Â

Today the weight of the federal government joined five other lawsuits filed against the Arizona immigration bill, SB1070.
In the lawsuit “The United States of America, Plaintiff v. The State of Arizona†the Department of Justice uses pre-eminent authority.
The introduction of the lawsuit states: “In this action, the United States seeks to declare invalid and preliminarily and permanently enjoin the enforcement of S.B. 1070 as amended and enacted by the State of Arizona, because S.B. 1070 is preempted by federal law and therefore violates the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution.â€
“In our constitutional system, the federal government has preeminent authority to regulate immigration matters. This authority derives from the United States Constitution and numerous acts of Congress.â€
In other words, federal law trumps state law.
It was only a matter of time until the Justice Department stepped in, fearing copycat laws in other states, creating havoc in the court system and no real continuity controlling immigration.
The Justice Department declared that SB1070 will “cause the detention and harassment of authorized visitors, immigrants and citizens who do not have or carry identification documents†while ignoring “humanitarian concerns†and harming diplomatic relations. (AP)
SB1070 is just ripe for harassment, allowing police to stop anyone – anyone- they think is in the country illegally. Of course that is an open invitation for racial profiling as much as Arizona says they are training their officers not to do so.
Arizona Congressman Raul Grijalva made a good point about SB 1070 when speaking with Tucson’s Channel 9. “This law has nothing to do with border security number one and the constitutionality that's being tested here should be a message to all of us that we can just not go on emotion and ideology we have to pass a constitutional validity test. And this is what the courts are for," Grijalva said.
The government also said they are targeting dangerous aliens, those who pose a danger to the national security, whereas the Arizona law would force federal officials to cope with a flood of illegal immigrants who pose no danger. (LA Times)
There is no doubt that the issue of immigration needs to be addressed, but not by laws like SB1070, not by longer and higher walls, or “shipping them back where they came from.â€
Not all immigrants are drug dealers or bad people. Smithsonian magazine reported that according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, an association of 30 democratic, free-market countries, the United States was home to 12.5 million skilled immigrants.
“Between 1990 and 2005, immigrants started one out of four venture-backed public companies. Large American firms are also increasingly led by people with roots in foreign countries, including 15 of the Fortune 100 CEOs in 2007.†(Smithsonian, July/August 1020)
I don’t know about Arizona, but without immigrants, both legal and illegal, California would be missing a lot of nannies, gardeners and house cleaners, not to mention hotel workers, food servers and most especially, farm workers. There are also an abundance of immigrants here as professionals.
The Smithsonian article continues, “the United States of 2050 will look different from that of today: whites will no longer be in the majority.â€
Therein lies the elephant in the Arizona room, “whites will no longer be in the majority.†Hiding behind bills like SB1070, buying more guns and building higher and longer walls will not change that fact, much to the chagrin of conservative whites in America. They see their “Masters of the Universe†power slipping away and in their fear and anger, they respond with emotional bills like SB1070.
Because the Arizona law is scheduled to take effect on July 29, the federal lawsuit will be on a fast track. According to the LA Times, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton has set a hearing for July 22 in Phoenix to hear arguments on whether to block the law for going into effect. If she issues a temporary injunction, the state can immediately appeal to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, and from there, to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Speaking to Tucson’s Channel 9, Civil Rights Attorney Stephen Montoya said the federal lawsuit “Basically signals the end of 1070.â€
Montoya continued, “The United States is a nation, singular, nation, and not nation’s and therefore, only one federal immigration law can be enforced.â€
We are a nation of immigrants. One nation. Maybe SB1017 is the catalyst needed to tackle the problem of illegal immigration, as one nation with one Constitution.
Â
Â
Â
Cheri Cabot, Politics Correspondent
Cheri’s column, “Personal About Politics,†published every week, will reflect on how the life of a 60 year-old, middle class woman is affected by politics, policy and the current state of the nation - a look at the personal aspects of politics. Her column is part of Gather Essentials.
Cheri is a freelance writer, living in Southern California. She has two grown children and is the proud grandmother of three.
You can find all of Cheri’s columns on Personal About Politics at www.personalpolitics.gather.com, The Obama Watch at theobamawatch.gather.comor her home page here, www.ccabot.gather.com.
Â
Â
Â
Â
Â




















Comments: 136
The problem of drug runners is an entirely different culture & population than those working at the grunt labor.
The dilemma i saw was lack of education reduced productivity and quality of the goods and services provided, but education also had the side effect of increasing the awareness that the institution was wrong.
Collecting the stats in the contributions of illegal immigrants is quite a lot of work. Then, after you do the work, you just get abused by people who will not believe that what you have found can be true. They like their beliefs and will not willingly change them.
