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by ~Sia McKye~
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August 8, 2007

FINDING THE PLOT, CONFLICTS, AND PACE OF YOUR STORY--Wombats CCLXXII

April 09, 2009 05:07 PM EDT
views: 466 | rating: 10/10 (9 votes) | comments: 310

 

In the course of researching various things I came across something on getting the feel of the flow of a story, finding the bones of a story and by doing so, find out how a popular book on the market is presented and outlined. It was very similar to an exercise I had to do in a college writing course, years ago on the anatomy of a best seller. A simple plotting exercise, if you will.

The suggestion was to pick a current book, about a month or two old in the genre you want to write. Keep in mind even the current books were bought close to two years ago. It was suggested using a book of debuting or newer author since established authors have a lot more leeway with stories than an aspiring author.

Next take a notebook or use a computer spreadsheet—whatever is easiest—and go through the book and mark down the number of chapters. Under each chapter number, count the number of scenes per chapter and mark them on your spreadsheet or notebook. Chapter 2, scene 1, scene 2, scene 3, etc, and once you’ve done that, then treat each scene as a short story and write a one sentence blurb for each scene. As you do this for each chapter, you should be able to see the pattern of conflict and the plot. You can also include a sentence describing the internal/external conflict. If there are subplots these can also be included as a sentence within that chapter. Black moment can also be done that way. You’ll quickly see that the black moment does not happen with in the first 4 or 5 chapters. Once you’ve completed this exercise then write a 15-25-word blurb that describes the story.

 

What this exercise does is show the bones of the story. It identifies what storylines are working for your target audience and how they’re presented. You can take your own WIP and see if your story’s turning points roughly match up with the outline you have created. It won’t match exactly but it helps you have a visual clue if your MS visually fits your target audience. It also visually helps you to see whether your story is too long or too short, or too simple or complicated. Do you have enough conflict and is the internal/external conflict clear. Where is your black moment?

 

Even if you are a pantzer, as I am, this exercise helps find the plot, conflicts, flow and pace of a story that fits your target audience and how your story matches up—or doesn’t. It gives you an analytic tool to go back and look at your WIP with critical eyes with the view of making yours better. It also helps in creating a synopsis of your WIP and find the pitch point. Which, as I recently found out is an important part of the process.

 

One of the things this exercise does is give you and outline, which in turn, theoretically help with a synopsis. I’ve not tried it for that purpose as yet, but I can see where it would help a writer keep the focus.

 


 

Have any of you ever done this? If so, what were the results?

 

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Judi F. Apr 9, 2009, 5:53pm EDT
first?
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Judi F. Apr 9, 2009, 5:54pm EDT
woot!
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Lisa "Queen Wombat" F. Apr 9, 2009, 6:00pm EDT
I get to be second, then, even if I'm third!
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Jamie C. Apr 9, 2009, 6:08pm EDT
Not first!

This sounds like a good way to write a synopsis, Sia. And no, I've never tried it before.

And I DO have OneNote on my home computer. Hoozah! I'm already playing around with it.
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Jamie C. Apr 9, 2009, 6:10pm EDT
I mean I've never tried it with someone else's novel. I do it with my novels all the time, except I use more than one sentence to describe each scene. This might be a good way to make my synopses more succinct - which is always a problem for me.
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ML S. Apr 9, 2009, 6:17pm EDT
Dale, figured this would interest you. It's a short posting about the poor power factors of CFLs on the market. Unfortunately the testing lab referenced in the article doesn't have their results available for perusal.

Utilities suffer from CFLs’ poor power factor
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Gisela S. Apr 9, 2009, 6:53pm EDT
I've never done this, but it would certainly be interesting to give it a go! I have a question though...what's a "pantzer" ? I doubt you're a WWII tank ;)
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Wendy C. Apr 9, 2009, 6:53pm EDT
Seventh? Cool beans. grin

I've got the next thread ready... or it can sit in waiting for an emergency should someone get a wild hair and want to jump in.

