Gene Robinson has been invited to say a prayer at the inauguration after the homosexual community whined over Rick Warren being invited to pray. Mr. Robinson said he won't be using the Bible to pray and won't be sounding especially "Christian."
Why should he sound Christian when he specifically violates the Bible and what God said about homosexuality?
My question is that how can you call yourself a Christian and then not stand for the basis of Christianity which is the Bible? I mean, what are you basing your supposed salvation on if you reject what Christianity stands on in the first place. God said that not one word or letter of the Bible will pass away even if Heaven and earth pass away so what are these supposed Christians basing their salvation on? And, how are they going to explain it to God when they leave this earth? Do they honestly believe they are going to tell God that they chose to ignore His Word and His commandments but they still want to come into His Kingdom?
If someone said they wanted to come live in your house but wanted to ignore what you say and your rules for your house, would you let them? I wouldn't!
I don't hate homosexuals. I feel sorry for them. I think it's sad that they've allowed satan to con them into something that is going to kill them ultimately. I'm not talking about AIDS or any other physical disease. The Bible says the wages of sin is death - spiritual death. Just because all these people have conned themselves into believing they can claim Jesus as their Savior and ignore His commandments and still go sit in the throne room of God are absolute fools.
No, I don't hate homosexuals. I pray for the blinders to come off their eyes before it is too late. I don't want anyone to spend eternity in hell. God doesn't want that. But He won't force them to listen to Him, either. You can believe what you want but God's way is what is going to happen in the end whether you agree with it or not.
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Mr. Robinson was asked way long before anyone started whining about Mr. Warren. I will not judge you, stop judging others. Let those without sin cast the first stone. Or are you so-called "Christians" so perfect that you don't sin. I say "BULL" everyone sins and falls short of the Glory of God.
I'm not perfect, I sin. I know I'm a sinner, and I will confess to God as such. I know I'm not perfect though I try very hard to hold my tongue, to hold my anger, to do the right thing, but still I'm not a perfect person. Y'all should get a life and worry about your own selves instead of crapping on other people and trying to tell everyone how to live.
" . . . will now tell me I'm not a Christian because I like to play cards, go to the movies, read books about vampires, play Dungeon and Dragon like PC games."
Is there someplace in the Book that such things are spoken of as sins? I have read it, and don't recall seeing such things . . .
"I will not judge you . . "
"Y'all should get a life and worry about your own selves instead of crapping on other people and trying to tell everyone how to live."
That resolution didn't last very long . . .
I understand that you are a strong woman of God and hey I applaud you for that if it is what you feel led to do, but it seems like almost every article I read of yours is so angry and judgmental. And its not just one type of person you attack, you attack across the board over and over and over.
Why so angry? Where is the Christ-like love?
Jesus didn't put people down and bad mouth them...He showed them love in hopes that they would come to a greater understanding and find a better way in him.
Jesus hung out with prostitutes, liars, backstabbers, and thieves....He loved everyone and would never thought of using a tone such as you do when talking about things he found wrong.
So I ask again...where is the love? Why only hate and anger?
As a Christian we are supposed to strive to be Christ like and to let His love shine through us....and Im sorry I just am not seeing a lot of love coming out of you ever.
Like I said, I've been in many Christian denominational churchs and though the Good Book does not spacifically say thou shalt not play card etc. I've heard it preached about how these things are a sin. OMG .. I've had it run down my throut about D&D being Satin Worship.. pppsssha
As for not juding... I do think y'all need to get a life and quit worring about other people. But I never EVER said you would go to hell because you are sinners. Nowhere did I say that.
But hey, you believe as you see fit. I'm just sayin' that y'all need to let others believe as they see fit. Freedom of Religion remember.. .that's why we live in this fine country.
The originals did not exist by that time, and hundreds of other stories were discarded because they did not agree with the opinions of the MEN of the council.
"Jesus didn't put people down and bad mouth them . . "
Hmm . . . he sure does in my version;
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own for he is a liar, and the father of it.
It's hard to imagine a stronger "put down", a harsher "badmouthing".
"Jesus hung out with prostitutes, liars, backstabbers, and thieves...."
