SHADOWS of DEPRESSION

I feel you and can relate. Thank you for posting to our group, Rene.

It's a "spiritual thang" Jen. You're welcome.

You're a true artist, Rene! I love the way you use the font styles, it really adds to the expression of this wonderful poem.

And this I guess completes the SHADOWS trilogy!

Hey Kamran ~ I love seeing you on the rope ~ ahahah. Great ICON ~ I've always loved it. Thank you very much for what you've said. I'm into DESIGN. Interior, and otherwise. ~ L O L.

No it was actually a Snippets FOUR. FOUR Snippets in FOUR Days ~ and it was for Our 2nd Snippets CHALLENGE ~ This is an elongated version of my 3rd entry. So, actually, this is my FIFTH writing. Only you won't find it in Snippets, because Snippets is for those Writers, Authors and Poets who know how to write in "30" words or less...

BIG SMILES Kamran. Thank you for reading and commenting, and I'm looking forward to SEEing some of your NEW WRITINGS!

Your Friend,
Rene

On a clear day I can SEE SHADOWS


This one line says so much. People who have never experienced clinical depression rarely understand that even when life is at its brightest moments those shadows always find a way to let us know they are with us.

I agree with you Linda. That one line says a lot.

I know exactly what Linda means.
You have described what living under a shroud is like very well.

Linda, Renee and Madame Butterfly ~ Thank you all for commenting COLLECTIVELY on this writing. Clinical Depression is experienced by so many people that it would be very hard not to "feel" it on some level of one's being. What effects one effects us ALL. Whether we are tapped in or not. When you tap into the spiritual level of LIFE, you are able to pull out ALL that it consists of. Sometimes, unknowingly, people take on the "feelings", "thoughts" and "sensitivities" of others, and mistake them for their own.

This writing is pulled from my spirit from the COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this and give me your feedback.

I've delt with major depression along with my bipolar for a long while, and this speaks out to me. Very well written, its true, it feels like a shadow is there, even at my happiest moments.

Hi Krystal ~ Your response is along the same lines as Linda, Renee, and Madame Butterfly. It is a writing that has to "touch" those who read it, because the spirit of it carries no name. Depression is a "spirit"... and a "shadow" is a good descriptive for it.

Thank you very much for reading this writing, and giving us your thoughts.

This is really good.

How beautifully you bring the truth, that we share this depression one and all.

Thank you Shelbia and Karen.

And, Karen, I'm glad you pulled that out . . . "that we share this depression one and all." . . .

It was my intent (and always is) when I write ~ the "collective" consciousness. At some level from some point of view, WE ALL "feel" ~ and WE are ALL CONNECTED.

Blessings to you both ~
Your Friend,
Rene

Shadows can be so haunting or simply a reflection of a piece of us, not the whole of us.

Well now . . . JustMe and Marianne ~ You two have a real discussion going on here about this writing.

I agree with Just Me in that "Shadows can be so haunting or simply a reflection of a piece of us, not the whole of us." . . . very wise words, and well said.

I also agree with Marianne in that ". . . unless the shadows grow into a darkness from which one cannot escape." . . . this happens when a person feels there is no "HOPE" ~ And WE KNOW that "FAITH" is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. It takes "FAITH", and faith is from a place that cannot be seen with the natural eye, nor understood with the natural mind. Despair darkens the eyes and the senses.

Thank you both for adding in your input, you've led me to a passage that I really love . . .

"NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses]." ~ HEBREWS 11"1 ~ AMPLIFIED BIBLE

I know of these feelings. A votex taking you in. Consuming.
Wonderfully written with your expertise.


New dawn

Thank you much Master Poet Poddar. I'll check out "New dawn"...

You are very talented.

Thanks Tom.

Wow. You have described feelings and emotions that some people only feel and never talk about. And you described the feelings so vividly well Rene. The shadows. The haunting shadows. Too bad I can relate to this, but it is what it is. Thank you for sharing your talent.

Carol ~ Thanks a lot for reading this poetic piece, and for adding in your input. I know you (and many others) can relate to this writing.

