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by Jane L.
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April 24, 2007

Is Ted Kennedy Worthy of Praise? - I Say NO!

August 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT (Updated: August 27, 2009 11:09 AM EDT)
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We live in a society that values form over substance, and desperately searches for a hero to talk about and write about, as after all, it sells newspapers!

Ted Kennedy, his life and his death, are a perfect example of this flawed system of ours. Ted Kennedy was and is not a hero. From a pro-life perspective, in fact, he is one of the greatest villains of all time.

Forget about Chappaquiddick, womanizing, drinking to excess, and contributing to the decadence and depravity that has enamored our societry for the last several decades. As a Catholic, he ignored their core value of respecting human life from conception. The Catholic Church is clear about this issue and unlike what many people think, the church teaches that abortion or supporting abortion rights is a mortal sin.

The real hero in the Kennedy family was unequivocably Eunice Shriver.

Inspired by her love of God, her devotion to her family and her relentless belief in the dignity and worth of every human life, she worked without ceasing,” said the family’s public statement. “She was a living prayer. ... She set out to change the world and to change us, and she did that and more. She founded the movement that became Special Olympics, the largest movement for acceptance and inclusion for people with intellectual disabilities in the history of the world.

Nevertheless, journalists failed to connect the dots between Shriver’s fierce activism on behalf of children facing disabilities and her commitment to defending the lives of the unborn, including babies with Down syndrome and other genetic flaws. This doesn't sell newspapers!

I hope that the priest at Ted Kennedy's funeral mass will have the gumption to point out Mr. Kennedy's fatal flaw as it related to the unborn, but I won't hold my breath! Even the Catholic Church is pressured by politics and a concern for turning off their constituents.

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Comments: 249

Peter Joseph Swanson Aug 27, 2009, 11:12am EDT
He deserves praise just for getting all the very many American uninsured children covered so they could get medical care. The pro-life people didn't seem to care at all about those children who already born and were suffering. Ted did.

And he really was bi-partisan. He has decades of legislation that he started and he shared with Republicans that improved the lives of the average people. Like Eunice Shriver, he will be praised for years to come as somebody who helped make America a nicer place.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 11:15am EDT
Everyone wants and wanted the uninsured children covered. Ted Kennedy is far from unique in that desire and is one of thousands that have fought for this to become reality. That will never remove the harm he did to the 70 million unborn children killed through abortions in this country since 1973!
Peter Joseph Swanson Aug 27, 2009, 11:37am EDT
He made the legislation happen. He started it and pushed it through and fought those many Republicans that didn't want those many children covered. He made it happen and that's better than some who claim later that they had wishful thinking for it.

And yes, he was for women's right to choose so they wouldn't be legally regulated as property. Of course. So your throwback club won't praise him for that. Oh well.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 11:41am EDT
Your confusion is that the Republicans didn't want the children covered. On the contrary, they wanted all children covered including the unborn. What they didn't want was all the special interest junk that gets buried in these bills to waste our taxpayer money and grease the hands of Democratic supporters.
Peter Joseph Swanson Aug 27, 2009, 11:48am EDT
Now you're just partisan blathering - your mind is so very narrow you might as well be mentally retarded, and your thoughts about someone who helped A NATION OF AVERAGE PEOPLE are so nasty you must be a satanist.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 11:54am EDT
Thanks Peter for your level-headed analysis.
Peter Joseph Swanson Aug 27, 2009, 12:01pm EDT
Yes, it takes a poet
Charles Pruett Aug 28, 2009, 11:08am EDT
Jane does have it right [correct]. Peter, I think you've come here to promote liberal ideas that are, for the most part, by their very nature contrary to those [conservative/traditionalists] of people who hold the sanctity of human life above "looking good" to constituents, which is mostly what Ted Kennedy was about. Ted Kennedy did some good, sure; but turning one's back on the greatest abomination ever committed by this country [legalizing abortion, and then making people vehemently opposed to it [pro-life taxpayers] fund those MURDERS obliterates the veiled "good doings" Ted Kennedy may have had a hand in. No, he's not responsible for the Pandora's box of Roe v. Wade, but he sure helped to keep it propped open! Providing healthcare to people who cannot provide for them selves IS high and noble, but NO GOOD can compensate for THE worst decision ever passed by a U.S. court: permission to terminate human life at will.
Peter Joseph Swanson Aug 28, 2009, 11:24am EDT
Women's lib isn't going away, women are never going back into the dark ages again, especially not because of an extremist religion. An important part of women's lib is a woman's right to choose. It is one of the most personal things that keeps them from legally being property. That isn't going away so get off it and let's move on so something real and do some politics that help the middle class where it actually matters.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 11:32am EDT
That is a misconception (pardon the pun). Women's lib is not looking to kill babies (half of which are women). Take a look at the Feminists for Life site:

