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by Marilyn M.
Member since:
February 14, 2007

It's Not a Joke - President Obama Won the Nobel Peace Prize

October 09, 2009 07:31 AM EDT
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As I sat here listening to Fox News in the background, they announced that Obama had won the Nobel Peace Prize.  I thought for sure it was a joke, but it's not.

 

Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize

 

U.S. President Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between people," says the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

 

Yeah, Obama is great with foreign policy and international diplomacy and generating co-operation.

 

Let's see...

 

He gave the Queen of England an iPod full of his own speeches.

 

He gave the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown 25 DVDs that don't work in Europe.

 


Turkey tried to block the appointment of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as NATO secretary general because Rasmussen didn't punish the Danish cartoonist about the cartoon of Mohammad.  France's Sarkozy and Germany's Merkel were outraged at this.  But Obama was not and supported Turkey's induction into the European union.

 

He bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

 

In Strasburg, France, Obama said, "In America, there is a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world.  Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times when America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive." 

 

Hugo Chavez met with Obama without preconditions, humiliated Obama repeatedly, and gave him an anti-American book - The Open Veins of Latin America.  Obama didn't remark on it.  He did shake hands with Chavez, and there's a great picture of that available.

 

Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega went on a 50-minute anti-American rant, calling Obama "president of an empire." And Obama didn't leave the room.

 

And now, Iran is making nuclear weapons and Obama's reaction to that is, "Tsk, tsk, pretty please don't do that or we might have to do something about it."

 

Yessiree, that's one fine and peaceful President we have.

 

Meanwhile, our President hasn't figured out how to not spend money, how to be the bipartisan president he claimed he would be, or how to keep the dollar from collapsing. 

 

And, meanwhile, the United States is more divided now than it has ever been.  And this president either doesn't know that or doesn't care.  But I'm sure he's thrilled that the rest of the world thinks so highly of his "peace keeping" abilities.  I always said his goal was to be leader of the world, not the US.

 

Peace keeping?  Some would call it being a wimp.

 

And, frankly, I think having Obama receive this award in such a short time for doing so very little is an afront to people who have worked all of their lives for peace and unity throughout the world, and even to past Presidents more worthy.

 

Jimmy Carter received the award in 2002 for his "decades of untiring efforts" toward peaceful solutions in conflicts around the globe.

 

Woodrow Wilson won the prize in 1919 for developing a 14-point plan for worldwide peace talks.

 

Theodore Roosevelt won the award in 1906 for his role in mediating a bloody dispute between Russia and Japan that resulted in the Treaty of Portsmouth.

 

I really do not see Obama as being anywhere near as worthy as these past presidents.

 

 

 

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By the way, in case you've forgotten, here are the mistakes Obama made in the first 100 days.

 

100 Days, 100 Mistakes

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Dr. Candace H. Oct 9, 2009, 7:43am EDT
Well honey like they say in Christiandom " Favor Ain't Fair."
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 4:07pm EDT
Misty, I just received 97 emails from you that were identical comments. In case you don't know, that is against terms of service here and is spamming. Please delete all duplicate comments from my posts now.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 5:04pm EDT
Yes, it is spam if it's the same comment that you cut and paste. And I got the emails because I get a notice every time anyone comments to my posts.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 8:10pm EDT
Didn't realize I missed this one on the last round, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:46am EDT
He expanded the war in Afghanistan / Pakistan, did nothing in Darfur, has done nothing with North Korea, Iran or the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, has not stopped the killing in Zimbabwe, ordered the killing of pirates off the coast of Somalia and has not drawn down forces in Iraq. By that criteria, shouldn't Bush have gotten the prize as well?
Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Oct 9, 2009, 7:47am EDT
good points AC.............
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 8:41am EDT
Excellent points, AC.
Lee Y. Oct 9, 2009, 10:40am EDT
Seems he was nominated about 2 months after he took office, before he did all those things, and even before he hadn't done what he still hasn't done to deserve it.
Robert A. Oct 9, 2009, 11:37am EDT
Sheeesh! I can't believe I'm with the conservatives on this. Expansion of wars in countries that never attacked us... that's not peace.
Angela A. Oct 9, 2009, 1:53pm EDT
I could say what that man is worthy of but it would not be a g rated comment so its best not to say
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 5:04pm EDT
"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Oct 9, 2009, 7:46am EDT
what a joke..........