HUGS to you Carol ~
Your Friend,
Rene

I know those shadows. Well.

Hi Aunt Shanny ~ Thanks for commenting, and I do hope that you are eliminating all shadows in the form of relaxation, new friendships, and loving family.

BIG HUGS to YOU!
Rene

A marvelous love poem dear Rene' who wouldn't succumb to your justified demands.

Hi Haim ~ It is interesting that you would call this a "love poem" ~ It is more like an anchor that weighs the spirit and soul down if not realized that one should detach from it. If I had to call this a "love poem", I'd call it a dysfunctional love poem. It is what is known to many as a TOXIC RELATIONSHIP.

Thank you for adding in your thoughts.

. . . justified demands ~ l o l

I should have termed it as a one sided love poem, for what impressed me were the yearning though sad - but that's too what love is sometimes, don't you agree?

I AGREE Haim. You summed it up best with the terms, "a one~sided love poem".

I would never call "LOVE" a 'sad yearning' . . . I would ~ and do ~ look at LOVE and "feel" LOVE ~ as an all~encompassing feeling of WHOLENESS by both parties involved. (LOVE is not a half~act as I think of it.) . . .

It is a sharing ~ a JOY ~ a HAPPINESS ~ a meaningful synchronicity ~ a feeling of ONENESS that can't be broken by anyone or anything. It goes into the depths of the mind, body and soul on a level that only LOVE can. So much so, that "sadness" is felt through the EYES of LOVE, and that kind of sadness is on a very different level than I think you are speaking of. That kind of sadness is a yearning for all that is RIGHT, GOOD, POSITIVE, BENEFICIAL, TRUE, and EVERLASTING. The kind of sadness that yearns for what will not fade away. That's what I'm speaking of when I speak of "LOVE".

You may have more to add to my thoughts...

No dear Rene' you've covered it from all aspects, it merits to be an appreciated post by itself.

A very dramatic finish! Nice.

THE BOOK OF SHADOWS

Thanks Robert. You'll find "THE BOOK OF SHADOWS" that you put a great deal of thought into FEATURED in Snippets!

HUGS ~
Your Friend,
Rene

that was amazing Rene! Well said, and I too like the colors and font changes - it speaks well in this piece!

Thanks much Jan. I'm coming over to your place NOW to SEE what you've got that's NEW! . . .

THANKS FOR SHARING..

thanks for sharing

Smiles to you both ~ Larry and Lets not ~ I hope that you two will do the same with some of your writings. Thanks for leaving me a comment on this.

Your Friend,
Rene

Interesting to read the longer form. I liked the shorter one better, perhaps because it hits harder?

Oh my ~ THANKS Sheila . . . I'm looking for feedback on both versions. It is the inbetween that is missing on the shorter version. But it is the inbetween "thoughts regarding the situation" that makes the longer version a personal insight for the Reader.

Since you liked the shorter version, it tells me that you like to get to the point of things, and to the heart of the matter. No wasting time for you on pondering anything that you can already SEE the end of ~ am I right about it? ~ L O L ~ I'd love to hear what your response to my summation is . . .

This is a wonderful descriptive poem of depression, I have dealt with it, not having it myself, but my daughter was clinically depressed at one time, and you described what she
said, she told me she was losing herself. That made me very afraid for her, she was in a marriage that was consuming her, making her doubt herself, she did leave him, and recovered and remarried again, and was happy. Both the short poem and the long one
are very well written, and I too like the way you use the different fonts when you write
it is like hearing intonations in your speech. Thank you.

Hi Elsie ~ Thank you for sharing your experience relative to Clinical Depression. I am so glad to hear that your daughter was able to identify the root cause, and eliminate it, and move on to a happier life.

I appreciate your thoughts on this poetic piece. Thanks to Gather for the different fonts and colours ~ lol ~ that was a great addition to this Site.

HUGS Elsie ~ I'm so glad to have you around to give your insight.

I'm glad you directed me to this longer version of your snippet. Depression can indeed be a sadistic shadow. I only hope those that have this shadow looming around them realize their is light that can dissipate it. Hopefully, each will find the "light" which works for them. Great writing, Rene.

