As I grow older, I have become fascinated by “pop memory†and the difference between what I deem popular and what younger people see as popular. This has led me to contemplate where the dividing line is between this generational phenomenon.
For example, if I am sitting in a waiting room and pick up a copy of People magazine, devoted to the happenings of today’s popular celebrities, I quickly discover that I have absolutely no knowledge of who they are or why I should be interested. This is true of most items I am confronted with in the popular media. I used to be an avid reader of gossip columnists, a rabid movie fan, and I prided myself of an acute awareness of the popular culture with an encyclopedic knowledge of the names, lifestyles and antics of so-called celebrities.
No more. I am out of the loop.
Indeed, I sometimes enjoy tweaking my many younger friends with a barrage of questions about what I thought were the well-known names of celebrities only to discover a blank stare and a lined forehead in response. Making allowances, I do not really expect my younger friends to remember Jack Benny, Fred Allen, Fibber McGee and Molly, and Eddie Cantor would be a stretch.
But I have now discovered that even Frank Sinatra is fast becoming a “never heard of†among the “with it†denizens of the upcoming generation. I dare not even ask about Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Winston Churchill and often wonder what would have happened to the memory of George Washington if he wasn’t prominently displayed on the one-dollar bill. Indeed, I have discovered younger people who think he was a bridge, a state, or a national capital. Worse, I have encountered younger people who believe that Adolph Hitler was an actor who played in some movies about Nazis.
As a kid, in the glory days of the Brooklyn Dodgers, I knew every player on the roster and their stats. What would it mean to today’s baseball addict if I mentioned that I had seen Ducky Medwick beaned or thought one of the greatest pitchers on the diamond, although often wild, was Van Lingle Mungo? Think of the giggles I would get from those who worship A-rod or sit in the bleachers of the spanking new Yankee Stadium.
What interests me is not the gap of awareness between the generations, but where one can place the dividing line where memory switches between the now and yesterday. At what age can one expect to be talking in tongues to a younger generation? At what age did my parents begin talking in tongues to me?
My mother once mentioned to me that twenty thousand people showed up at Rudolph Valentino’s funeral. Rudolph who, I wondered then.
In my short story collection New York Echoes, published last year, there was a story called, what else, “The Dividing Line†in which an older man married to a younger woman tries to discover when exactly their memories of the popular culture reach that grey area where neither find common ground. They grapple with this strange gap between them and agree to disagree leaving them to accept the situation as the way of all flesh.
Is it because we are living longer and our memories, if they are still operative, stretch over a larger expanse of time and our natural expectation is that others of whatever age have these same memories? Or is it because the cycle of awareness has accelerated beyond our brain’s vaunted storage ability and we are relying instead on the whirling dervish of technology to keep our memories somewhere in a computer file?
Perhaps this is why I am discovering a dividing line between people in my own age group between those who are reasonably or even marginally computer literate and those who have eschewed the computer as either too complicated or an instrument of the devil. It is often frustrating to discover that a close friend my age does not have e-mail and still relies on the pen and the telephone for their communications. That gap will disappear in time.
I am well aware that these observations are somewhat of a cliché and, I suppose, a normal part of the aging process specific to my generation which got caught in the middle of the computer revolution. I suppose, too, that if one made the effort as a kind of sociological and pedagogical experiment, one could keep up with the emerging pop culture.
On a sentimental note, one might opine that one person’s historical memory is nothing more than normal nostalgia and a yearning for one’s lost youth. This might explain my addiction to the black and white movies cranked out in the golden age of Hollywood. Not only can I name every actor in the flicks and know most of the stories cold, my interest is primarily in the sets, clothes, habits and language of the dialogue.
The atmosphere of those movies was bathed in cigarette smoke, men wore fedoras, and women’s clothes appeared far more elegant than today. People were dressed
up at even the most casual events and the value of money was astonishingly deflated when compared to today’s numbers. Brother can you spare a dime for a cup of coffee would be laughable in today’s Starbucks saturated world. A bad guy was a “mug.†A lady was a “dame†and often called “toots.†People said things like “scram†or “twenty three skidoo†and hundreds of other now dead slang expressions.
Most younger people I know instantly tune out black and white movies. Clark Gable, once known as the king of Hollywood, is identified occasionally by my younger friends as some kind of roofing material and Myrna Loy, at first guess, is usually considered a member of the Chinese Politburo.
Whoever is considered more ignorant or out of touch in the great lottery of life, there is one sure thing. Those who are completely in sync with the comings and goings of the contemporary celebrity culture will one day be completely out of touch with it in a few short years. Indeed, the Beatles will one day go back to being insects, Elvis will be the name of some hip surgery prosthetic, and Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson will one day be confused with American Presidents.