Off to read Sia's article.
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Wendy C. Apr 9, 2009, 6:54pm EDT
Blech, 8th.
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Wendy C. Apr 9, 2009, 7:01pm EDT
I have not done this as such. I've picked up books I've read before (after fully enjoying them) and studied how they are paced, put together, twisted and otherwise developed. It really does help in pacing and unfolding my own stories.

Anymore the ultimate thrill is to pick up a great story.. so great my edit witch has to be quiet, and falling head first into it. Life don't get much better. lopsided grin

My day? Stupid should hurt. Perhaps then so many people wouldn't settle for it, rather than competent. Rant off. Off to figure out dinner.
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Wendy C. Apr 9, 2009, 7:01pm EDT
mini-Dana?

I could settle for that.
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Wendy C. Apr 9, 2009, 7:02pm EDT
W00T! I'm the first to do a Dana.. happy dancing ensues.. I'm in a weird mood, why do you ask?
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 7:05pm EDT
Wendy, you do a lovely Dana, a parade of flowers.
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Gina Robinson Apr 9, 2009, 7:14pm EDT
Just popping by to say hi. I just got back from a week away and am playing catch-up.

Sia--I've never tried breaking down a book like this. I don't think I have the patience. I have a friend who did a similar thing--she highlighted dialogue in one color, narrative in another, etc.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 7:16pm EDT
Gisela, lol! It means one who doesn't plot out everything from outlines and such. Pantzers write from the seat of your pants. You know the beginning, general outline of the story, the end and you write. And your story evolves as you go. I'm sure there is a better definition of it out there
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Pat Bertram Apr 9, 2009, 7:22pm EDT
I've heard of this method of finding the bones of a novel, but I never did it. Feels too much like homework.
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Pat Bertram Apr 9, 2009, 7:25pm EDT
This is Thursday, so it must be . . . No, not the day before TGIF. It's No Whine, Just Champagne night!

The Most Unexpected Truth About Writing
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 7:29pm EDT
Veeeery interesting post, Sia! I've never done this, but it's much food for thought.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 7:55pm EDT
I don't think my mind works orderly enough to try something like that, Sia.

*dancing* Happy weekend! Oh, just me? Sorry. I'm still gonna dance, though. *Shake, shake, shake. Shake, shake, shake. Shake your booty. Shake your booty* LOL Gosh, sometimes you don't realize how really stupid some lyrics are until you type them.

Since I'm dancing and singing anyway, "Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Dear Pat. Happy birthday to you." Now blow out the candles, and wish for a virus-free PC.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 8:05pm EDT

Glitterfy.com - Glitter Graphics
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 8:56pm EDT
Jil, my dear, it's the weekend for me as well, and what better way to kick it off than with a dance, a song,and glittery candles and cake! Thank you! It's not until Saturday, but I'm learning to have a birthday week like Judi. Or at least a long birthday weekend!

And YAY, I have my laptop back! It's still missing a finger or toe here and there, and is looking somewhat sticky, broken and confused, it's eyebrows are a bit singed, and I'm at a loss to explain that lipstick stain, but at least it's lost that crazed gleam in its eye! I've slathered it up in every spyware program known to man and we're all wearing surgical masks for a few days, but at least it's back. Paint missing from half the keys,and worn off the wrist rest area, and the slightly murky screen and all. I just wanna hug the poor little thing!

Yes, IT people tend to feel that way about computers. What? You never named one of yours?
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 8:58pm EDT
So much to catch up on!