Renda ~ You definitely have a way with words . . . "sadistic shadow"~ What a description for "depression".

Thank you for mentioning the "light" that dissipates shadows of this nature. Those are TRUE words that you have shared.

Thank you for reading the longer version of "SHADOWS of DEPRESSION" Renda, I really wanted everyone's thoughts on which version they liked better.

HUGS ~
Your Friend,
Rene

Although I like them both, I prefer this one....it has more description, more explanation....it is more revealing (if you know what I mean).

ahaaha! Thanks Renda ~ I know what you mean ~ l o l. I really wanted to know from everyone which one they liked better. Thanks a lot for letting me know which one your preferred!

Rene, I think that many of us will often feel the shadows of another 'pass over' and permeate our spirit, and we will then feel the same sadness they have felt. It's the way of a oneness with our world, I s'pose, for somewhere down the line, it may be our shadow that needs a place to rest, and the one with whom we shared the shadows in the past may return the favor.

Brilliantly written m'dear!

Hi Ruth ~ Your words are so true. Thank you for sharing your input on this poetic piece.

a well chosen image to go with an excellent sense-exploration of depression in a poetic format. you've used a flow and rhythm in your words that i often find when i look into that aspect of me that you are describing and getting at here in the "you" of this poem... somehow turning to creativity in this state helps me. i'm grateful for that. i'm not sure if it helps you or not - however - relating this sense to others in a way that helps us to understand our self - that is a great giving from you. thank you.

Hi Wrick ~ I'm glad you added your input to this poetic work. I love your style on all of your creative works ~ from the literary to the VISUAL. Thank you so much for what you've said.

And, YES, turning to creativity always helps me. I'm grateful for having a "creative" outlet to turn to. I'm also grateful for feedback on my creations, because it helps to know that WE are all connected on so many various levels of "thinking", "creating", and "SEEing".

HUGS ~
Rene

It is comforting to know that other people are experiencing life the way I do.
Well done. Thank you for writing it.

Hi Milissa ~ Many who have read this poetic piece have responded the way you just did. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I do hope that out of all that you have experienced thus far in life, you remember that there is a flip side within reach that is a 360 degree turn from any depression that each of us will experience at any given point in our lives -- and then some in some cases ~ l o l.

HUGS to you my friend ~
Rene

That is really good!

Hi Sherry ~ Good to see you, and thank you.

Thanks. I've lived it.

Hi Leo ~ I think WE ALL HAVE or will if we haven't yet. It is just a reminder out of the pages of many a memory book. I'm so glad that many reading this poetic work can identify and feel the movement of this.

I want to thank you for taking the time to read this and comment.

HUGS & BLESSINGS ~
Your Friend,
Rene

You describe the pain of depression very well. I could feel it. I would rather any time have a physical pain than depression. To me depression is far worse to deal with, and I don't have it often. Experienced it when I was younger and run like crazy not to ever have it again. But what I remember, you zeroed in on perfectly.

Hi Lynn ~ Thanks for viewing this literary poetic work, and for your input...

I'd rather not experience physical pain or depression. ~ l o l. But I know what you're saying.

I'm going to run over to your place to SEE what you have NEW!

Good morning friend,

Not sure what I can contribute to this. I agree with lynn a. Much rather have physical pain. At least when there are shadows there is hope. Losing hope is easy when the shadows disappear and one is consumed by the darkness.

Blind Lady Liberty, I just read your comment, and it is so true that it shoved a THUD right into my middle part, but I had never thought of it like that. I will remember to be grateful for the shadows just in case. This rings a truth that we need to know.

Hi Blind Lady Liberty ~ Profound input you've provided about SHADOWS. I've never thought of HOPE in relation to SHADOWS ~ or rather the lack thereof ~ being a sign of consumption by darkness.

Thank you for reading this poetic work, and for your contribution -- you've given me fuel for another writing.

HUGS ~
Your Friend,
Rene

Rene, I am so impressed with these snippets. And, as with this particular snippet, and the thoughts coming out because of it, there are some good life lessons here. This was well worth reading. All of the snippets have been.

