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by Ed Williams
Member since:
September 14, 2008

Gather Friends?

April 18, 2009 06:54 AM EDT (Updated: April 18, 2009 05:02 PM EDT)
views: 437 | rating: 8.6/10 (69 votes) | comments: 104

Didja ever sometimes wonder if you must be goin' around with a target painted on your back or something?

I feel that way fairly often these days. And I'm not really down about it, just curious or looking at it from a human nature standpoint more than anything.

Let me get right to the point. In the past few days I got zinged by another Gather "friend," the third zing in about a coupla months time, and I'm wondering just how that term is truly defined. A brief synopsis of the three examples in question will give credence to what I'm talking about:

1. This past Tuesday I posted up an article called Nude Butt Cheeks Doth Not A Writer Make. Right after I posted it I thought that it would be funny to put up a cartoon picture of a naked guy for my avatar, just to add spice to the article. It was kinda late and I was sleepy, so I did a Google search, found something, and put it up.

Bottom line, I was 100% wrong. I never looked at the pic, looked at who owned it or had the copyright, or whatever. I just put it up, which was dead, dead wrong.

Know how I found out that I'd messed up? A Gather friend turned me in. Gather, in turn, had to pull the picture down. And post up a notice that I'd messed up.

Know how I felt about it afterwards? Awful. Awful that I'd abused someone's copyright, awful that I'd been turned in, awful that I'd wasted Gather's time, and awful that a friend didn't feel that they could come to me and tell me I'd done something wrong.

Here's my question - is this a Gather friend?

2. About a month ago I wrote a spoof article that satirized some of the worst Gather articles - y'all know the deal, the ones where people are obviously just after points, the ones that you literally can't read due to spelling or word tense issues, stuff like that. It was meant to mock the worst and most horrible. As a result, I had a few Gather friends accuse me of writing personally about them, and one Gather friend even wrote these super long riffs about how I was simply angling for points, views, or whatever. Quite pointed stuff. Their first riff was okay, the second was troublesome, and by the third I was simply wondering why in the hell I was letting someone continually malign me within my own article. As a result, I deleted the third one. And wish I'd done the same with the first two.

Here's my question - is this a Gather friend?

3. One to two months ago I was alerted by someone (who was obviously out to start trouble) that a lady on here was telling people that I was lying regarding some things in the current article that I'd posted. The lady who supposedly was doing this was a Gather friend, and never said it directly nor straight to my face. Instead, one of her friends did that for her, and to her credit did it to my face within the article thread itself.

Here's my question - is this a Gather friend?

Folks, look. I know I've committed the sin of being popular, and for some that makes you an instant target. But this goes much deeper, what's swirling around in my mind is this simple question - is this how friends treat friends? Are we not supposed to help, nurture, and guide each other? At the very least, are we not to be civil to each other and give each other the benefit of the doubt in appropriate situations?

To me, it's pretty simple - if you like me and what I write, hang out. If not, leave, there are tons of good writers here on Gather that I'm sure you'll enjoy instead. Grace them with your presence. In the end, it's really simple what I want here on Gather. I want to have fun, hang out, experiment with an article concept or two, and enjoy....

Gather friends....my real ones...

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Comments: 104 ( 4 removed by Ed Williams )

Beth - Doing God's work Daily J. Apr 18, 2009, 7:03am EDT
I know that I have been spoofed and copied from a lot on here but I still don't mind sharing stuff with my friends
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Nancy * Apr 18, 2009, 7:19am EDT
Ooops I rated you a 10.. I was going for the 1 dangit (lol j/k)

No these people aren't really friends. And I agree, if a person doen't like what one writes they should just disconnect or whatever. I have connections here who write a whole bunch of different posts, so to avoid huring feelings or getting my feelings hurt, I try very hard not to open those posts (sometimes I do anyway) but hey... ya know!

And to the statement of you were simply angling for points/views whatever... Aren't we all!?
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 7:23am EDT
Nancy, I know, I guess I was supposed to say that golly, I post up my stuff for it to be totally ignored, so sorry it wasn't! Why would you put something up in a public forum that you don't want people to read?

Excellent post!

