Torture Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld

I'll bring the water!

Put a band-aid on it, will ya???

Though I don't condone torture of any human beings, I do see your point.

I find it so funny when these things are called torture and the culture of these people is to keep them all in line with threats of beheadings, having their tongues cut out, stoning, hands cut off.  Yeah.  I need a bandaid too.  Humiliation is tortue huh?  wow.  We need to lock up a lot of the news media, parents, children, too many to count really.

I reject torture of anyone for any reason, no matter their crime.  If the guilty are to be tortured, let God do it.  At least God knows for sure whether the person to be tortured is actually guilty.

I volunteer to help out with the enhanced interrogation of these three. And Condasleeza too.

Good points, although I couldn't torture any human being. I think people who are in favor of this may change their minds if it was done to americans though.

It would not be right to torture these criminal any more than it was for them to torture people. We need to try and lock them up and then simply forget they ever existed.

Until Obama stops playing crony with Bush gang department heads we will not see any real justice.

Normal people do not pull wings off flies.

Oh my, listen to your bs.... You show compassion for terrorists and one of them boasted of beheading Daniel Pearl... Did you listen to that video of his screams ? I think those of you who feel that waterboarding is such a terrible thing  , take a stroll through time and see how our military was treated during past wars as well as current. I think you people are the sick ones.... I would much rather feel compassion for my own military and American people whose lives may of been spared because of getting this information...

Did you lose anyone to the attacks from these terrorists? No, you most likely didnt.... but what would you do if you had.? Different story then,,, huh?

I am sorry or not sorry I agree with vickey on this one.

In regards to foreign policy I will once again thank George W. Bush for keeping all of us safe and I would like to thank Dick Cheney for taking a stand against the liberal assault (they threw the first punch) and really showing a stark contrast between the BS that comes out of Obama's mouth vs. what really happened the last eight years.

And I just love these journalists who volunteer to be waterboarded so they can tell us it's torture. Well, I've got my power drill, pliers and blow torch ready to go if any one of them care to volunteer for my definition of torture. We can get to the bottom of this right away.

Lastly, if these rabid libs get their day in court, will Nancy Pelosi be sitting with the accused? This whole thing is pathetic, especially when you consider that only three people underwent the interrogation methods deemed legal.

Clearly, no liberal can make an argument against that.

Let's not forget Clinton's rendition.  Getting Eqypt to do our "bad deeds" doesn't actually mean he has clean hands.

The SS, Gestapo and right wingers all approve of torture.

Funny how in their hate ravaged minds they actually think Pelosi also tortured. No matter how much B S they spew it will never change the fact that the Bush administration did the actual torture. The blame Pelosi chorus only spotlights Bush's war crimes.

Really, if we let them get away with it, are we any better than Pelosi? Think about that!

Pelosi was the top Dem on the Intelligence committee when the briefings to Congress were conducted.  It was her responsibility to provide "checks and balances" to all intelligence actions.  She was also a member of the Appropriations committee and could have taken steps to halt funding for GITMO.  She did neither. 

And by the way, if you think Bush, Cheney, et al DID the torturing, you are naive.  Pelosi was informed and her failure to act IS condonment of the action... equal to Bush, Cheney, et al.  Let's not forget that Pelosi is #3... right behind Obama and Biden...

It scares me that she is unable/unwilling to stand up for what she did or what she believes in.  I don't agree with everything the Bush/Cheney administration did, but at least they have the spine to be HONEST about their position.

I thought you were against torture? 

Tammy, I am against torture! Period.

But when these people justify torture, when they say what they did was legal, then lets imagine using the same methods on them.

Tammy, Savo is against torture! Period.

But when Savo justifies torture, when Savo says what he wants is legal, then lets imagine......

Well, you get the idea........

Bla, bla, bla

Savo,  I don't need to "image" torture... I've seen it first-hand.  I was in the military serving in Middle East.  I've seen Americans captured and tortured.  Someday, maybe those pictures will be be released. 

Two wrongs don't make a right. The torture method should be banned.

To torture or not to torture? I enjoyed all the comments.

Let's just prosecute them. They deserve to go down in shame.

This is NOT my America. My America does not torture!

I just saw this article featured on Gather Politics... thanks editors!

