The Left is Attempting To Indoctrinate Your Kids

Yeah, I saw that on the Glenn Beck show the other day. I asked my children if they seen it yet. They have not. I told them to tell me if they try to show that to them.

I told mine the same thing

Like it or dislike it (and, as I suspect, this is about liking or disliking the producers), this is a good place to start the discussion.

As to the indoctrination of kids, a teacher wrote this -- maybe a bad idea. We do, however, have lots of songs written about lots of people living and past. Use it for the beginning of a discussion if you listen. Let's make things that happen work rather than just griping.

That is True Debra, However, we do not force our kids to sing them. Kim Jong Ill, Hugo Chavez, and Fidel Castro, and many more all have the children in school singing songs about them. Is that what we want here? Forced indoctrination.

Thanks for the heads up. A NEWSPAPER REPORT SAYS THE VIDEO HAS HAD SIX MILLION HITS SINCE IT WAS FIRST PUBLISHED ON THE WEB. The Newspaper is the New York Times.

One School? District, Missoula, Montana, prohibited the video from class room use. You have every right to be distressed that a negative view of unbridled consumerism is being fostered by anyone. BUT remember the right of free speech extends to all or none.

"distressed that a negative view of unbridled consumerism is being fostered"

HUH? There is a positive aspect to "unbridled consumerism"?
You are trying to be funny, right?

Hey Karl, then I can go into my local schools and teach those kindergarteners a couple of songs about how President Bush is our hero, he kept us safe from all harm for 8 years! Yes, Freedom of speech to indoctrinate other's little kids,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLBE5QAYXp8&feature=player_embedded I tried to watch that thing and quit. She starts with lie and never quits.

There is a lot of crap on You Tube and a lot of good informative information. One has to determine if it is fact or fantisy, just like in the news.

Where is the video being shown in schools?

Nippy, the New York Times says it is popular with teachers and students and provides a couple of examples in this article.

both the left and the right are trying to indoctrinate our children as are any political, social, and economic group. It is your job to find out what is being fed to the kids, and to let them know your own point of view. They will grow and make up their own minds. For everyone fooled by one video is another fooled by a contrary video.
Talk to you kids, let them see the videos, but make sure they can tell for themselves what is right or wrong.

Responsible parenting? Yes!!!

Yep...ya gotta keep an eye out for Indoctrination! Oooooh! God forbid that anyone try to tell our children that unbridled consumerism and debt are bad. We need to stand up and make sure they become slaves to the corporations just like 95% of all Americans. We need to keep their little heads at the trough like good little piggies, just like Mom and Dad!

David E
is correct
Our local public school was really bad so, I sent my children to the only good private school nearby, a Christian school, we had the daily de-programming on the way home. It became a game.

But I had to be careful, it was important for them to respect these teachers they already liked.

The school had an excellent academic program and wonderful music program and excellent behavior standards.

Yeah, like Spartan said, they must sit down with mom and dad and get the real story, the highest truth direct from the FOXes mouth.

When I was in grade school the history textbooks gave a sympathetic picture of things like manifest destiny and the imperialism of the late 19th and early 20th century. It wasn't visual aids or guest speakers. It was the textbooks.

Textbooks are controlled by the govt too. They will only get "approved" textbooks printed by their corporatist friends.

My daughters have been aware of these things and keep on top of everything. I suggest parents, who cannot home school, just continue their education when they get home. Discuss what they learned - look at their books - and for heavens sake, get them to reading the classics too.

great article thanks!

Thanks for brining this to everyone's attention. We're getting closer and closer to the old communist regime's indoctrination...

Next they'll focus on alienating children from their parents. I'm glad mine are grown.

I read an article somewhere showing the college entrance scores in comparison and the "home schoolers" were consistently high!

I read an article somewhere that says you are full of crap about "home schooled" children having high college entrance scores. I also read an article somewhere that says home schooled children have great difficulty adapting once they do enter a classroom filled with educated students...LOL

Not to mention the article that I read somewhere that said what losers home schooled pupils are when they go into the work force.

Or maybe I wrote that one? It's out there somewhere.

Even if home schoolers do achieve high scores, many can't make anything of it in the workplace because they haven't developed the social skills to function well within an organization.

You turn on the TV period or get on the internet and children and adults are trying to be indoctrinated into one theology or another. A lot of this is just non sense. If anything I am going to teach my child to think for himself and not believe everything he hears or sees.

