Do you believe in God, and if you do why and what does He mean to you?
I for one believe in God. He saved me in spite of myself, but for so many, God exists only when the person is in need, so I thought it would be interesting to get your viewpoint of God. I'm not talking about religion which is a man made concept. I'm talking about God.
I ask that you respect other viewpoints if you care to discuss this intelligently and politely.
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Why feminine? God doesn't have a gender. I use the male pronoun just because the Bible does.
Although many here on Gather make it believable that people evolved from rocks.
Abiogenesis, according to all current information that I have been able to read, is impossible.
I don't believe that I and my pet Shi Tzu Poodle, cute as we both are, have any ancestors in common.
Imagine if I found spirituality in all organic, and inorganic material, like some do. I think I'd be a basket case. Invisible "souls" crushed under my feet.
Just too fanciful a tale for me.
And my girlfriend informs me that when God created man she was only joking.
Well said John. That holds true especially for those who claim that they worship God.
Tim,
You've obviously spent a lot of time staring into the eyes of your liberal friends. I know its hard to imagine any "soul" when you do, but you have to have faith.
You've obviously spent a lot of time staring into the eyes of your liberal friends. I know its hard to imagine any "soul" when you do, but you have to have faith.
Dennis this is exactly the type of stuff I am talking about.
"So I think to myself yep that is EXACTLY the kind of group I WANT to join. The intolerant, self righteous, asshole brigade."
There are professionals that can help you deal with things like that.
Beyond that you are just proving to me how intolerant some christians are.
Take your fat a@@ and go sit in the corner!!
No Erik you are not fat; you are just short for your weight.
HE has saved me from a life of sin.
HE is always there for me, no matter what.
When I felt like I did not deserve salvation, HE told me
I did.
God is so good to me.
Perhaps if there were less people like that there would be more people who believed in god.
Anyone can recognize micro-evolution, but evolution is still just a theory because it cannot explain macro-evolution.
If you have any scientific evidence that people evolved from rocks, please share it with us.
Until then, Intelligent design is a framework of logical thinking based on the observable evidence that can be used to analyze scientific data.
Both Intelligent design and evolution are theories and neither can be proven or disproven yet.
I say I dont believe in god. The next person comes in and tells me I AM GOING TO BURN IN HELL FOR IT AND THEY WILL PRAY FOR ME CAUSE I REALLY NEED IT
So I think to myself yep that is EXACTLY the kind of group I WANT to join. The intolerant, self righteous, asshole brigade.
The question was whether I believe in god not whether I can prove Intelligent design or evolution.
But on that note please provide proof of the existance of god and the theory of creativity.
The Big bang merely explains the expansion of the universe. Neither "theory" attempts to explain our origins. That is a fallacy concocted by religious fundamentalists who do not understand the concept of a common gene pool. (which NO does not mean we all evolved from some primordial ooze)
You're very good at spinning a yarn or making stuff up.
Who said, "GOING TO BURN IN HELL FOR IT AND THEY WILL PRAY FOR ME CAUSE I REALLY NEED IT"?
I won't tell you that you're going to Hell. But I will tell you that if you can't stand the heat - get out of the kitchen.
I am not discounting the "theory of Evolution". I'm only pointing out that it IS just a theory. Too many people believe it to be a fact.
In fact, I noted-above that, "Both Intelligent design and evolution are theories and neither can be proven or disproven yet."
And how does that discount Intelligent design?
Really I have no problem with intelligent design, until a person tries to discredit evolution with it. They can "co-exist" quite nicely.
As for the LITERAL 6 day creation story with the earth being 6,000 years old........don't make me laugh.
I doubt that there will ever be any scientific evidence that people evolved from rocks. There isn't much carbon in rocks. There's certainly evidence that methane + ammonia + lightning will yield organic chemicals. Evolution isn't about the origin of life, by the way. It's about the diversity of life and how it got that way. The origin of life is an entirely different question.
Intelligent design is a classic example of begging the question, the logical fallacy where you assume that what you intend to prove is true in order to prove that it's true. It's not something that you can test scientifically.
As far as complexity vs. probability, when I was in high school a couple of my friends played over 100 hands of War, the simplest card game this side of Indian Poker. One of them won every game. That's 100 times 52 cards were shuffled and dealt into 2 piles. The odds of that happening are 1 in 2^100. It only took a few hours. Think about what could happen in a billion years.
If we discount Intelligent design, can evolution stand on its own? I don't think so. The theory of Evolution suggests that mankind is the result of chance or an accidental fusion of molecules?
Life has always been replicated by another form of life. To the best of our scientific knowledge, life doesn't happen by accident.
I have no problem with the heat. Seems like you are the only one getting your panties in a twist over this.
I can no more "prove" evolution or intelligent design any more than you can "prove" the existance of god.
But go back to your slams and name calling. Whenever I see someone like you I realize how right my decision of not believing is.
Like the old Lone Ranger joke, "What do you mean 'we'?"