http://www.feministsforlife.org/

As a woman, I am insulted by the implication as I would strongly support women's rights for equality. However, nobody has the right to take an innocent life.
Peter Joseph Swanson Aug 28, 2009, 12:34pm EDT
You take feminism for granted so badly, not even understanding the implications of what it is. You want something both ways that can never be. But then you're looking at life through a lens of extremist religion/politics, so many many things don't make any sense in your world.
Jeannie B. Aug 28, 2009, 7:27pm EDT
//What they didn't want was all the special interest junk that gets buried in these bills to waste our taxpayer money and grease the hands of Democratic supporters.// No, what they want is "What they didn't want was all the special interest junk that gets buried in these bills to waste our taxpayer money and grease the hands of" Republicans.

And as for the thousands of abortions performed since 1973, the thing for which Ted Kennedy is responsible is that the mothers didn't die, too. Far too many women did before Roe v Wade. Conservatives care nothing about them.

Plus, when that particular piece of legislation, it was favored by the upper class (and even conservatives)! They were tired of having to send their wayward daughters offshore to take care of their "little problem".
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kevin homan Aug 27, 2009, 11:28am EDT
I agree with jane L. He was the absolute worst senator in the history of our country. He should have gone too prison for murder and he is for gay rights which is against the biblical teachings. I do that unless he confessed is sins he will not be in heaven. He was for the murdering of babies and he cheated his way through Harvard. Good role model. NOT!!!!!!
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 9:15am EDT
Condemn not lest ye, too, be condemned.
Jeannie B. Aug 28, 2009, 7:29pm EDT
"He cheated his way through Harvard"? Where did you get that???



kevin homan Aug 28, 2009, 9:28pm EDT
It was on the Sean Hannity radio show. He attended harvard and was expelled for cheating and then he went to another school and after that he went back to harvard and was able to graduate.
Joe T. Aug 29, 2009, 7:43pm EDT
I looked this up. It was stated on the Sean Hannity show. Many experts have informed anyone who is interested that it is not true that he was expelled for cheating. He was suspected of cheating. It pleases the Sean Hannity audience because they are usually people who don't understand right from wrong. But, it is just another distortion to keep this type of viewer interested and a regular watcher of the show. Sean Hannity has a good gig going. All he has to do is repeat nonsense and laugh his way to the bank. Something that many people might not realize is that there is no research team on the Sean Hannity show. They do not confirm or verify their content. That probably doesn't matter to you, Kevin, but thinking people will always be concerned about it.
kevin homan Aug 30, 2009, 9:32pm EDT
Unfortunately you have been tricked by some crazy liberal that is telling you lies like they always do to keep you from having a mind of your own, But i guess that you like to support people that think they are better than you and want to tell you how to live your life because you are not capable of making your own decisions. I suppose that you believe that he didn't kill somebody too. may the lord guide you and show you the way back to the promise land.
Chuck L. Aug 31, 2009, 7:57pm EDT
You're actually citing Hannity as a source? Truly? My goodness... I didn't think anyone would ever have the nerve to actually do that.

Unfortunately, this time he's likely almost right. Back when it happened, the story was that Daddy K pulled Teddy out to avoid the scandal of the pending investigation and its likely outcome. Later, Daddy's money, in the form of a "substantial" donation got Teddy back in.

Whether that's true or not, I can't say, but I CAN say that it's true... Teddy was suspected of cheating at the time he initially left Harvard.
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*Carol ~Bronx Southern Belle D. Aug 27, 2009, 11:30am EDT
Not on my watch. Ask Mary Jo and his boot legger daddy.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 9:16am EDT
God made us, every one. Is it up to you to judge the God in each of us?
kevin homan Aug 28, 2009, 9:57am EDT
You're partially right but God made a rulebook and if we disobey it we will condemed. As Christians we must stand up for the word of God not hide under a rock and watch from the sidelines. Jesus said there will be those who claim to know me but i will shut the door on them because they did not know me. It is our job to teach the word of God so that they know they will be judged. I fight off sin everyday and i try to do what Jesus/the holy spirit wants me to do.
Lisa Frost Aug 28, 2009, 12:27pm EDT
teaching the word of God is a far cry from telling somebody they are a sinner. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, who are you to cast judgment on another. He will face God and if Christ isn't on his side, he will face the consequences. Are you so read to be condemned that you push the condemnation of those around you? We are to love our neighbors as ourselves. it didn't say to pick and choose. Love the sinner, hate the sin,.
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Marilyn M. Aug 27, 2009, 11:34am EDT
To me, he is the icon of everything wrong in America.
Wil B. Aug 28, 2009, 8:11am EDT
Is it his support of Meals on Wheels, WIC, CHIP, the Civil Rights
Act of 1964, the Violence Against Women Act, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, the deregulation of the airline industry, the elimination of the poll tax, or the reduction of the voting age from 21 to 18 that you feel is the best example of "everything wrong in America"?
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 8:22am EDT
Two wrongs don't make a right, and Ted had many more than two wrongs. I could name dozens of senators that supported the programs you mentioned above. That does not make someone great or respectable.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 9:18am EDT
And self-righteousness may easily be mistaken (by the perpetrator) for actual righteousness. Yet: "Forgive them, Lord - they know not what they do."
Yet - who are you to judge what God has given us - the Godself in each flawed human being (you, too) who ever was. Because we are all flawed. We're all workin' on it. We make progress, we backslide, we do the best we can.
Wil B. Aug 28, 2009, 10:09am EDT
"I could name dozens of senators that supported the programs you mentioned above. That does not make someone great or respectable."

