Some of you might have seen this article when I posted it on my blog, but that is no excuse for not joining in the discussion -- we want to hear what you have to say about your own style, how you create the specific cadence that is your style (are style and cadence the same?), and who influenced you.
This artice was written by Ken Coffman, an author who -- inexplicably -- is not a member of No Whine, Just Champagne, otherwise I would have had him post it himself. Ken writes:
Recently, my friend Lisa said this to me: "You tend to like more baroque-type authors, gravitate towards writers with that style, and write in that style. Ironically, I really do like Hemingway, in that when I read him way back when, I immediately liked and related to the prose style . . . "
It's true. We're diverse, and different things float our metaphorical schooners. See, there I go. I could have simply said boat and your eye would have slid smoothly over the cliché. But, I didn't want to.
Anyway, back to the point I'm laboring to make.
Nick looked on at the moon, coming up over the hills.
"It isn't fun any more."
He was afraid to look at Marjorie. Then he looked at her. She sat there with her back toward him. He looked at her back. "It isn't fun any more. Not any of it."
She didn't say anything. He went on. "I feel as though everything was gone to hell inside of me. I don't know, Marge. I don't know what to say."
He looked on at her back.
"Isn't love any fun?" Marjorie said.
"No," Nick said. Marjorie stood up. Nick sat there, his head in his hands.
- Ernest Hemingway, The End of Something
Of course, I can appreciate Hemingway's sparse mastery. In feeble imitation, sometimes I report things in a flat tone to emphasize a point or work against the reader's mental picture. But, generally, my ambitions lie elsewhere. I like prose that is more playful and convoluted.
Tom Robbins, who I like to call my neighbor, writes like this:
A few months later, everyone of the bride's relatives, including even distant cousins, decided that life was meaningless without that most talented, most delightful girl, not to mention her pious and generous family, and so the relatives, as well, set off for the hills and Fan Nan Nan. Their departure tore a hole in the fabric of the community; there was an abiding emptiness there.
-- Tom Robbins, Villa Incognito
The difference in style could hardly be more obvious. Tom's zany prose dances.
Then I looked at Dale, my sergeant, wringing out his shirt in a metal water drum. His back was brown, ridged with vertebrae, his ribs like sticks against his skin, the points of his black hair shiny with sweat. Then his lean Czechoslovakian face smiled at me, with more tenderness and affection in his eyes than I had yet seen in a woman's.
He was killed eight days later when a Huey tipped the treetops in an LZ and suddenly dipped sideways into the clearing.
- James Lee Burke, Heaven's Prisoners
Burke has a huge vocabulary and is unafraid to take a risk. He sits on a limb and with careful, deliberate, thoughtful strokes, works his saw.
To my taste, the master of mixing the eloquent with the absurd is Nabokov.
I thought I had crossed the frontier when a bare-headed Red Army soldier with a Mongol face who was picking whortleberries near the trail challenged me: "And whither," he asked picking up his cap from a stump, "may you be rolling (kotishsya), little apple (yablochko)? Pokazyvay-ka dokumentiki (Let me see your papers)."
I groped in my pockets, fished out what I needed, and shot him dead, as he lunged at me; then he fell on his face, as if sunstruck on the parade ground, at the feet of his king. None of the serried tree trunks looked his way, and I fled, still clutching Dagmara's lovely little revolver. Only half an hour later, when I reached at last another part of the forest in a more or less conventional republic, only then did my calves cease to quake.
- Vladimir Nabokov, Look at the Harlequins!
So, how am I doing? You judge.
"I'm bored," Nort said.
"That's because you're not doing anything."
"And you can't make me."
"Right," Jake said. "Exactly."
"I'm not staying here. I'll beg on the street."
Jake looked up.
"It used to be that a man would rather die than be a beggar or take charity," he said.
"Things are different now."
"I can see that. Good luck out there."
"What's wrong with you? You don't care about me at all."
Jake licked the tip of his pencil.
"When I was in Da Nang, I was stabbed in the gut with a sharp stick by a starving 11-year-old who wanted the three dollars in my wallet." He lifted his shirt to show a twisted scar. "After I killed him with a brick, I realized either God either didn't exist or was the biggest asshole of us all. I care about you, but out in the world you'll die of AIDS or get stabbed in an alley by a cracked-out whore. It doesn't pay to get emotionally attached to the doomed."
- Ken Coffman, Fairhaven
You plant your butt in your chair and you face the demons that live in that blank screen. You spend hours and hours wringing words, situations, and plots from too-thin air.
Who are your influences? And, what are your ambitions?
So, who are your influences? If not style-wise, then generally -- what authors have you read who helped form your writing goals? What authors do you particularly like? What is your style, and how do you create your specific cadence? Feel free to post examples of your own work (and yes, you can mention the titles). Oh, and don't forget to tell us your ambitions. (Besides the obvious one of becoming a bestselling author.) Since this is our first discussion after the long hiatus for those pesky holidays, I want you to have fun.