so much for the reputation of the Nobel Prize....
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 8:41am EDT
That's what I was thinking.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 8:53am EDT
A bit like when Gore got it instead of Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Irena Sendler.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:56pm EDT
Since you felt the need to repost this nonsense, Misty, I'll repost my response:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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kokomo *. Oct 9, 2009, 7:49am EDT
I love it, I love it, I love it,. If for no other reason that it "burns your butt" (as we say in TN. Yes, we really do say that!). You made my day by posting this!

Have a great day! I am starting out mine SMILING!
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 7:52am EDT
Sound and concise political reasoning...........
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 8:44am EDT
:)
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 8:54am EDT
There were 205 nominees, including the French President. Surely you cannot think that Obama has earned this?
kokomo *. Oct 9, 2009, 10:04am EDT
Since when are you a fan of the French president?

My understanding of this honor (being chosen to be a Nobel Peace prize winner) is that the person is doing something of importance in attempting to bring about peace in the world. That doesn't mean he (or she) would have been able to stop all wars, or even the ones his own country is involved in.

If you will recall right before the US invaded Iraq, Nelson Mandela (another Peace prize winner) said that George W. Bush was the person who most threatened world peace. Quite the opposite of how President Obama is perceived abroad.

Unfortunately most Americans have little perception of what is going on outside of this country.....other what they see on Fox News. :-O

Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:37am EDT
And here I thought the only ones who were naive about world news were those who watched the tingle up the leg channel.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:57pm EDT
And again:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Larry M. Oct 9, 2009, 7:51am EDT
It turned out the Wilson didn't deserve the prize either. He totally mishandled the postwar period (until his mental incapacity). We have Wilson partly to blame for WWII but at least he was far less to blame than other leaders of the Allies.
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Joy McCormick Oct 9, 2009, 7:52am EDT
Maybe he won it because he promised that he would sit down and talk things out with terrorists?
But really, is it "peaceful" to walk away with your tail between your legs?

Maybe he got it because he keeps apoligizing for American wherever he goes?
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:39am EDT
By Jove, I think you've got it!
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:57pm EDT
One more time:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Katie Scarlett(Proud Mom of a successful Son) O. Oct 9, 2009, 8:07am EDT
Yeah, Yasar Arafat won it also years ago. Speaks volumes to me.
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Brett C. Oct 9, 2009, 8:20am EDT
Marilyn--

You are trying to prove that, in the International Arena, Obama is a diplomatic apologist.

I do not believe that you can say that, as yet. I do not believe that many of your examples are indicative of true and real incompetence in International Affairs.

The President has not been in office long enough to be guilty of all his perceived offenses
--both at home and abroad.

However, I will have to agree with you that President Obama does not deserve the Nobel Peace prize.

And I think it is a symbolic--and maybe even a political--mistake to give it to him.

It seems to me that the Nobel Committee has determined the following:

that shortly after his inauguration, his enormous popularity abroad--especially in Africa and Europe--would bode well for a reduction in global conflict; and that by hedging their bets--of nominating him--such peace initiatives, after the nomination, would be emboldened.

Though I support Obama, I do not support the awarding of this prize to him.

It's a mistake--and it actually could affect his judgement, erroneously, in the future......because he would feel that he has a standard to hold up to that, theoretically, could impel him to make decisions that, with regard to US security, could well be ill-advised.

I do not appreciate what the Nobel Committee did.

But then, again, they gave the award to Arafat--did they not?