Indoctrination? LMAO
WHAT do you think Faux News is all about?

~~~~~FAUX FOX~~~~~~~~~
Are you telling me you doubt their version of what is?
~~~~~~~giggles~~~~~~~~~~


AUX

Mugg If Fox News said the sky was blue and the grass was green, you would be screaming about their Lies. You have blurred their news reporting with their commentators. Also, you have ignored the fact that they have been attacking Republicans almost as much as the Dems. MSNBC actually came in as the most biased news outlet in a recent poll (I think it was by Pew.) CNN is actually starting to run some of the stories that Fox is, probably because their ratings have been going down.

Your Problem is, that you hate Fox so much, because they are not willing to be manipulated by the progressive agenda. Again, if the message is right, it doesn't matter the messenger.

"Your Problem is, that you hate Fox so much, because they are not willing to be manipulated by the progressive agenda"

Not exactly.

I hate Faux because it is the mouthpiece for Rupert Murdoch (you want a good candidate for the antichrist? He is Satan's right hand man). They are extremely good at influencing people with no intellect.

I second this.
Isn't it funny the anti-immigrant Republican voter base are given their marching orders by a foreigner?

"If Fox News said the sky was blue and the grass was green, you would be screaming about their Lies."

Fox News reports some facts every day. It's the old broken clock gag in action.

Those folks so influenced by FOX deserve exactly what they get ... the worst ... they are just too ignorant and stupid to know it yet.

There is poliwonk getting all sweated out about ole George.
Above him on Forbes list and far more dangerous are the KOCH OIL brothers,
David & Charles,
Founders of Cato Inst. and PNAC(birthplace of neocons and nearly all
Geo. W. Adminstration)
Funder of Heiritage, Heartland, many other conservative think tanks.
Rupert was once on the board at CATO,
Closely affiliated with Clearwire, owner of Premier Networks, who book all the round the clock AM conservatives on their 5000 radio stations.

Koch brothers (actually 4 of them) Father Fred was Co-founder of the John Birch Society.

Indoctrination hahahahahahaha

I think ole Poliwonk should check Forbes 400 list against the Powerful Conservatives list.

Cena, There are pleanty of liberals on that list too.

If there are politically active Liberals on the Forbes 400 list, why do conservatives only list George S?

Here is another politically active conservative name.
Walton Family

Conservative
Ronald Perelman


Conservative
Ray Hunt



So don't you think you ought to find a few more names than poor ole George Soros?

Way to go Cena ... the truth scares the crap out of those folks.

The truth is their "base" can't handle too much "information"
They keep the dialog to a few simple key words to whip up outrage

Liberal, but none of them know what a political or social liberal really is.
They also think social and economic conservaties are the same.

These all mean the same thing to the base, socialst, communist, facism, Nazism, Markism. They don't know what any of these words mean.

Acorn, even though there are hundreds of social / political groups helping low income people and who have grants from the Government for certain work. (This is actually a result of Conservative/Republican demand to outsource jobs from the gov. payroll.)
So any one of the talkers only has to mention a few words to get the heads nodding and screaming.

Defunding ACORN might be a great first step. Next, we can take back all that money we give churches through tax tax breaks and the sham of "faith-based" programs.

Many businesspeople recognize the need for financial literacy. George Soros may not hold the political views that everyone likes, but this video is much more about that than anything else. Our children are not grasping very important concepts such as the US Constitution or how the American experiment has reshaped world events. This video is an attempt to initiate conversations about those things.

The truth that critics don't like is that it is also an attempt to change the current indoctrination of children that is happening. Our conservatives have won the message. They are pro-business and have confused people with nonsense about who creates jobs and who pays taxes. Most people have bought into this dishonest indoctrination in America. Also, the new vocabulary that censors any information about civil rights, women's rights, or gay rights has been successful at indoctrinating the most recent generation to believe that these discriminated groups are the problem.

So, having a conversation with the students about President Obama (as has been done for all presidents before him) is hardly indoctrination. But, having a conversation with students about President Obama doesn't fit the agenda of the bullies who demand that we "take our country back!" Of course, it is code for returning to a time when certain groups were favored over other groups. Any talk of treating all persons equally scares the hell out of these ideologues. And, certainly, the children should not have discussions like that. So, who is really forcing indoctrination on children? Is it George Soros who wants to increase knowledge about finances and equal treatment of all? Or, could it be these stingy ideologues who want the children to believe nonsense like the bible is an acceptable academic source in an essay? Finally, like it or not, President Obama is the choice of the voters. Sharing President Obama's words with children isn't less important this time around than it was when George Bush was president.

