For too long now, fire departments across the United States have been socialist organizations, resulting in forced taxes on the American people. The Obama administration has been very clear about keeping the status quo when it comes to taxpayer-funded fire departments. The USA has the best fire departments in the world, but that doesn't mean that anyone (even non-US citizens) should be able to dial up and have fires put out, etc. There are private companies (Halliburtion, Etc.) who could step in tomorrow and take over every fire department in America and charge each consumer directly for Fire Protection.
“When fascism comes to America , it will be wrapped in asbestos and carrying a fire hose."
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Nice attempt at humor, though. We want to laugh with you and not at you.
Medicare runs much more efficiently than private insurance and it is the best insurance I have ever had.
While the military is not the epitome of efficiency it is a federal project that seems to work.
Ther are many many others. I am tired of all the anti-government lies being spread by the disgruntled wack job minority in this country. You lost remember.
How about NASA.
How about the National Park
A) demonstrate that it is better than real free-market reforms (which you ignore),
B) demonstrate the Constitutionality of the government takeover of health care,
C) demonstrate that the "real" costs will be budget neutral (as the President claims), and
D) insure that the present Congress, under penalty of law, invokes it (and it alone) for themselves and their families [No special treatment].
What about social security, what about medicare. When FDR proposed Social security in the 1930's the forebears of the current generation of morons cried Socialism. Should we repeal Social Security and medicare to appease the howeling unwashed uneducated and very selfish masses?
People have been saying ss is going broke for years and years and it hasn't yet.
The predicted end of this plaint is total annihilation but not for a while
Didn't think so.
Becoming American
In my opinion, this makes the Fire Deparments in Arizona a perfect example of how our local governments work.
There are a few volunteer fire deparments left. But, of course, first you need people to volunteer.
thanks for leading us toward understanding the fear tactic that shouting "socialism" almost always is.
And let's farm out air control. Who needs the governemnt meddling in air traffic safety? Water quality too. NO Fed water standards, if you die drinking lead tainted water it was YOUR responsibility to make sure your local water company was doing it right. And on and on and on.
Sometimes the craven stupidity of the "government take over" crowd is dazzling.
Tithing is not a practice you have any authority to abolish or continue.
Ken, what makes you say things that aren't true? It seems to be a practice you hold dear to your heart. I would love to understand why if you care to explain.
Oooh, oooh, I know, Faux news, conservative blogs, and "talk" radio, would be my guess.
He said, "What you do for the least of them you do for me."
After all private business is much more efficient and cost effective than any government run program including emergency services.
If you have a medical emergency, have your house broken into or if your house has a fire you should only get help if you have the money to pay for it at the time service is rendered and any thing more than that is socialism. These services need to be paid for by those that use them not the public through their tax dollars.
Go back to human nature and the way systems are built.A bureaucracy is not the best business model.It does not allow for creativity, it is too rigid. There fore once set up hard to change because of its size.
A private model will have better chance to adapt to sudden changes and adjust.
A lot has to do with size.
I always thought health care could best be managed if each state had responsibility for its own people and the Fed gov, only played a part in regulations and subsidies in case of emergencies and other cataclysm.
If the states are already set up for medicare and medicaid etc.. they are prepared to handle a public option, provided there is an agency dedicated to solve any issues that come up.
The states can adjust their premium based on the number of people in their states, rural or urban and other differences, actuaries could figure that, so it can service the correct demographic living there, and have the funds to do it.
All the states that agree will participate and those that do not will have to face the elections next time around.
My reasoning goes thus, a little force behind a lot of reason will get you further then anything else.
In any case, there is real socialism and there is social facism (which by the way isn't "entirely" bad either) but I think what everyone is talking about here is social facism, not real socialism. The one is almost entirely different then the other, although they both have some good points.
"In North America, Jamestown, Virginia was virtually destroyed in a fire in January, 1608. There were no full-time paid firefighters in America until 1850. Even after the formation of paid fire companies in the United States, there were disagreements and often fights over territory. New York City companies were famous for sending runners out to fires with a large barrel to cover the hydrant closest to the fire in advance of the engines. Often fights would break out between the runners and even the responding fire companies for the right to fight the fire and receive the insurance money that would be paid to the company that fought it. Interestingly, during the 1800s and early 1900s volunteer fire companies served not only as fire protection but as political machines. The most famous volunteer firefighter-cum-politician is Boss Tweed, head of the notorious Tammany Hall political machine, who got his start in politics as a member of the Americus Engine Company Number 6 ("The Big Six") in New York City."
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if you have your house broken into, defend yourself first, then you might not even have to call the cops.
by the time the cops get there you may never need to call them again. You don't think the people who are breaking into your home are depending on the cops to come in case you turn the tables on them and make it clear to them that you want them there even less they want to be there.
How US History Unravels the American Myth of Free Markets
They told me that the fire and police departments, benefit everyone in society; whereas things such as wellfare and universal healthcare are taking money from some people to pay for others. ( something along those lines) They did also say though that they had no problem with people who were disabled being on a wellfare program. I disagreed with them, because I think things like wellfare benefit everyone in society also, even if someone never uses the program. What would be the consequences, if wellfare benefits were just suddenly discontinued; for everyone but the disabled? I think there'd be a lot of unintended consequences to that.
Let these people that rave against health care choose to go without it and pay out of their pocket or keep paying high insurance rates that do not cover anything. And while they are at it stay off our socialist highways and give them no S.S., its socialism.
We as a nation created a government to serve our needs that are about social/physical/legal infrastructure because these underlying services allow us all and each to have a secure and useful structure in which to order our lives in our each individual own direction. It was something we did, quite consciously back as a people to make our lives easier and allow for greater productivity.
theoretical economics
When you descend below a certain level of poverty in America, you are no longer poor, you are sick and you are forced to take medication for your "illness".