E3
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Mooch -. Apr 18, 2009, 7:25am EDT
Everyone makes mistakes, and I'm sorry someone felt that you had to be reported, there are people that I think solely go around looking for things to report, and to give people DB1's.

Ok, it happened, you learned, its no big deal.
mooch
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Rebecca [Future Teacher] Apr 18, 2009, 7:39am EDT
People shouldn't be so quick to judge, we all make mistakes, and more people need to understand that. I can understand the one you posted on tuesday being offensive because of the image, but it was a mistake as you said.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 7:43am EDT
Rebecca, thanks, I think you have a whole subculture of people on Gather who figure that the one way they can attract attention is to be controversial or malignant, and that's what they do. I did feel bad about not thinking re using the image, but the "pouncing" that came from it told me a lot about human nature.

You have a good Saturday,

E3
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Jennifer F. Apr 18, 2009, 8:00am EDT
I think if you notice that someone has done something wrong the right thing to do is to contact them first. then if it isn't taken care of you go higher up. That is just the right thing to do for anyone, friend or not. When your talking about a friend it isn't only the right the to do, it is the morally right thing to do.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 8:02am EDT
Jennifer, you're right. I think most people want to do the right thing, and if they slip a few confidential words of discussion will fix the problem. That's what friends do.

E3
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Nancy * Apr 18, 2009, 8:04am EDT
Jennifer I agree. And I might add that contacting them in a private message is probably the best way to go rather than being malicious or snide in a comment.
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phil w. Apr 18, 2009, 8:24am EDT
" It be's that way sometimes " ,and " most of the times ",when you are dealing with the foibles,frailties ,and flaws of ' friends '.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 8:28am EDT
Phil, I agree friends can have flaws and we should be tolerant of them, but there be some thing that friends just don't do!

On another subject, you do realize Georgia Tech is gonna be good next fall.....

E3
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Purrrrrrrrrrr~Genki dashite~Nantoka naru-yo! S. Apr 18, 2009, 8:31am EDT
Private messaging has a point. If someone gives enough of a flying feather to help you save face, they will gathermail you and go, "look bud, you're a cool duckie but this is what's up and ya might wanna fix it before some anonymous cowardly dimwith hits the report as this or that button and wastes a good deal of everyone's time. " woof and purr
=)
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 8:34am EDT
Selene, you be on the money as usual, not that anyone has ever treated you less than friendly here.......

Smoochies darlin',

E3
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Deb A. Apr 18, 2009, 8:34am EDT
Jennifer is right about catching mistakes. Should be a "chain of command" so far as being friends. For other things, hey.. it's a free country. If you don't like the way a post is going, click out of it!! If you just HAVE to comment, make it logical and constructive.
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Purrrrrrrrrrr~Genki dashite~Nantoka naru-yo! S. Apr 18, 2009, 8:42am EDT
not that anyone has ever treated you less than friendly here.......

Ed Williams , Apr 18, 2009, 8:34am EDT



hahahahaah, yeah right BIG OL LOL on that one, BUT I won't be a B**** today cuz I am groovin on 70 plus degrees to be had!
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 8:44am EDT
Darlin', I couldn't help but offer up the tease, bein' saintly just ain't suitin' me today!

Smoochies,

E3
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phil w. Apr 18, 2009, 8:44am EDT
GT was good last fall ! Yeah ,Johnson has the program headed in the right direction. i forget how fond you are of GT. How do you get along with your Uncle Robert?
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 8:45am EDT
Uncle Bob is fine, I think even he knows the balance of power is changing......

E3
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EM JAY (Gather Director of Chaos & Uprisings) W. Apr 18, 2009, 8:46am EDT
Ed, you are able to string more than 3 words together and express yourself. That alone makes you a target in the world, not just on Gather. I agree with many here who say, private message the person who messes up. I would do it whether an official "Friend" or not. If a nasty response is received as a result, then I'd call upon mighty lord Satan to rain fire down upon that person who offends the holy copyright. There is no need to call the cops.
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Johnice R. Apr 18, 2009, 9:00am EDT
I discovered this behavior in a post by a friend and great writer, we were commenting on his post when suddenly we were locked out and accused of 'Profanity & Other'. I pinged the author and after a few attempts to continue commenting I gave up. I went to my settings for “guarded viewing” and selected ‘adult content’ I then had access to the post.