First, I didn't say that his support of those programs made him great or respectable. I asked Marilyn which of them she felt was the best example of "everything wrong in America".

But in the event that you could name dozens of senators who supported those programs (please feel free to do so if the mood strikes), can you also name dozens of senators who were elected by their constituents nine times, wrote over 2500 bills, over 500 of which became law?
Marilyn M. Aug 28, 2009, 12:28pm EDT
Writing 2500 bills doesn't impress me at all, Wil. Obviously, most were not needed or wanted if only 500 became law. And, I'm sure that if I looked at those 500, I'd probably have opposed more than half.

Kennedy was nothing more than a name with money.
Wil B. Aug 28, 2009, 8:49pm EDT
"Writing 2500 bills doesn't impress me at all, Wil."

Maybe you'd be more impressed if he'd received Gather Points for all that writing.

"And, I'm sure that if I looked at those 500, I'd probably have opposed more than half. "

So what? Are you saying that Sen. Kennedy should have refrained from doing his job (legislating) because you didn't approve of the results?

Are you opposed to Meals on Wheels, Marilyn? Or any of the other things I mentioned? Are those the things that you believe made Sen. Kennedy an "icon of everything wrong in America"?
Wil B. Aug 28, 2009, 9:47pm EDT
"Kennedy was nothing more than a name with money."

Is that your view as a self-proclaimed Christian, Marilyn?
Marilyn M. Aug 30, 2009, 10:12pm EDT
Wil, do a search at YouTube and look at Ted Kennedy and what he said after Chappaquiddick. It's really appalling, all about him, him, him and his family. Hardly a mention of Mary Jo Kopechne. If he hadn't had that name and money, it would have been much worse for him.

Pointing out reality doesn't make me less of a Christian, Wil.
Wil B. Aug 31, 2009, 10:12am EDT
"Pointing out reality doesn't make me less of a Christian, Wil."

What you're pointing out isn't reality, Marilyn. It's your personal opinion. Your opinion that Ted Kennedy is nothing more than a name with money. That doesn't sound like a very Christian view of a fellow human being, Marilyn. But I guess that's not surprising, since you don't really seem like much of a Christian to me. A Fred Phelps, Mark Dice or a Steve Anderson kind of Christian, maybe.
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Ron Jenkins Aug 27, 2009, 11:37am EDT
The icon of everything wrong in America was and will always be George Bush and Dick Cheney and their minions. Move along, nothing to see here.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 11:42am EDT
Boy, it seems like you are the one that needs to move along. At least I am not Clinton bashing here!
Ron Jenkins Aug 27, 2009, 10:23pm EDT
They did enough Clinton bashing to last a millenium, and it was all just a waste of taxpayer money. Or did you forget that, fool.
(The Other) Dale C. Aug 29, 2009, 5:10am EDT
"fool"

Ahh, running out of logic, so the term fool is used. Namecalling gets you zero points, sir. Better go look in the mirror and do some soul searching, yourself, don't ya think?
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Vivian P. Aug 27, 2009, 11:52am EDT
I think the Kennedy family has suffered enough already.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 11:56am EDT
Nobody is arguing that they have not had their fair share of tragedy, but that does not make someone praise worthy.
sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Aug 27, 2009, 10:29pm EDT
Jane - You aren't as good as one of his bowel movements. I hope you get everything you deserve.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 8:23am EDT
I hope I do as well!
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 9:21am EDT
What you do unto others is what shall be done unto you (in this life, or in others to come.)
(This was one of the teachings about karmic return - involving knowledge that humans return to earth school many times, and keep working on lessons in many ways. The main lesson here: Courageous Compassion)
Vivian P. Aug 28, 2009, 11:35am EDT
King David of the old testament doesn't deserve praise as well I suppose. He not only got another mans wife pregnant he sent that man off to war knowing he would die so he could have her as his own. That was back when men thought they owned women. Oh yeah some still do don't they ?