Hi Rene' and lynn,

I do hope this understanding is form observation and not personal experience. It makes my heart sink when people "know" what I am talking about especially when my hands omit all of what my thoughts were thinking.

"At least when there are shadows there is a light of hope" is what I meant to write.

I hope you are all doing well.

Please forgive me if I do not comment on everything you write but I do read everything from my friends. Shadows are long in my life so it is usually a tough subject to comment on.

Great big squishy Teddy bear hugs to you too.

Thank you for being my friend.

So glad you stopped back by BLL...

Your hands are the tools for your Maker's use, and you are using them well I might add.

I understood you to mean what you came back to relay . . .

"At least when there are shadows there is a light of hope" is what I meant to write." ~ Blind Lady Liberty

Maybe you can lead me to some of your writings on the "shadows" in your life (if you have any here in Gatherland). I'd like to read them.

I'm a pretty "Joyful" person for the most part, but I'd be a full~fledged liar if I said I had no idea of what "shadows" were about. There are plenty of people running around, walking around, and lounging around FULL of "SHADOWS" -- and some of them in the worst way...

Anyone with any 'sensitivity' whatsoever will be AWARE of the presence of "shadows". They are dark spirits that overtake the "living" in the word ~ LIFE. . .

And, if allowed, "shadows" will linger and GROW. They can become what they were destined to be ~ deadly.

That is the reason WHY "Shadows" have to be recognized and eradicated.

LIFE is for the LIVING . . .

and

SHADOWS are for the DEAD.

HUGS to you BLL!

Hi Lynn ~ I'm so glad to hear that you are impressed with Snippets! WE WRITE in "30" words or less in the Snippets Gather Group, and this particular writing ~ "SHADOWS of DEPRESSION" is an elongated version of my 3rd entry into Our 2nd Snippets CHALLENGE on the topic of SHADOWS.

I'm glad to receive all comments because it always is edifying knowing that at least you can receive honest feedback from your friends on your writings. And you know that you have friends when they take the time ~ like you just did ~ to view your writings and comment. So I thank you very much.

I'm enjoying reading the feedback too ~ lol...THANK YOU.

Beautiful brilliant poetry

Thanks Noble. I think the same about your poetics ~ L O L.

Blessings & Thanks for stopping by.

I can always count on my shawdow

What a thought d d.

Thanks for adding in that note to ponder.

10+ for shadow dancing!!

Hey ~ Hey Michelle! ~ All of the Snippets Crew Members were SHADOW~DANCING up a storm during Our 2nd Snippets CHALLENGE on the topic of SHADOWS. You know WE are expecting to SEE your Snippets on the topic of "Dinner for Two" (courtesy of Snippets Crew Member Marianne K.) in NOVEMBER!

Thanks for dropping a bone on this thread! Ahahahah!

HUGS to ya!

When the light breaks, the shadow retreats.
Thanks for posting to my group, Anythingwriting

So TRUE Angela. Thanks for adding in that thought.

And, you know you're welcome. I love your Gather Group!

I identified with this one the first time you posted it. This time it made me expand my thoughts to the shadowy darker days of winter. My depression is always lurking in the background but during the colder months it to shadow me even more. The moodiness of winter is already hitting me and it is only October. I am going to have to be more diligent about not letting those shadows take over me.

Hi Linda T. ~ Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, and read this writing...

I know what you mean about WINTER and "depression". You can also find such BEAUTY in WINTER ~ The Snow with its softly falling flakes blanketing everything with a cozy fire to bring warmth. And, if you are a Writer, WINTER is the BEST time to WRITE. It allows quiet time to really lay out your thoughts. Journaling is excellent therapy for keeping away depressive thoughts ~ and even when they appear, you can use them as fuel for writing!

It is a known fact that WINTER can bring about "depression". It also (in many cases) has a lot to do with the time of the HOLIDAYS and FAMILY ~ or the memories of FAMILY that is no longer present. FAMILY arguing and being difficult ~ acting ugly ~ being out~of~sorts and the like . . . ALL part of this thing WE call LIFE.