So the Committee's judgements may be as political and as slanted as the IOC's in Copenhagen......but, ironically, perhaps, for quite different reasons.....
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 8:23am EDT
Very insightful comments, Brett.
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 8:26am EDT
Maybe they're just trying to suck up for giving the Olympics to Rio.......
Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:50am EDT
Maybe you are too uninformed to realize that they made their decision a week ago, just before the olympics were decided.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 8:58am EDT
Thanks, Brett. I read that there were 205 nominees. I wonder how they feel about someone with so little time in any political or leadership role getting this. As I said above, it's a bit like 2007 when Gore got it instead of Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Irena Sendler.
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 10:10am EDT
"Maybe you are too uninformed to realize that they made their decision a week ago, just before the olympics were decided."

If you can't figure out what you just said here, I'm sure not gonna try and explain it to you.........
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 2:54pm EDT
Jeez, since he's winning awards he DOESN'T DESERVE ...

Don't be surprised if he ends up winning being the next Rose Queen on New Year's Day in the Rose Parade.

Next, he'll probably win the Super Bowl all by himself! Heck he might even win the Heisman Trophy, too. If awards can be manipulated for Black Jesus, why not???

He certainly will win the Academy Award for Best Actor--where he can borrow Sally Field's Academy Award speech, "You like me; you realy, really like me!!"
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 9, 2009, 3:17pm EDT
groan - the Obama hate gets downright entertaining in a pea brain sort of way.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:58pm EDT
Hey, I can do this all night, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 8:22am EDT
Those Norwegians on the committee must have gotten a hold of some pretty bad gefilte fish. I hope their recoveries are speedy and they are not too embarrassed when they have realized what they've done. Poor committee. :(
JOHN BECK Oct 9, 2009, 8:27am EDT
Perhaps you mean "lutefisk".
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 8:47am EDT
Dang, did I get my food mixed up again? I hate it when that happens! LOL!

Thanks!
Ms Spunky Spanky ~ Live Free or Die Oct 9, 2009, 8:55am EDT
John, Cathi has been all confused since she saw a fish driving a car!
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 9:11am EDT
Yeah! That was freaky!
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 4:30pm EDT
it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home

Particularly since he is escalating the war in Afghanistan at overwhelming odds.

more like scooped up civilians who looked like the 911 guys

That statement really does our military a disservice. We have the finest military in the world. They don't scoop up civilians just because they look like they are from middle eastern descent. They put their lives in the line, they are highly trained, and they are good at the missions that have been set before them by our government. Both the previous administration and this administration.
Jeannie B. Oct 9, 2009, 5:29pm EDT
If people weren't just "scooped up", why have so few of them actually been brought to court? And why were they in Gitmo so long without even knowing the charges against them or being allowed to see an attorney?

But it's not the military's fault. I agree that they are the finest and deserve much more than just "attaboys" for their great sacrifices.
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 5:40pm EDT
I appreciate your words regarding the military. I can't answer on the fate of those in Gitmo. It depends on the ROE at the time of their capture.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:58pm EDT
Here we go again, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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DIANE D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:32am EDT
I am very proud of him.
Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:48am EDT
So am I.

Go Obama!!! How is this for the "world rejected Obama"?

If they give him a prize, the prize must be a joke. If they don't award him the Olympics, they rejected him. Do you see how dumb and ridiculous your knee jerks conclusions are.

Please.
DIANE D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:52am EDT
So true!~
louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 9:40am EDT
unhinged.
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 10:41am EDT
"If they give him a prize, the prize must be a joke. If they don't award him the Olympics, they rejected him. Do you see how dumb and ridiculous your knee jerks conclusions are."

So, you expected him to get both??
DIANE D. Oct 9, 2009, 10:50am EDT
They did not reject him, Our Country is not so well liked right now.
Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 11:35am EDT
Did not expect him to get a thing. I for one, knew Chicago was a long shot although I did not expect them to be out in round one. What I am saying is your [not you in particular] explanations to benign events are totally dumb. Does not get the olympics is just that. Nothing to extend it to how the world views him or whatever.