Andy Warhol was wrong when he said that everyone will enjoy their fifteen minutes of fame.
The time frame he referred to might one day be measured in seconds.
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Warren Adler
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Comments: 38
Yes, some of my contemporaries including my wife are cyberphobic. I go to meetings about incorporation of electronic health records and hear the comment that you'll have trouble with the old guys. I'm the old guy, yet I'm the banner bearer because we just now are able to do things which I wanted to do with computers in the practice of medicine in the 1980's but technology had to catch up first. Yet when I stand at the checkout and look at who is divorcing whom, like you I neither identify them nor care.
Like my penchant for old fountain pens.
conversation with God
My daughter (18) remarked not long ago that she was surprised I had heard of a certain song.
Of course, i said. It is 'from my time. (the sixties). Oh, she said, I didn't know it was THAT old.
My daughter does know tons of music from the 40s till now.
I have proudly graduated from my love of 50s, 60, and 80s pop music to include the ultra contemporary
Lady Gaga, Pitbull, Britney...etc...
Basically, it comes down to people who have a great deal of curiosity versus those who do not.
You Sir, always have had and always will have a great deal of curiosity.
It's in your genes and in your newsprint.
Such BS. MY generation. Now we have to give way to..............kids...........Who, yes,........what do they know?
Not what they think they know....
I have always been fond of classics movies, even before talkies were made. And, I have no idea who/what is on MTV by choice...
My mom once told me that we will comfortable with ourselves and stop chasing the younger generation.
I'm at the point for the most part already.
I am thinking the Ivory Tower still views Highbrow as more important, but not sure cuz I don't hang with those folks no more, not since I fell into noosepaper work.
I am just pretending to be young forever....well...
I do remember most of the celebrities you mentioned, except for maybe one or two.
I'm not a Yankees fan, so I have no clue who these guys are.
I grew up watching Mtv when it still had music videos, twenty-four seven. And, I knew just about every celebrity and every musician you could think of.
I too, have been caught unaware by some new up and coming bands and actors/actresses.
And, asked who?
That comes with age, that you don't care too much about what Zac Effron is doing with his hair this week. Or why Britney Spears has a new car.
You just have to shrug, and say, oh well.
You don't have to know everything about the world at large.
You just have to have something to live for.
We knew the times had past us by when we tried to wath the Grammys a couple years ago. We knew that we wouldn't know the rappers but we thought we would know most of the other artists NOT!
As far as all the other stuff they write show and talk about, we aren't that interested.
However, praise God that one tried and true saving message NEVER changes except in some's own personal erroneous interpetation and neglect of it.. That message is God's word. The Bible..... God’s word is awesome! Never changing. If we read it, study it, and digest it, no matter how many times, choice little nuggets appear, like digging for gold, Only with God’s word we’ll never run out of discoveries. If we continue studying our Bibles, inevitably, new and priceless nuggets appear providing us with rich new perspectives and challenges.
"Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 10:32, 33.
. “whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 10:33. “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God”, Romans 12:2.
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature,” Mark 16:15.
This made me laugh! :) HEHEHheh hehehhe HEHHE...
what'd you say again?
I guess they had heard about this movie ... which is called "District 9" by the way. The movie was great, a sort of allegory about apartheid, with aliens from another planet coming to live in South Africa.
All these kids were wide awake and reacting when there was some violence or special effect, but half the time their cellphones with shining off and on as they checked their messages and were texting each other. Most of them probably did not know what apartheid is, or where South Africa is on a map.
The movie was great I think most enjoyed it, but I wondered how and why all these kids were there and what they thought of this movie? Why is it that we think whatever pop culture we grow up with is so great. I have that feeling about the late 60's and early 70's, that is when I started buying "records", but I see very little that is good about music I hear today. I'm not against it and sometimes there are some good songs, same with movies. District 9 blew me away, it was one of the few good movies I have seen this year. I really cut back on moviegoing when I realized that such a high percentage of movies that I went out to see were so insulting to my intelligence.
We have a movie theater in my town that plays movies from the 20's on, very old movies, way before my time, even my fathers, and I just love them. Seeing a huge span of time differntial somehow puts in focus what is good and univerally human about good movies, it has little to do with style and time.
BTW, since the 80's are coming back, is Ray Stevens going to become popular again?
My tastes tend to run toward the high brow of pop culture as opposed to the low brow, so I tend to ignore whatever Britney Spears is doing, and gear myself towards music, movies, and books that have some substance to them, as opposed to manufactured junk that does nothing for the soul.