The point I was making was one of breeding and tact my dear. It takes someone with a cold heart to bad mouth anyone so soon after their death. The man has family and friends for the love of God !

I would like to add that God sees all the unborn who perish as well as the mothers and the doctors and nurses and he loves them as well. If you as a Christian have a problem embracing those who you think have sinned then you dear one, have a very big problem !
May God bless you with love and prayers
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Thomas E. Aug 27, 2009, 11:54am EDT
Remembering Teddy’s KGB Connection http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33301
Lee Y. Aug 31, 2009, 12:25am EDT
Thanks for bringing that up .... I meant to look it up and forgot.
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Mark H. Aug 27, 2009, 12:10pm EDT
I once asked if he was a drunk or a traitor. The answer, he was a drunk traitor.

There is no doubt that Bush and Cheney were bad, but this clown had many more years of corruption under his belt.
Spencer T. Aug 28, 2009, 9:18am EDT
All the years of corruption you could find related to him does not in any way over shadow the misguided invasion of a sovereign country with the related loss of lives and untold debt created.
(The Other) Dale C. Aug 29, 2009, 5:13am EDT
And nothing can compare to the "untold debt" now being created. MUCH more debt than your supposed enemy, GWB made. And that's not to defend Bush or his pappy. I dislike them both. Your comment is nothing but spinning your wheels and totally off topic.
Lee Y. Aug 31, 2009, 12:27am EDT
I'm with The Other Dale on this one.
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David Marcucci Aug 27, 2009, 12:19pm EDT
Let me start by saying: I am a MA resident, a Catholic, and am NOT a fan of Ted. Not only is there very little he has done that I could agree with, he has hypnotized the sheeple of this state into supporting him no matter what he does. This has made it impossible to even promote a challenge to his office with any success.

Still, I can appreciate the accomplishments he has made as a US Senator even if his agenda was not one I supported. To survive in the political form that long is amazing. As for what he has done in the past, it is history. He is gone and as a US Senator can no longer do any more harm in that capacity, sure his previous actions will continue to have implications even after he is gone, but at least we address those with a hope of success.

As for his death, that is a personal thing, not political. His funeral is a time of mourning for his family whom I'm sure will miss him, not for pushing a political agenda. You see, the great thing about Catholics is we treat the loss of life as a loss of "life", which is something we respect whether you are 90, 40, 10 or unborn. Whether you are a priest, a politician, a police officer, or in prison, we still respect life. This also makes it easy to attack us and have it appear as though you "won" when you really haven't.

With this being said, as a citizen I wish he has been removed from office years ago but as a Catholic I would never celebrate his death even if it was the only way to remove him from office. Let those who choose to celebrate his death do so on their own conscience.
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Ruthi C. Aug 27, 2009, 12:28pm EDT
Ted Kennedy's flaw is shared by each and every one of us - he was human.

The newsworthy note of his death should be the sorrow in cancer taking yet another life.
Lisa Frost Aug 28, 2009, 12:35pm EDT
and that is something else ignored.
Lee Y. Aug 31, 2009, 12:29am EDT
It was a horrible thing. He seemed to handle it well.
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Larry H. Aug 27, 2009, 12:32pm EDT
yes, he did a lot of good even with his flaws..
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Matthew M. Aug 27, 2009, 12:34pm EDT
Great post Jane. Ted was no hero. Funny how people don't care about some of his major flaws. If he did not have the politically correct media on his side we would look at him in a more realistic light.
Spencer T. Aug 28, 2009, 9:24am EDT
Wouldn't it be more honest to say he was no hero to you? Even with all his flaws he helped to accomplish more than a greater deal of benefit than others. And might I add other than causing the death of another I am sure he was not the only rep voted in office who had similar problems. Alcoholism is rampant in congress as is extra marital affairs and just about any thing else you can name which which you can use as a negative for his service to this country.
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Dan (open minded conservative) K. Aug 27, 2009, 12:38pm EDT
At this time of mourning for his loved ones and supporters, I won't praise or criticize the Senator. I'm sure he's done some very good things and some things I would very much disagree with and I'll leave it at that.

I do, however, think that the first person he'll run into in the afterlife is a young lady named Mary Jo.
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Sandre M. Aug 27, 2009, 12:52pm EDT
How sad, Jane, that your views have made you so hateful.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 12:57pm EDT
Yes, I HATE killing innocent babies. Call me whacky!
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:00pm EDT
Killing babies and innocents in wars, allowing some 20,000-40,000 children per day to die of starvation and hunger-related diseases, maiming children with left-over mines and bombs - that, too, is a form of baby-killing.
There's plenty, plenty, plenty of good child-saving work to be done by people of all faiths and nations, and the sooner people join in the helping, the better for everyone.
Elsie C. Aug 30, 2009, 1:41am EDT
Carolion, you are so right. I am so sick and tired of hearing these mightier-than-thou so-called Christians demeaning enyone who doesn't share their ideology. I can't think of anything LESS Christian than they are.
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Russell Lee Miller Aug 27, 2009, 12:53pm EDT
I'm a conservative but have always respected Ted Kennedy while disagreeing with him on policy.