Torture is ethically and morally wrong. Pragmactically, it does not even provide accurate, usefull information. It would be much better to spend out time and money on more sophisticated, mature and ethical methods of obtaining needed information. If the Bush administration broke our laws, those responsible should pay the legal consequences for their behavior the same as anyone else who breaks our laws. Equality is an American value tradition, no one is above the law regardless of their position or party affiliation.

I couldn't of said it better myself Greg

Bush and Co knew it was wrong so they changed the definitions of what torture was, invented new catagories of detainees, put them in special (and some secret ) prisons, kept the Red Cross from monitoring them and let others do the actual acts of torture. Those few 'bad apples' were just so much poisoned fruit of the Bush tree!

YUP...exactly and then they want to act like...WHO ME????  We are either the God fearing, do the right thing, freedom rings country we profess to be or we're not...looks like we're not

As a Bill Clinton supporter I never condoned his actions in the Lewinski affair. I know when my boy is wrong, the repubs on the other hand caught red handed (with blood) protect their boy to the bitter end.

They condone their torture with all sorts of propaganda and patriotism, reminds me of modern day Nazis in denial the Holocaust ever happened.

When one day, hopefully, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are charged for torture, war crimes, and crimes against humanity, it will be very hard to get all the valuable and important information to successfully prosecute them.

You don't have to "hope," ace, it WILL BE VERY HARD to get any information to prosecute those men because there is NO EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE STUPID CHARGES.

They can be waterboarded, confined in a box with insects, forced to stand naked for hours, or sexually abused and humiliated, to name only a few methods.

Sounds like an episode of "Fear Factor." *yawn* You call that stuff "torture?" What do you call what the terrorists do to the ones they capture. Was beheading Daniel Pearl "torture?" Once again you are selective in your outrage and have no credibility.

No "crimes" were committed, that's just a fantasy you like to tell yourself as a bed time story.

He holds an M.Phil degree in Conflict Transformation and Management from Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University in Port Elizabeth, South Africa

*ROFL* what a joke *ROFL*

People like you used to justify slavery and racism too... you probably still do...

people like you still stone adulterers and chop hands off of theives.... you probably drool with delight.

Torture in any form is wrong, and we are only partially responsible for our own country, not even really, what clout do we have? None, that's what.

In other countries, there is torture, and we also have no clout there, obviously. Much worse than we'd ever begin to think of.

Watch- nothing will come of this. Not one thing.

Marilyn

PS: thanks for the friend-invite, interesting thread here.

"The SS, Gestapo and right wingers all approve of torture."

No -- we're all against torture. It's the fact that you libs keep calling it "torture" as though we're all in agreement with that dumb premise. It was DEEMED LEGAL and it's called ENHANCED INTERROGATION METHODS. Please use that term going forward.

Again, if you to view what real torture looks like I will be happy to provide videos and pictures easily found on the web.

I have given up on this stupid website.

This article gets featured and is not creative, not informative, not thought-provoking, and is completely biased.

This is typical of all media. It is either all right or all wrong. And we wonder why this country is becoming more and more divisive.

And by right, I mean right-wing WRONG, and by wrong I mean illogical left WRONG

Hindsight so great, it is always 20/20 (we at least like to think that).

Before I judge I try to image what were the choices and what were the potential consequences.

In this case I wonder if there even was one. Did they have to choose between protecting the ones they cared about or simply standing up and making pronouncements about the evil acts of others?

We had just seen thousands die, they knew the perpetrators had no scruples, they had assaulted our nation, they were recruiting to do it again and again, and their practices were the most heinous acts on people that even if those people survived they would not be whole. I wonder how each of us felt at that point in time.

If the choice was to be ridiculed and condemned versus the best chance of protecting those you hold most dear, I wonder what I would have done. I can say, oh but it is an offense against all we hold true and I would then willing subject everyone to the proven acts of these people or would I use what was available to me and successfully protect those most dear.

It is all speculation since what I say here has no risks associated with it, it simply hypothetical. It was done and nothing I can or anyone else can do that will change it.

I simply hope that no future leaders will have to make those choices.

It is always fun to listen to people who are nice and snug make judgments without any consideration of the context the actions were taken in. It is now 8 years later we can sit at our computers, without wondering what will happen next to us or a loved one, condemning those that were responsible for our safety for the past 8 years. We can verbally attack the former President  without any comments about those people or acts that caused the President and the government to take the actions that are being condemned. It is great to live in America.