Double Amen to Joe !!

So very true Joe

I would bet serious money that nearly any documentary/instructional movie shown to school children during the 1970s and 1980s would be named socialistic by every single social conservative the U.S.A. today.

They would probably go tear down the schools. . .
The conservatives first elected Regan in 1980 but didn't really get involved in the schools(except for prayer & evolution) until the 1990s

The social conservatives made many inroads on school boards and with policy decisions during the 1990s, as you point out. On the positive side, school systems are now recognizing the error of allowing this undue influence in schools. It created a serious disrespect for the facts which left unchecked demeans any serious educator's career. There are many discussions occurring these days about who should be making decisions in schools. And, it is refreshing to hear educators claiming that they are the professionals who should be making these far reaching decisions. I think it bodes well for the future of our children who have been allowed to believe that opinions trump facts for over twenty years at some schools. We owe this serious error in education to the social conservatives who convinced so many highly educated people that opinions should be taught as equal to verifiable data. It is high time for a serious adjustment in education. I think that it is happening quite quickly.

I heard about this on Glenn Beck and a little outraged. What ever happened to letting the students decide for themselves and having a say in matters like this?? As a parent, I've fought with my daughter's school over not giving that right to the kids as if the teachers know what is best for my children. This is going a bit far for me personally since this is something between the parents and the child(ren) to discuss, not the schools and the child(ren) to decide for them.

If Glenn Beck and Shaun Hannity say it ... it must be the gospel ... uh huh - sure thing.

"As a parent, I've fought with my daughter's school over not giving that right to the kids as if the teachers know what is best for my children."

Certainly, parents are the ultimate teachers of children, Diana. Teachers should not be teaching children about matters of personal values or religion, for example. But, good teachers teach many perspectives: even perspectives that parents disagree with. It is necessary for an adequate education. If all that a child or young person learns in school reinforces parental beliefs, it is indoctrination. If children and young people are asked to consider many different points of view and build their skills on that as a framework for learning, it is education. Schools should be in the business of educating students. Sharing the words of a leader, such as President Obama, or experts, such as scientists, teaches students to think critically. Denying students these experiences teaches students to be closed minded which will never serve anyone well.

Joe T. exactly, ."Schools should be in the business of educating students."

How was spending hours teaching kindergartens to memorize two songs and a chant, better than hours (not spent) on numbers, shapes, sight words, and children's books?

Discussing differing views is an important ingredient in a good and wholesome education, Nora. Kindergarten children spend much of their time singing songs and chants. It is part of the curriculum.

I would recommend that you read my entire comment instead of cherry picking one line. Of course, you can't do that. It doesn't serve your agenda.

It seems to boil down to either joining real people in the real world in common cause or, alternatively and cowardly, sucking their blood and pretending one's not licking boot. We're all idoctrinated for good or for ill but I don't think you know what you're writing about, multiwank. You should be ashamed.

Be careful what you wish for, Dorian.

Oh my, my, my!! The children might actually be "thinking!" What a radical concept!!!!!

Indoctrination in schools?

How about the Pledge of Allegiance? Isn't that indoctrination?

Robert, if you don't like the pledge perhaps you would be more comfortable in another country. I "believe with my heart" that America is the greatest country on earth. Yes, it has flaws. I bet you do too!

Nora, the point isn't whether I like the Pledge, it whether the Pledge is a form of indoctrination. It clearly is. Kids as young as five, are required (at least we were when I was in school) to recite a script while facing a symbol and holding a hand over their heart. If five year old kids in Iran or China were required to pledge allegiance to the Iranian or Chinese government by a daily recitation of words, would you not call that indoctrination?

This article would have some credibility if, instead of complaining about who paid for the video and who hosts it, you actually gave examples of alleged misinformation. Just because somebody disagrees with you on certain issues, even many issues, doesn't mean they will always be wrong about everything. Therefore, the facts, the details need to be looked at to draw an informed conclusion rather than a knee-jerk, politically-motivated attack. You are using one of the lowest forms of criticism, guilt by association in the absence of facts. Maybe you are right, but I doubt you would know the truth. You certainly didn't become indoctrinated with excellent grammar in your own education. What else did you miss? Maybe science? How's your knowledge of evolution? What about atmospheric chemistry?