Bath Time Photos Prompt Child Porn Allegations

Yeah, this is why they should have printed photos at home. The city, state and government would like nothing more than to break up all families around America. Like I said, if you give them an inch, they will take well over a mile and destroy your life in the process.

All families have to be on our guard today.

Thank goodness for a level headed Judge

well my daughters are pornographers then, they sent me pics of the babies in the bath.

The thought here is that perhaps the prosecuter's mother should be put on the stand and see if she has any "bath time" photos of him. Sheesh I remember my folks having a pciture of my brother and me together in a bathtub and all we had covering us was bubbles. What is the world coming to?!?

and it cost them their jobs and over $75K in court costs. I would sue.

according to the article they are suing. the state, the police, the attorny-generals offce and WAL-f***ing-Mart.

yes and I hope they win big. Two of my daughters use to work the photo lab at our walmart. You wouldn't believe some the smut brought in. They knew the diff between bathtub pics and smut.

Boy would my ex be in trouble. Our son used to hate clothes. As soon as he was old enough to figure out how to take them off, he did, every chance he got. The cutest picture we have of him is strutting around the back yard naked except for a Hawaiian lei around his neck at about 15 months of age. My own childhood photo albums have pictures of me being bathed in the sink and one of me with some cousins - male and female - all taking a bath together in an old claw-footed bath tub.

I saw the one about the cons going to the fair on Good Morning America this morning. How stupid are the folks at the hospital to think of that? Unbelievable. How stupd. They deserve to spend some time in the hospital as a patient!

no they should be forced to have one those violent patients they think needs a day out stay at their house.

there had been a movie very like this years ago.
If these were digital prints - why not just print them at home.
So MANY people are really stupid and don't understand what normal is.

I hope they win too, it has been a long time thing many parents do. So sad.

But what most people don't realize is anyone can make claims in family court and you can run up a big bill like we did trying to keep custody of my two children. It was horrible, the court system was misused and the court was lied to over and over...and each time we had to pay our lawyer to go in and show that what was said was lies, like they had no idea who our lawyer was. Our lawyer would go in and present documentation that they did...so any ex-parte order was set aside.

They continued their quest for years. Twice in NY they convinced different judges to issue a warrant for my arrest. Both times the Judge rescinded the warrants as they were issued because of lies. The second time the Judge told my ex mother in law that she committed a felony in interfering with my custody and if she interfered again, he would personally see she severed the max sentence.

We went through thousands of dollars to maintain my custody. It was a hard pill to swallow but this is how our court systems are set up. We are indeed guilty until proven innocent.

That is what happened to these people and I hope they win a lot in damages along with the money they had to shell out and the loss of income.

There are people that are over zealous and don't care who is hurt by what they do. My ex and his mother on two different occasions took my children interstate without my permission. They had a habit of doing what ever they thought was right whether it was illegal or not. Now the laws are different, but even so we don't realize how things can ruin lives for no good reason.

Hubby has a friend lose his kids for several years and it took home a quarter of a mil to get them back. All because the boy lied because dad wouldn't let him go somewhere. That was proven a lie fast but they still refused to give the kids back. Now he is suing the state, but that will take years.

I hope WalMart realizes that it should set a policy that requires at least two people agree something is problematic before calling the police. What a stupid mess.

The walmart where my two daughters works has such a policy. The associate can't call the cops, they have to take the pics to the office. They are also told, and my oldest daughter said a bit sarcasticly, there is a differance between tub pics and porn and our super told us to use "common sense" with these pics.

Glad to hear at least one WalMart has this policy. Picture developers have been one of the stops against porn, but determining if someone should have a criminal complaint potentially filed should be made at management level .... not minimum wage. This is about liability for the employer, not intelligence of the employee --- and it has been announced this couple is (rightly) suing WalMart.

I hope they do win the suit but even doing so will never give them the year back that they missed in their children's lives.

I would have to know the process Wal-Mart went through before judging whether it was right or wrong in this situation.

For example, if Wal-Mart never did anything with naked photos of children it saw, then we would be slamming Wal-Mart when some innocent kid got molested or worse and Wal-Mart did nothing about it. The potential liability to Wal-Mart for doing nothing is pretty great. Wal-Mart might have asked its attorneys for a legal opinion as to what to do with these particular photos, and its legal counsel might have said report them to law enforcement. In that case, Wal-Mart would simply be acting on the advice of counsel, which would be a complete defense. The article doesn't say whether Wal-Mart is claiming that it relied on the advice of counsel or not.

Well from what I read, they imediately turned the pics over to authorities, I don't know if it was this person who did or if that person went to their superiors. There is suppose to be a chain of command in doing these things and if that person followed it then a whole lot of people at Walmart over reacted. If that person called cops on their own, they should be fired for not following the chain.

If that person called the cops on their own, true. But, what if it turned out that the employee who saw the pictures first went to his or her superior at the company, such as the manager of the store. Then assume that the manager of the store called the corporate office and asked them what to do, and the corporate office, in turn, asked Wal-Mart's lawyers. The lawyers said report it to the authorities. In that case, would you still say Wal-Mart did something wrong?

Well, from all I have read so far they keep saying the employee turned it over to the police. They never once mentioned any upper management. It so sounds like the employee made the assumption and that leaves everybody liable.