Besides, it would not solve the problems anyway. :-(
I would rather work and spreading word of the solutions.
Don't they spend any of that money on things produced in the U.S.?
If they don't spend it in the U.S. and it never comes back here, what did we have to give up to get their labor?
Now lets bring that money they sent out of the country back into the picture. If it stays out of the country forever, we never have to give goods and services for it. We got their labor and didn't have to give any goods and services. That's quite a good deal for us. But if they do send it back to buy goods and services, it is only after a time lag. We get the labor now and they get something back for it later. That is also to our advantage. No interest on that "loan." In fact, given the likelihood of inflation, the money that comes back can buy less than the money we gave them earlier. We gain at their expense again.
So in all these conditions we win. When you add in that they are working for less than U.S. workers seem to demand, it makes our advantage in the situation overwhelming in our favor.
Question 2 from your comment.
1) No American lost a job. If we have a free market, then he did not choose to work at the market price for his labor. If we don't have a free market then blame the employer, not the immigrant.
2) If there are some 11 million illegal workers in the U.S. (I saw that somewhere here on Gather and I don't have any idea if it is accurate.) that comes to about 4,000 per worker for the $45 billion. That's a pretty big profit for us (see my explanation above). We win big time.
3) Those illegals are mostly young adults who are the most healthy of the population. Being poor they don't go to the doctor unless it's pretty urgent. So those crowded hospitals are not full of immigrants they are full of Americans who have health insurance.
4) Those illegals are mostly adults without kids. Thus they provide more than their share of the income that pays the property taxes for those kids. (Their rent pays those taxes and they mostly don't have kids here.)
5) Our jails are crowded because of the War on Drugs, not because of illegal immigrants.
6) Our crime is mostly because of the War on Drugs (organized crime) not illegal immigrants.
7) They consume less (as you point out) so they pollute less.
8) Our tourists bring in far more diseases.
9) You already pointed out they consume less than we do.
10) Cultural homogeneity is bad for us. Don't you like pizza and fried rice?
So far, you have only pointed out advantages. When do we get to the harms?
12.5 millions out of 310 millions is nothing else than 4%!
Usually wealthier countries have to deal with some 7% to 10% and they can cope with it!
The only thing getting out of your comments is that you are so scared that you feel yourself unable to deal with just half of the other countries.
Is this due to unability to assimilate people? Racism? Or just the desire to maintain your fellow citizens at the lower possible education stage?
Usually, immigrants, legal or not, perceive much lower wages than nationals. Thanks to this difference, per example, farm industry can still be active on the market. Meanwhile the national citizens can be busy working in better position or being more educated. This is our European experience about our (limited to) 10% immigrants.
Don't tell me that you can't deal with just 4%.
What are you afraid of?
You mention 45 billions of US dollars leaving the country. And what? Do you ever feel that their family is buying their toilet papers in us dollars? These dollars are sent back for buying US made items (unless of course you resell them China made items). But then they are again not responsible for the stupidity of having during 8 years promoted the outsourcing.
Outsourcing? This cost much more than 8 million jobs and have been promoted by some deregulated behavior regarding the big concerns.
Instead of crying, alike a child uttering nonsense, you should keep in touch with reality.
This isn't your post and this thread was started by my comment. You are the one who butted in with your comments. You are the one who is insulting. You are the one who would be considered stalking. If you don't like my comments then don't comment on them.
Your stereotypical remarks are almost too disgusting for reply! Wave an American flag around, mention "our freedoms", and your Tea Party blather seems justified to you!... These hard-working people supply you with MOST of the food you eat! They get these jobs because they are SKILLED at them, and most legal Americans won't take them... They have started MANY of the new businesses in our town, and they are SUCCESSFUL family businesses! We AMERICANS consume WAY beyond our means...credit, credit...charge, charge, charge!...our homes in foreclosure, cars repossessed, etc...contributing to this screwed up economy! These people are frugal, and live simply!...Very few of these people are "running drugs across" the border! Who cares how many of them live in one home?!... They live within their means, and take care of their families!! We AMERICANs are "every man for himself"!
"Don't get [you] started"?!.... You come on a Liberal web site, and start insulting and name calling...What is your point?!......Either calmly and intelligently state your views (many of us will consider them...), or go find a Glen Beck site where you can rant all you want!
I agree...A comprehensive (and HUMANE) immigration bill is needed, but this racially profiling, cloaked piece of bigotry that Arizona has imposed is NOT it!
This law is more of the same "cowboy" mentality, that got us into Iraq. You'd think that "philosophy" would have exited the American psychology when Bush left office. No, it simply migrated to Arizona. These folks are not really interested in actually solving the immigration problem. This is more about kicking ass and taking names than anything else.