Mike, I'm so sorry to hear about the funerals. Those are never easy. Is it rude of me to ask? And I read about the job hunt as well. Sounds as if you are thinking of getting out on your own somewhere. I do hope that doesn't mean anything happened to your mom. I'm sending lots of hugs and well wishes in your direction.
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 9:03pm EDT
Sia, what a day of ups and downs for you! Poor Jake! And poor teacher, if you ever get your hands on her! I think everyone in their life has a teacher like this (mine was in the third grade. She and Mother did outright battle the whole year!) I'm hoping his school year is almost over, and yes, there are lessons for him to learn here. Some people just will not be reasoned with, and karma, being the bitch she is, will eventually catch up. I'm living proof of that. Teach Jake to live by the "Survivor" motto: Outwit, Outplay, Outlast. Hope things get better soon.

And on the upside, how very, very cool to get a note from Nathan Bransford! WOW! If I'm ever pubbed, I am SO going to beg to be on your blog!
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 9:05pm EDT
Wendy, I loved hearing about your flowers! I have a few daffodils and a few tulips, and because they aren't blooming fast enough in the yard, I came home to an early birthday present of a bouquet of bright yellow tulips in my kitchen. It is spring, and time to be happy, in spite of everything.
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 9:11pm EDT
To the fans of OneNote (James and Judi and Jamie), I'll have to look into it, but if it requires either Vista or Word 2007, it's not happening. I can imbed any doc in any other doc already (for instance, I can embed my notes excel spreadsheet into my deleted lines word doc, along with any picture references in either one, along with links and emails and anything else I want, and put them all in one folder. It may be archaic, but it works fine for me. MS used to have something called Notebook, which sounds like it was expanded into One Note. The hand written note thing would be cool, but I never use hand-written stuff at home, and at work, I have my own weird method for finding stuff in my notes (I'm a doodler; it helps). If I ever upgrade, though, I'll check it out.
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 9:14pm EDT
I'm off to see if I can find the remainder of the missing stuff from the lap top. I leave you with this, sent by my sis; it cheered me up beyond all words. A flash mob!

Something cheerful

I'll come back and answer the questions later!
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ML S. Apr 9, 2009, 9:18pm EDT
The job hunting is being driven by the prospect that there will most likely be layoffs in multiple departments in the near future. So far the two I've applied for are the only ones in my degree area. I could easily find something in vector control but it would be states away in distance rather than a 2 hour drive away though the job package on that one would have to be too good to turn down.

Mom is the same I guess though there has been some small continual cognitive degradation. The hardest part about it is that she now has a realization of how much it has progressed. Bigger concern for me lately has been dad's spinal problem showing advancement. Every so often he has to bend way over to stretch it out because his legs have gone somewhat numb. So far it works but there's that nagging voice that continually goes what if, when if.

At least I was able to put my medically induced cash crunch behind me. Don't care for the personal cost but you do what you have to do.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 9:23pm EDT
Yay, I get my computer back! Ahem, 14 year olds have people, you see.

Gina, that's way too complicated, lolol! But I do like how this exercise can show up some problems in a MS. We had to do something like this in a course i took.
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James R. Apr 9, 2009, 9:26pm EDT
Hi, OneNote fans. An inexpensive way to get it is to buy Office 2007 for Home and Students, which was on sale at Staples yesterday for $100. It says it for non-commercial use, which at the moment does line up with my uses. This compares to $70 for OneNote itself. I installed Office 2007 on my system last night and started to play around with it year. I've been using it a lot in the past couple of days at work. You can twist Word to do a lot of this, but OneNote is much more lightweight and intuitive. End of pitch.

Pat, happy birthday. Turn it into birthday long weekend -- why not?

Sia, on the topic, sounds very methodical. Even though I do outlines, this sounds like a more analytical approach than I'm accustomed to taking. But I can see that it would reveal the bones and story arc. BTW, very cool about getting a note from Nathan. I'm very impressed by his blog and he seems to have a great attitude.
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 9:29pm EDT
Of course, that "something cheerful" came before I opened my email and found a rejection from an editor. Oh well. On to whatever comes next.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 9:29pm EDT
Um, Pat, no, I can't say I name my computers, perse, I did call my first one Old Betsy eventually, because, well she was old and slow...
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 9:31pm EDT
Oh no!, well that sucks the big wah heenie! *shrill whistle, Heeeeey Rocco!
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 9:50pm EDT
Pat, we have to celebrate your birthday for several days because Sherrie held out on us about hers. Yes, all the hoopla is Sherrie's fault, I tell you. :-) Belated hoopla's just not the same.

