"We know very well that the drug traffickers are motivated by the demand for illegal drugs in the United States, that they are armed by the transport of weapons from the United States to Mexico," Secretary of State Clinton said during a news conference with Mexican Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa. "We see this as a responsibility to assist the Mexican government and people."
Clinton continued: "our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade."
And she acknowledged that U.S. anti-drug policies have failed, noting that "clearly, what we have been doing has not worked and it is unfair for our incapacity . . . to be creating a situation where people are holding the Mexican government and people responsible."
In other U.S./Mexico news:
A day before Clinton's arrival here, the Obama administration announced that it would send hundreds of additional federal agents and intelligence analysts to the border to target drug cartels and keep the violence that has killed more than 7,000 people in Mexico in the last 15 months from spilling into the United States.
I need to speak my mind on this one, because I was stung this morning to see another Gather posting which opined "no wonder she (Clinton) lost the election", and offered the view that the chaos in Mexico is all "the fault of the drug dealers". Regarding Clinton's statement that USA's insatiable demand for cocaine is causing this mess: no point to disputing that, it is self evident. In a world where nobody buys drugs, there will be no drug dealers. You can reply to our Secretary of State by using the word "duh"- but in that regard, it should be noted that this admission is new territory for high U.S. officials. It's okay to say a self evident thing if nobody else admitted it. Start with the truth, and proceed from there.
If you want to blame Mexicans for shipping drugs here, you are going to have to admit that we are just as guilty for exporting the illegal guns there that they are using to kill each other over a slice of the drug trade pie. It's a partnership, we buy, they sell, we sell, they buy. I visualize millions of Americans glimpsing this on television, and responding with a snide ethnic slur. Gee, hope the chaos won't cross the border. Are you kidding? We created the chaos, just as we created the immigration crisis before it. We were handing out jobs with bigger paychecks than they had ever dreamed of, and not usually checking their ID's real carefully. Would you stay home in an impoverished village under those circumstances?They are not much interested in crossing the border to kill each other- it makes more sense for them to stick to business in the USA- just sell the drugs and go home. If you want to kill a rival, you are not going to do it in Tucson, that could attract unwelcome attention from Gringos. Do the killing back in Ciudad Juarez, amigo.
Our hunger for a snort of coke has not quite turned Mexico into a failed state, but it is nothing to write home about. The rise of the cocaine cartels has resulted in a spirit of lawlessness. See a good looking young woman? Rape her, shoot her, toss the body into a ravine. Need some money? Kidnap a member of a wealthy family, mail his ear to his mom, if the money takes too long to arrive, just knife him and move on to the next family. There will always be criminals in this world, granted. But to deny our share of responsibility for the mess in Mexico is unacceptable. Clinton spoke the truth. The saddest victims of the drug trade may not even be the users, but rather the innocent people back where the drugs came from who are doomed to live blighted lives.


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I met a Mexican in Rio who was looking into the possibility of living there - leaving his home in Mexico to live safely elsewhere in the world. He was fortunate to have the where-with-all to pursue his desire for safety. Most do not. Coincidentally, a hotel in the same town (Buzios which we could have been staying in was held up by 7 armed men and the 40 Argentinean guests robbed over a four hour period. Makes one wonder where "safe" is.
Kinda' like those kids on peanut allergies.
The amount of US firearms going south so far seems minimal given the scope of the fighting there. The Sov bloc/military weapons are coming from elsewhere, especially the MGs/RPGs/infantry rifles (AKs/M16s/FNs)/grenades, mines etc. I understand that its easy to think all firearms come from the US but South America has a large civilian firearm industry that produces quality weapons cheaper than we do. Given the looseness of their regs and ease of border crossings, why try to get them through the country with the more restricted borders and laws?
Anyway, Holder the AG is using the arms smuggling straw man for another weapons ban. This time however, he's running into serious Dem opposition and his one showpiece case has already been thrown out in Federal district court as the judge found their was no attempt to bypass present laws. After all, no one can catch all the liars on the paperwork for legal firearms presented by Mexican smugglers.
First, it gets rid of a law against a free growing weed--hemp/marijuana can grow anywhere, anyhow which is part of the problems with it being considered illegal;
if decriminalized, our law enforcement agencies could work on real crime,
Its also much more difficult to make money on the streets on something that is legal!
If legalized, its another source of taxable goods which does help out the economy;
Our agricultural economy would get a boost from being able to grow hemp crops--which makes great cloth, etc. -- another boost to the economy.
So, yes, Tim Nelson, Legalizing pot could help the economy!
They, Mexico, also wants us to stop the drug/arms business but do so without interferring with "immigration."
Mexican people need guns, and need a revolution. Mexico is not a poor nation, but all the wealth is in the hands of the few. Guns are used by the Mexican Oligargacy to keep the people there poor.
NO TAX money is collected for public education, or any other public instutition that would benefit their people.
Maybe some of the drug runner guns will get into the hands of the people?
For this reason I really hate providing Mexico with any aid.
American gun sellers supply the cartels with 95 to 100 percent of their guns, according to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Are the weapons automatics? Some are, most probably are not. You can be killed with one bullet, that's all it takes.
I know that our money supports the guns but then there money pays us for our guns which are then spent on their drugs in the end its just one big circle.
(Game: guess the ending of this Mexican saying: "Poor Mexico--so far from God, so near ____________."
John and Aniko, I have to concede that Mexico and most of the nations of Latin America are the inheritors of a colonial system in which Spanish conquerors became the upper class, and the "mestizo" or mixed-blood and native american survivors became the underclass. The dynamic was very different from that of the USA and Canada, in which Europeans displaced native americans. History has much to do with the predicament of mexico. No, they cannot blame ALL their troubles on the Gringos, that will not fly. But our drug hunger is dragging them down.
Of am I wrong about that?
(They have the best music though.)
Oh yes, you win, of course. :-)
it will calm down when they have culled their own ranks.
I wonder if drug users know they are part of a problem that kills thousands of people or do they blame Mexico exclusively.
I concur with Gerry (and Cheri Cabot) in the first comments.
The second part of Secretary of State Clinton's remarks are equally improtant - the drug cartels are armed by assault weapons that they buy in unregulated marts across the Southwest USA.
This is crap.
The Mexican government (for years) has confiscated truck loads of weapons that have been traced to gun shows in the US.
The Village idiot who recently inhabited the White House promised action on cross-border gun sales many times -but, then, he also promised to safeguard the Constitution.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15305
http://www.gunguys.com/?p=3364
The most thorough study of cross-border weaponry has been done by the Brady Center -there are lots of illustrations, so the right wingnuts might be able to learn something.
http://www.bradycenter.org/xshare/pdf/reports/exporting-gun-violence.pdf
I think that Dave F. is advocating that the US revokes the law of 1878 that prohibits the military from being deployed in civilain law enforcement.
So, you want to live in a police state?
God save us from right-wing indiots.