As I've said elsewhere, any first year psychology student will tell you, if you want to "extinguish" a behavior (illegal immigration), stop "reinforcing" it (illegal jobs). If you do not build it, they will not come.
When they catch the illegals, before sending them back, offer them to register for the program and return legally next time.
Maybe the field jobs aren't being snapped up, but I've worked in and around the construction industry for over 30 years and I can tell you that more and more construction jobs are being lost to illegal labor. It's disheartening to see so many Americans sitting at home unemployed and losing their homes while what little work there is out here in California being sold to the lowest bidder. (translate illegal alien laborers)
How does the minimum wage compare with the amount available under your programs to assist the unemployed?
And thanks for your thoughtful comments, I always appreciate it.
Therein lies the elephant in the Arizona room, “whites will no longer be in the majority.” Hiding behind bills like SB1070, buying more guns and building higher and longer walls will not change that fact, much to the chagrin of conservative whites in America. They see their “Masters of the Universe” power slipping away and in their fear and anger, they respond with emotional bills like SB1070.
Well said. I've not read the suit but if they are aware of the work that has been done on the part of some Arizona offices and a consultant in D.C. to cast the widest net possible without care for who might get caught in it while tying themselves in knots in an effort to not get called constitutionally, the case will be more interesting than it appears to be.
http://www.gather.com/sharePosts.action?articleId=281474978220898
(Or, somewhere around page 6 on my Posts listing...)
http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML
Yes we need to enforce our borders NOW! Maybe Arizona isn't doing it the right way, but atleast they are doing something.
And this shtuff about "whites" being afraid of losing their "power" p-lease. That's not even real today. Do the math. There are 228.2 million whites in America (75%) Playing the race card is total weak sauce.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
This is the most timely and relevant statement in the whole article, to me
Shame on you for hating our nation!
Arizona did not make it racial. Bleeding heart apologetic whites made it racial. Arizona law enforcement must A. Have stopped a person for a current law being broken, FIRST. Same as you or I. B. discover that the person does not have 1. a license 2. Speak English 3. or have any current documentation. Hardly laying in wait for the next "#%&@" to come along and shaking him down. What this is doing is undoing anti profiling laws that make it impossible for an arresting officer to connect 1, 2,and 3 to it's logical end. As it is now, in L.A., if a cop tries to add this up he's labeled a racist and reprimanded. It's not rocket science. If you pull over someone and they don't have a license, documentation, or speak the spoken tongue they probably "ain't from around here". Who'd-a thunk?
And note this -- a higher percentage of Hispanic voters (62 %) would support a law similar to the one in Arizona in Colorado than would whites (61 %). Interesting. It shows that most Hispanic-Americans understand the Arizona law isn't about racism or even opposition to immigration. It's about a state trying to curb illegal immigration only
Reminds me somewhat of that "It is after 10PM, do you know where your child is?" they had here in the 60's. That curfew law was a product of Reagan as Governor!
WHITE HOUSE STANDS BY DOJ SUIT AGAINST ARIZONA - At his daily briefing today, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs reiterated the Obama administration's opposition to Arizona's "Oh-hey-while-we-have-you-for-that-broken-turn-signal" law. "The President believes that we filed a strong case based on the fact that you can't have 50 states making a patchwork of immigration decisions," Gibbs said, adding: "The President wasn't elected to do what was popular; he was elected to do what's right." Greg Sargent in Plum Line: http://bit.ly/9b0cRI
That failure could be a legal basis for throwing out the Obama's lawsuit. It's called "Selective Enforcement", i.e. "what's good for the gander is good for the goose"
Ron Vanderford: Maybe you should lose the condescending attitude and view the video also, instead of attempting to belittle someone based on your ignorance of the recent past.
Now I get it. Your one of those self appointed thread stalkers who feel they have been given a license to determine the value of others contributions and comments. This combined with the "Bush did it too" crowd. Just what Gather needs.
Accept it Ron, "Obama's mistake" is not a neurological stimulus to "Bush's mistake".
It just makes your argument laughable! L O L!
But, I also agree with Rob that due to the availability of illegal workers wages in construction, along with other fields, for both unskilled and skilled labor have now been pushed downward to, or near, minimum wage. As the head of United Farm Workers Union Cesar Chavez was opposed to illegal immigration. His reason, of course, is that illegals put further downward pressure on wages for his union members.
uniform rules of naturalization.
As to Larry's comment: "People work best when seeking rewards, not when running from threats," anyone who was in the labor force in the fifties doesn't need research to know that is true. It was the era of "loyalty," which ran both ways, and it was good for both business and the people. Today, by comparison we are in the era of "insecurity," the benefits from which will eventually run out for big business...