If you concluded that it was a world rejection, how do you interpret this? A world 180 turn around show of love and affection for Obama?
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 2:57pm EDT
Political pay-offs and favors sponsored by those who put him forward as president without vetting, and by hiding information about his background, birth, and schooling.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 4:08pm EDT
Really, Misty? That's not what God told me.
Jeannie B. Oct 9, 2009, 5:33pm EDT
OMG Linda! Why doesn't it surprise me that you're a birther?

Misty, for once I agree completely with Marilyn. God loves all his children, and you should be ashamed for saying what you did. It sorrows Him when we fail to follow His plan for us, but God is love -- and He shows His love to all of us.
louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 5:33pm EDT
GOD told you he hates President Obama? LOL
louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 5:34pm EDT
God told you He hates President Obama?
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 7:23pm EDT
Not at all funny, Louis. God even loves non-achievers.
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C A. Oct 9, 2009, 8:35am EDT
This from the same people who gave Jimmy Carter and Al Gore prizes in years past.

It's become, like the UN, a pathetic joke.
Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:49am EDT
But the Olympics are not a pathetic joke yet.

Let's give Bush a nobel prize to restore the prestige. That will do it. NOt.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:59pm EDT
Let's keep it rolling, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 8:37am EDT
Now, all he needs is an Oscar and an Emmy and his mantel will be complete......
Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:43am EDT
He's got one those already too.
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 10:43am EDT
Amazing, ain't it?? Enough money can get ya almost anything........
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Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 8:46am EDT
I think the award was premature. I think he has not done anything to deserve this. He has talked about it plenty.

For most of you right wingers, you would criticize it anyways even if he had done something. You lack objectivity because you even jump at the guy when he coughs. You've become ridiculous and keep talking to each other, agreeing with each other in everything anti Obama.

So, I extremely happy for Obama just thinking about the pain and agony will create in your souls.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 9:01am EDT
No, Alan, if, after serving for 4 years, he had shown some kind of ability to unify and lead, I would have been proud that another of our Presidents received the prize. But not when he's just starting out. He hasn't done anything yet...except talk.
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 9:09am EDT
Well I guess it's pretty clear who is not going to receive a Nobel Peace Prize!
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 10:46am EDT
"For most of you right wingers, you would criticize it anyways even if he had done something."

And you Obamie Zombies would still worship the ground he walked on "anyways" even if he had done nothing.......
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 9, 2009, 11:05am EDT
Obamie Zombies ???
Alan D. Oct 9, 2009, 11:38am EDT
Sorry Marilyn, you don't make up the rules for the nobel prize. They are not funded by your tax dollars and they don't owe you an explanation, and they don't care if you are happy about it or not. You are talking about their group, not the other way around. Yes, they are that important and that's why you are talking about them.

According to THEM, Obama's time in office is totally irrelevant. He could have lost for all they cared.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 7:56pm EDT
Alan, and you don't find that absurd? He's done nothing.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 7:57pm EDT
Misty, I'm sure some day you'll understand the difference between whining and stating facts.
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Ms Spunky Spanky ~ Live Free or Die Oct 9, 2009, 8:53am EDT
I am listening to MSNBC, and surprise! They said something very true: It is too soon for him to have received it. Just on the expectations factor. The pressure in him now will be intense.

I know I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 9:10am EDT
Umm...they look pretty big, you probably wouldn't fit anyway. :)
Ms Spunky Spanky ~ Live Free or Die Oct 9, 2009, 9:21am EDT
*looks at her feet*