Might I suggest that you change the options when posting, i.e., nudity, profanity, Crude or Indecent Language etc and those ‘friends’ will not even see you. I am certain that they have their “Guarded view” turned on being the only decent respectable Gather readers. Oh! Please do not get me wrong the readers choices are personal and my motto for this behavior --is what you cannot see will live only with its followers.

Just makes me want to spit how people can be so righteous and anonymous.

Then again Ed, your rants bring out some unknown issues to some of us who are innocent of the vermin. Sorry, I do not get this angry often.
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tammy b. Apr 18, 2009, 9:13am EDT
well Mr. Ed. Seems like you do what you complain about. I appreciate the great writers on Gather as well as those of us tha use this site for points, information, and just meeting people. Glad you got an article to post about it. Sorry that you feel that you are being picked on.
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sheila ~the hapless housewife~ j. Apr 18, 2009, 9:15am EDT
The "friends" should have alerted you privately to copyright mistakes, and the others need to stop being so paranoid. If you didn't name names, how could they be so sure you were writing about them? I wonder who will take offense to this post and jump on you next LOL?
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Stuart the Creative Doctor G. Apr 18, 2009, 9:16am EDT
Ok, Ed, I'm afraid I have to disagree with everyone's comments, not because they are wrong, per se, but because I can only draw attention to myself by being controversial and the "M" word.

Maybe part of the problem is the use of the term "friend" to describe someone who creates a profile page of truth and lies, tosses in a photo that often is "borrowed" from the web, and then sends/accepts a simple Friend Invitation to establish this ficticious relationship. Perhaps we should all categorize our "friends" into Groups such as True Friend, Quasi Friend, Pseudo Friend, Friend On Paper Only, and Oops Friend Mistake.

On a different topic, is Georgia Tech still accredited?
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 9:18am EDT
Stuart, that is so bad, and so early to boot!

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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 9:20am EDT
Sheila, just look around darlin', you'll see!

E3
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 9:21am EDT
Tammy, I've gone to no one's page and maligned them, nor have I ever reported a soul, but I am still sobbing over being picked on!

E3
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Sarah A. (I KANZ B UH RITUR!!!!) , YEZ!! Apr 18, 2009, 9:27am EDT
Ed, the target on *my* back is so riddled with bullet holes it looks like a lace doily. All from friends and even more, from family. Not Gather friends - I don't have enough and I don't do enough, but it reminds me of the old saying:

God protect me from my friends. My enemies I can take care of myself!
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Sarah A. (I KANZ B UH RITUR!!!!) , YEZ!! Apr 18, 2009, 9:29am EDT
And I do sort my 'friends' into 'friends, colleagues and WTF?...
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 9:32am EDT
LOLOL Sarah! I've just learned to toss 'em when they do something malignant! I do know I'm far from the only one who's dealt with crap like this, I guess it just gets to me sometimes so a good rant gets it off my chest.

You're the best,

E3
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Sarah A. (I KANZ B UH RITUR!!!!) , YEZ!! Apr 18, 2009, 9:34am EDT
PS Georgia has a technical school???
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Sarah A. (I KANZ B UH RITUR!!!!) , YEZ!! Apr 18, 2009, 9:35am EDT
(I can say stuff like that because I live in, you know, East Kentucky...)
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 9:36am EDT
Sarah, seeing as how I esteem you so much I'm going to forgive that technical school question......

E3
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Johnice R. Apr 18, 2009, 9:41am EDT
Stuart, yes!!! I have done just that. I have categories ---Cautious and writers to follow, there is also "oops!"

This categorizing process keeps me sane and focused on the writers I enjoy. The world is filled with folks wanting/needing friends I have always been discerning and cautious to call one a friend before I know how feel about things in common.

