IF it happens one more time....

You are right to be pissed.

Is there any way you can by-pass the system and talk directly to the problem kids parents?

i don't believe so.  If there was a way trust me i would. I think  i will ask the school for a conference with the parents

wtf? homeschool her

i wish i could, but she needs the program she is in for her delays

I wasn't trying to rag on you, I just hate the public school system.

Is there a private one you can send her to instead? 

In our schools here there is a no touching policy.  the kid would be expelled for three days ~ no questions asked. 

i wish they had that here, i understand the kids in her class has speical problems, but my child has delays, and she knows not to hit or bit

I'd be mad.  But maybe the sub didn't get the message.  but yes talk to the parents.  The parents need to get that kid under control

I would talk to the kid's parents and they can displine thier child for doing wrong.  You have every right to be upset.

My cousin was being teased by kids on the bus, really bad, and tripping him.  His mom talked to the parents of the 2 boys and got it worked out between them.  Do you know the child to be able to do that?  I know you said above you couldn't bypass the school, but if he is on the same bus, follow him home.  That sounds kinda stalkerish :)  The parents of the boys that were harassing my cousin were so embarrassed and straighted them right up.

thanks for sharing

wow if that happened to me id have a fit... either i will go to school early the next morning and have a talk with the principal... i have always told my kids to fight back, there are times that i will not be able to help them, so they need to fight back.

shit my son was bullied by 12 year olds when he was 7, and my daughter when she came home cried and told me what happened, the next day morning, i let my husband go to the school and talk to the guidance counsellor, if i had gone there i could have hit those kids myself, they let my son lick the garbage can and hit him on the head... stupid... there at the guidance office, those 12 year olds were crying and saying sorry... it never happened again.

also talk to the parents so they'll know what their child is doing, and can help her stop it and behave...

i am so sorry your son went through that.  They don't have those for her school, as she is in special ed preschool for her delays.  I just got a call from the teacher she is going to see  what they can do to help

thats good news..

Document everything and take pictures! Record the date, what happened, where, the time, etc.  The school will need this info as well in case the other kid is sent to behavior or some other special services.

great ideal!!!

i have been doing that... Thank you

Have you tried contacting the other kids parents directly??  Sometimes that fixes things when the school doesn't.

I can't, I jsut talked to her teacher and asked for a conference set up.  The teacher is going to help.  I will know more in a bit

don't let her forget. keep talking till they do something.

Yes, stay on top of it.  Is he doing this to other kids or just yours? 

i honestly am  not sure, the 1st time this little boy gave her a black eyes, this time he bit her

I think you are so right to be pissed.   Let the parents have it.

i'd be pissed too. talk to the other parents directly. if the school doesn't, go as high up as you can. usually when ppl alert the media, the school then does something.

sure enough, if it was one of my bro's kids, they would do something.

you have every right to be pissed

call the school call the school board

the IEP people

your daughter should be safe in school

Of course you are right to be pissed!!  If it was me I would call EVERYONE I could possibly think of that would pay some attention to me about this and MAKE SURE it never happened again or you are going to hold your child out of school or tell her she has the right to defend herself!  This is totally uncalled for!!!!!!  Bullying in our school systems these days has become a very hot issue and cannot be tolerated!!!

i have talked to the teacher she said she was going to help, i did ask for a conference with the kids parents, who else should i try to contact?? should i go to the school borad or give the teacher a chance to try to get this resloved???

I say give the teacher a chance.  Nancy is very nice.  I'm sure she will try and help figure it out and resolve it

thanks jenn

I'm so glad that we homeschool.  If you want to homeschool, check with your school board, for they should have the program she needs, and you can work with her from home.

In our area, if a child does this, they are removed from the bus for a week, the second offense takes them off the bus permanantly and it's up to the parents to provide the transportation.

Of course, if the child in question is a special needs child, also, that might weigh in on what is happening.  Is the child aware of what he is doing?  Does he understand that it is WRONG?  I do agree that his parents need to be involved.  Even with special needs, he shouldn't be doing this, or, if it is uncontrollable, he needs to be away from ALL children.  I'm sure if it were your child, you would be taking steps to stop HER.

Good luck with this and keep us posted, please!

I have resorted to going in to the police station and having them step in.   Took my kids with me to be questioned about the problems.   I told them I tried talking to the school and I wasn't able to talk to the parents and that probably isn't a good idea anyways, you never know, they might be mean themselves.  The school was not happy I involved the police but it made them get on the ball a little more-temporarily.

she can't homeschool her.  The preschool her daughter is in.  Is a program that helps with delays.  My twins were in the program this year.  they are graduating.  But it helped them a lot!  so she just cant homeschool or just go to a regular preschool

Some of the teachers here complain saying we wasted their time, it was such an inconvenience calling and reporting and asking for them to intervene.  The handbook says start with talking to the teacher and if that doesn't help go to the principal.  It gets old after awhile, I mean it shouldn't be happening.  The bullies get nothing and the ones defending themselves get into trouble.  It encourages the bullies.  Ok, done with my rant.

the one thing i can say is the teacher is just as upset as i am.  SHe is a great teacher, but yes i do agree with what you said about the teachers thinking we are wasting thier time by trying to talk to them

I would talk to the parents and also keep complaining to the school for as long as the problem continues.

I would file a complaint with the school and  ....