There is nothing wrong with innocent pictures of babies and young toddlers in the bathtub or playing without clothes. These pics usually go into private family albums of kids growing up. They certainly aren't sold or passed around! They are innocent forms of art and not porn. When our kids were little professional photographers wanted to take pictures of them in only a diaper on a fuzzy rug. In the pictures, they looked like they had nothing on--but they were just little babies at the time. We have delivery room photos of our babies at the moment of birth and, surprise, they weren't born with clothes on!

I have two daughters who worked in the photo lab at our walmart. I asked them what they thought. They told me that when they started they were told they would see pics of nude children taken by parents and to use discression. They both said you could tell the diff between innocent bath pics and other. You won't believe some the "bad" stuff people try to get developed.

They aren't allowed to print things like pics of sex and when they turn the negatives back to people they are surprised, you looked? Well ya, they have to look during the developing process.

They both said they never had any bathtub scenes that made them think porn and thought this person over reacted.

I have a pic taken, by the studio, in walmart, of kaylyn in a wooden tub. she looks named. Now, that would turn a perv on, but it was taken with taste and for fam.

the world is going crazy

Again, I ask you, what if Wal-Mart never reported any pcitures it developed to anyone? As yourself: what would happen if Wal-Mart developed some pictures of naked children and it was later discovered that the person who took those pictures had been molested the children? What if that freak Garrido had taken naked pictures of the children borne by the girl he imprisoned in his back yard for all of those years and Wal-Mart developed them without saying anything to anybody? The public would be outraged. We would be angry at the Wal-Mart employee who developed those pictures and did nothing. And Wal-Mart's potential liability would be limitless.

This is where common sense comes in. They showed 4 of the eight pictures in question on TV, they were pics of the kids in towels with their dad. If that's porn arrest 90% of all parents now.

This is about people not using common sense. My own daughters have come across pics like that when they worked at Walmart. They were told if in doubt call a super. It looks like this employee who called the cops did so on her or his own. They have shown 4 of the pics on TV, I have pics like that of my kids, I have naked pics of my kids in the tub. These people lives were nearly ruined because one employee took it upon them self to make the call. Thats where policy comes in. If enough people had looked over the pics then maybe common sense would have played and Walmart wouldn't be in this position.

Now, even if walmart is not culpable in this, the state and the child protection that over reacted on this are. I have seen in my state where kids have died because they wouldn't pull them from a clearly abusive situation, and then take kids out of a home based on very flimsy evidence that later was over turned.

Most places have policies in place where if you think something is wrong, you follow that policy and let it move up the chain of command. It doesn't sound like that happened here. They keep saying the employee called the cops. The employee made the sole decision. Thats where Walmart is liable, they have to make sure their employees know the policies.

I agree with you that pcitures of kids in the bath are not porn. My mom and dad took pictures of my brother and I playing in the bathtub wehen we were little and we look at them and laugh now.

I am just saying I really doubt that one Wal-Mart employee did this without any other Wal-Mart personnel knowing anything about it. It would be very unusual if the employee at the cash register charging customers when they pick up their pictures called the police without telling anybody else what he or she was doing. And I really don't know anything about what Wal-Mart tells its employees. You might, since you have daughters who work there, but assuming that your daughters don't work at this particular store, you really don't know what this store's management told its employees about company policy. You just can't assume that Wal-Mart doesn't tell its employees the company's policy. And you can't assume that the employee was told of the policy and ignored it, either. We just don't know....Of course, we will know once the witnesses are deposed during discovery in the litigation. Those are absolutely relevant questions that the lawyers will be focusing on, for sure. But, to say right now that we know Wal-Mart didn't tell the employee the company policy is pretty much a jump, isn't it?

I am also curious to know why the four pictures were not shown on TV. Maybe they were somehow different than the others.

We will never know, Walmart is taking the company line now. It wasn't a cashier who turned them in, it was the tech who developed the pics. All walmarts are diff in how well they are run. Ours is very screwed up in some sense and my daughters, who have both quit there because of how screwed up the upper management is, have seen employees do things they shouldn't without higher permission. Who knows. As for policies, they have this thing about not pointing out policies a lot of the time till somebody does something wrong and gets caught, then they cover their asses. It's not just Walmart does that but most retail places I ever worked are same way.

Wither Walmart upper management did the deed or the employee did, its obvious somebody if not several over reacted. Maybe they were just doing what the law said to do. Fine then a judge will vindicate them. But, the state went way over board and I think they are the ones who should pay for what they did to this family.

The four not shown on tv were nude pics of the kids. Nude don't mean porn, they took them when the kids were getting out of the tub.

I worked at Thrifty's (now Rite-Aid) for a while when I was still in school, and what I noticed there is that the company would give all new hires a big stack of paperwork, including the company's policies, and tell them to sign something saying that they read it before they could start work. Well, of course, nobody applying for a job scooping ice cream at Thrifty's is going to read a stack of papers a foot high, so they just sign the thing saying that they read it so they can start working. And then, after that employee has been working at the company for a while, they move out of the ice cream department and over to the photo department or to the pharmacy. And that's when the company's policies and procedures may be needed, but the employee doesn't know them. Not because the company didn't tell them, but because the employee chose not to read them.

And the lawyers will defintely know the details of the company policy and whether or not the company was followed in this case. They will get that information during what we call discovery.