A post was written about the N word. I responded. I was treated as a racist.

geeze I remember that clip, it was funny I dont see why anyone would go all crazy about it.

I wonder what part of "Treat each other with respect and love then maybe we could get along" she didn't understand.........

Not a clue..... =(

Good for you Cindy. This has gone on far too long. The skit is called Word Association and yes, it's funny, but it was also groundbreaking during it's time. Showing racist comments and anger. It was very relevant to that post but you and I never got a chance to talk about it. Now with all the pings being flung at you and pings to ME on YOUR page, and comments on other posts referring to us as racists and calling out our "hatred," it's getting pretty bad.

Yes, it is bad. I wrote this post because my husband encouraged me to stand up for myself as well as you Cathi. He could not beleive that this happened to begain with. =(

I remember the skit well, too.... and actually, some of the name-calling was ad lib, and it was monumental in provoking a 'real' response from Richard Pryor. He said in an interview that his ire was not pretend, even though he knew that it was precisely what the skit was about, but he said it was difficult to not 'lose his cool' throughout the sequence.

How does liking this skit make one a racist?

Pryor had ire?

Well, he certainly appeared pissed off, didn't he? lol

I especially liked the quivering sneer at the end. :)

oh geeze....flagged......

I am glad that you and Cathi are standing up for yourself.... Some people are so thin skinned ...

Oh that didn't take long. Contact Gather member support.

I refuse to contact Gather member support. I will let them take the flag down in there own sweet time. I have not harassed anyone. If I had...WE all would have heard it by now... I am keeping my temper. Had I lost my temper I still would not have been harassing anyone. I simple would have sang the I-95 song by Jimmy Buffett! =) Were you born an A-hole.....Ect.

She does have the right to delete anything she wants on her posts. That being said, it would have been nice, albeit not required but nice, to have sent a message to you and/or I to address the situation.

What IS wrong would have to be the continuous commentary on that same post of accusations. The accusations have gone from not wanting a "joke" on her post to now she is protecting little children from us.

All of the nasty pings. The inclusion of her friend to start the pings. The comments from her on other people's posts about what a horrible thing was done.

It would seem less stressful to actually ask about the video and discuss with us than to create fictional stories and spread them far and wide.

I read all the pings and her article I seen nothing nasty about her pings.

She has a right to delete she did not mention who got deleted . It looks like you are starting something that could have been just dropped. You kept it going and now look you opened a can of worms that did not need to be opened. So Cattie!!

Thank you for sharing your opinion.

So Pagan, who exactly are you refering to in your above comments?

I can't believe this! This is horrible Cindy. I don't blame you for standing up for yourself!

People are way too over sensitive....

Very difficult to get the video - Viacom has a suit, for example....

I never saw that particular skit, I don't think.

It fit with the post. She took it wrong, and here we are now..... =(

Worst of all she would not even allow me or Cathi to explain. Next thing we know all this crap....Yeah, I am ticked off! =(

The skit wasn't just Richard Pryor getting called the 'N' word and other derogatory racial terms, but he was flinging the same types of terms right back at Chevy Chase. And it was a milestone, as it addressed the racial tension, and how seemingly non-specific, socially used terms can have a negative effect on the person hearing himself called these things.

Thank you Ferosh. That aspect has been neglected. Yes, Pryor was flinging them right back!

I found a 'version of it.'

The words on this video are the original Chase and Pryor script. The video is of McCain and Obama, but audio was changed to the original Chase and Pryor script.

I do remember having seen it at the time, and afterward....

I do remember feeling at the time - before I was in Boston and when I saw it in Boston that it was.....too......

Here

Warning: The above link is to the original Chase and Pryor script but with McCain and Obama in their actual debate last year.

I have never seen the McCain/Obama skit. It had nothing to do with the skit I asked Cathi to add for me. =)

Never saw that one either.

Word Association with Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor on SNL

Thankyou Cathi =)

Yes, thank you for finding it.... it's been awhile.

It's an awesome skit AND no joke.

Yes, I went to ping you tonight and saw your pings. Didn't understand what this person was so upset about with you, lol. So, I go to the post and I still couldn't figure it out because she had deleted all of your comments.
So, thanks for explaning this to me. I remember that skit too. Love SNL and that skit was hilarious. No reason to bash and harass you for that. I kept seeing " Stop the Hate" pings to you, lol. I don't see where you were doing anything hateful at all. Hats off to you for standing up to this crap.

