OMG! The hypocrisy coming from the Right is never ending. I'm going to have so much ammunition going into the November mid-term elections, that I might have to create my own website called "Republican and Tea Party Hypocrisy, Let's Hold Them Accountable."
Hmmm! Where have I heard that before?
Republican Hypocrisy and Foot and Mouth Disease. Let's Hold Them Accountable.
http://hypocrisy.gather.com/
This is absolutely unbelievable. Another case of "do as I say and not as I do." Another Case of Tea Party Hypocrisy and dysfunctional behavior. Holly Molly!
FRANKFORT, Ky. — U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul's campaign acknowledged Friday that his in-laws had benefited from federal farm subsidies that he has been criticizing in stump speeches.
The revelation brought accusations of hypocrisy from his opponent's camp.
Paul, a tea party-backed Republican, has been critical of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's farm subsidy program even though his father-in-law received more than $10,000 in payments over 12 years.
Paul has repeatedly pointed to the subsidy program as an example of government waste, saying farmers shouldn't be paid not to grow crops. He also criticized payments going to the estates of dead farmers.
A database of subsidy payments maintained by the Environmental Working Group, a Washington-based organization that monitors the nation's agricultural programs, shows Paul's father-in-law, Hilton Ashby of Russellville, received annual allotments between 1996 and 2007. The amounts ranged from $382 to $996, totaling $10,276. The database also shows a payment of nearly $1,600 in 1995 to the estate of H.T. Ashby, Paul's late grand-father-in-law.
Campaign manager Jesse Benton acknowledged the payments on Friday, saying Paul's call to end the subsidy program also applies to relatives.
"This is the type of program we can't afford," Benton said. "It applies to friends and relatives as much as anyone else. He wants to stop that program for everybody."
Paul, a tea party-backed candidate who is running for the seat of retiring Sen. Jim Bunning, was soundly criticized Friday afternoon by Allison Haley, spokeswoman for Democratic Senate candidate Jack Conway, for the payments to Ashby.
"Rand Paul favors imposing his risky ideas on everyone but himself," Haley said.
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Haley accused Paul of hypocrisy, saying he has "railed against programs that support our farmers while his family is benefiting directly from the very same programs."
Ashby didn't immediately return a telephone call Friday afternoon.
Paul told a group of Kentucky farmers meeting in Louisville on Thursday that the federal payments may need to be cut to reduce the national debt. Conway told the same audience that eliminating the subsidy program, which pumped more than $200 million into the state last year, would hurt farm families.
In an effort to court farmers, an important voting bloc in Kentucky, Paul attended a church picnic earlier this week in western Kentucky, glad-handing with some of the state's largest growers of corn, soybean and wheat. They encouraged him to change his position on subsidies.
"We're caught between a rock and a hard place," said Glenn Howell, a Fulton County farmer who tills some 2,700 acres. "We've got to have the subsidies, right or wrong."
Paul, the son of former Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul, said he sees Kentucky's farming regions as must-wins if he is to be successful in November. Paul said needs to break even with Conway in the state's two largest cities and carry every other region of the state to win the race.
Am I being too harsh on the fledgling Tea Party or do they need to be held accountable for their actions? I believe the latter. What's your opinion?
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(That's me gloating, in case you don't recognize it.)
No one in their right mind should ever consider allowing these incompetents to govern.
Ooh, I can barely wait for November.
“The Dems have a track record of failure to campaign on in November.
America hates the Health Care Legislation, hates the deficit spending, hates the handling of the WAR, hates the potential tax increases to cover the wild reckless spending, hates the unemployment, lack of job creation, hates the failed stimulus, hates the bailouts, hates the immigration policy ineptitude and most certainly hates this Administration. Yes, come out and vote. Vote to "change the change". Let's get our country back!”
Not in the polls which are most reputable. The party of NO is easy to remember for all those unemployed whose checks were delayed and millions of other folks who are viewing the GOP as a failed party!
Although political correctness is usually associated with those on the Left, the Right certainly practice it too.
So the idea of a thumbs up or down is nothing but an illusion to be pursued, but never attained.
Sorry bringing both you and I back down to earth. LOL!
I'm very limited in my internet, seem lately I can only get on from about 7pm until -6am before it slows down and crashes during the heat of the day, so I won't be able to check back on this thread until tomorrow night. Unless things cool off with this heat wave, I'm stuck with this schedule until Comcast can get out here and replace the underground wire from teh box to my house....I'm so not a happy camper. I had to get internet access from Panera today, free WiFi.....but that's not possible every day.
Ok, now onto the matter at hand.
I am sorely lacking in the news department, so i am trusting that what you are writing is true.
And frankly, I find it disgusting.
While I am a conservative, I am an Independent, and I will vote values, and issues not a party. While the Tea Party started with honorable intentions, its been more or less taken over by the GOP as their own, and their own ideas. In short its become a grousse about Obama session, and not what people believe is right or wrong.