Ed, do not dismiss these suggestions, we no longer live in a world where loyalties are easy to come by.
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Jeanna S. Apr 18, 2009, 9:42am EDT
Ed, you keep on writing, I'll keep on reading! lol You made a mistake, freely admitted it, apologized, now it's done! As far as the "friend" thing, Stuart makes sense in the fact that it is just a "term". Honey, my friends...real friends, are the ones who had to pick me up when my ex left us for a man, loaned me $ when I was broke & needed diapers, would bail me out of jail if needed, walk in without knocking, open the fridge & grab a beer!!! These are friends...real friends! Don't get me wrong...I love some of my new gather friends, but remember that the word friend can have many different definitions! Shake it off, you are awesome in my book!!! (((?)))
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norene t. Apr 18, 2009, 9:59am EDT
Ya I was berated the other day by an "ignorant" lets call them that. They are self appointed gather police and I bet they have their scanner on and chase ambulances too!
Just ignore them and in time you will learn that you cannot please gather police all the time! If you did you wouldnt be true to yourself!
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penni d. Apr 18, 2009, 10:08am EDT
You posted naked icon, Ed???Oh,my! (Damn, wish I had seen it)
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Elizabeth O. Apr 18, 2009, 10:20am EDT
Ed darlin' - great post, I was waiting for this. You already know how I feel. I've got your back, my friend.

For the pious, self-righteous, and sanctimonious, it says in the Bible when you believe someone doing something wrong you first take it up with them, if they don't correct it, the elders speak to them, if its still not corrected then they are held up to the entire congregation. I'm guessing this person may not have heard this. Hmmmm.

Have a great day. Smoochies, Bethie
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Tracy Fabre Apr 18, 2009, 10:27am EDT
To answer your questions...
1) No.
2) No.
3) No.

Glad we got that cleared up!
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Priscilla (wishing I was in Costa Rica) ~. Apr 18, 2009, 10:27am EDT
It can be hard to find the good gather friends & to keep them too! I have a nice group that I enjo all of their content~
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ann c. Apr 18, 2009, 10:35am EDT
I do hope I'm included in your "good Gather friends" group!!!
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Sean B. Apr 18, 2009, 10:37am EDT
Ed, with friends like that who needs enemies so the saying goes. I hope I haven't infringed on any copyrights with that comment. I would be willing to bet good and bad money the owner of the rights really wouldn't give a flip about someone using it. It's not like your getting rich on that material.
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Lisa Frost Apr 18, 2009, 10:40am EDT
I find that some people have a really pitiful definition of friend. I hope things get better for you!
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Felicia R. Apr 18, 2009, 10:45am EDT
Sorry to hear about your issue.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 11:01am EDT
Thanks all, Sean, to your point, what's funny is that it's not like I was representing that the picture was mine or anything. That being said, it was still wrong to use it. I don't deny my culpability in this at all, I just felt the way it was handled was awful, and then it caused my mind to trigger on some other situations I've experienced here, thus the rant. In the end, though, we all endure this type stuff, and I appreciate all the neat comments.

And Ann - you know you're in that Elvis level pantheon of Gather friends!

E3
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Sean B. Apr 18, 2009, 11:36am EDT
I understand what you mean. It was a below the belt the way it was handled.
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Robyn F. Apr 18, 2009, 12:15pm EDT
"is this a Gather friend?"....no.sometimes they 'pretend' to be 'helping', when in fact , they are just idiots!
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Leo Lemmer Apr 18, 2009, 1:03pm EDT
The biggest hurts come from family and friends.
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Christine K. Apr 18, 2009, 1:53pm EDT
I'm sorry that you got turned into Gather. It takes a coward to do that. Just remember that there are plenty of us who love ya!
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Mari H. Apr 18, 2009, 2:25pm EDT
Well said, Ed (rhymes :-)! And, you're right-it's your popularity that gets you in trouble!
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Clover Bee Apr 18, 2009, 2:59pm EDT
I've had this kind of thing happen to me for different reasons. I have had a blog for about 10 years and for about 4 of those 10, it was public, not it is private. Being that I'm pretty open minded and quite extroverted and therefore it was only a matter a time before my quiet drama-free-zone-of happiness-and-playfulness blew up and I offended the sensibilites of very many "friends". So I asked the same question. "I thought these were my FRIENDS? HOW COULD THEY SAY THIS?"