(hold the hoopla for a second) *sigh* sorry about the letter, Pat. Was it on a query, or one of your full requests?

Okay, proceed with hoopla :-)
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 9:56pm EDT
Ever have those moments when you have to write something and you just don't have the oomph? Or desire? yah. There's gotta be an article in my file I haven't used. I don't wanna type...sigh
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 9:59pm EDT
As Maxine says: "My mind works like lightning, One brilliant Flash and it is gone." I've had my brilliant flash today. Yah, I'm still looking...
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Jamie C. Apr 9, 2009, 10:06pm EDT
That video was cheerful, Pat. Brought a smile to my face. But the rejection is not cheerful at all. I'm sorry. What a bummer! ((((hugs))))

Sorry life keeps heaping crap on you, Mike. Hang in there.

I think OneNote is a newer version of Notebook. I like the tabs along the sides and top. It's fairly intuiative to use. (unlike Word 2007. who designed that piece of tripe?)
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 10:14pm EDT
Jill, it was on the request for the full. She called it competent but couldn't hook it for the market. It's a good thing it's a writing weekend for me (unless I get distracted by something else!) Maybe there's a market somewhere for a reformed pirate. Then again, it's not exactly a romance. Oh well. An agent still has it, and it's entered in that Book in a Nutshell contest at the Knight agency. It's apparently the rejection season for me. Good thing there's a cake in my future.

Mike, echoing Jamie on the hang in there thing.

Sia, laughing at you. Well, hopefully, with you. I love Maxine.
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 10:19pm EDT
Geeze, Pat, when it rains it pours, and you must feel like you're drowning. Rejections suck. I know it's all part of the process, but each and every one stings. There's no way around it. Whoever the rejector was, they're missing out though, no doubt about it. You'll have the last laugh. I know it.

(That flash mob video was awesome, BTW.)
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Jamie C. Apr 9, 2009, 10:20pm EDT
I think I'm catching a cold. General malaise all day and now my nose is running like a sieve. I thought maybe it was allergies, but I checked the pollen forecast and pollen is low right now. This is where I start whining for 'hicken soup.

mmmmm.... cake...
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 10:20pm EDT
Pat. just because SHE couldn't hook it for the market doesn't mean someone else can't. Keep that in mind.
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 10:21pm EDT
Office 2007 has made me very crabby over the last month. The "upgrade" was forced on me at work. It's like someone came in and rearranged my kitchen, and still expects me to produce gourmet meals.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 10:26pm EDT
I love Maxine too, Pat. I fell in love with the first Maxine cartoon I saw and still feel the same after all these years. My mom shakes her head at my love of pithy, says Maxine is a piss and vinegar attitude on Tequila. Gee, Mom, and the problem with this is ....?

That nasty demanding "market". Hmmph.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 10:30pm EDT
Oh don't say that, Sherrie. I need to upgrade, darn it. I'm still back in 03 or something.

Good point Jill.

Yay, I found an article I can use tomorrow. It was one of my half finished articles. Not as much work as doing it from scratch with burnt out gray matter for a brain tonight.

Jamie, can I say ewww. I'm just dragging butt, not sick, just tired and sorta blah.
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 10:30pm EDT
Yeah, what Jill said.
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Beth H. Apr 9, 2009, 10:30pm EDT
Sia, what you outlined in the article sounds like a great exercise and one I'd recommend and one I might never try myself! Lots of work.

Pat!!! I'm so sorry. On to the next one.