Frankly I don't hold a prayer of a hope for Ron Paul to succeed, (did I spell that right), its 12:14 am, I'm exhausted.....I was out shooting today, in this hotter than hell heat wave!......
I despise the hypocrasy (sp) that Rand Paul is forcing on the voters, and what is more disgusting is that he did not think these actions would come to light? Sounds like politics as usual.
As far as November elections? Only time will tell what they have in store for us.
But I've already sent a scathing letter to the GOP party about how disgusted I am with the GOP.....I'm sure they've taken me off their mailing list. I find it deplorable that they send a 'census' out to their members and ask that you pay to have your vote count.....Irked me off to NO END!, they got a 2 page tirade from me, not that I'm sure they will read it or not.....esp. since I didn't pay for it.
Mooch
I've been tossing around the idea of offering to work on campaigns for honest Republicans who will challenge the ones who are causing so much trouble/embarrassment for their party - provided they run on real issues instead of "I'm a Christian conservative with a wife and child". I actually did make that offer to a young man who considered running for a state office but he didn't think it would be possible to get the support he needed if he ran as a pro choice Republican with no religious leaning.
By the way I'll never let people know how they apologized to BP after the Obama administration held them accountable for their actions in the Gulf.
We know who's side they are on.
lol
After they destroy mom and pop capitalism, that's all that's left, you betcha.
They've thrown the middle and lower class people under the bus as they continue to lobby on behalf of America's richest of people and corporations.
Their true colors showed as they apologized to British Petroleum after the Obama administration held them accountable for their actions.
We now know who they work for. And it's not the average everyday American citizen.
He was also more popular than George Bush. Everyone benefited from the 8 years of peace and prosperity under former President Clinton's watch.
So what's your point?
I must admit by Jesus knowledge came from amateurs dabbling in the subject and not biblical scholars, like those guys with slick hair and nice suits on tv.
Peter that was my first thought. Sound like compliment to me.
May I ask what is your American dream? Living on a farm (with no subsidies) being completely self-sustaining, with no roads, schools, libraries, parks, swimming pools, police, fire . . . ? That's not mine.
Oh the horror!
Did I not just read that you were expecting your family and needed to focus on them? Must have been another lie! Or a dream!
Before Rand Paul ran his big mouth about ending farm subsidies, he should at have least checked whether his own father-in-law, who farms 2700 acres, at least benefited from those same subsidies.
This shows a lack of judgment and forethought. He's not capable of playing in the big league. He and the Tea Party belong in the minor league.
The tea party movement is supposed to be Oh, so innocent. BS! The people behind it are no worse than lobbyists out to get the administration at whatever cost. Bush led us to the toilet. The tea partiers want to flush us down into the sewers. And they don't care what it takes or what it costs to do it.
Keep them accountable every step of the way!
I've got my foot on the pedal. They will be held accountable for all their hypocrisy.
We'll soon pave over them.
lol
Please.
How can we forget, that is what kept bush and Cheney from selling the entire Country to foreign oil! Oh, we do remember!
I'm still waiting to hear what went on during Cheney's secret meeting with the oil executives in the early years of the Bush administration.
Could the conversation have been all about deregulation?
But that's not what I believe.
You imply that Paul believes it's OK for his in-laws but not for others. Where does he give any indication of this?
Exactly, Ivan.
I'm with you on this. I just don't see it as hypocrisy.
Where is the hypocrisy in this story?
Hypocrite:
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Now if he were the one getting the federal farm subsidies he'd be a hypocrite.
Still, after reading the story and the comments, I don't see it as a case of hypocrisy.
I don't like Rand or Ron Paul at all (not to mention the "libertarian" ideology), but I don't think your father-in-law having done something you consider wrong is hypocrisy. I know of cases in which a politician got his relatives all kinds of perks that he had campaigned against--that is, of course, a textbook case of high cynicism and hypocrisy, but there is no indication that it is the case here. In fact, Rand's opposition to farm subsidies seems to be a principled position, because it's not in his political interest at all, as it is obvious from this article itself. He's pissing off people who otherwise could constitute his base. He is admirably consistent, if consistently misguided, in my opinion.
People get your heads out of the sand and take the blinders off. The Republican Party and the Tea Party are infested with HYPOCRITES.
Let's make a list, then.
The small family farms got choked away, long ago, with no government help at all. Because that profited the banks.
The idea that each person should be judged by their own actions, and not by those of other members of their family (or religious or ethnic group) is a basic principle of liberal thought. We shouldn't throw it out the window for a couple of cheap shots at our political adversaries.
My question would be, is the man getting 10,000 bucks from Uncle Sam a fan of the Tea Party?
Peter this is one of the positive things that have come out of the Shirley Sherrod episode.
We now know how Black farmers were unjustly treated.
