HR 46 wold establish a national gun registry database.
It would
1. Increase requirements for purchasing firearms beyond present restrictions
2. Create a National firearms regestry overseen by the government.
3. Invoke severe penaltiess for minor bookkeeping errors related to the database.
4. Make everyone to pass a writen exam to prove that you are fit to exercise your 2d ammendment right to own a firearm.
This would require.
a. pass the examination
b. release your medical records
c. impose a 2 day waiting period for all firearm purchases
d. pay a gun tax of $25 or more on all purchases
The list goes on.
HR 45, Obama's National Gun Registry and Citizen Department Act is just a forced registration of all firearms in America.
This is more than a regestry of guns it is about control of people. The very people who represent a danger to a facist or socalist agenda.
Hitler confiscated guns because he had a list of every gun owner, address and what kind of gun they owned.
The registery was passed long before he started colleting the peoples guns.
We need to contact our Representives and get this bill defeated. It is the most restrictive measure ever proposed and is in direct violation of the Second Amendment of the Constitution.
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i think a registry is a decent idea
The thought that in Germany when Hitler proposed it. Look what happened.
Soon after getting the list he collected all the weapons. It worked well for his plans.
Then make every gun owner join a "well-regulated militia". Problem solved.
I had to register my gun when I bought it. It should be a national database Col. Helps with closing out murders and robberies or don't you think those should be solved.
The are doing a pretty darn good job solving them with the state's database now Sharon. A National database of ALL firearms is a different story and that is not all that is in HR 45
I'm for abolishing all registries.
Car registration, marriage registration, birth registration, etc...and so forth.
The government does keep a lot of records there is no reasonable excuse to keep.
I say we have done fine without this kind of intrusion into personal liberties in this country and I am against it. Our freedoms are steadily being taken from us and we seem to think it is OK.
It's another indication of the dumbing down of America to think that this a benign law.
Once they have made the second amendment nul and void they will start on Freedom of Speach. There are already many restrictions on speach (hate speach for one) and Obama wants to shut up some of the talk show hosts. How far will that go?
Of course the press is already in Obama's corner so he will lieve that alone for a while but restriction of the press will be on the agenda.
Next it will be Religion.
Let them take one of our rights and they will just take another and another.
spoken like a true fear monger. I am all for gun control, and the bill is good. Just because the Germans were too afraid to stand up to Hitler doesn't mean America will follow suit.
It is hard to defend youself unarmed Lisa. Hitler is not the only one to take away the peoples guns. Every Despot government has done it.
That Registery would give any president a list of every gun owner. That would allow for the confiscation of all guns. Guess what happens next?
The problem is that it has not been done in every circumstance. I have yet to see President Obama display any type of Despotic behavior. You are jumping to conclusions not in evidence..
Hitler didn't either when he had the people register their weapons with his government.
Join a local Tea Party and protest. Support Ron Paul and his agenda. All politics are local and we need to research local candidates and support the ones who support the Constitution!
True Brojer, very true. However we need to talk to our Senators and Representives about H R 45 as well.
I received the information on HR 45 yesterday. Evidently it is alive and well. It needs to be defeated.
Please explain to me why there is such fear and conjecture about any control of guns? Most of it makes no rational sense to me. And when one starts comparing anything done in America with Hitler or other such despots I can't help but look for an agenda not mentioned.
Why such feverishness about loosing your guns?
Maybe because it is in the Constitution we have the right to own and bear arms.
When they take away one Right they go on to take another and another. Soon you don't have a free country. Gun control is not about guns, it is about controling the people.
Obviouslly you are a city dweller. I remember you telling about all the crime in your neighborhood. You are one who should become familar with a firearm and own one. It could save your life. The police only come to clean up the mess after you are dead.
What makes you think I don't own a gun?
