I would hope these members were asked if Gather could release their monetary earnings in this news item? Personally, I don't think it's anyones business what I earn here except for the IRS!
I was raised Luthern by my stepmom..Luckily I had a mom who raised m in other churches to learn the love.
Heck, my stepmom still hasa problem with me going to a Methodist church 1200 miles away from home. Instead of a Luthern base on. But what I explained to her is in my area. Even thou it says Methodist on the out side..many members come from other churches to. Thats what you gt when you have tons of visitors and snow birds in your state.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were NOT asked permission. I'll believe whether or not they were asked to be quoted in this specific press release when I hear it from them.
And we all know that with the dramatic points earnings cut, they won't be making the $1,000,000 payout announcement for many, many years to come. If Gather lasts that long....
Sassy, I received an e-mail from Gather last week asking me to talk about points. They said they would be using a few select quotes for an upcoming press release. So Gather specifically requested those quotes.
So let me get this straight.....it's OK for Gather to make money off US,(news,advertising,etc), BUT , they are making it harder for us to make money off THEM???? Hmmmmmm, doesn't seem right to me;)
For now I am just going to consider myself lucky to be a part of Gather, because most social sites don't give their users anything at all. Myspace makes TONS of money but they don't share a cent with their members. Same with Facebook. The only DECENT social site I am aware of besides Gather that gives their members anything is Cafemom- they have contests and stuff sometimes.
So far my points have remained steady (the increase) from what was going on a few weeks ago so I'm not suffering just yet (I've never consistently made 100 points a day though).
I know you never said I was stupid or lame or an opinionated b*tch. If you're reading this as I implied you said such a personal insult, then you are wrong!! ha-ha!! I have not problem with calling that comment lame, it was meant to be smart *ss anyway. My display name--well, ask my friends, I get a lot silly sometimes.
You've been here 3 months. You didn't witness all the half-baked updates and upgrades, the protests, the wars (not little between-a-couple-of-people disputes, but group warfare), how many times questions at the Help Forum have been completely ignored or answered with nebulous replies. A member gets jaded after awhile as to what management is really up to, what they'll do next.
I have never once said that they should not make money off of it or complained about how much money they do make, because I have no idea how much they make.
My whole point in objecting to how much they decreased the points earnings is that quite a few of my friends are talking about leaving. They wouldn't be saying that if the points hadn't been cut. I realize times are rough and probably that way for Gather. But if lots of people leave, will ther be a Gather?
If people did not complain, stated their opinions on how they felt, Gather management would not realize what we want changed. You said yourself that the place could use some improving. I believe you called the post editor "rubbish"
It's typical commercial hype. The earnings sound like a lot until you figure out that it's 2 or 3 years of earnings. When you realize it's not even $100 month, it's real.
I know the one was asked and granted permission. Tom mentioned it in his post the other day. I can't speak for the other but I would assume if one was asked, they were both asked.
I wouldn't mind if they mentioned the thousands of dollars I've earned on Gather since I've been a member...even without persmission. I'd also like them to do that now...to see my daily totals the way they were before the 'new move'...to a lousy dime a day now...and that's for being on 10 or more hours. Hello? Making a penny an hour??? How long do they think I or anyone else is going to stick around for such a 'great' payback? I can make more than a quarter by picking up empty bottles and cans off the street. Spening 10 hours a day doing that; I'd be making a lot more than I did here even before the change. Hmmm...now there's an idea. Dump Gather and collect empties.
I hope you are right. But you've probably noticed that right now there are a lot of people who are here only for the points. I'm not saying anything against that, some of them are quite strapped financially and every cent helps
Hmmmmm, interesting story. I wonder if that place would be interested in the story about the rest of us, who thought we were producing good quality stuff, and now basically found out that we don't matter.
I was very calm today until I read the quote from the third person, last 2 sentences. That burns my butt. I'm sorry, but I feel that she is the new breed of PW's.
