over again with horrible crowd noises and they LIE about the fact that Rand Paul condones violence.
Why don't you check your facts before you post? Do you defend all men who assault women, or just the ones who assault progressive women? Did Rand Paul's people immediately step up to identify the attackers? Did you hear the woman's glasses crack when she was stepped on?

In case you haven't noticed, attack ads are all over the airwaves. MoveOn tends to use satire and parody to get their point across. If Rand Paul is such a delicate little flower that he can't deal with the muck and mire of politics, maybe he should certify himself as such and retire to a botanical garden.
Lori F. Oct 29, 2010, 7:13pm UTC
Marilyn I remember you telling me that you were in an abusive relationship for years. Should we assume that you were abused then because in some way you asked for it?
Marilyn M. Oct 29, 2010, 7:28pm UTC
No, anyone cannot see that, Kenny. You choose to see that.

They were supporters, EM JAY. Do you really think that every candidate knows every supporter they have? Seriously?
Lori is not out of bounds. Any woman who supports the actions of a men treating women in a rough physical manner to settle a difference needs some help. And if it's Marilyn, who tends to say things are wrong if happening to her, but okay if it's in support of some crank she favors, then an explanation is not uncalled for.

Now provide a link to this footage of the MoveOn guy choking someone so we know you're not making up some b.s. This is the first I've heard of it.
Elsie C. Oct 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC
So, since a move-on man went after another man, (didn't "take him down or otherwise hurt him) it's OK that Rand's supporters took a woman down and stomped on her?
And yes, it is clearly visible where he put his foot on her upper back and neck and then stomped on her.
Marilyn M. Oct 29, 2010, 11:19pm UTC
Actually, the KY Post is part of the Cincinnati Enquirer.
Lori F. Oct 30, 2010, 12:13am UTC
Lori, You are out of bounds!

Why because I am treating Marilyn the way you are treating this young lady?

You know this was not about an abusive relationship.

So are you saying that committing assault against a stranger is somehow better than doing it to someone you do know?

The woman was advancing on the candidate at was pulled down and detained.

No she wasnt she was assaulted because she disagreed with the majority of the people there.

I would not have done it that way but that is what happened, so get over it.

Yet you agree and support it so that makes you just as bad.

What about the moveon.org guy who was caught on tape choking someone who disagreed with him at a rally so why aren't you up in arms about that?

This article isnt about that incident and if that did happen I would be just as outraged. Plus why are you so willing to excuse someones criminal behavior because another person committed the same offense?

Is it ok for him to choke someone as long as he is a far lefty? Seems like you have a perverted sense of false outrage.

No I dont agree with violence of any kind unlike yourself. But the one thing I do agree with is you do have a perverted sense of outrage.
Marilyn M. Oct 30, 2010, 6:17pm UTC
I have been, Shandi.
Karl Leuba Oct 31, 2010, 12:32pm UTC
Marilyn, my hat is off to you, after exposing yourself as an advocate of violence in the interest of advancing a political agenda that is not even well defined, you continue to stand your ground. While all the world around you burns, you insist on finishing the Unfinished Symphony on your violin. Well NO power to you. I am certain now that if you gain power your immediate reaction will be to abuse it.
Sandy Knauer Oct 31, 2010, 3:28pm UTC
By Marilyn's standards, Marilyn has done grave harm to Lauren. And Marilyn does terrible harm to many people, almost daily, right here on Gather.
Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 29, 2010, 10:44pm UTC
Head stomping/kicking is the recommended remedy and treatment by the AMA for those carrying the DRD4 "liberal" gene, considered by many to be a birth defect.
Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 29, 2010, 11:01pm UTC
I knew Forrest Gump would show up.
Why are you asking Eamon how you should feel, Thomas? Unable to think for yourself?
Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 30, 2010, 12:09am UTC
Yes Thomas, you should. In this particular case we are also dealing with an extra chromosome.
Lori F. Oct 30, 2010, 12:14am UTC
Eamon you disgust me.
Lori F. Oct 30, 2010, 12:15am UTC
I just hope you and Thomas and jj dont have any daughters.
Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 30, 2010, 12:24am UTC
Just warming up for all the fun we're going to have all next week making the lib/prog's eat dung.
Lori F. Oct 30, 2010, 1:38am UTC
Lori,
You should read your buddy, Kenny's comments. He verbally wishies for my death and actually asks me to end my life. Maybe you should lecture him instead of me.