My problem in your thinking falls on the fact I didn't hear this same sort of clamor when Bush was peeping at our conversations without proper court orders. I can't say you were in that group cause my memory is not that great any longer but many yelled at me that if I didn't have anything to hide then why would I be concerned. That, my friend, is a constitutional matter. She the ironicness I see? Rarely do I hear from the opposition with firm concerns but a lot of "stretched" suppositions. Why would I accept your supposed "they want to take our guns away" but I should not be concerned that they dashed directly to a right we have in the constitution. Thats what make so much of the type arguments put up seem disengenous to me.
If you own a fireare and have no reasons not to, then why would this law bother you. It is not taking away anything. The only way you shouldn't own a gun is if you are mentally unstable or have been guilty of crimes that would lead people to believe you would use guns illegally. it requires people to know something about guns, since we have idiots who leave their guns where kids end up shooting themselves thinking they are toys. It makes an attempt to require at least a basic knowledge of those safety requirements. Even that is not going to solve the problems with guns, but it will make things a lot safer. Why don't you stop listening to the NRA spewed nonsense and look at it from a logical viewpoint.
Lloyd I was on your side in that one. A right is a right and the governement has no business infringing on them.
Lisa, that is what the German people thought before his brown shirts came and collected every one of them. A national Registry will not in any way make people use and store their guns safely. It will not stop carelessness and it will not make people teach their kids.
First they came and collected all the books they didn't like and burned them. Information, and access to it, were much more of a threat than firearms.
I, too, am really tired of all this "that's what they thought before Hitler took the guns" nonsense. Yes, it's wise to be vigilant in protecting one's rights. But I would be much more sympathetic to your point of view if you (guns-rights advocates) didn't react hysterically to even the most minor controls over who can own which weapons.
One can legally purchase semiautomatic and automatic rifles; the excuse is either self-protection or hunting. Are there suddenly gangs of attack deer roaming the hills? The men in my family did fine with 30-ought-6's. It has been shown again and again that a firearm is most likely to injure or kill its owner (or a family member) rather than an attacker. I swear, if the NRA had their way, every Bubba who wanted to do so could buy their 10-year-old a thermonuclear device!
Jeannie, Minor? taking away the Second Amentment would only be the start. I am suprised you can't understand that. It is not about guns it is about controlling the people.
Books could very well be next when the attack the freedom of the press.
If you don't learn from history you are a fool. Burn the people once and shame on you, Burn them twice and shame on the people.
The more I hear it the more it sounds like a disease to me. They are gonna take our guns away. They want to know who owns a gun. If they put your name on a list it is the same as Hitler did. Listen to your self and tell me that is not fear mongering at its very best.
But I keep wondering why is that your concentration is always so narrow minded. It seems you and others walk and live in a narow world where only specific concerns rile you up. You can ignore so much but those specific things explode your senses. All the constitution's amendments can be changed by the will of the people but with the mere mention of anything which regulates guns throws some into absolute mental chaos. No, you keep what ever that is which ignites your fever about guns and I'll just watch you. It used to be a good show now it has gotten past that point for me. I fear those who think like you far greater than any outside terrorist will ever stir up my emotions. What I see in not having any controls on the purchase and ownership of guns is a growing potential of mass hysteria. That crap I've been hearing about only crooks will have guns if we regulate ownership of them is another sick observation. Where do crooks get their guns? If there is no regulation of them how would anyone know that they came from your house or mine? Or would anyone care?
While you wrap yourself with the second amendment I'm going to keep fighting to keep the rest of the constitution. The whole thing makes for a good blanke to cover. Not one amendment.
Don't worry Spencer we are all there fighting to keep the Constitution with you. The attack on the Second Amendment is only one of the ways they are trashing our Constitution.
Spencer, Removing firearms is the first thing a government will do when they intend to supress the people. That is the reason for the fight.
Don't think if they are successful more will not follow
Um, when I google HR 46, I get a bill on public housing.
http://www.gop.gov/bill/111/1/hr46
Maybe you got your facts wrong (again)?
Thanks John, I changed it
must stop playing with guns lke a mad savage on a hunting spree
Eh?