If a long-time, active member who creates quality niche content that consistently brings thousands of views to the site (and contributes to keeping it viable) is the new breed of point whore, I'm all for it. Sure as hell beats the old breed of point whore. PIF!
I think they should have put freaking a spell check option on here!!! I dont write many posts,and even when I do, I dont recve a whole lot of feedback, (to those that always comment I want to thank you!!!! Please do not think I take it for granted at all!!!) I just write things that a lot of people probably just dont wish to read, and for me that is cool, writing is my therapy, and I can do it, without paying someone to sit across from me nodding their head and hopping up as soon as my 45min is up.. ok, yes I went to a place a couple of times, and found out that I am not crazy!!! yep, I couldnt believe it either!!! LOL
anyway, what I was fixing to say, is, I comment more than I write, I view peoples pictures, and I love to read peoples articles, posts, and stories, but, Gather, did start the site, with the idea, that if you joined, and if you COMMENTED, and posted things, you would earn points... This past week, I have earned a total of 2 points!!!!
I think that is rediculous!! I mean, 2 points for spending a couple of hours every day on here, reading other peoples posts, which, I enjoy, but, if you say you are going to do something, I dont really think it is fair, to stop doing it.... I dont know what those folks do on Gather, but, I have never made 100.00, on here, and I have been a member for a couple of years, again, it is because I comment more than I write.....
I dont see, how Gather can do that at all, if new people come here, they are going to be highly disappointed and Gather might find that they have swallowed more than they can chew
I like Gather, I like my friends on here, I like they are friendly and supportive, and there are some really wonderful writers on here, but, again, I think that if you tell people that you are going to earn some amazing points for posting and COMMENTING, then, you cant have folks commmenting for hours to look up and see that they have earned nothing for the day
I will still be here, because of what I do like, I just kind of feel like I have been cheated somehow, since I no longer earn points at all.. I mean, 2 points this week????
Think of it this way, John...a pound of aluminum cans brings you in 75 cents. It takes 32 cans to make up a pound. Those same 32 cans, at a nickel deposit redemption, gets you $1.60. It's much better to take them back to the store than recycle them profit-wise.
I don't know what we are getting a pound here right now but it isn't much. I had 3 garbage bags crammed full and got $3 last wk. We don't have a deposit here in WA either so no redemption option.
I am almost certain that at least one of those people gave permission because it was said on Tom's chat thread about point changes, at least for that post anyway. I'm sure she would want to share that info with the world.
I do not believe that Gather would release this information without the permission of the member. Not only would it violate corporate ethics, but perhaps their privacy policy as well.
Interesting. It sounds so good in print, and then reality bites you in the butt. People are going to think ' hey this is great ', get here and learn the truth. Does anyone else hear bells tolling?
The more and more I am on Gather, the more the option of collecting cans as Rob mentioned, is beginging to sound better. I could make out better. Heck I have a state park right across the street with a camp ground. Think I couldn't scrounge up a boatload of cans? Not that I know what the going rate here in ky is for them, but its got to be better money wise than this. These points are at a near standstill now. Grant you I do enjoy reading many articles here. and giving my 2 cents worth on most of them. Ocassionally I find a topic and time for a post. But even with post I am finding that my points are hardly moving. I am really thinking that downsizing my time on Gather is my best option, or finding another site, if possible. I do appreciate the fact I can earn points, don't get me wrong, however, it is requiring more time, to earn a lot less, and somehow it doesn't make sense. I will be surprized, that if Gather keeps this new point system, if they don't in time lose more, than they gain in the long run. For Gather's sake I hope I am wrong.
Sorry Robyn, I kinda stray from your oringinal post and got caught up in the coversation I guess. I do believe they were asked for permission. I can't see Gather or Tom being stupid enough, not too. I think there would have been to many ramifications, if they didn't.
I did go to the links, then check out the participants, One of them wrote an article, publically saying they gave permission to quote them. I wish I could do that well. Not enough hours in the day.