I too would be furious.  How come you have to go through the school to talk to the parents.  I'd be pounding on those peoples door in a heart beat and punching some parents.  Your poor daughter.  What kind of animal would punch a little girl and then bite her?  Yes I would file a complaint too.  Oh man, this has made me mad and she's your daughter not mine, but this is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

I just posted an update on this, but no one will give me the info the only thing I know is the kids name. . I asked the teacher about a conference on this, but she did not set on up yet.  This is total horse sh**. 

Getting angry is a natural instinct.  We all want to protect our children from any harm and move into attack mode if anything threatens them.  Keep in mind though that these children have special needs.  Each child has their own set of issues and we don't know what the other childrens limits are.  Their privacy is protected because of special ed laws.  Accomodations were in place to keep the children separated but someone did not follow through.  Efforts need to be in place to ensure that this mistake does not happen again.   I think measures may have been in place but someone slipped up.  Did the school even try to apologize for the incident or did they try to brush it away.  I like that her teacher is concerned.  The teacher may take it upon herself to ensure this does not happen again but you may want to get it in writting that these children are to be kept apart.  Sorry your daughter was hurt.

So how is it going?  Any better?  I forgot to mention, the kid we reported to the police was not a special needs child, he was just a bully.

My son was attacked a couple years ago by two kids who hurt him kind of bad.  They said those kids had poor communication skills.  They were not special needs kids but my son was.  Seems they didn't have poor communications skills to set up and plan the attack.  My son does not bully other kids.  But when he tells and they say to ignore things he will stand up and tell them off.

Best wishes.

I am a person of documentation.  I would document all the facts, just the facts and nothing more of what was being done to my child, then present it to the school officials and if they did nothing, I would keep going with my documentations to whoever takes care of things such as this until I got the problem solved.  No child needs to be subjected to bullies.  It is serious and you do have a right to be very pissed about it.

you need to see that kid is removed from the bus, the school is allowing abuse by letting this kid ride the bus, who else is he hurting?  I would tell the school you are filing charges on the kid for assult if he is not removed from the bus and also will be seeing what can be done about them allowing him to remain on the bus.  I have had to deal with stuff like this when my kids were in school, believe me in my case it only happened once before the kid was off the bus etc.

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you have every right to be angry!  Don't just call the shool GO there.  SHOW them the bite mark (take a pic if you can) that child needs to be punished or he will keep doing it!  His parents need to be informed and your child needs to be PROTECTED!

My oldest grandson would come home from daycare with horrible bite marks.  We called and complained several times to the director.  It continued to happen and he was taken out of that daycare by his Mother.

Don't blame you one bit for being upset about this.  The school buses today are violent and just downright scary.  The busses have cameras on them now.  If my kids were still elementary school age, I would probably take them to school in my car.

i worked in schools for a long time.........it is not fair but it is the way it is.....if a dad comes to school much more attention is paid to what he says..... sucks huh.....but thats the way it is.......my principal never made a dad wait...... pif

Sorry Anne. Interesting Solskin...   pif

We never had buses.  We drove in a carpool.  My cousin was a public school bus driver for many years.  She took discipline seriously and also passed out little toys and treats to her kids.  It's a tough job.  If the kids know the driver likes them, they will be more inclined to be obedient and want to please her/him.

I would be angry over the biting and punching, too.  Definitely go for a  meeting with a list of talking points.  PIF

Do not put up with it. Call the parents.

itll be ok hh

You have every right PN

Unfortunately I'm not sure everyone here understands the degree of delays that are within this group of children on the bus.  Please don't think I'm defending this little pooper scooper (if he touches my baby 1 more time I may come looking for him myself!!).  However, I've worked with kids who can't control themselves; the parents can't control them; school staff can't control them.  I'm sure the childs parents are already aware of the behavior.  What MAY happen for next school year....the school might request the parents drive their child.  Might not work because state law requires the district to provide transportation.  Transportation MAY also rework it to put the offending child on another bus.  Please Anne; document everything & send it out to those I've mentioned before.  Also let the school know that if you have to be there when they put Brianne on the bus to come home you will be there to make sure she is not sitting near the culprit (if the child is on the same bus next year).  I know it sounds stupid to be there but people will start to question why & you can explain it to them.  The more people who know (without you naming names) the more your odds of getting results.  This seems like a lot of work, but no one said being a parent was going to be easy.  Hugs for Brianne!!!  Nana  ;)

I got brianne off the bus about an hour ago, and  I am even more frustrated.  I asked her who she sat next to on the bus.  She told me the kid who bit her.  When i was on the phone with the the teacher, I told her I did not want her near this child.  I am not claiming my little brut is INNOCENT.   For what ever reason this child does not like her or maybe he does and he is trying to get her attention.  I have ask the school to please set up a conference for me and the other parents, but that is just going no where.  Well thrusday we have a picnic at her school I am hoping this childs parents will be there so we can talk.  I also asked the teacher to please make sure next year they are not in the same class or next to each other on the bus.   Thank goodness it is only one more day on the bus

Call Transportation again & "remind" them of the situation.  Maybe they will do some rerouting over the summer to put the biter on a different bus for next school year.  Be careful at the picnic......2 defensive parents in one place can be trouble!!

Thank goodness the school year is over.

I'm wondering if many of your comments came from people who didn't realize how young these kids are.

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i'd be so mad!  I hope it stops!  that's awful.  I think bullying is so wrong. I went through it..hated going to school because of it...PIF

You are more than right to be mad about this.  Hope you get it straightened out.

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