And a wise person said the same thing to me as Stuart said above (well, not exactly - but the gist was the same). A friend on gather, is the same as friend on a blog - any social networking space. Unless you know them personally, and that doesn't mean a real in-person or even a conversation with them, it just means a real connection with them in a some meaningful manner. Kind of like pornography. You can't really define it, but you know it when you see it. Same thing with this friend thing. You probably know the people here that you have that connection with and the ones that just pass in and out without really connecting in that meaningful way. So this person said to me "A friend on here just means, I subscribe to read what you write and see what you choose to show me, and you subscribe to read what I write and view what I choose to show you. That just means that I find what you interesting enough that I will devote that much of my day to you. That is what it means - no more, no less. We are choosing through words and pictures to tell each other things - so over time, we may draw closer, but 'friend' is not a word that describes our relationship. Mutual subscriber may seem harsh, but until our exchange is a bit more profound, that is what we are."

It did put a lot in perspective for me. So the answer I was say to you is "no", "no", and "no".

Because.

A friend, even remotely would have said what Nancy did above and many others did "Hey Ed, you might want to check out that pic and make sure about the copy right, k?". MY journal now, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the people there would do that for me.

The second and third just seem like drama hounds. And unfortunately, being popular and public will bring you that. You will just have to know that no, they aren't your friend and they get off on feeding off your popularity and the more popular you get, the more of them you will attract. The more you respond, the more they will. Best to delete, ignore and move on. Some people just don't have anything more to do in life. It's sad and really kind of pitiful. Just unfriend, delete the comment, keep on laughing, keep on writing for those of us who get it and don't pay it any more mind.

And don't think for one minute that they were friends. They were just waiting for an opportunity. It's like that saying goes, you will know who your real friends are the day you get promoted or fired. In this case, promoted=popular.

go dawgs! hahaha
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Paula T. Apr 18, 2009, 3:56pm EDT
Ah, there's nothing we can do about the vagaries of others. Just say the little Irish Prayer:
May those who love us love us,
and those who do not love us,
may God turn their hearts,
and if He cannot turn their hearts
may He turn their ankles
that we may know them by their limping.
~Irish Prayer
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 4:45pm EDT
Clover, I love ya to death except for your very last line, and Paula, good advice! Thanks all!

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EM JAY (Gather Director of Chaos & Uprisings) W. Apr 18, 2009, 4:48pm EDT
I saw that picture before it was removed, Ed. It was not naked enough for me. My sense of obscenity was offended.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 4:54pm EDT
EM JAY, I'm sorry, I guess I need to get some buck ass, grotesque nude shots of meself done and get 'em up here soon. Sorry for the offense.

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Clover Bee Apr 18, 2009, 4:56pm EDT
I meant the chili dawgs Ed (evil grin)

oh, and don't feel bad, I just had a "friend" report one of my heartfelt articles about how I build my very own bath & body company from the ground up as "spam". So it's ok. Karma - it'll be back around for them. bitches.
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Amanda "middle of nowhere" C. Apr 18, 2009, 5:00pm EDT
I'll be your friend, Ed.
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Vivian P. Apr 18, 2009, 5:09pm EDT
I YOUR FRIEND !
all I can say is welcome to Gather , I get so tired of all the stupid nit-picken around these here parts, Ugh !
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Vivian P. Apr 18, 2009, 5:11pm EDT
Oh nude shots of Ed
how interesting
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Elizabeth O. Apr 18, 2009, 5:37pm EDT
I wish I'd seen the picture that has been the bane of all this hoopla. Funny thing, the person who reported you, if they wanted attention and fame, it blew up in their face. They have remained nameless and all of your real friends think that person is a #%^**(&&^ (fill in your own word).

Ed, I've told you over and over that we need a nude calendar of the Men of Gather, and you can pose every month. My birthday is in December, so do something extra special in that pose, OK?