Gather Members Exceed $500,000 in Total Earnings by Redeeming Gather Points™
Ha... some dumbass is going to read that and think they can make $500,000. (someone would have to inform them that at this rate it would take almost ten years. lol)
Ok I am going to be tacky here and show my Gather 'panties'. I have been a member here since Sep 29, 2006, I spent almost a year away after the death of our son during that time and to date I have made $825.00 and won a $25 Borders gift card on something somewhere along the way.
That figures out to 33 months at 25.75 a month. if you don't include the year I was away it brings me up to $40.47 a month. I don't know about you but I sure ain't getting rich so it must be the people that keep me coming back. LOL
Well, I don't know much and I ain't Lutheran, but I gots to agree with Peter here first. Tacky, Tacky, Tacky. Just isn't done, I know I would never do it even if I had made anything worth talking about!
I guess Gather has their poster girls, good for them. Just keeps becoming more and more clear how valued of a member I am here. Sheez..............I already had issues, so a big thank you to them there, lol
Disheartening it is to say the least. The robotic tasks of filling out boring and frustrating surveys one after the other all day, as I do sit here all day make no mistake, starts looking a hell of a lot more attractive. I must be valued to them for filling them out because I do still get rewarded for it, would do a lot better with just them than I did with Gather before the changes, but I didn't prefer it. Gather became my community. Surveys don't insult me though, and I am broke now, makes more sense to consider earning something and not being hurt than to continue here. This do reek, don't know yet, only know I lost me heart
I would hope they were asked permission, BUT if they had posted that info in one of their articles, perhaps Gather would not have had to ask permission ???
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It does seem a little wacky that the powers that be, would do this, but if it gets them the PR they need, they saw it as a "by all means". Good post Robyn.
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I was raised Lutheran and to mention money was the ultimate in tacky.
If Tom was raised Lutheran ... SHAME ON HIM !!!!
(otherwise, nevermind)
Hey, I'm Lutheran, too.........but, well, I'm also non-denominational!!!!! Much prefer non-denominational these days!!
I was RAISED Right Wing Evangelical Lutheran ... then I grew up.
I was raised Luthern by my stepmom..Luckily I had a mom who raised m in other churches to learn the love.
Heck, my stepmom still hasa problem with me going to a Methodist church 1200 miles away from home. Instead of a Luthern base on. But what I explained to her is in my area. Even thou it says Methodist on the out side..many members come from other churches to. Thats what you gt when you have tons of visitors and snow birds in your state.
I'm sure they gave permission, since they are quoted and all.
I also think that they only quoted people who gave permission.
I'm sure Gather cleared it with the ones mentioned befor sharing their information since the info share was in the forms of quotes from members.
They were all asked permission.
well thats good.........at least one of them got the attention she craves;)
Do I sense some "claws" coming out, Robyn??? LOL
just a simple observation:)
I wouldn't be surprised if they were NOT asked permission. I'll believe whether or not they were asked to be quoted in this specific press release when I hear it from them.
And we all know that with the dramatic points earnings cut, they won't be making the $1,000,000 payout announcement for many, many years to come. If Gather lasts that long....
"I wouldn't be surprised if they were NOT asked permission"
Boy, wouldn't that be something? what with gathers stan' on getting 'permission' and all:)
Sassy, I received an e-mail from Gather last week asking me to talk about points. They said they would be using a few select quotes for an upcoming press release. So Gather specifically requested those quotes.
So let me get this straight.....it's OK for Gather to make money off US,(news,advertising,etc), BUT , they are making it harder for us to make money off THEM???? Hmmmmmm, doesn't seem right to me;)
For now I am just going to consider myself lucky to be a part of Gather, because most social sites don't give their users anything at all. Myspace makes TONS of money but they don't share a cent with their members. Same with Facebook. The only DECENT social site I am aware of besides Gather that gives their members anything is Cafemom- they have contests and stuff sometimes.
So far my points have remained steady (the increase) from what was going on a few weeks ago so I'm not suffering just yet (I've never consistently made 100 points a day though).
Tony must be a personal friend of Tom's
Oh, wait!! Another lame opinion/assumption on my part. Bad on me!!