As far as his character is concerned, I would offer that I wasn't at the bridge that night and neither were any of us. We can speculate all day long and it means nothing.

The other complaint is that he drank too much...and? the point is?

I've always believed him to be hard working, patriotic American who had a different philosophy than then one I adhere to. Senator Kennedy was a flawed person who tried to do good as he saw it.
Jane C. Aug 27, 2009, 1:15pm EDT
Kudos, Russell.

Senator Kennedy's ability to work across party lines and achieve real results through the art of compromise is alone worthy of respect, respect he earned from many in the Republican party.

Was he flawed? Of course. Who among us is not?



Jan S. Aug 27, 2009, 1:20pm EDT
I'm afraid "flawed" is a euphemism for evil. Power corrupts and Mr. Kennedy was addicted to power.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 11:57am EDT
Flawed is what we all are, Jan - and we are all perfect at the same time. We spend many lives balancing the two.
It helps to remember to spend our time looking at our own imperfections and deciding not to dump them on others (witch-hunting).

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Jan S. Aug 27, 2009, 1:18pm EDT
I agree, Jane. The Kennedy men made and still make, their own laws. They are above the laws of the rest of us. Kennedys have been excused for crimes for which others would be expelled or imprisoned. There is very little honor in that family. Senator Kennedy has now faced God and God is not impressed with politicians' lies. He is merciful, however.
Jane C. Aug 27, 2009, 2:44pm EDT
Regardless of political party or views, and long before the birth of a Kennedy the scales of justice have been tipped by those with power.
Jan S. Aug 27, 2009, 6:47pm EDT
Yes, indeed. The Kennedys, like each of us, have a choice to yield to temptation and corruption or not. Jumping on the heavy side of the justice scale only makes it worse, not better.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:15pm EDT
The scales of justice tipped? Hmmm. Human-centric "justice," maybe. But not the true karmic justice of Divine Love. What arrogance, to think that mere humans could tip this balance.

All family systems have great tasks covering their development over many generations, and they have smaller tasks set for each individual generation. Judging a family without knowing its sacred task and the various initiations they must go through in order to master it - well, how does one do that?
Jugding a family with, say, a 10,000-year task by the appearance of one generation would be something I wouldn't care to do. Not for Jan's or Jane's or anyone's family. I'm actually still hoping to discover what my own family's greater task is.

I do know that any individuals or groups incarnating on this planet have entered a school for the mastery of Courageous Compassion. How long does that mastery take, I wonder? Many lifetimes, it seems. Because Earth is also a planet of Trial & Error learning, a planet of Karmic Return, and a planet which changes paradigms fairly frequently. In one century a family will go by the standard, say, of the harem, and of natural/herbal abortions of unwanted pregnancies. In another century a family will have to find a way to keep going in spite of witch-burnings and forced conversions of all sorts. In yet another century a family might have to make choices about monagamy, when before its choice involved polygamy or harem lifestyles.
It's all about finding Truth underneath all its sacred disguises.

Give God a break, will ya?
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Annmarie B. Aug 27, 2009, 1:20pm EDT
I am not a big fan of the Kennedy family. Jane is not hateful, She knows that life starts at conception. We all have made many mistakes in our lives but admitting it and asking God for forgiveness is what God wants us to do. To continues screwing up our lives by supporting killings of babies, Drinking and leaving a girl to die and always talking like he is better than others in everything he did in the government , I would have to answer NO
Spencer T. Aug 28, 2009, 9:25am EDT
Your perception is your own.
Annmarie B. Aug 29, 2009, 5:09am EDT
This is so true Spencer and I am not going to praise a man who did things that if you or I did would have been thrown in jail. Just my opinion so don't get all huffy.
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luckky _. Aug 27, 2009, 1:26pm EDT
Killing of babies??

Just a reminder that the Roe v Wade and Casey decisions which legalized abortion were decided by Republican majority courts.

Not one member of Congress from either party pushed for a Constitutional amendment that would have overturned these rulings. Neither did Reagan or his two Bush disciples.