Mike, sorry to hear about the deaths. Each one affects us. To endure several at the same time is draining and akin to several blows. Sending peace to you.
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 10:32pm EDT
I loved Office 2003, and actually wouldn't have upgraded if they didn't make me. (Don't I sound like a codger or what?) Office 2007 is a BIG switch. It'll take some getting used to. But there are some things I like. Maybe in a while, I'l be glad for the upgrade.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 10:34pm EDT
One of the nicest rejections I ever got was from the Editor (or was she president?) of Soho Press. I was really green then about the proper way to submit manuscripts and sent all of Part I of my novel to her. She hand-wrote me a letter saying "very original, and some really strong writing. But not the type of books we publish. You need a paperback trade publisher." Yeah, from her pencil to the publishing gods.
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Jamie C. Apr 9, 2009, 10:42pm EDT
I've been using Word 2007 for over a year and I still HATE it. I don't think I'll ever get used to it. The default format is just stupid. Who decided "Calibri" should become the new default font? And auto "space after paragraph" and "same as last paragraph" which removes your effin' tabs? What reject designed this? Seriously. The happiest day of my Word 2007 experience was when I discovered "Remove ALL formatting". Then I had to go back in and format the whole freaking manuscript from scratch, but at least it wasn't picking stupid fonts and double spacing between paragraphs, and removing my tab indents. HATE Word 2007.

end rant. for now.

I have a headache now and my eyes are burning. Maybe it is allergies.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 10:43pm EDT
If I'm ever fortunate enough to be published I plan to send "thank you" letters to those in the industry who rejected me, but also encouraged me. And, yes, I do remember them. Not hard since there were only a handful. LOL Nevertheless...
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 9, 2009, 10:57pm EDT
baseball size hail and strong winds? wtf? It's right over where my family lives and there is a tornado warning in effect. But it looks like it will be breaking up a bit before it travels 50 miles to our area. So we may only get the winds. I took the dogs outside to do their stuff and you can hear the thunder faintly, but this storm is traveling 45mph. Oh Yay...
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James R. Apr 9, 2009, 11:05pm EDT
Sia, hope the storm breaks up and let's you get a peaceful night.

Pat, the rejections do sting, but you've got irons in the fire, so as others have said, on to the next one.

Sherrie, it took me a couple of months to get accustomed to Office 2007, but I've figured out how to do everything I used to with the new GUI. So far, OneNote has been the biggest plus I've seen. Word is over-featured and I've been using Word 2003 at home. I'll have to see how it feels to use it for writing here.

Jamie, sending you hicken soup over the ether. Lots of Vitamin C and other liquids also might help.
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 11:06pm EDT
You're a class-act, Jill. Truly.
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Sherrie Super Apr 9, 2009, 11:06pm EDT
I loved your Word 2007 rant, Jamie! And don't get me started on Excel.
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Lisa K. Apr 9, 2009, 11:07pm EDT
Word 2007 -- I've been using it for awhile now and it still perplexes me. There's nothing at all intuitive about it. Most upgrades, though the program changes, it still makes some sort of sense. This is like using an entirely new program, and NOT in a good way. I seriously don't get the logic behind the way it's set up now, and it seems like there's more clicks involved doing the basics. It doesn't help that I work from a remote desktop for one of my jobs and that still has an older version of word, so I'm constantly forcing mind to make the switch back and forth. Ack.
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Lisa K. Apr 9, 2009, 11:08pm EDT
Excel...ack. I won't say another word.
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Lisa K. Apr 9, 2009, 11:09pm EDT
Sia, that exercise intrigues me. I never plot out or outline what I'm going to write, but I think this would be very helpful just to see on paper the structure of a successful (or potentially successful) novel. I'd be interested in seeing the variations between different genres, too. I'm definitely going to try this when I have some time...which might be...well...
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Pat S. Apr 9, 2009, 11:09pm EDT
Send the storm here, Sia. I love them and could use a giant crash-bang of a storm about now. I'd feel a lot better.