Um, yah! I must be the "Stupid" one. Thanks!!!
Oh, oh!! Idea for new display name:
Sassy "Stupid & Opinionated Bitch" Cat
thank you, Tony! You obviously wouldn't know "facetious" if it bit your butt.
Just what Gather needs --- another cheerleader.
Sassy, you might want to make sure a little bird sees this.
Hey, Brenda!
I'm not sure which little bird you are referring to, but I already tweeted it to a couple of people. ;o)
I'm sure Robyn would not mind the points from a couple extra views. *snicker*
I like opinionated bitches.
I know you never said I was stupid or lame or an opinionated b*tch. If you're reading this as I implied you said such a personal insult, then you are wrong!! ha-ha!! I have not problem with calling that comment lame, it was meant to be smart *ss anyway. My display name--well, ask my friends, I get a lot silly sometimes.
You've been here 3 months. You didn't witness all the half-baked updates and upgrades, the protests, the wars (not little between-a-couple-of-people disputes, but group warfare), how many times questions at the Help Forum have been completely ignored or answered with nebulous replies. A member gets jaded after awhile as to what management is really up to, what they'll do next.
Because I have friends here.
It is as simple as that.
Real friends who share their lives here. We enjoy viewing each others' photos and essays.
I have never once said that they should not make money off of it or complained about how much money they do make, because I have no idea how much they make.
My whole point in objecting to how much they decreased the points earnings is that quite a few of my friends are talking about leaving. They wouldn't be saying that if the points hadn't been cut. I realize times are rough and probably that way for Gather. But if lots of people leave, will ther be a Gather?
If people did not complain, stated their opinions on how they felt, Gather management would not realize what we want changed. You said yourself that the place could use some improving. I believe you called the post editor "rubbish"
It's typical commercial hype. The earnings sound like a lot until you figure out that it's 2 or 3 years of earnings. When you realize it's not even $100 month, it's real.
And with gathers new 'rules' and point system, they sure wont be able to brag like this anymore.
well o my and wow =O
Thanks for posting to GutterGirls~
This 'press release' news item is just one way gather is making THEIR share of earnings from US!!!!
Good - we don't want the place to go belly up.
(I don't, anyway)
I am just glad for the advertising! sassy---maybe more people will join~! =more ads =more points !
Since there were quotes I'm sure they were asked.
Hmmmm, that's very interesting!!!
Thank you for posting this. I didn't know gather gave out information on earnings.
Interesting the way stats can be used to make a point.
I know the one was asked and granted permission. Tom mentioned it in his post the other day. I can't speak for the other but I would assume if one was asked, they were both asked.
I wouldn't mind if they mentioned the thousands of dollars I've earned on Gather since I've been a member...even without persmission. I'd also like them to do that now...to see my daily totals the way they were before the 'new move'...to a lousy dime a day now...and that's for being on 10 or more hours. Hello? Making a penny an hour??? How long do they think I or anyone else is going to stick around for such a 'great' payback? I can make more than a quarter by picking up empty bottles and cans off the street. Spening 10 hours a day doing that; I'd be making a lot more than I did here even before the change. Hmmm...now there's an idea. Dump Gather and collect empties.
Right! And how many new members are going to stick with almost no rewards?
What do aluminum cans go for these days by the pound?
Dog... get your leash, we're going can hunting, LOL.
LOL @ John!!
I don't see many cans along the roadside anymore. They have become too valuable to throw away
Oh my I need to hide all those cans we picked up at camosites, either that or cash them in
Rob, I'm glad you popped in here. I was wondering how the new system affected your earnings, since you were doing so well.
Tony,
I hope you are right. But you've probably noticed that right now there are a lot of people who are here only for the points. I'm not saying anything against that, some of them are quite strapped financially and every cent helps
You could email Monica and ask her if she was asked....
i did, she was....thank you .....
Hmmmmm, interesting story. I wonder if that place would be interested in the story about the rest of us, who thought we were producing good quality stuff, and now basically found out that we don't matter.