Therefore, before any of you far right geniuses criticze Kennedy, take a good look at your own political heroes.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 1:42pm EDT
Not true. The Supreme was liberal bisaed ofr both cases, and no Constitutional amendment was brought forward because it had no chance of passing. Read this article by Ronald Reagan and you will see his true views on this issue:

Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:05pm EDT
Look inside yourself for the part of you that is divine. It never dies.
Your body has died in other lives, and you will discard it in this life as well, when the time is right.
There is life with a small "l" and Life with the big "L".
Consider your own soul's path, and the love you need to feed yourself in order get your heart to expand enough to encourage others to live the "big L" Life.
Love is the only thing - the God Thing - that changes anything for the better, truly.
You can bomb us with words, with hate, with material destructive force - but only Love actually changes things for the better.
James s F. Sep 1, 2009, 12:27am EDT
4 times we bombed Saddam and his sons at a late night dinner. To get him we used block-buster bombs which wiped out whole city blocks of families sleeping in their beds.
Turns out each time we 'just missed' Saddam.
After the fall of Baghdad we discovered 'scorpion' the contact on the ground was linked to Chalabai the man who wanted to head up the new Iraq government, (and of whom our CIA kept warning the Pentagon was bad news from the get go.) We were most likely bombing his opponents into oblivion.
But WE THE PEOPLE decided it was ok for Bush to call for the strikes and we would accept the 'collateral' damage.
Gee, maybe some unborn babies were in their mothers wombs at the time and perished. NOW can we feel sorry and shame?
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Shirley U Understand Me S. Aug 27, 2009, 1:31pm EDT
no from this corner as well. His life was one big deception and looking out for himself. To spend whole days and entire news hours talking of nothing but his 'greatness' does a disservice to the truth.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:18pm EDT
There are facts, and then there is Truth.

Opening one's heart to praise the God, the Divine Spark, that is in each human, is an act of Truth.
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Brian T. Aug 27, 2009, 1:32pm EDT
Ted had his faults but has did his share of good. I attempt to say something good about those who have recently passed on as a matter of protocol especially for friends and family that are mourning.
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Stacey (Jesus is coming soon! ) U. Aug 27, 2009, 1:32pm EDT
I never thought much of him.
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luckky _. Aug 27, 2009, 1:53pm EDT
''The Supreme was liberal bisaed ofr both cases''


You need to do your homework as you are way off base. Casey was clearly decided by a CONSERVATIVE Supreme Court.
Jane L. Aug 27, 2009, 1:55pm EDT
This is not worthy of debate. Bad decision! Bad outcome!
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Jane C. Aug 27, 2009, 2:37pm EDT
Jane, I have no doubt but that Jesus' answer to your question would be YES, for he would surely find all life, and any person worthy of praise, not the least of whom would be a dedicated public servant from any political party.

Jane C. Aug 28, 2009, 10:46am EDT
Jesus would show more compassion and have kinder words than many shared on this page.
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Raquel F. Aug 27, 2009, 2:42pm EDT
Thank you Jane, I agree with you totally. Ted is dead, and we're not supposed to say ugly things about dead people...may his soul be forgiven with all the deception for a life he led, and all the people who suffered and died (Mary Jo) in his wake (no pun intended). Sad thing that he had to follow on his dad's filthy life.
And I agree fully w/ David Marcucci's comments.
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Katie Scarlett (Site Bouncer Wanna Be) O. Aug 27, 2009, 3:12pm EDT
I was going to post a comment that was long and wordy, but changed my mind. Let's just say I'm glad I have cable and can watch reruns, and that I do not subscribe to any newspapers, nor any longer belong to the hypocritical Catholic church which will give this man a Catholic burial and blessings for helping the very legislation and laws that those Catholics who subscribed to his 'teachings' were excommunicated from same church for.
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Charles Temm JR Aug 27, 2009, 3:24pm EDT
I agree with your feelings but now is not the time to debate that. No matter what, someone loved him and the family deserves to mourn without the actual man being exposed.
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Katharyne T. Aug 27, 2009, 3:30pm EDT
He is a man that will be missed, no matter what negative judgment goes around.
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Elizabeth H. Aug 27, 2009, 3:45pm EDT
While I mourn his death as a human, I never understood why everyone admired the Kennedys so much. They always seemed like they thought they were better than everybody else. And Ted never did anything single handed, he was just a bully.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:21pm EDT
The Kennedys carry what's called "charisma." So did Elvis, Michael Jackson, Princess Di.....
When we encounter charisma, which is divine energy pouring through a person or group, we are influenced by it.