One more time. Evolution, as a scientific theory, has nothing to do with the origin of life. That's a totally separate question. Evolution is about the diversity of life forms.
I get tired of criticism of science that's based on fundamental misunderstandings of what science is about.
So true Nips. I had an ephiphany about colors all being really black and white and the true meaning of life...I was listening to the Cars "Moving in Stereo" and smoking some really good weed but I dont base my whole existance on it.
Actually, to be more precise, a scientific theory is an opinion arrived at based on observation, data collection and/or experimentation. It is not exactly "validated" just supported.
As I have mentioned on another thread, two equally qualified and experienced experts sometimes look at the same evidence and arive at different conclusions. The theories are the personal opinions of scientists, supported by carefully investigated evidence.
Exactly. That's why I believe in intelligent design.
Wait.... wasn't this your comment?:
Lori F. Oct 20, 2009, 4:06pm EDT
This is what usually happens.
I say I dont believe in god. The next person comes in and tells me I AM GOING TO BURN IN HELL FOR IT AND THEY WILL PRAY FOR ME CAUSE I REALLY NEED IT
So I think to myself yep that is EXACTLY the kind of group I WANT to join. The intolerant, self righteous, asshole brigade.
If your personality is that split, perhaps you should consder signing in and out and making believe that you're different members.
Wrong. Evolution is entwined with the origin of life. Unless of course, you referring to microevolution.
The origin of life is what calls macroevolution into question.
But it's hard to get the big picture when you have such a small mind.
Why is it always the godd*mn dope-smoking-hippies that tell Kartman he has issues?
Congratulations! I heard your IQ test came back negative. You must be relieved.
So... you're a godda*mn coke-snorting-hippie. You're all the same as far as Kartman is concerned.
I was only trying to make you feel better. Should I have instead brought up your Hermaphrodite mother?
No. I hope you croak you sick little frog.
Why don't you go kiss a prince and give him warts?
If you were here I would offer you a croak-a-cola and laugh after you drank it.
I thought your avitar was a frog. But it must be a toad. Because when you leave a comment, everyone can tell its toad stool.
Keep buggin' me. I hope your little frog friend mistakes you for her dinner and chokes on you.
I hope you're poorly executed by a rat snake when you hopping home tonight.
And while I am on the subject despite what you mother says SIZE does matter.
Did you already have a falling out with Lori? Why are you calling her a swine?
And no I didn't sleep through biology. Some of my fondest memories came when I was slicing apart the frog like a Ninja warrior.
Well, then I hope you're confronted by a car then. I know cars don't mind confronting frogs, especially after it rains.
If size is really a problem for you, try and flush twice.
I wonder where you found a ninja frog to dissect, usually it is Bullfrogs that are used.
Did Paris Hilton tell you that? Besides, I'll bet you were checking out her avatar because you thought it was a VW Beetle.
Don't assume I'm a Christian Just because I'm intolerant. I just think that Intelligent Design makes more sense than the theory of Evolution.
Next time I see one of your endangered frogs at Golden Corral, I'm squashing it with a stick.
Of course you want a yellow Beetle. You're a frog.
I'm Kartman... I want orange cheesy poofs.
*Pokes Kartman*
Do you want me to sing you the song about his mom?
You ate to many cheesy poofs they went to your brain.
If you keep acting like this God is going to punish your fat a@@
I'm eating all these cheesy poofs so I can evolve.
Besides, according to 73% of Athiests, God won't punish me because he doesn't exist.
Good one!
Evolution on whatever scale you want to talk about is about the diversity of life forms. The origin of life is a separate question. It's an interesting question but it's not a part of evolutionary theory.
What you're saying is comparable to saying that Newtonian mechanics includes the origin of the universe.
Great article!
Yes, same here Dennis and Great Article indeed.
Good to hear from you.
I Need Him, Like I need Air To-Breath.
I do not believe your soul dies, either you go to be with the maker or he makes you come back as someone else till you get it right.
Hi Janet, who told you that? Or did you come up with that? That's not a Christian view at all.
Please no one knows the truth but GOD/JESUS.
I am sorry this is what I believe , NO one has to tell me anything.
Thank you !! You act more Christian then a lot of ChristianS lol
Lori you would make a damn GOOD Christian lol
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You tell me how I am wrong that your soul does not die????
Have you ever talked to God????
If you have then it stops here!
If not maybe you should start talking to him!!
If you needed someone I d be there for you !! Because thats what God wants me to do.
I used to believe exactly that. It made sense, but now I believe in God and we get one shot at this life. I'd like do overs, but that not Biblical. I do respect your beliefs and that we all take our own path to find truth.
not in the slightest
i do however
believe in the easter bunny
You are so special !! {hugs}
We love you no matter what you believe!!
I feel bad for you!!!
A few weeks ago our Minister was preaching on people's belief system.
what kids believe and when they stop believing them...
He said I do not want to blow any one away but there is no Santa Claus!!
I thought I was going to die! Lol