Jeff you and Nora have a warped sense of something. Please provide evidence for your accusation.
"That's my take on it too Jeff, "desperation"..."
What exactly does that mean Nora?
I'm laughing along with you.
LMAOL!!!!!!!!
O.K. O.K. since it's just his half brother I can see why he doesn't give a rats ass. But that cold heated ghetto mentality never works. See the community Obama organized for proof...
Maybe I was a little rough in my verbiage. But I have a sister (half) that I met twice in my life and she is blood. "Half" is a ghetto term. Kind of like "oreo" or "Uncle Tom"
I am white pride. White power is for socialists.
In my pride Europeans, Africans, Mexicans, Asians, ALL have prospered. There are countless examples. There are stories that should be told but there is an ideology that spreads like cancer telling people that they are chained to a hated ethnicity and hope comes from government handouts and special favors. That ideology spits on my heritage. It spits on REAL hope and kills inspiration. So my disgust doesn't come from race or anything else liberals can imagine. It comes from the fact that the dreams children are born with can be stepped on and killed to advance an ideology with such ease and my voice of opportunity and encouragement can be killed at the same time.
Jeff you should be proud of your heritage just as I am proud of mine. What's so frustrating is when influential people like Rush Limbaugh says that Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama only got where they are because they are Black.
Statements like that ignore the fact that 80 to 85 percent of African Americans are hard working, tax paying, God fearing, people who've overcome many obstacles.
We're not lazy bums or welfare queens. We've done exactly what this country asked us to do. Pull ourselves up from our bootstraps and make positive contributions to our nation.
Someone made a comment saying that I will always remain poor because of my liberal persuasion, saying that my dependency on hand-outs limits my desire to excel.
What this person doesn't know is that I own multiple homes of which all are paid for and that I'm a very responsible person with a credit score of over 700 on all 3 credit reporting agencies. I have a degree in early childhood education and mass communications. Multiple degrees.
You can't achieve this being a lazy bum. And my story is not unique.
So being proud of your heritage is a good thing. Slamming others is a bad thing. All groups have their good and bad.
I wish I were a fly on the wall, listening to conversations between farmers in Rand Paul's home state.
"That SOB wants to end our welfare." "We just can't have this." "I thought he and the Tea Party were on our side." "Say NO to Rand Paul." "I need my welfare subsidies"
Now if you want to eliminate subsidies I will vote for that. But if some are getting them, all should, right. But how did those companies get those subsidies in the first place? Big money. Big money will continue to loot the treasury and there's nothing we can do about it because whoever we send to Congress will be bought and paid for and lobbyists will pull their strings.
To let an industry as big as GM that also creates other industries (like auto parts) collapse while we needed a stimulus would have just made stimulating the economy even harder. (It was said that if it went ahead and collapsed anyway after the recession was over, that was okay, the economy could take the blow, then).
Why do Conservatives keep forgetting the serious economic crash we are still in, and seem to have no ability to figure out cause and effect.
As our banks are still dropping like flies ...
Pull YOUR head out of the sand!!!!
The correct thing to do would have been to pay the government back and then he would have had an ounce of credibility.
Thanks for posting this to Dicks Cafe.
That is why it is important to understand who it is that one votes for.He is not up to speed.
The correct thing to do would have been to pay the government back and then he would have had an ounce of credibility.
He could have been the one to say so, so it doesn't look so hypocritical.
Farm subsidies encourage a lot of bad farming practices and mostly benefit large businesses. Paul's actually right on this one. I'm thinking it's the broken clock principle.
I can't help feeling a strong jolt of schadenfreude from reading the news about Paul's in laws though. Paul is mostly a troglodyte in libertarian's clothing. Anything that justifies selfishness is OK by Paul. He doesn't really understand self-interest in the same way that his hero Adam Smith did.
I think he's right too. But there's a lot of hypocrisy when his own father-in-law is receiving them as he rallies against them.
These hypocrites are never-ending. They have a selective memory loss when they please!
The war mongering Right should look at itself to cut the deficit, like stop all military spending, at least rein it in! Some 93% of the deficit is a result of it.
Leave it to a bully to go after the little guy. I sure hope America's farmers
are not too exhausted to let this news sink in. Good subject for discussion, Lloyd! tame
NOT A @%&#+*%# THING!!!!
It has everything to do with it. He shouldn't go around telling others what to do when someone in his immediate family is doing just that.
It's a simple as that. It's called hypocrisy Ivan.
Hypocrite:
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Does Rand Paul recieve the subsidies? NO
Face it, Lloyd. You're wrong on this. But to save face with your liberal friends, (even some of them have disagreed with you on this), you keep beating that drum.
Is Rand wanting to exempt Rand Paul's Father-In-Law from subsidy cuts? NO.
This is another desperate attempt by Rand's opponents. You can do better. Debate the relevant issue instead of looking for mud to throw.