I think you're right!
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 3:01pm EDT
Are we talking feet or EARS? Know what they say about big feet.
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 4:31pm EDT
LOL!
Jeannie B. Oct 9, 2009, 5:35pm EDT
Nothing to do with the size of any other appendage?
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 5:47pm EDT
Nah! Well...maybe the..uh...the...uh....nah!
Ms Spunky Spanky ~ Live Free or Die Oct 9, 2009, 5:57pm EDT
*Dying laughing here*
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Juan J Martinez Oct 9, 2009, 9:28am EDT
The haters will find fualt with anything and everything that President Obama will do or say. The haters are like the farmer who complains there is no rain one day and then complain there is too much rain the next. The haters do not need a real reason to tear the man down. Deserving or not, our President was given a prestigous award and as a nation we should be proud of this achievement.
Lee Y. Oct 9, 2009, 10:06am EDT
Juan, it's not an achievment. It's like giving a recalcitrant child an award for promising to clean his room and stop drinking all while he curses his parents for their values which allow him to drink and have a room.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:42am EDT
Frankly, I stopped being impressed with the Nobel Peace Prize when Gore got it instead of Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Irena Sendler as I said above. It's hard to imagine that the 204 other people nominated didn't have more experience at peace and unity than Obama. What a joke.
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 10:50am EDT
"Deserving or not, our President was given a prestigous award...."

Okay, everyone.......Repeat this sentence three times and then think about it..........
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 3:02pm EDT
... a one ana two...
C A. Oct 9, 2009, 3:10pm EDT
Juan...the "haters" of which I proudly call myself a member, have very good reason to be reacting to this the way we are.

If you have to ask what that is, you've dunked your cup into the Kool-Aid one too many times.
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 9, 2009, 3:19pm EDT
Oh my, an "intelligent" Kool-Aid a comment again
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 7:59pm EDT
And again, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Juan J Martinez Oct 9, 2009, 9:30am EDT
It is raining here, that dang Obama is to blame.
Brian T. Oct 9, 2009, 10:16am EDT
It's raining in Chicago too, it's Obama's fault. LOL!
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:43am EDT
Here too. Definitely his fault.
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 3:03pm EDT
he does support chemtrails...
Cathi L. Oct 9, 2009, 4:33pm EDT
Misty, girl, you're spamming by repeating this same comment so many times.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 5:07pm EDT
Thanks, Cathi. I've been telling her that and I've asked that she remove the spam. I really shouldn't have to do that.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 8:00pm EDT
And my response to Misty, again:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 9:39am EDT
kills you don't it! CONGRATS PRESIDENT B.H. OBAMA! WELL DESERVED !
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:43am EDT
For what, louis. Please explain.
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 3:05pm EDT
What "humanitarian" effort did Obama accomplish? We already know how "global" he by his efforts to expand the powers of the Federal Reserve, not to mention Obamacare.
louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 5:35pm EDT
According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."[1] Alfred Nobel's will stated that the prize should be awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Norway and Sweden were at that time still in union, and with Sweden responsible for all foreign policy, Nobel felt that the prize might be less subject to political corruption if awarded by Norway. The Peace Prize is presented annually in Oslo, in the presence of the king, on December 10 (the anniversary of Nobel's death), and is the only Nobel Prize not presented in Stockholm. In Oslo, the Chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee presents the Nobel Peace Prize in the presence of the King of Norway. The Nobel Laureate then receives a diploma, a medal and a document confirming the prize amount.[2] The Nobel Peace Prize Ceremony is held at the Oslo City Hall, followed the next day by the Nobel Peace Prize Concert, which is broadcast to more than 450 million households in over 150 countries around the world. The concert has received worldwide fame and the participation of top celebrity hosts and performers.
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 8:01pm EDT
Still here, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 11:11pm EDT
ACW, be careful with answering Misty's spam comments with an identical answer. Gather might also consider them to be spam.
APE 131313 Oct 10, 2009, 2:07pm EDT
AC W gets a oh so gentle "might"......what a hoot!
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louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 9:45am EDT
BTW the US is more divided than ever? that's because you YOU REPUBLICANS are not in power right now! and it's killing you. You would tear the country apart if you thought it would get you your power back. Marilyn? and for what?

more wars?
tax cuts for the top .01%?
deregulation?
crony capitalism?
mercenaries [you call them contractors]
more alberto gonzales, brownies? rummies? cheneys?
torture?