Oh, oh!! Brenda is sharpening her claws. I have never seen Brenda so p*ssed off. ;o)
I was very calm today until I read the quote from the third person, last 2 sentences. That burns my butt. I'm sorry, but I feel that she is the new breed of PW's.
Monica!? "The new breed of PW's"!?
If a long-time, active member who creates quality niche content that consistently brings thousands of views to the site (and contributes to keeping it viable) is the new breed of point whore, I'm all for it. Sure as hell beats the old breed of point whore. PIF!
I think they should have put freaking a spell check option on here!!! I dont write many posts,and even when I do, I dont recve a whole lot of feedback, (to those that always comment I want to thank you!!!! Please do not think I take it for granted at all!!!) I just write things that a lot of people probably just dont wish to read, and for me that is cool, writing is my therapy, and I can do it, without paying someone to sit across from me nodding their head and hopping up as soon as my 45min is up.. ok, yes I went to a place a couple of times, and found out that I am not crazy!!! yep, I couldnt believe it either!!! LOL
anyway, what I was fixing to say, is, I comment more than I write, I view peoples pictures, and I love to read peoples articles, posts, and stories, but, Gather, did start the site, with the idea, that if you joined, and if you COMMENTED, and posted things, you would earn points... This past week, I have earned a total of 2 points!!!!
I think that is rediculous!! I mean, 2 points for spending a couple of hours every day on here, reading other peoples posts, which, I enjoy, but, if you say you are going to do something, I dont really think it is fair, to stop doing it.... I dont know what those folks do on Gather, but, I have never made 100.00, on here, and I have been a member for a couple of years, again, it is because I comment more than I write.....
I dont see, how Gather can do that at all, if new people come here, they are going to be highly disappointed and Gather might find that they have swallowed more than they can chew
I like Gather, I like my friends on here, I like they are friendly and supportive, and there are some really wonderful writers on here, but, again, I think that if you tell people that you are going to earn some amazing points for posting and COMMENTING, then, you cant have folks commmenting for hours to look up and see that they have earned nothing for the day
I will still be here, because of what I do like, I just kind of feel like I have been cheated somehow, since I no longer earn points at all.. I mean, 2 points this week????
I was making 115 points per day before. Now it's about 1-2 per hour.
Interesting. The quotes from members seem to indicate that they were, indeed, asked.
Think of it this way, John...a pound of aluminum cans brings you in 75 cents. It takes 32 cans to make up a pound. Those same 32 cans, at a nickel deposit redemption, gets you $1.60. It's much better to take them back to the store than recycle them profit-wise.
Hmmm .. in this area, aluminum cans are down to $.40 at most locations. Also, there is no deposit, so no redemption option.
I don't know what we are getting a pound here right now but it isn't much. I had 3 garbage bags crammed full and got $3 last wk. We don't have a deposit here in WA either so no redemption option.
Michigan has a 10 cent deposit. It can be quite lucrative for the right kind of person.
interesting article here
I believe they were probably asked. I know that at least one of the people mentioned often talks about how much she earns online.
yeah, non-stop:)
I am almost certain that at least one of those people gave permission because it was said on Tom's chat thread about point changes, at least for that post anyway. I'm sure she would want to share that info with the world.
yep;)
I do not believe that Gather would release this information without the permission of the member. Not only would it violate corporate ethics, but perhaps their privacy policy as well.
guess I missed it
Interesting. It sounds so good in print, and then reality bites you in the butt. People are going to think ' hey this is great ', get here and learn the truth. Does anyone else hear bells tolling?
I hear them.
'ding,dong......'
Me, too!!!
I hear aluminum cans rattling..... ;-)
Since those are direct quotes, I'd imagine permission was given.