Please point this out to me Thomas. As I said I dont condone violence of any sort directed at anyone.
Woot! I got flagged!
Lori F. Oct 30, 2010, 12:15am UTC
I saw that EM..congrats.
Lori F. Oct 30, 2010, 12:16am UTC
I guess calling out rabid righties is now considered Hate Speech.
Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 30, 2010, 12:27am UTC
Wasn't me EM JAY, but you should wear the flag as a badge of honor. LOL
I know who the Flaggin' Teabagger is. Can't type his/her name, but has time to troll through Gather looking for the word "Teabagger." Flagged a piece I wrote in July for goodness sake! (And I've used the word so many times since! I am owed some serious flags!)

Shandi, part of the problem with that "she asked for it" attitude is found in Christianity. My fundie ex-mother told my ex-husband it was okay to smack me around because "sometimes she gets mouthy." Never mind he was a foot taller and a hundred pounds heavier than me. I wasn't being a submissive woman so violence against me was a-okay.

Why am I not surprised none of the baggers in attendance have totally ignored the question I posed in the article?
The first flag I received was gone before I saw it, but I wrote about the little message that was left letting me know what's up with God's own.

Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 30, 2010, 12:16am UTC
The stomper, Tim Profitt, did what he felt was necessary to protect the candidate. How was he supposed to know what these whacked out MoveOn idiots are capable of. She could have been armed. Just ask one of Robert Kennedy's children if they wish a Tim Profitt had been at the Ambassador Hotel the night their dad was killed.
Eamon W. (So be it) Oct 30, 2010, 12:43am UTC
There you go jumping to conclusions again. The point in the statement was "HOW WAS HE SUPPOSED TO KNOW.....". Can you prove the mindset of Profitt was just wanting to kick a MoveOn members ass? Actually it's pretty sad that Conway needs to have MoveOn send someone from DC to get a picture of Paul with a sign that they can use for a last minute negative ad blitz. How about campaigning on the Dem's accomplishments during the 111th Congress?
Let's also note that I have it from a person who met Lauren Valle that she is a small person and in her early twenties. A short internet search shows she has been involved as an activist with Greenpeace and was arrested during a protest during the BP oil careless disaster in May. People are trying to label her a "professional protester" but I know people who have been standing up at rallies for what they believe (and getting arrested for it) a lot longer than she and they aren't considered "professional protesters."

That she is has been at other rallies and has been photographed at them makes her identifiable. That happens at rallies - you run into people you met at previous gatherings. Here's a question- Should the hired hands on a candidates' campaign be looking through photos to identify people from groups, especially when the group has no reputation for violence?
Truth to a teabagger is like garlic to a vampire.
Kathy W. Oct 31, 2010, 3:58pm UTC
Thomas? Does it count if I prayed Dumbya and Dick would go hunting together? Does that count? It's kinda like a death wish...I didn't say I wanted to shoot anybody. But, hmmmm.....you know.....Dick's friends just won't hunt with him anymore.

But, I don't think it really counts. Not really.
Wilka
"whacked out MoveOn idiots''

You mean she had been beaten before at Tea Party events? Is it standard procedure there? I'm referring to the whacking reference.
I believe it's a relatively new tradition at their rallies, Nippy. We'll have to watch to see if Tim Profitt gets a boot endorsement deal to see if it continues.
Kasey Klein Oct 30, 2010, 5:53am UTC
I feel the thugs certainly had not only the right, but the responsibility to keep protesters out of Paul's face -- that's what they're hired to do.

However, 'reasonable force' needs to be considered.