is that the platform you want? what kind of country do you want? what kind of person are you? and no that is not an attack! it's a question.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:44am EDT
No, it's because this president wants to do everything he can to make sure the government controls our every move.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:44am EDT
And because he's never had to live on a budget and didn't realize that the US should as well.
Juan J Martinez Oct 9, 2009, 11:46am EDT
And the past Republican Presidents came from poor childhoods?
Robert A. Oct 9, 2009, 11:56am EDT
Uh... Louis, Obama hired another 60,000 mercenaries to fight in countries which never attacked us (that makes them illegal wars) and he's expanding "war" into Pakistan. That's moving away from peace, not toward it.
Robert A. Oct 9, 2009, 11:56am EDT
... and I'm not a Republican
Loquacious Linda Oct 9, 2009, 3:07pm EDT
louis- Obama is Bush's third term - he changed NOTHING on your list, but he added a couple more power-grabbing bills; STIMULUS & OBAMACARE.
C A. Oct 9, 2009, 3:12pm EDT
Oh snap!! Louis, you've been smacked!
louis a. Oct 9, 2009, 5:38pm EDT
??????????? never had to live on a budget??????????? what planet are you from?

yes the wealthy son of a an unwed mother? who went to college on merrit and student loans? GOD'S TEATH!

LOL smacked nope. I'm not the one complaining that nothing has changed! if nothing has changed then all of you idiots complaining would revel in a Bush 3rd term!

Bring on Obamacare that's well needed!

Bring out all the troops in Iraq! and in Afghanistan too! is that your position?
Jeannie B. Oct 9, 2009, 5:41pm EDT
No, it's because this president wants to do everything he can to make sure the government controls our every move. " Unlike his predecessor, who only wanted to ignore the First Amendment in favor of warrantless wiretaps, who lied repeatedly to the American people, who financed 2 wars completely "off the books" so he wouldn't have to account for the spending, who approved of torture and rebranded it as "enhanced interrogation" so he wouldn't have to account for his breach of the Constitutional ban against cruel or unusual punishment -- need I go on? Yeah, the current President is sure evil; too bad we don't have a saint like President Bush 43 still in the White House!


AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 8:01pm EDT
I'm not going away, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:35pm EDT
No, Jeannie, the current president is spending money we don't have and not for stimulus - he lied.
louis a. Oct 10, 2009, 12:36pm EDT
????? and the previous president and republican administration bankrupted the country on two wars...looted the treasury for their cronies w/ tax cuts and changed the bankruptcy laws just in time to make sure that anyone whio lost everything had to pay up.....hmmmm

but then again Marilyn they were republican conservatives....LOL
AC W. Oct 10, 2009, 3:38pm EDT
Louis,

The 2001 and 2003 tax cuts lowered marginal tax rates in ALL tax brackets and removed 11 million low income families from the federal income tax rolls. But I'm sure you knew that already, right?
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micky d. Oct 9, 2009, 9:51am EDT
Great news, I heard it at 6am, have not stopped laughing since. Finally justice has come for all the accomplishments this great leader has produced in such a short time.
This is the same-o- liberal pat on the back given to a person who has accomplished Zero-Nada- Nothing, and has made a bad situation worse in every way gets an Award.
Yes, like all Liberals who give us one failed disastrous program after another, they get awards because they care, they meant well who could be against ending poverty?.
I hear Obama is somewhat disappointed, yes. He is wondering why the entire Nobel body were not present at the announcement to say.
Nobel Prize goes to
Barack Hussein Obama
UMM-UMM-UMM!
Time for the Nobel Peace Prize- replica- to be put into a box of Cracker-jacks.
This is hill-arious.
Barack, you get a million dollars with this prize-What charity are you and Michelle giving it to?.
Too bad Yasser that's my baby Arafat has passed on to Hell- You could have had a beer with him at the White House- a peace summit beer.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:45am EDT
Crazy, isn't it?
AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 8:02pm EDT
Still going, Misty....