TRUST me ~ WRITING really does work WONDERS ~ and in some cases ...

M I R A C L E S!

HUGS my dear Friend Linda ~ You are never alone in your thoughts.

Your Friend,
Rene

Your talent never ceases to amaze me.
My heart ached from the photo and again with your words.

Hey Carrie! I've been missing you around Gatherland. I must stop by your place...

Thank you for your kind words on this literary poetic piece. You know, I have to say, I ached too when I wrote it. That happens sometimes wherein I can feel every word...even though when I start out writing, I never know what is going to come out. I simply look at the visual and connect to it...then I let the writing just f l o w. I can't say that it comes from "me" ~ It is a "gift" from God to be able to write wherein others can read, relate, reflect, and relay their thoughts about and from the writing.

It surprises me too Carrie ~ L O L!

Thanks Rene.

This I really relate to, so well put.

Thank you Paul and Diane for taking the time to read this literary poetic piece.

Diane ~ So many of the Readers can relate to this piece ~ It shows just how much WE ALL have in common.

HUGS to you both!

Renee
I know when something is a good read for me ,when I have to read it more than once.
Reading more than once is really how one's poem should truly be...to take in not the words of rhyme or of the flow of rhythm ...but what is not said .....Great !
The best i have seen......feeling and knowing that we do not welcome depression either..lol

Hi Korak ~ I thank you so much for your comments.

Adding to what you've said about "depression" . . .

I don't think that anyone welcomes "depression". I also think that some people are "depressed", and don't even realize it. I've seen plenty of people who are walking "shells". They are continually "unhappy". Disillusioned by life and life's challenges. Some are surrounded by the wrong people ~ living in the wrong places ~ missing out on their heart's desires because they may not be inspired to PUSH FORTH or BRAKE OUT of the mundane ~ $ or not.

Have you ever seen a person or heard a person say that they felt "STUCK"? Like being on a life square with writer's block ~ that's what being "stuck" is like. . .

Some people get "stuck" because of a happening and/or happenings in their life, and have a hard time moving forward. Be it the death of a loved one, a divorce, the loss of a child, the loss of substantial income, . . .

All of which are nothing to be ashamed of. It happens to the BEST of us, many of us, most of us ~ I'd dare say ALL of us at one time or another.

Depression is a mindset, and sometimes a spiritual overtaking in a negative way. This is sometimes brought on by the perpetual negative thoughts, words, ACTS, and deeds of a person that FINALLY MANIFEST. Sometimes those ACTS involve hooking up with the wrong person(s), frequenting the WRONG places, ADDICTIONS . . .

"It" and "those things that are not wanted nor needed" in one's life CAN BE CONQUERED, OVERCOME, and ERADICATED ~ of that, there is no doubt.

NO DEPRESSION WELCOME ~ Very good to have as a plack Korak ~ L O L,
and THANKS!

depression is like a theif in the night....we do not welcome it thats for sure..You opened my eyes to something....sometimes we do not know we are truly depressed . How can one truely define depression ? Is it the same for all ? and do we not handle it different which becomes even a worst problem ....and, and...How heavy a load can one take...not counting our actions to others in this state. I should have not drank the energy drink !
you are a beautiful humanbeing , Renee'

oh ,I did enjoy that poem ...kool1

Hey Korak ~ You said a mouth full with this line . . .

"depression is like a theif in the night." ~ Korak

That it is.

DEPRESSION tends to steal the JOY out of a person's life.

I wouldn't wish "depression" on anyone. It is a very taxing state of being.

There is a definition for depression in terms of how people react (the symptoms).

For the most part, people who are "depressed" tend to be disconnected from joyous activities and every~day living. They do not "feel" like doing much of anything. They don't feel like talking, being active, smiling, laughing, cleaning, cooking, dressing, getting out of bed... There is a lack of interest in what they may otherwise be interested in, and a lack of concern about how they "LOOK". They may also be "snappy" at times ~ irritated ~ and some have underlying "ANGER".