Bethie
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Janell R. Apr 18, 2009, 5:40pm EDT
Judging by what I've seen go on between "friends" on Gather sometimes, I'm not completely surprised. It's a shame the person couldn't have just sent you a Gather message.
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Vivian P. Apr 18, 2009, 6:32pm EDT
Alright I with Elizabeth O on the calendar thing !! My birthday was last week I is an April baby
Oh alright I'm a slightly sprung spring chicken but what the heck ...............
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Linda T. Apr 18, 2009, 6:34pm EDT
On Gather I have friends and I have connections. I would expect those who appreciate me to shoot me an email telling me of any faux paus I might make. On the other hand if one of my connections wants to rat me out then it explains to me that I was on target in not allowing them the opportunity to become my "friend".
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Gessy D. Apr 18, 2009, 7:17pm EDT
So many comments. I just don't have anything to say in the matter except that everyone makes mistakes and should be forgiven.
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Nichole S. Apr 18, 2009, 7:29pm EDT
I'm so sorry someone would do that. They are just jealous you are more liked than they.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 7:43pm EDT
Gessy, I do forgive 'em, but sometimes I think people need to be reminded that free speech does work two ways. Linda, you and Nichole are very sweet, and Bethie - think if I do the pose that I should use a copy of the copyright laws to block off any potential offensive bodily areas?

Thanks much for all the cool comments!

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Elizabeth O. Apr 18, 2009, 7:47pm EDT
Somehow set it up that COPYRIGHT covers everything to all but your closest friends. US!!!!!
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Raven Wytch Apr 18, 2009, 10:25pm EDT
I find it rude that they didn't bother to contact you. I mean if they didn't ask you about it before running off to report you, how would they know if you had permission to use the picture? My husband has a couple of websites. He has permission from Bernie Wrightson, the estate of HR Giger, and the SciFi Channel to use images. He doesn't have the e-mails where he was given permission posted on the sites.
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Dorothy H. Apr 18, 2009, 10:27pm EDT
I've noticed the hall monitors roaming the Gather Halls quite a bit, lately.
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Ed Williams Apr 18, 2009, 10:33pm EDT
Raven, these people aren't truly interested in protecting copyrights, they're interested in being holier than thou and garnering attention that they can't get any other way. I find it amusing that more than one of them has probably never copyrighted anything in their lives.

Plus, I have friends who are professional artists and one who's a professional cartoonist. I've halfway thought about asking them for some of their stuff, then put it up, and see what happens.....

You're the best,

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Elizabeth (This place IS my Soap Opera) O. Apr 18, 2009, 10:43pm EDT
No, no, and depending on which one you're talking about, yes and no. Yes, the one who came to you and told you is a "friend". The one who went and stabbed you in the back, so to speak, not so much,
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Raven Wytch Apr 18, 2009, 10:56pm EDT
Ed, you should do that and knock them off the pedestals they have placed themselves on. And remember, that which does not kill me has made a serious tactical error. *grin*
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necee t. Apr 19, 2009, 12:21am EDT
hi Ed... i would never turn you in....you are toooo funny.... love and hugs...friend...
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 8:32am EDT
Necee, you're the sweetest, and Raven, I look at it this way - freedom of speech is a beautiful thing, but people also have the freedom to respond as well.

Smoochies to all,

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Danielle P. Apr 19, 2009, 9:17am EDT
Sound like a bunch of drama to me. I like your stuff!! We all make mistakes. I look at it as if I screwed up how would I want others to treat me? I wouldn't like "talk" behind my back but rather a straight forward suggestion. I feel as you do.
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Sean B. Apr 19, 2009, 12:20pm EDT
I feel a fart coming on Debra.
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 1:21pm EDT
Debra, what about moving on elsewhere do you not understand? We're disconnected for a reason, you should heed it. And Lori, take it elsewhere as well.

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Sassy ... the calm and cool Cat Apr 19, 2009, 1:47pm EDT
Oh, I'd like to read the four comments that were deleted. Posts and comments like found on this page are why I leave many people hanging on my friend request list and disconnect from others that I have mistakenly connected to. If you didn't take the photo/write the post, then don't publish it.
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 1:52pm EDT
No problem with that, Sassy Cat, but also give the person a reasonable chance to correct it if they do mess up. If they don't, report them.

Re the deleted posts, I don't mind at all people disagreeing, but when they attack or exceed the boundaries of reasonableness (in my opinion), they go.

Take care, good post!