I feel it's obvious from watching the tape, the foot to the shoulder and kick to the head after the woman was being held down by others was delivered vindictively. He gives one 'push' before he walks off, as if to say "Take that!"

I think more shocking than the assault is the lack of response from Paul and the republicans, denouncing the use of unreasonable force against people we disagree with.

This is about bullying. Children can see this man assault the woman and this his behavior is OK. Children can then feel entitled to bully other children who they deem 'different.'

Just from the tape, I'd think in a civil society, the man would be arrested for assault. If two police were holding down a woman and another cop came over and kicked her in the head on tape, I'd sure there'd be some sort of investigation at least.
Thank you, Kasey for pointing out a fact that was overlooked. The man who delivered the boot was a coordinator for the Paul campaign, not a weekend volunteer. I don't know if he was paid or not, but coordinators are not folks who just show up for rallies or canvassing.

And yes, this is bullying. Even if Tim Profitt had been born Timbalina Profitt and was 98 lbs. soaking wet, when you kick a person who is being restrained and has no way to defend him/herself, that is chickenshit bullying at it's finest.
Marilyn M. Oct 30, 2010, 6:21pm UTC
Actually, Rand Paul made an immediate response condemning violence.
Sandy Knauer Oct 30, 2010, 7:31pm UTC
Kasey, this was a political debate, open to the public. There were police officers there to handle crowd control. The only feasible reason for Rand Paul to have hired goons to "protect him" would be that he knows what his followers are like - they got pretty ugly with his opponent in the primary race, too. There have been no problems at any Jack Conway events. It's about time for everyone, especially Rand Paul, to deal with the real problem here - he has incited this violence in his redneck, gun-toting fans and he needs to "MAN UP" and do something about it. BEFORE TUESDAY.
Sandy Knauer Oct 30, 2010, 7:32pm UTC
And once again, Marilyn's account is dishonest.
Jim G. Oct 30, 2010, 9:30pm UTC
There was a cop standing right there. He just stood there & watched those goons take her down.
aniko    Oct 30, 2010, 10:52pm UTC
Mr. Proffit has explained that it was his bad back that made him do it. :)
Kathy W. Oct 31, 2010, 4:03pm UTC
I just have one question? Why is it that people like Marilyn can post on anyone else's articles, but she only allows her under-bred friends to comment on hers? Is it perhaps (drumroll.........................) that she is afraid of the truth?
It is okay for her to drop her little turdlettes of lies all over other people's articles, but you can't refute her turdlette posts with comments containing truth pellets and links to facts that dispute her B.S.? Why is that?

So, here's what I decided.
1) We have to ask Gather to post the information on WHO WROTE THE POST when our friends comment on someone's article. Personally, I would never intentionally follow anyone's links to one of Marilyn's articles, cause, you know.....why bother? BUT, it does irritate me that she drops a bu11$hit bomb on somebody elses work; and then runs back to her protected posts.
2) If Manic Marilyn ever comments on any of my posts in the future, I'm going to just delete them without reading them. TIT for TAT, as it were.
Wilka
I've been thinking along the same lines, Wilka. Why should we bear the burden of lies and crapola on our posts? Free Speech is one thing, but tolerating lies is not part of the deal.

I'll allow people to show their incredible ignorance over and over again - partly for my own amusement, and if someone wants to be rude to another person - fine, but that person must live with the consequences or return of the same. No skin off my butt.

But people who lie, defame, and endanger others with their words (talking to the anti-vaxers here) - we should feel free to delete those words from our posts.
Kathy W. Oct 31, 2010, 4:41pm UTC
We had a couple of kids in the neighborhood (Nanny kids) who would pinch at you, or bite you, and then run to their mommas, crying, that we started it. Nice to see that attitude is still all alive and well today. Marilyn is a nanny girl. She bites at you, and calls you names, but doesn't allow free speech on her posts. Really, really 1st grade stuff.
Wilka
Gail Mountain Oct 30, 2010, 3:48pm UTC
...that is chickenshit bullying at it's finest.