Jamie, I've heard that about Word 2007. Those in the office forced to switch have been in tears (I hear Excel 2007 is even worse). They'll make me upgrade someday, but thankfully not yet (the way my life is going, I expect they'll do that next week!) Honestly, I really thought this year couldn't suck any worse than last year. I'm well on the way to being proven wrong. And yes, Sherrie, I'm drowning. Thank goodness for my wombat "life preservers"!

And Jill, the first thing I did tonight was send a thank you to the editor for at least making the request.

Off to see if there's anything I can touch without it turning to crap in my hands. Later my dears.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:16pm EDT
Word 2007 is not a good program for writers to use because of that annoying fomatting thing. We want our indents like we want our indents for a reason, darnit! We want to think for oursevles, tyvm, and Word tries to take over and think for us. Quit it!

Aw, shucks. Thanks, Sherrie.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:17pm EDT
One word, Pat: Paris.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:30pm EDT
Speaking of Nathan Bransford, he's having a "be an agent for a day" contest. One of the Wombats *coughlikeSia* could win, and just happen to request full manuscripts from all the books she likes *coughalltheWombats* for Nathan to peruse. Just sayin. LOL
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:32pm EDT
Could it be Dana time? :-)
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:36pm EDT
Yes, I believe it just might be. And where is our cool-coated friend?

Also, last we heard Sy was suffering a cold. Do you suppose he's still withering?

One more: Does anyone ever hear from Brenda?

And, of course, no list of long-time-no-see Wombats would be complete without a shout out to Junie B!
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:39pm EDT
BTW, I thought of a great title and the beginning of a new novel last night. Why do I do that? Someone please remind me I have THREE WIPs already in dire need of attention!
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:41pm EDT
And by "someone", I mean anybody but Jamie.
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Jill Lynn A. Apr 9, 2009, 11:43pm EDT
*sigh*

Okay, I'm done. Let Dana come in and do her own Dana! LOL
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 10, 2009, 12:04am EDT
Jill, it's all pretend. You can submit your choices but that doesn't mean they will be requested. It's designed to give writers a feel for the slush pile is like. 50 Query letters sent to you over the course of day. Nathan says that's a light day. Some of the queries are actual queries that have been accepted and he wants to see if you can pick out those too. Sounds like fun, but also a lot more work than I'm willing to do right now.
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Sherrie Super Apr 10, 2009, 12:05am EDT
Oooh, but maybe you need a fourth, Jill, just to round out the set, you understand.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 10, 2009, 12:10am EDT
Well, the storm hit. Pat, I love thunderstorms but not when they can spawn a tornado. We had about 10 minutes or less, of hail. Thankfully, not a baseball sized ice cube feel--more like the size of a nickel. So maybe the storm played baseball further south and used it all up. My roof is very happy about that. It's raining enough so you can hear it hit the roof so that will be a lovely thing to fall asleep to. Which is about time for me to do. I love the sound.
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Paul Allen Leoncini Apr 10, 2009, 12:17am EDT
The BLACK moment comes when man-flesh-and-bone slithers from the marrow . . Gee, I guess when the editing starts; that's no FUN!!! . .

Hola Sia . .

Later on . . .
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 10, 2009, 12:22am EDT
Hello Paul.

Another one Jill. Um don't you have 3 that need attention first? lol!

Got my article written and scheduled to hit after mid-night. I even have a nice fairy godmother in purple with a wand scattering sparkles everywhere.

Well people, I'm going to bed. Carry on and all that. I'll talk to you all tomorrow.
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 12:51am EDT
Pat, am I supposed to have a stupid grin on my face and tears in my eyes? That just made me happy!

Happy Birthday, woman! A birthday week is the ONLY way to celebrate (unless, of course, you're GOING TO PARIS)

Jamie, re: Word 2007. Two words: Change Defaults.