Depression can set in when a person continues to dwell on the negative over and over in their mind. Past hurts, slights, arguments, and in some cases death of loved ones and loss of a long held job, or something that they loved doing suddenly isn't there to do anymore -- like going to visit a certain friend, or relative . . . BETRAYAL is also cause for many a depressed soul. FINANCIAL problems are also causes for a person spiraling into depression...being overwhelmed with day~to~day challenges, and being too worn out and worn down to face them with the VIGOR that is needed to eliminate any problems.

There is so much more that can be added to the reasons and causes of "depression" -- many here in this Gather Group can definitely add to this list that I just gave.

THANK YOU Korak for your kind words, and for adding so much to Our Group.

Renee' ;
It is strange that being ADHD..although my mind has slowed down quite a bit finding no depression by changing directions. I was bit by a snake years back finding I was a manic depressive..I freaked out. I am always on a high in life..with small lows. My doctor told me they had pills to fix me on this to make me normal..I said hell no! My highs make me happy most the time ,meeting anyone the first time as a long lost friend..I know not much of this depression .But if it is my opposite then I feel sorry for them. I do get sad ...sometimes I make myself feel the pain of others to write poems.
This depression has so many stadges...one is what level is it 1 through 10.
the other is our genitic background on how we cope with this. We can not treat all the same way . In my life having many friends committ sucide . Everyone that i was close to...I never saw it coming.
It is a monster of a virus that starts hidden somewhere inside us all. It is how we choose to handle this thief .

You Renee' write this like you know this thief ...do you ?

Hi Korak ~ You're not ADHD. It is simply a label. One which you never have to pick up and take on at any time.

The snake bite ~ I'd like to hear more from you about how that happened.

Pills for fixing I am not a fan of, and I SEE that you aren't either ~ l o l.

The "thief" called "depression" ~ I WRITE a lot of things as if I personally KNOW ~ that is the "gift" of the pen, and a "gift" from God to be able to tap into places you have never personally gone. To be able to "feel" and "sense" and actually witness the pain, conditions, and situations of others is too a "gift" ~ although not always comfortable, it is what it is. EMPATHY being a component in it all.

I've been around many who are many things ~ including depressed. You don't have to personally experience something to KNOW of it, and tell of it, and to write of it.

WE are ALL capable of tapping into the Spirit and KNOWING, SEEING, and UNDERSTANDING.

You've said one thing Korak that I found interesting ~ "...sometimes I make myself feel the pain of others to write poems."

I'd like to ask you if you "make yourself feel" or if "you feel because it is your nature to "feel" " ~ or is it God Who is the MAJOR FACTOR in your "feeling"?

I agree with you that depression is a monster of a virus, and that it is how we choose to handle this thief that makes the difference. Or, if we choose to "touch not ~ taste not ~ handle not"...

. . . just write about it.

Renee ...the more we talk ,the more I love you as a person, smart person.
ADHD...I acccept this not to say as it is for me to hear..I move still to quickly in dangerous spots in work or life. I do get blind spots ,looking not to see what I seek....right in front of me...So it is a label I have to accept .

The snake bite is a very good story and long. The saving of a dogs life I befriended from heading off to dog pound to be put asleep . It is how I was blessed with Sam, my dog now by following this FLOW . A water Mocassin attacking the dog and her puppies...The story leads to radiation treatments and belly shots because the snake bite me coming out of hibernation..filled with venom but BACTERIA....auugh.
I believe that all has the gift of KNOWING also . IF we say GOD created the trees,bushes,rivers and oceans would not his blessing be everywhere ?

I am not a special person...lol ;far from it .

This feeling I believe is all of my doing . when wanting to reflect on my past or others pain...like my poem..Windows of the bedridden .I believe GOD or our soul or whatever touches us not when asked !
It tiss I Captain ...........

Hi Korak ~ It is a label that you do not have to accept . . . ADHD (for those who are wondering what that is) . . ., The DEFINITION (background) about it is:

Everyone's brain uses various natural chemicals to help send messages across the nervous system. It is thought that when two of these chemical “messengers” are out of balance, the inattentive and hyperactive/impulsive symptoms of ADHD can result.