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Lee Y. Oct 9, 2009, 10:01am EDT
Wonder if he'll use the money to help pay down the debt he's helped to create?

kokomo *. Oct 9, 2009, 10:06am EDT
Maybe he'll use it to pay down some of the debt George W. Bush created.

Lee Y. Oct 9, 2009, 10:41am EDT
Either way ...
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:46am EDT
Kokomo, you do realize that Obama has created more debt than any president in such a short time, don't you. That's not Bush's fault.
''The One & Only BERF .. Oct 9, 2009, 10:53am EDT
"Maybe he'll use it to pay down some of the debt George W. Bush created."

It won't be enough money to keep Michelle in shoes for a week.......
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 9, 2009, 11:07am EDT
It's always a matter of time and the wife gets dragged into the mock fest.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 4:10pm EDT
I'm so tired of anyone who doesn't like Obama's policies or who questions his lack of any experience being called racist.

Like Grandma always said, those who accuse are exactly what they accuse. I do believe she was right.
Jeannie B. Oct 9, 2009, 5:43pm EDT
"Kokomo, you do realize that Obama has created more debt than any president in such a short time, don't you. That's not Bush's fault. " It is when the biggest reason the debt is so much higher now is that President Obama put the Iraq and Afghanistan wars on the books for the first time, while President Bush had successfully kept the off the books for so long.


AC W. Oct 9, 2009, 8:02pm EDT
Just for you, Misty:

"obama is running two wars in iraq and afghanistan — but those are not his doing...."

Afghanistan is the result of an attack on our country, in case you forgot. It's not like Bush just woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll attack Afghanistan."

Iraq is the result of 12 years of Iraqi defiance of UN resolutions. Iraqi air defense gunners fired on our pilots daily as they attempted to enforce UN mandated no fly zones. Saddam Hussein initiated two wars against neighboring states and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. He also used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. He was a ruthless dictator and I have no problem with his removal, except for the timing. There were plenty of valid reasons to get rid of him, but the timing was poor.

"bush and company started that and it is gonna take some time b4 he can pull them back home"

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan. He's not pulling anyone back home. As for Iraq, the removal of our troops was negotiated by Bush and signed into an agreement while Bush was still President. Obama has taken no action other than to continue the plan put in place by Bush.

"he banned torture...."

Torture was already against U.S. law before Obama took office. His ban was meaningless. That said, there are people who broke that law and deserve to be prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that torture was acceptable U.S. policy until Obama came along.

"...and other extreme interrogation techniques...."

Did you notice that Obama included a caveat when he restricted interrogations to the U.S. Army Field Manual? That caveat said his administration reserved the right to use "enhanced" interrogation techniques if the ones in the manual proved to be insufficient.

"he has pushed for peace between the israelis and palestinians...."

As has every president since 1948. Nothing new here.

"can't we all agree this is a good thing?"

It is. But it is unrealistic. By the way, Obama is not the first president to call for a nuclear free world.

"battling climate change is a priority....another good thing"

The science is unsettled on how much humans are responsible for climate change, and any US action is pointless unless we get the Chinese and Indians to go along--both of which, by the way, have said "Thanks, but no thanks."

"obama set down new ways in which the U.S. works with the world especially with those who bush and company accused of being the axis of evil...."

Interestingly enough Obama has kept in place Bush's demand that Iran cease the enrichment of uranium before engaging in talks. No difference here either, Misty.
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Brian T. Oct 9, 2009, 10:14am EDT
Congrats to President Barack H. Obama of the United States of America. This places him in the company of Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King; that's pretty good company.
Marilyn M. Oct 9, 2009, 10:47am EDT
And that's exactly what makes it absurd. Even he cannot possibly think he's in the same class or has made a mark on the world like they did.
Peter Joseph Swanson Oct 9, 2009, 11:25am EDT
Hate hardens hearts and blinds.