Best line of the post. They should all be embarrassed and then arrested. No one has the right to assault another person -- not even pretend, tough, security people securing candidates from The People.
Hi Gail - Calling them out. If they don't have sense to be embarrassed by their actions, we will teach the kids differently so they don't grow up to disgrace themselves.

(Hi Kenny.)
Gail Mountain Oct 31, 2010, 10:07am UTC
Hi, yes, keep calling them out and keep track, 2012 has already started.
aniko    Oct 30, 2010, 11:13pm UTC
I like Ms. Valle's response to Mr. Proffit's request for an "apology".

Here is an excerpt:



....Only when we decide let go of our hate, our violence and our aggression will we be able to communicate to each other about the issues that divide us. Right now, we are not communicating, we are stomping on each other. No one can ever win, no one can ever be heard, with violence.

You and I, as fellow citizens, and we, as a country, have a choice. Either we choose to continue the cycle of inflicting violence upon each other, screaming at each other, insulting each other and putting one another down or we [and] find a way to sit down and start listening to each other. We’ll see how far we get. We are all viciously and vociferously feeding a fire that will only burn us down together. We must reach inside ourselves and make space for each other. We must forgive each other. We must believe in our capacity for transformation. The moment we choose compassion and reconciliation is the moment that we will begin to move toward freedom. There is no other way.
Sandy Knauer Oct 30, 2010, 11:41pm UTC
She's a very sweet girl who, contrary to the nasty assumptions made by people who know nothing about her, is not looking for celebrity and only wants to make this a better world.
Thank you, Aniko, for adding Lauren Valle statement. I read it earlier yesterday but was busy and didn't get to add it here.
Karl Leuba Oct 31, 2010, 1:49pm UTC
Aw Crap, somebody stomped on EM JAY with a flag called hate speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko02ZFDQ33s&feature=channel
It was probably the Flaggin' Teabagger, Karl. Seems there is a no-name-having individual who believe "teabagger" is as bad as "the n word." My partner says no, and he's been a black man all his life.
(And you know that moment when Jon Stewart and Yusef embraced was my favorite moment of that rally.)
Karl Leuba Oct 31, 2010, 4:49pm UTC
It probably was, those tea baggers tend to wave the flag, use if for autograph books, cut it up to make shirts, and generally rally round whatever one is waved in their face at the time.
Michelle C. Oct 31, 2010, 2:10pm UTC
hate speech??? oic....it's hate when we talk about the truth. lies & slander wouldn't be considered hate speech???
what a troubled world the teabaggers must live in; maybe that's why they are filled with such violent ideas. they're angry at the world and taking it out on the rest of us.
I think you found the core, Michelle. They are angry and wanting a punching bag. We aren't having that, are we?
Michelle C. Oct 31, 2010, 4:25pm UTC
no one should be a punching bag for any reason.
Or any unreasonable. ;-)
Kathy W. Oct 31, 2010, 4:36pm UTC
Au contraire, my friend. I might have some of that. They throw the first punch, tho, so I can lay them out in court...and then own both of their houses and their pontoon boat, too.
Wilka
Michelle C. Nov 1, 2010, 1:01pm UTC
wilka dear; would you be willing to share that pontoon boat?!? ;)
Kathy W. Oct 31, 2010, 4:38pm UTC
Hey! YOU, CHUCK and I have all been tagged and flagged this week. I feel so very patriotic!

Luv them flags. To me, it's a sign of cowardice.
Wilka
I fly my freak flag high. ;-)
Congratulations on the flagging.

I like the orange tabby. Anyone who could flag a cute kitty for hate speech...

I really enjoy the defense for the Paulgoon. It's kind of like "she was asking for it" in rape cases.
Thank you, Nippy. The little tabby is Orangina Mott. She is a Demicat who runs campaigns from our front porch.

I was once blamed for getting smacked around. I know I said some shit, but I was very certain I did not ask to be physically abused.

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