Kim it is very hard to stand up for yourself on here, unless people do the research. Comment's that you make that are deleted are still in your comment box. If they look, they will see if you did something wrong. Before someone is accused of being a racist and then be judged. I would take it upon myself to find out by looking at such thing's....I myself find this not only an eye opener, but also one that has made me sick to my stomach!!!

I keep forgetting that the comments are in your comment box.

Three guesses who flagged your article.....

(And the first two don't count.......)

The skit was/is funny!

They DO come out of the woodwork, don't they? Cockroaches !

It's really too bad that 'some' don't have a clue and even if they did, they wouldn't know what to do with it.

It just isn't worth losing any time or sleep over....

^5 MC

Cindi this will pass. People just misread, or forget this is 2D and there is a 3D person on the other side...

Comments regarding the Word Association skit:

RIP Richard Pryor... You taught me that people can be socially conscious and entertaining at the same time.

The greatest SNL Skit was from 1975 and starred Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor and was called "Word Association". It was by far the most cutting edge skit on the show and is beyond hilarious.


Sad commentary: Today probably more of George Carlin's "7 words you cannot say on television" can now be said on TV than the words used in "Word Association"

Word Association (first aired on December 13, 1975)
Most television shows like to play it safe during their first year, but during its inaugural season, SNL put on one of the ballsiest and most shockingly hilarious sketches ever written. It was a simple premise, in which an HR rep interviews a black man using a word association questionnaire that quickly devolves into both of them screaming racial slurs at each other. What made this skit truly amazing was the brilliant delivery of the lines by Chevy Chase and guest host Richard Pryor as they slowly transition from cool professionalism to blind rage. I know that the word “brilliant” is rarely attributed to Chevy, but his performance here is really remarkable, as was Pryor’s. ”Word Association” is a great indication of just how daring SNL was. This sketch would never make it on the air nowadays, but thank God NBC gave it the green-light back in 1975.

Everyone that knows you Cindy, knows better. You are not a racist or a hateful person. FAR from it!

I just went to your comments and saw the one tht she deleted. ?, WTH? something wrong with a person who takes offense at what you wrote. That makes no sense at all. Just a question to see if anyone had seen that skit. No reason at all for this blowup over a SNL skit.
enough said.

I have seen it, who flagged this? I know you are not racist, HUGS~

Oh for goodness sakes, I think someone owes you an apology.

You do not have to defend yourself.

A SNL skit is just that "a skit"...come in late from partying, watch the show in a daze and laugh at everything,even though some of it was not funny. (except for the belushi, ackroyd, curtin, radner, chase, morris etc..crew... they were very funny!)

Sorry you are going thru this. Just hang in there.

The skit I remember well....and was surprised...but the key point about the skit is how it brought people's underlying thoughts to the forefront...

Personally I don't think it is okay for one race to use a word but not another. There will always be fights and arguements if it is allowed to happen that way.

Plain and simmple the word needs to go. But I don't see it happening any time soon.

personally i am tired of all the days and weeks of races getting their day if ask for a day we are racist.....however i dont think it is right for people to say things mean

what makes any race better than others this i will never understand

oh no ! lol I won't even say a word on this one !

Hey! That only makes us more interested in what you have to say! lol

I'm always interested in what hotties have to say! lol Wait, can I say hottie? Is that a slur? I certainly hope not.:)

Well, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.......

Wait, did I just get ducks mad at me?

QUACK!!!!!


I take that as a yes..... lol

In answer to the question about why it's okay for blacks to call each other the 'N' word, and not anyone else can be paralleled with the reason it's okay for women to call each other 'bitches' or 'whores', but not for another man to call her that.

exactly........
unless you're real tight with your homeeeees....
we pass it around pretty regularly, but we all did work our butts off together....

BTW---
I am that grain of salt in the pepper shaker....

The only way to totally erradicate some word if for everyone to stop using it. To allow some and disallow others is in itself a racial act.

Suddenly, calling people racist is the new way to shut up any debate. President Obama asked for discussion on race, but some people just can't debate without name calling. I'd blow it off, and move on. You're just sensitive. People who call others racists are the racists. As for blacks calling themselves the N word, it's not all right. I'm Italian and if someone of any heritage called me a name like wop, they'd have to find their teeth. Name calling is wrong and demeaning, and it needs to stop. People who want respect must respect themselves first.