The group No Whine, Just Champagne will exchange ideas about style, cadence, and influences during our live discussion on January 8, 2009 at 9:00pm ET.


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As for writes who have influenced my style? Maybe Fitzgerald and Capote. Love Capote.
I will write again soon. Thanks for this lovely read...
Before that poets like Emerson, Millay and ee cummings.
Conroy and Hurst for their imagery.
Great article, Pat!
I believe Hemingway said something like, "Writing is easy, you just sit down at the typewriter and bleed."
And, of course, though I don't have his style; Hemingway has always been a favorite.
Maybe ya'all will know if it has a name.
Great article Pat.
I am open to it all.
"... I realized either God either didn't exist or was the biggest asshole of us all."
Mystery novelist that I enjoy include Sue Grafton, Tony Hillerman, and JA Jance (though I'm particular about the characters). I find myself most influence by character development, but now that I'm actively learning the craft of writing, I'm trying to go back and really explore what makes various books 'work' for me as a reader. I'm definitely in the midst of the 'consciously incompetent' writing stage. I'm hoping, over the next year to make it to 'consciously competent', but it's going to be a challenge!
Soooo, guess I'll have to let you know the answer once I've developed my style!
I look forward to the discussion tonight. Hopefully, I'll remember to log on!
For me, language is one of the most appealing elements of reading. That's why I never skip paragraphs, and in fact, read them several times when I especially like them.
Ken Coffman's examples are outstanding. I also like James Lee Burke and have been influenced by him. His scenes use all the senses to capture the essence of the Louisiana bayou.
From BLACK CHERRY BLUES, A Dave Robicheaux novel by James Lee Burke
"Her hair is curly and gold on the pillow, her skin white in the heat lightning that trembles beyond the pecan trees outside the bedroom window. The night is hot and breathless, the clouds painted like horsetails against the sky; a peal of thunder rumbles out on the Gulf like an apple rolling around in the bottom of a wood barrel, and the first raindrops ping against the window fan. She sleeps on her side, and the sheet molds her thigh, the curve of her hip, her breast."
Another favorite of mine is Amy Tan. She blends language, story, character, and humor into unified masterpieces.
From JOY LUCK CLUB by Amy Tan
"My mother believed you could be anything you wanted to be in America. You could open a restaurant. You could work for the government and get good retirement. You could buy a house with almost no money down. You could become rich. You could become instantly famous.
'Of course, you can be a prodigy, too,' my mother told me when I was nine. 'You can be best anything. What does Auntie Lindo know? Her daughter, she is only best tricky.' "
Style, I think, is a combination of cadence, word choice, alliteration, and metaphor.
Heat rose from concrete and asphalt pavements, and humidity much too steamy for September, hung thick and heavy in the air. Sandra Scott stood in a cavernous classroom behind a colossal oak desk—the teacher’s desk—amid stark fluorescent lighting, a wall of open windows, and the smell of dusty grammar books on the shelves below. Stacks of a rebound literature anthology, green to match the boards, towered on the sills.
It was the first day of school at Somerville High, five miles north of Boston. Sandy checked her note cards, again. She fluffed her freshly frosted hair, newly cut in layers to just below her chin. She fanned herself with limp class lists.
Surveying the scene in front of her, which included seating for thirty students, Sandy caught a glimpse of her chest heaving up and down, keeping time with a steady whoosh of long, deep breaths. Launching a new career, her second in as many years, made her heart pound.
Relentlessly, it beat in her ears, like "A Tell-Tale Heart."
Chapter 1 is available for free download at www.ShirleyAnnHoward.com
Heat rose from concrete and asphalt pavements. Humidity, much too steamy for September, hung thick and heavy. Sandra Scott stood in a cavernous classroom behind the teacher’s colossal oak desk amid stark fluorescent lighting, a wall of open windows, and the smell of dusty grammar books on the shelves below. Stacks of a rebound literature anthology, green to match the boards, towered on the sills.
It was the first day of school at Somerville High, five miles north of Boston. Sandy checked her note cards one more time. She fluffed her freshly frosted hair, newly cut in layers to just below her chin. She fanned herself with limp class lists.
Surveying the scene in front of her including seating for thirty students, Sandy caught a glimpse of her chest heaving up and down with a steady whoosh of long, deep breaths. Launching a new career, her second in as many years, made her heart pound. Relentlessly it beat in her ears like "A Tell-Tale Heart."
Your version is reminiscent of Hemingway, short and clipped, similar to his journalist style. I think that creates tension in a work and is appropriate if that's the intent of the author.