It now opens every word doc in perfect Sourcebooks publishing format (except I use TNR 14, instead of TNR12 b/c I'm used to pacing at 14. I switch it to 12 when I'm ready to send it in.)

Jill - I heard from Brenda. Talked to her even!

Oooh! Purple and sparkles!
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:00am EDT
Oh, sure. The one night I'm up late, no one else is. sigh.

I'm going to bed. Viv, I checked out your "diva" article - the Wombats have got your back. It's all good. Please don't delete.

Happy Good Friday, everyone.
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:00am EDT
Okay, I can't resist.

I can do a Dana!
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:00am EDT
And, yes, I did just get back from Survivor night, why do you ask?
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:02am EDT
We put a promo item together for the luncheon I go to (and am sponsoring a scholarship at this year) in Long Island in June. The promo piece is a silver mermaid charm (that I could actually make into earrings and might just do that) on a lanyard for your cell phone, along with a IOHH tag attached to it.
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:02am EDT
Oh, and we had champagne.
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:02am EDT
Why?
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:02am EDT
Why not?
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:03am EDT
I mean, do you really need an excuse to have champagne?
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:03am EDT
I certainly don't.
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:04am EDT
Have I bored you all enough yet?
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:04am EDT
Well, I've bored myself. So I'm calling it a night and an end to the Dana.
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simon g. Apr 10, 2009, 1:09am EDT
I am NOT at this moment landing in Milan. I should be, but Im not. That annoying cold turned into bronchitis, and I had to postpone my departure. So, what can I say. At least I learned not to be such a wiseass, using ill health to invoke sympathy.

I have managed to archive a bit more than half of the phantasmagoria stories (with coments) and will do the rest tomorrow.
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simon g. Apr 10, 2009, 1:12am EDT
Judi,Im still up, coughing away (Jamie, I hope this is not what you have).
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Sheila Deeth Apr 10, 2009, 1:17am EDT
Sounds an interesting exercise Sia, but hard work. Not sure I'm up to it, but maybe it's something I should try. Sorry about the bugs and rejection going round. And sorry I missed the chat.
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Wanda H. Apr 10, 2009, 2:55am EDT
I haven't done anything like this although I have done something sorta like this just not this thorough. Now I really want to do this. It sounds like a great tool to analyze a story similar to mine and see if I can come close to the flow.

Great article Sia.
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Beth H. Apr 10, 2009, 3:47am EDT
Sy, I'm so sorry for the bronchitis and the postponed trip! How awful for you. Judi, the champagne musta been good. Jill, what's another novel when the idea's cooking away...? Take some notes and work on that one when it's time.

I apparently don't have OneNote. What can you do with it that you can't do with other programs?
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Jamie C. Apr 10, 2009, 8:10am EDT
And where, pray tell, are the effin' defaults? They've hidden them under 45 clicks in unintuitive locations, I'm sure. Who designed the program? A monkey on crack?

My nose is still running, but I'm not coughing. I have a long, crappy day ahead of me, so staying in bed is not an option.

I won't say that you should have at least 7 WIPs at all times, then, Jill. But I only say that because that's what you want to hear.

Feel better, Sy. That bronchitis stuff SUCKS. My lungs still don't have the capacity they had before that horrible case of brochitis I had last year. I can really feel it when I exercise, my lungs say "uh, no".

Off to work. *blows nose
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 10:22am EDT
Sorry, Sy, I missed you.

Jamie - defaults. There's no one set place. I right click on a blank page, format paragraph then click on Defaults in that box. Ditto with page set up and font.