The key here is "out of balance". Balance can be taken care of through proper nutrition and diet. While some use medications for treatment, there are natural ways to balance the natrual chemicals of the nervous system within the body.

Music Therapy is also helpful to calm "hyperactivity". Meditation is also useful.

The snake bite incidents sounds very intense Korak.

I HEAR you Korak. {smiles}.

Rene..
I am the same as you except my mind moved in all directions thinking.It made learning a little more difficult but allowed me to see this GOD FLOW in life.He has a reason sometimes not knowing the outcome. I remember starting college with indoctrination class having to walk through the math lab. Two years later upon graduation the math lab teacher approached me saying. That seeing me walk pass the first day saying to herself that this boy will not be back in here. I spent my two years in there.lol ! Things to learn sometimes are hard to understand but when doing so come at great ease. I usually excell in anything I do.I learned to cope with this working harder than most.I can weld, lay brick. electrician...crane operator ,roughneck, oil field...so I have learned to accept this but it does not make me crazy. It gave me a better memory. GOD spared my life to live to enjoy his fruits and loved ones. If taken early these experiences would never had happen. That is why the night I woke up to death in my bedroom stays in my mind ..because I never woke up like that ever again...I have had lots of sleeps in 54 years. I thank you..ADHD ..I do say this but in reference ..I put no limits to it.People cry out..Oh, let him be he has a problem.We knew of none of this but I went throught the school system and life..NO LIMITS and did OK !
These things you say..music.meditation are great but know knew back then.I am alright with age being my answer. I am a late bloomer in life enjoying so much around.
All my brothers were alright being born in Carolina.I was born in San Diego ,Calif. My mother almost died having me..She promised me to the Lord to spare her life. This is what I am told. GOD has a plan for me my lovely Rene' .
This is why I live alone now watching this FLOW move among us. I need to be ready for where he wants me to do whatever. I am gifted with strength and speed looking 40ish with no graying of the hairs..lol ! I am or like to think that I am GOD's own little warrior. So I say with my love..GOD BLESS you for all that you do ...GOD does see everything.
Non GOD believers cry out why does GOD let all this stuff happen to us...We have pushed GOD out of our schools and work place..We told GOD to leave us alone...Now times are bad...we cry out where are you..WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES..WE NEED TO GET RIGHT WITH GOD AGAIN...They will bow when the shit hits the fan...Something bad is going to happen in the next three years....be ready !

Hi Korak ~ I'm taking the last part of what you said first . . ."WE NEED TO GET RIGHT WITH GOD AGAIN...They will bow when the shit hits the fan...Something bad is going to happen in the next three years....be ready ! " . . .

Something BAD is always happening Korak ~ all around the globe. Your point being that everyone needs to get right with God. I agree. Everyone needs to get right with others and the world around them as well. EVERYONE. If WE ALL did this one thing, wouldn't the world be a better place indeed. . . Just get RIGHT.

Some have pushed God out of the schools, and some have pushed God out of the workplace. But the fact is, God can not be pushed out of the vessels wherein He takes us residence. Whether they walk through the valley of the shadow of death ~ low, He is there.

Rene' yes he is always near but the cries from all will soon come . I know about the world because I have been to third world countries many years ago. We eat our hot dogs in the park when injustice runs rampid around the world. People die for no reason but Hate or being starved .This has always happened..I say three years because now it will be where they all feel the bite in there own backyard.
I like my president Obama..I do not follow politics so it is my gut on what I hear him say. But he will be judge harshly for these four years trying to undo the damage that was done before he took office..He needs another 4 years for ones to then to judge. This mess might take one 16 years ..lol !

I believe he will be fought to remove him because he has pissed off the rich....I am scared that if he is gone not to finish what he started then..we will see hell at our front door. Thats what I mean in three years.