To learn to handle being a carrier of charisma is not easy. Some do better than others.
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Juan J Martinez Aug 27, 2009, 3:53pm EDT
The man had many faults but he was for the most part everything good that politics can accomplish. His devotion to doing good can not be denied and his ability to bring opposing factions on issues together was well known throughout Washington and the country.
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Barbara B. Aug 27, 2009, 4:04pm EDT
All that came to my mind was this, Maryjo Kopechene (sp) was pregnant
when that accident occured according to the news reports. Was he to be
blamed for the baby's death too ??
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Monica C. Aug 27, 2009, 4:22pm EDT
All I can say is "goodriddins" to the Kennedy Clan. Hopefully there will be no more Kennedy's in either Congress or Senate. He has done enough damage to his children's and grandchildren's generation to last a lifetime.
Charles Pruett Aug 28, 2009, 11:12am EDT
Completely true. Fortunately for him: God is far more merciful than any of us. I think he was terribly misguided. Liberalism IS a mental disorder, after all! Maybe there should an LMD pill [Liberal Mental Disorder] pill, similar to meds used for ADHD patients [which I'm one, by the way, so no dig intended on those who suffer this very real challenge].
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:22pm EDT
Robert Kennedy Jr. has done amazing good works in assisting with the cleanup of the Hudson River and in training environmental lawyers. He sets an incredibly fine example.
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Juan J Martinez Aug 27, 2009, 5:06pm EDT
AS opposed to the Bush Clan?
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Dexter S. Aug 27, 2009, 5:21pm EDT
With out Ted Kennedy there would be no civil rights legislation. Blacks would not be able to vote. people with handicaps would have no rights and there would be no Medicare and Social Security would have long been gone... 500 pieces of legislation and more would never have passed. I didn’t always agree with him, but he did more to help the average and disadvantaged in this country than any human ever elected to the Senate if not any public office. God Bless you Teddy, but I need not say that now for your now in heavan.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 8:26am EDT
I don't believe that for a second. Ted was loud and noticeable but his agenda was that of many others as well. It was actually his staffers that did most of the work anyway.
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Juan J Martinez Aug 27, 2009, 5:29pm EDT
Is the animosity and hatred that fuels the GOP against anyone who does not hold their views and beliefs impeding certain individuals from acknowledging the legacy of Ted Kennedy and all the good he accomplished while in Washington? The answer is YES.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 8:27am EDT
This isn't a partisan opinion. America is blinded by glitz and hubrous, and the Kennedy name had both.
Spencer T. Aug 28, 2009, 9:29am EDT

Which is in fact a partisan opinion.
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Ali Hussein Lopez Aug 27, 2009, 6:15pm EDT
The typical Republican attitude: life begins at conception and ends at birth.

Ted Kennedy was a GREAT senator. He was a man who always fought for the downtrodden, the working man, the disadvantaged.

Was he a perfect man? Of course not. In his hour of testing, he was tried and failed. He spent his life trying to make up for that one fatal moment. He had a love of drink and women, and was not a perfect husband or father.

But he didn't need to work, he could have devoted his life to mindless hedonism. Instead he fought to make life better for millions of Americans.

I don't give a damn about the fetal supremicist and their anti-abortion positions. That's just more evidence that they want to control women's bodies, regardless of any challenges the person might have. That's REAL Naziism.

Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 8:29am EDT
No, killing the unborn and experimenting on fetuses is REAL Naziism!
Ali Hussein Lopez Aug 28, 2009, 8:56am EDT
I believe in a woman's right to choose her own medical procedures based on her own situation.

You're obviously a fetal supremicist.

There is no middle ground.
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Debra H. Aug 27, 2009, 7:34pm EDT
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Lisa Frost Aug 28, 2009, 12:42pm EDT
Thank you, Well said
Vivian P. Aug 28, 2009, 5:06pm EDT
A big AMEN Debra
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Steve M. Aug 27, 2009, 7:44pm EDT
Ted Kennedy left this world a better place. He devoted his life to public service and we are all richer because of it.
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Christin Lore Weber Aug 27, 2009, 7:58pm EDT
Let's be careful. Who really knows what was in the man's soul?
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James C. Aug 27, 2009, 8:09pm EDT
It is interesting that Ted's generation of Kennedys devoted their lives to public service, unlike their father who was strictly a money acquisition person. Ted could have gone for greater wealth but chose instead, to attempt to help others.
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Mariana T. Aug 27, 2009, 9:54pm EDT
May he rest in peace. Salud
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Ron Jenkins Aug 27, 2009, 10:24pm EDT
Amen, Mariana. Most of these so-called Christians on here are total wackjobs.
Angel sent from God Secret Sisters Aug 28, 2009, 8:16am EDT
Well I am a Christian and I am not a wack job either !!lol
(The Other) Dale C. Aug 29, 2009, 5:36am EDT
Ahh.. more name calling. You are very good at that. "Sometimes it's best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
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Tami G. Aug 27, 2009, 10:38pm EDT
Every person is worthy of praise like any other person who had left this wonderful earth. When they die they are forgiven for all & any of their sins. They are cleansed & sealed with the love of God with holy water & the smoke inscents. This is the new life of the person who had died & we are asked that he be relieved of all his sins as he is laid to rest to do the rest of Gods work. So I say yes he is worthy of praise.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 8:33am EDT
I can't argue wit hthat Tami. I really should have said "false" praise.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:38pm EDT
Praise goes to the divine spark in each of us and the universe - call it God - that's just where it goes.
False praise, or blather - that's compost, eh?