Beth - you can do the same thing in Word as OneNote, but it's easier to retrieve. My laptop has it loaded in the bar on the bottom right and when I click on it, it automatically opens to the last one I had opened. Also, I uploaded a map of Florida and the Atlantic Ocean then could use the powerpoint tools (for lack of a better term, but that's what they remind me of) to mark where the hero's house was, where they found the mermaid, where the sea monster's house is, etc. so I don't have to keep reinventing the wheel every time to make sure I get my directions, right, etc. It's like powerpoint in that you can put anything anywhere on the page and move it around easily. And when you copy and paste a picture it automatically brings the web location with it.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 10, 2009, 10:48am EDT
Every time I think I'm getting quite geeky, someone comes up with something different. Um, no, you really aren't all the geeky yet Sia.

Judi, I'm thinking I need a Survivors night. Of Course that entails traveling a bit because, squirrels and bunnies don't do well on champagne.

I have a choice of using my friend Alex's newest word she bought just this year or the one I have that is marked 2006. Now, I do not want hassles when I'm trying to write. I'm wondering about the 2006 version...

Wanda, I do a form of my exercise, nothing as complicated as this. Like I said we did something very much like this in the anatomy of a best seller--we did mmm, I thinking 4 of them and different genres and since then, lot of this type of thing is done mentally when I'm reading.
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~Sia McKye~ Apr 10, 2009, 11:54am EDT
I had a Cinderella moment when I writing my blog article last night. Well, not the article so much but the clip art I used. Purple and sparklie. Bippity-boppity-Boo, and don't you wish is was that easy--where's fairy godmother?

Bringing Back The Spark—Writing Three-Dimensional
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Wendy C. Apr 10, 2009, 12:12pm EDT
Running through. PP let me catch up on the thread. Now she wants to go outside and play in her sensory table. (I put bird seed in it. Big hit!)

Hicken soup on the the stove and hugs to everyone who needs them. Off with me.
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Dale C. Apr 10, 2009, 12:22pm EDT
Weirdly enough, Word 2007 doesn't bother me too much. The big downside for me is that there is a bug in the booklets format that screws up the placement of graphics unless you save in Word 97-2003 mode. The new layout takes some getting used to, but the trick is to:

a) Figure that if it was under the "File" menu it is now probably under the little office logo thing at the top left.
b) Understand that what look like menus aren't anymore. They're tabs, with each tab giving a different set of icons
c) Most of the Word 2003 dialog boxes are still there, usually as options on the bottom row of the ribbon. Just click on the diagonal-downward arrow by "Paragraph" or whatever and you'll get the old options
d) Some tabs are context sensitive. For example most of the picture formatting options aren't available unless you have a picture selected.
e) The good new stuff is for the most part not available if you save in Word 97-2003 format, but there is a lot of good new functionality, including some ways of mixing text and graphics that I think open a lot of new doors for page design. Some of the graphics handling stuff is also very useful.

All that being said, the program has been a PITA to switch over to, and I still find myself spending too much time searching for some options.
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Dale C. Apr 10, 2009, 12:51pm EDT
And now for something entirely different: Pride And Prejudice And Zombies:The Classic Regency Romance - Now with Ultraviolent Zombie Mayhem!

Got to admit that the title caught my eye.
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Judi F. Apr 10, 2009, 1:01pm EDT
Oh, yeah. Have seen that one. It's got a big article in RT's May issue.

Luckily, the romance is with zombie hunters, not the actual zombies...
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Pat S. Apr 10, 2009, 1:29pm EDT
Thanks for the link, Dale, but not a big zombie fan. Though perhaps I should add them to Ashes. Turn it into Jane Eyre, with zombies. The idea does have merit. And perhaps would be more marketable!

Sia, loved your blog article, and the clip art! And Wendy, sounds as if you are going to have a fun day! And Sy, sorry to hear about the postponed trip. Hope you are feeling better.

I'm all caught up on my email, at last, and am once more going to try to get back to Anne Bonny and see what happens. I read on Nathan Bransford's blog that the first posthumous book coming out from Michael Crichton is going to be about pirates in the 17th century, with sea battles and everything. I have little actual pirate stuff in mine, but it's nice to know pirates never really lose their allure in the marketplace!
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