GOD... he is near all but if things are bad can we blame him to stop and watch .....because we have shoved him from our homes...children dance with rings in there noses and ears...satan is tattooed on bodies..we took prayer from our schools and work places...Ohare vs New York...I remember that but where is she..someone shot her......we have shootings in our schools...GOD will never leave the ones that want him ,that is true !
But didn't sodom have only a family ,Lott to escape the destruction of a entire city. There are fewer ,and fewer believing in a time of Hell...I just feel that the hell is coming..and coming soon .
but you are right again..lovely Rene"

Hi Korak ~ Sodom and Gomorrah were both cities that were destroyed by God because of perverted behavior ~ vice ~ corruption ~ and wickedness. Sodom was located in ancient Palestine, near the Dead Sea, and Gomorrah was a city close by. The city of Gomorrah was destroyed by fire.

What was happening in those two cities is a repeat of what we are seeing today. You've touched on some of it in your comment above. The fact that many do not have any concept of Who God is, what Prayer is about, and what morality is. Many young people have missing parents who feel it more important to run the streets and to have relationship after relationship versus spending time with and paying attention to their children. Many fathers without a concept of fatherhood, responsibility, or accountability in relation to parenting. Sad ~

It is great talking with you Korak.

lol..i didnt know how to spell the other city....thank you...so much!

Yeah ~ it's a tough one Korak. I haven't won any spelling bees myself, ~ L O L ~ so I feel you!

oh my rene' i read what you said on that video..The one talking about jews and buildings erected for satan so to speak..but did that man..Freeman have a hitler mustach ?
And was that all about fear. all christians know that GOD walks with all ! I have no time for that kind of stuff. I am not worried but it seemed they were putting down the jews...??? They labled them as owning the movie Industry...so if one works hard to own something. then they deserve that the thing they worked for..they Labled a class of people. I do not know because I am ignorant of such things..I think Jerry was off base on christians .

Hey Korak ~ I have some issues with the video, but I couldn't really see it in total, because it kept stopping. Some of the things that were said were questionable. I try to watch it again to see if it will play right.

I didn't pay attention to the mustache ~ ahaha!

I too have a problem when people label a group of people as all having the same mind and actions. That is of course not the case at any time.

I think I missed some of the comments. I'll have to go back and read them all. The comments are always so interesting aren't they!

i watched it all the way through..it stops to load up,you'll have to wait it out. I listnen then I went back to listnen again but not on content just the outter layers...I picked up alot on the Jews before they spoke of this book and stuff. listnen to the begining of what they say,,,then it shifts to the religious aspect of the book and what fear they promote...Something does not feel or seem right about any of this....I walk with GOD so I fear not...so it is a wast of precious time.
Not one to judge but they seem to be of the white supremcy group..I do not know...they did label a group..first red flag !

Korak ~ I have to agree with you that this particular video did not sit right for some reason or another. Thanks for giving your feedback on it.

[Of course, we are talking totally off the subject of this particular writing ~ l o l ~ but some of the folks on this thread know what we're referring to].

True...if it was an essay or a write..look how they start off in there talking...quickly about how the jews were taking over the movie industry..How does that have to do with anything..referring that they have gain some kind of strong hold??? makes no sense...I see rasism !
Where does one find rasism...home...fear....they were totally after the jews on any level making me believe it was a white supremcy action.
Feed the fear.......and of all topics the jewish people..not all jews are in the movie business. then switching to the religion..I saw hate !

That's an interesting observation Korak. I'll have to try to view the video again without it stopping on me. I'll let you know more over on the thread on PROPHETIC PULSE ~ A Paradigm Shift about this video. There are some really GOOD DISCUSSIONS going on over there!

please..i try to look for red flags...on content. The theme was jews..and evil...lol !

I appreciate the poem. I have seen the shadows.

Oh Leo ~ Just the way you wrote those words makes me pause.

You have a story to tell that will be very refreshing and healing to many people. I hope that you know that.

I'm one who loves to hear what your thoughts are on different topics. I hope that you never feel a need to silence your voice. I really do.

Thank you so much for reading this and leaving your thoughts.

There are SHADOWS, and then there are DARK DEEP DEPTHS...

I think I'll write about the latter. WE know that one has to descend in order to ascend. It is Universal Law.

only one way to go ~ U P /

HUGS!