The more and more I am on Gather, the more the option of collecting cans as Rob mentioned, is beginging to sound better. I could make out better. Heck I have a state park right across the street with a camp ground. Think I couldn't scrounge up a boatload of cans? Not that I know what the going rate here in ky is for them, but its got to be better money wise than this. These points are at a near standstill now. Grant you I do enjoy reading many articles here. and giving my 2 cents worth on most of them. Ocassionally I find a topic and time for a post. But even with post I am finding that my points are hardly moving. I am really thinking that downsizing my time on Gather is my best option, or finding another site, if possible. I do appreciate the fact I can earn points, don't get me wrong, however, it is requiring more time, to earn a lot less, and somehow it doesn't make sense. I will be surprized, that if Gather keeps this new point system, if they don't in time lose more, than they gain in the long run. For Gather's sake I hope I am wrong.
each year after spring weekend at UCONN, (our university), my son would go there and get truckloads of cans and bottles...LOL!
I agree with Marianne R.
Sorry Robyn, I kinda stray from your oringinal post and got caught up in the coversation I guess. I do believe they were asked for permission. I can't see Gather or Tom being stupid enough, not too. I think there would have been to many ramifications, if they didn't.
somethings are personal
looks to me he is trying to get more business but i think it is personal tho
yikes, how uncouth
i agree!
Hi! I don't know what to say! :)
Interesting article! Thanks!
I did go to the links, then check out the participants, One of them wrote an article, publically saying they gave permission to quote them. I wish I could do that well. Not enough hours in the day.
That is not right. I can understand if the info waqs subpenaed. And even if these members gave permission, it does bode ill for us.
Were they given any compensation for "coming out of the closet as gather's"???
They are bragging about how much mmoney they have paid out, yet they have cut what we earn from page views, and comments. How sad and sick.
i agree!
I also wonder IF they will make the same under the new rules??? Somehow, I doubt it.
Even with permission it is still kind of tacky.
right! but so is one of the members they quoted;)
Two things I found a little misleading about that article:
The earnings announced doesn't indicate how long it took for those two members to earn over $2,000. Monica has been "earning" since 2006.
"Gather is the leading social network to make new friends and form new social circles"
How is it the leading social network? MySpace and Facebook are the leading, first mentioned in the top ten. I rarely see Gather mentioned anywhere!
Great points, Deb. As usual.
Ha... some dumbass is going to read that and think they can make $500,000. (someone would have to inform them that at this rate it would take almost ten years. lol)
i wouldn't want mine to be shared with the News either! yeesh! 10
Ok I am going to be tacky here and show my Gather 'panties'. I have been a member here since Sep 29, 2006, I spent almost a year away after the death of our son during that time and to date I have made $825.00 and won a $25 Borders gift card on something somewhere along the way.
That figures out to 33 months at 25.75 a month. if you don't include the year I was away it brings me up to $40.47 a month. I don't know about you but I sure ain't getting rich so it must be the people that keep me coming back. LOL
Here is how much I have Earned: $0.
I hope this changes soon as I have been active for only the past two months.
Well, I don't know much and I ain't Lutheran, but I gots to agree with Peter here first. Tacky, Tacky, Tacky. Just isn't done, I know I would never do it even if I had made anything worth talking about!
I guess Gather has their poster girls, good for them. Just keeps becoming more and more clear how valued of a member I am here. Sheez..............I already had issues, so a big thank you to them there, lol
Disheartening it is to say the least. The robotic tasks of filling out boring and frustrating surveys one after the other all day, as I do sit here all day make no mistake, starts looking a hell of a lot more attractive. I must be valued to them for filling them out because I do still get rewarded for it, would do a lot better with just them than I did with Gather before the changes, but I didn't prefer it. Gather became my community. Surveys don't insult me though, and I am broke now, makes more sense to consider earning something and not being hurt than to continue here. This do reek, don't know yet, only know I lost me heart
For someone that hates both Bridget and me you sure are concerned about what we do on here. . .
Ditto......
I would hope they were asked permission, BUT if they had posted that info in one of their articles, perhaps Gather would not have had to ask permission ???
WOW. sounds like a cat fight going on. I thought this was a sight for friends. Oh Well I guess I will get in a few myself.
Oh, from rereading the top of the page I was raised by my Mom and Dad.
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