Who judges Truth from falsehood? Truth itself (and we use Time in that formula) shows us the way sometimes many years after an incarnation has ended.

Judge not lest ye be so-judged in your own next incarnations.
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Anita D. Aug 28, 2009, 12:22am EDT
In a word: Chappaquiddick

Edward Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne (his brother Robers assistant) were in a car accident in 1969, when Kennedy drove over the side of a small bridge called Dike Bridge, on Chappaquiddick Island, a smaller island located next to the larger Martha’s Vineyard.

Unfortunately, the car sunk after the crash, and while Kennedy was able to swim safely to shore, Ms. Kopechne was trapped in the vehicle and subsequently died. The major problem with this incident was that Kennedy failed to report his accident, Mary Jo’s death, or even to contact the police for help until the next morning. In fact, Kennedy did not report the incident until after the car was found, which to many suggests he might not have reported it; but the car was discovered a few days later.

Johnice R. Aug 28, 2009, 10:30am EDT
Yep, he was a louse and a drunk in those days--blacking out after drinking and womanizing is the price we as a society pay for the crime of drinking and driving.
He was a neighbor and a friend whose faults were greater than any of my other friends yet, there was always something so easy to forgive about that man who inspired sincerity and patience in others. Some folk give more to others and have little self control for vices of life. I know that Ted gained a sobering grip on his behavior late in life and I am just as sure that he is not the only person on the planet who is or was a late bloomer. So call him what you will he has helped millions and is loved by many world leaders and many in the GOP.

As I write thousands are paying their respects to him and the family as his body lay in repose before services this evening.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 10:39am EDT
Who doesn't love the circus?
Johnice R. Aug 28, 2009, 10:42am EDT
Your disrespect is typical and unnecessary on every level.
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 10:48am EDT
I respect life. In this case I am speaking for the 70 million unborn children violently murdered in this country since 1973 thanks to politicians like Ted Kennedy.
Spencer T. Aug 28, 2009, 11:06am EDT
What about those of us who disagree with you? Are we as dispicable as you wish to paint him. And I can't help but wonder are you the same person you were 40 years ago? By your admission it matters not what a person does at anytime if they were wrong in 1970 they remain wrong today. No room for change nor forgiveness?
Jane L. Aug 28, 2009, 11:17am EDT
No, not despicable, just misguided. However, to continue to allow millions to die each year approaches despicable when you know it his happening and don't do anything about it.

People can change and be forgiven. Dr. Nathanson is a perfect example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Nathanson

I am not sure Kennedy ever really changed. He just got better at hiding his indiscretions.
Carolion Grailbear Aug 28, 2009, 12:41pm EDT
Those among us who have done our 12-Step work might find your assertions false. People change and do better. That's what we're here for.
Tami G. Aug 28, 2009, 4:36pm EDT
Sen. Kennedy did not take those lives the baby’s mother did. He gave his approval for women who wanted to take charge of their own bodies that they could legally have an abortion. I do not agree with abortion for myself but there are cases that I have seen where I truly believe that it would have been better if an abortion were performed. There are many people in this world who for whatever reason have agreed to consented to an abortion. Those people have to live with that decision. Just because someone votes or helps, get a law passed does not mean we have to do it. It is a right of each individual. Nevertheless, to judge someone about a law that they voted for does not make him it alright for us to be disrespectful to his family & friends during his death. No one is asking you to attend the funeral but pointing fingers of negativity at this time is not right.
James s F. Sep 1, 2009, 12:16am EDT
found a few hours later. Not days.
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Raquel F. Aug 28, 2009, 12:37am EDT
Uncle Ted on Robert Bork in 1987: (He shamefully destroyed a decent human being)

KENNEDY: "Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, and schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution. Writers and artists would be censored at the whim of government. And the doors of the federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is and is often the only protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy."

Johnice R. Aug 28, 2009, 10:16am EDT
His points were as with the speculation in the Sotomayor conformation yet, I was supportive of the "Borking" of Robert Bork in 1987 because his record was not solid for Civil Rights or Woman's Rights. Not because Ted said anything, I do my own research. I have found when it comes to a public career, men make public decisions and some private ones which may bite them in the rear, and like some right wing groups think there are more who will support their evil than do really exist. They are mostly wrong and the rest they buy. In America, evidently, you can do that and not go to jail--what a country!
Joe T. Aug 29, 2009, 8:02pm EDT
Hahahahahahahaha! The notion that Robert Bork is a decent human being is laughable. He abused his privileged status as a judge. Congress called it right when they rejected his Supreme Court nomination.
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