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Nichole S. Apr 19, 2009, 2:00pm EDT
oh I want to be a fly on your comments of this post to see the deleted ones;)
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Clover Bee Apr 19, 2009, 2:08pm EDT
Glad to see you deleting them Ed. And yea, I'm in on the votes for the nude calendar btw. I want mine autographed with something really good in it too.
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 2:09pm EDT
Nicole, you are so bad. And Clover, you're even badder, which is a good thing!

Smoochies to you both,

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Sassy ... the calm and cool Cat Apr 19, 2009, 2:19pm EDT
I have just read the four deleted comments. They were not "attacks" and did not "exceed the boundaries of reasonableness" ....in my opinion.

This post is just another example of stupid drama by someone who feels they were wrongly injured and needs all their 'friends' to rally round and tell them that the attackers were 'mean'.

Well, you are nearing 300 views so your plot is working.
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 3:00pm EDT
And Sassy, the fact that you're paying so much attention to this makes a statement as well. Fortunately, now that you're onto my game of getting views anyway I can you won't need to contribute anymore towards them.

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Renda B~surviving the storm by dancing in the rain. Apr 19, 2009, 7:57pm EDT
Some days you just have to sigh and smile ;) I left you a 10 and a page view, not to mention this "non-spamming" comment.
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 8:00pm EDT
Renda, you're a class act sweetie. And you're exactly right, you know.

Double smoochies, and thanks,

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Kay Bevis Apr 19, 2009, 8:21pm EDT
Ed, I give you a 10++++!
As the old saying goes "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" :)

A REAL FRIEND WOULD EMAIL YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAD MESSED UP Sorry about your ordeal!
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Karen F. Apr 19, 2009, 9:25pm EDT
Sorry about the crap with all of this. I have read all of the articles and wasn't bothered at all by them. I agree with so many others. A real friend would have sent you a personal email and not reemed your butt right here or turned you in. If I don't like something that someone else writes I just close out and don't leave a comment. I have been trashed a couple of times too and I take it personally when this happens. I am not the best writer in the world, I write about my life and try not to offend anyone. I don't always write in the best language that I call Southern English but I do the best that I can...but I am very picky about how things are worded.

People need to realize that what you are writing is humor and very well written...not to offend. If they have a problem, take it to that person and not be a tattle tail...that is so very childish.
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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 9:26pm EDT
Karen, you're a sweetie, and I appreciate your support. It always makes me feel quite good inside to see comments from you.

Double smoochies,

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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 9:27pm EDT
Kay, it's quite okay, I'm holding up quite nicely, and am quite flattered/glad to see you here - you rock, darlin'!

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Ed Williams Apr 19, 2009, 9:54pm EDT
C.F., you're a sweetie, thank you!

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Darren ("Site Psychologist ") Lynn Apr 20, 2009, 4:21am EDT
seem their has been some selective targeting, Google pasting is every were on the net, not that its right but that it is true.

But then again i believe in past.
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Kimberli T. Apr 20, 2009, 2:50pm EDT
THIS ARTICLE OFFENDS ME!!! Haha, just teasing, really I am. But, sure, we are all here for points in the end right? Otherwise we could just go to myspace. Haha. Oh and I must also mention that I was at another social network site that also compensates for spending time there and I was blogging about my daily life (it's so and online diary type deal for me) and someone commented that I lacked substance and needed to put more informitive information on my blog. Ack, I do believe that you are right when you say that some people think the only way to be popular is to be ignorant. Sadly this is an issue that is going around on the community 'mylot' too. Some people are playing cop and getting people in trouble for tiny infractions that the person has a right to make because they are NEW! Haha. But, okay, I'll quit ranting, because I know it's annoying and I'm wasting valuable point making time right now! Haha.
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Ed Williams Apr 20, 2009, 7:32pm EDT
Kimberli, know what? You couldn't be more right. I get a kick out of the people who say, "You only write this stuff to get views and comments." Why do we write anything - I think the answer is for people to read it. So yep, I write it for views and comments and to experiment with article concepts. I'm not here to "pay it forward," but I do try to answer all pings and most comments. And that's why I'm here, period.

Does this mean we're "View and Point" whores? Or does it mean that we're just honest about it?

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Ina ♥ Tagline Free Since September '09 ♥ Apr 20, 2009, 10:24pm EDT
It appears that we have some of the same "fans"...
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