That is true, but he does not condone their sins, he calls them "sick";
And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
But when Jesus heard that, he said unto the, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
But go ye and learn what that meaneth. I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
I follow the Christ of the Book, not the "feel good guy", of popular myths. He said he came to call sinners to repentance, and if one is to "strive to be Christ like", how can one avoid mentioning his many warnings?
I simply claim to be a follower of Christ and will allow His grace to guide my life. There is too much control and hatred preached in the Church today. This is true in all the religion - a form of control quite like the Pharisees of Jesus's time.
I simply claim His sacrifice on my behalf and live my life the best way I can - knowing that I am a sinner and will suffer from this affliction until I depart from this earth.
I just cannot see the conflict in feeling good about yourself and living a normal life without Someone poking an accusing finger at you at every turn.
The journey to our salvation is a lonely journey and I believe in love being the over ruling precept in my belief system for the Father (Creator) would not have sent Christ as a sacrifice if He did not love us or wanted to reconcile our spirit back to Him.
Thank God we don't have to do all the Old testament processes, rituals and procedure to accept Grace.
"I've been in many Christian denominational churchs and though the Good Book does not spacifically say thou shalt not play card etc. I've heard it preached about how these things are a sin."
I don't care in the slightest what such people told you, and I don't understand what that has to do with sinning. I look to the Book for wisdom, not the doctrines of men. Some fool probably thinks it's a sin to bandage a wound on Sunday, but that has nothing to do with me.
"But I never EVER said you would go to hell because you are sinners. Nowhere did I say that."
So what? Are you actually proposing that only telling someone they would go to hell is judging them? This seems kinda arbitrary . . .
"But hey, you believe as you see fit. I'm just sayin' that y'all need to let others believe as they see fit."
Then why are you here lecturing folks about what is wrong with what they believe, and calling it "Bull" ? It seems that what you mean is that you are free to tell others where their error lies, but they are not free to tell anyone else such things. I don't really care about "double-talk", you are not doing this; "let others believe as they see fit"; but rather, rebuking them for what they say they believe, are you not?
Ya know I love ya, but thes two statements do not "compute" ; )
"I simply claim to be a follower of Christ and will allow His grace to guide my life. There is too much control and hatred preached in the Church today."
You do in fact render judgments of others, and rather harsh ones at that, no matter how much you claim not to. If you are justified in stating your assessment of so many, how can it be wrong of them to do the same thing? I can understand stating one's beliefs, including criticism of what others say, but I cannot understand how this grants one the right to declare others are wrong for doing the same.
Please check out the Religious Tolerance web site, especially their section on homosexuality (the site contains material and research performed by theologians and religious scholars).
And please, please do some very basic and simple fact-checking that you can do by using search engines such as Google before making posts like these!
You're really, really starting to get on my nerves, madam, with your inaccurate and hate-filled posts designed to inflame and intimidate, and perhaps even cause violence to but at the very least spread hatred against the gay community.
And you call yourself a Christian? (I know this last statement is stooping to your own level but see how you like it!)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass. one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefor shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Now, people can surely disagree on what is or is not a sin, but I see no possible way to read those words as a condemnation of those who speak of what they actually believe to be a sin, as sinful. The notion that Christians are not to warn folks about sin just don't jive with that man's words. And this doctrine of men, declaring that it is "unChristian" to speak of sin, and consequences and "remedies" and ramifications of sin, is not the doctrine of the Christ in that Book.
So will you receive spiritual death for being gay, or for not loving and treating gays with respect?
One suspects that a Christian would feel sympathy for homosexuals. One suspects that a Christian would actually treat money as the root of all evil, especially given what Jesus said to people about money. (Read that "render unto Caesar" section again and see if you see anything about money being God's.)
There are lots of injunctions and requirements in the Bible, especially the Old Testament. Have you studied the Bible and do you obey all those requirements? Yet many who call themselves Christian discriminate against those who violate one requirement while they violate many requirements themselves. Do you know any rich people? They are not Christians. No Christian would remain rich while children are dying preventable deaths in poverty. Besides, Christians want to go to heaven and Jesus tells us that is impossible.
So I would say to search for the beam in your own eye and let others work on the motes in their eyes. But then I have my own beam problems, of course. Sigh.