I remember the original skit. It made me uncomfortable then and it still does. That was another time and another era in America and boundries were being tested. If I'm not mistaken I think this type of humor soon died out and they started making fun of the Pollocks again or some other minorirty (cheap laughs). I stopped watching SNL several years ago when they began to bore the phooey out of me. (Will I get flagged for writing the word phooey?)

Don't worry about the unwanted reaction. Some people will react to anything. You gotta have a thick skin to dare to go where you went. Chin up, you can take it. We live in a very race sensative world and you probably hurt some unsophisticated feelings.

Cindi, I am so sorry this happened to you. I don't know you well, but Cathi is one of the gems (so is Lee!) of Gather!

Yes they are! =)

I remember that skit, although I didn't see it the first time around; a little before I was born. I thought it was funny, while making a very important point; and I actually wish we saw more things like that on TV today. As for it being ok for someone black to call another black person the "N" word: I don't care for it, whoever is using it; but think I get the distinction. ( as much as someone can who's never had to deal with it) I think some black people are maybe using it, to kind of take the sting out of it; to take away the power the word has to demean, humilliate; and dehumanize people.

I think it's maybe something similar to women using the "B" or "C" word amongst themselves, they reclaim power; by stripping away the negative meaning assigned to the words.

I think you are right..... =)

I don't remember the SNL skit but I am sure they make important points.

You are right, Ellen. Remember how in the Harry Potter books they always called Voldemort "he who must not be named?" That gave Voldemort power that Harry refused to honor.

I am not so sure about the name calling, though. I am, however, glad that Cindy and Cathi have maintained their friendship.

Cathi and my friendship was never in question =/ ? As far as Harry Potter books..I love those books and they have been put down badly by people saying they were teaching kids in a wrong way or beleif. Those books are great, and I see no reason not to read them to your kid's... =)

Gotcha, Cindy.

I agree that the Harry Potter books have been given a bad rap by a few groups. They are always here.

Name calling is never a good thing.

HH

I'm not really familiar with the harry potter books, never read one; and have never watched a whole movie all the way through- not my kind of thing- although my sister in law is a big fan. I think more power is given to something when it's harped on, and pushed against though.

Precisely.

HH

I have never seen this skit, i will go look it up

Cindy,, dont let people who call you names on here get you down... If you do, they will do it every time and they will win... Let them think or make up whatever.. You dont owe them any explanation.... I sometimes think, that most on here create more than one account, so you are arguing with them and they are made up... Not real,, this is why, I usually dont come back to get into it with them....
I dont give a good crap what they think of me.. I have said, this
before..... God knows whats in my heart , not these people unless, they are psychic.. If they are, they should be getting a paycheck for it and I dont see this happening....lol
When they start paying my bills and keeping me, then I will care what they say, but until then... just sit back and laugh at them... because this is all they have... it will go nicely with their single digit IQs.....
In the meantime, keep coming up with those good comments that you put out there....

Its still only a word. A group could pick any word and infuse it with "special powers to offend." It would still be just a word. You have to hypnotize yourself into having the reaction to it you do. No matter what the word is.

Future generations are going to look back at this as a dark intellectual age because of stuff like that. "Unspeakable words" ridiculous.

I agree!!! =)

I love you momma <3

I love you too baby girl =)

I just watched it. I always thought those two guys were hilarious. :)
To me it is a skit that shows how the racial slurs go back and forth and how people who are doing that sound like kids arguing over something stupid. It's like a humorous way to call attention to a problem and try to help stop it. If that makes any sense, I just got up.

It makes total sence Abby! =)

Geeeee why can't we all just be Americans

So sorry this happend Cindy.

Thankyou =) I am sorry it happened too. Most of all I am sorry people just disconnected to me with out even reviewing or realizeing who I am. It made me very sad. Then I realized they connected/joined me as a friend with out ever reading anything I wrote or even careing about me to begain with. To disconnect from me is fine, but don't do it just because someone said I was evil in one form or another. Then again if the person is that foolish, please do disconnect. =)

WHERE WAS I WHEN THIS WAS GOING ON????

You missed it, Amy. I am so sorry.

Since SHE deleted your comments, they are STILL in your list of comments. BUT in your deleted comments area.
On your home page, go to "MY comments, and click on that. WHen THAT page comes up, one can click on all,declined and removed. Once you click on removed, you will be able to share your comments and show why your "foe" is wrong.

I don't know what happened but ppl are so quick to get their feather ruffled.
It gets stupid sometimes.
HH

Absolutely.

HH

Don't let your energy be sucked away by the drama. It's not worth it.

HH