My version (which mind you was probably written and revised at least seventy-five times--no exaggeration) tries to capture the overall tenor of the novel, which is a combination of tension and inner peace.
I describe it as.... A young woman searches for self and love in an unclear world.
One that comes to mind is Nora Roberts, in so far as character dynamics. I like the way she shows realistic emotional ties between siblings. I also like how she shows that people can form ties as close siblings. Friendship. That's hallmark even when she writes as JD Robb. Plus, she's a Celtic lass who knows how to tell a good story.
Poetry has been a bigger influence on my writing than prose. The feel of the words used. Their rhythm and flow. The ability to touch a reader's emotions.
One, I like books that tell of unknown events or show history in a different light or speak of real life conspiracies, and she did that very well.
Two, she had an execrable style (In one book I swear she used the word inexorable on every other page. About drove me nuts.) which taught me to pay attention to what I want to say, don't duplicate words or effects, and write shorter books.
This is from a book by Shane Abe:
"The ruby silk swished and floated like a bright zephyr at her feet, the color so warm it reflected back off the polished floors. The Scotswomen walked ahead, deliberating over where the laird might be, and Leila took silent note of walls, portraits, marble busts, memorizing her way back. They passed doors open and closed, and then an open door with voices within.
"The tone of those voices caught Leila's attention at once - cracked and worried, the sharp shades of crisis."
So very Twain.
Or Hemingway. I read him in college. He was good.
Elmore Leonard, walked into my living room with a large suitcase, a gun and an attitude. "Whats up" I asked him. He didnt answer or smile, before he shot me through the heart. Now there is some style, I thought just before I died.
Ann Tyler, invited me to her large house in Baltimore, and allowed me to sit in her parlor, while she continued her often interrupted monologue with Silky, the cat who had belonged to he first husband's daughter's girl friend Ramona. The third time the phone rang, it was Ramona herself, and the monologue became a dialog, from which I learned a good deal about the complex relationships among those who had inhabited this world.
Sy, Runyan is unique but fun.
I love Julia's way with humor and that's what made me decide to place a bit of humor somewhere in my WIP's. I love the little chuckles in the book that relieve the tension somewhat. Then, I love to switch gears, and choke you up a bit. With either sadness, or anger, or even confusion.
Sometimes, it's good to throw the reader off the scent. I will post a snippet of my latest short story to show my writing style.
If I'm really into something, I read it first thing in the morning with my tea.
Lately, I have been writing a little, though. Finally got my hero into the dang zoo. Writing for a single character is hard -- no one for him to bounce off of, no one to add conflict or humor. Now I will have too many characters, but the pages should add up quicker -- more dialogue, less exposition and introspection and running from active volcanoes, putrified forests, killer rivers, devil toads.
I know I have a voice of my own, where it came from I can't begin to explain. Personally I tend to lean toward the most impact with the fewest words. Wow, how did they say all of that in 2 pages?
Anymore I have to turn the student/edit witch off in order to enjoy a book.
Publish shmublish. All I need is a comment like that one to put me in heaven. Writing is grand, aint it?
Me.
Gracie watched as Evan rubbed the back of his neck. Every time he did that, his muscles stretched and bunched. And, her mouth went dry. His black hair combined with his emerald green eyes always put shivers down her spine.
Blast it! Why couldn’t she stop thinking of him?
Evan watched as Gracie worried her bottom lip. That plump mouth of hers, seemed to be doing strange things to him this evening. Every time she spoke, he had to grit his teeth to hold back the true things he wished to say to her.
He had known how much Steven had hurt and misled her. And, how she wished to steer clear of office romances. That had been why he hadn’t revealed any of his secret desires.
Batting eyes.. what?
And now that I am done clowning around (Shirley Ann, you must learn not to encourage me), I find that if I need to change my style, say from my normal wise guy fiction, to my other normal academic deadpan, or back, it helps to read something in the proper style. Then I can get back into it. So I guess, yeah, I am very imitative.
Does that happen to you guys? After reading For Whom the Bell Tolls, do you find yourself writing sentences like "I ate it, and it was good."?
I don't think I read slow enough to pick up anyone's style.
Angela, thanks for the explanation. Your novel sounds like fun!
I think this is very well written, and it engages the interest. I gave you a 10, although I was disappointed in the ending of the chapter. Seeing yourself married to an exgirl friend etc. is either a dream, or so weird, that one would expect a different reaction than going about normal business. Still, I will patiently await chapter 2, and try not to dream about this at all.
For sale.
Baby shoes.
Never worn.
But for my nonfiction, thats different. My ambition is to have a book sell enough to be able to talk about it, to have it talked about, to debate and discuss. I did a discussion of my first book at a think tank that was televised on CSPAN, and later I told my host, "I didnt come her to sell my book, I wrote the book, so I could come here."
Turns out that was the hight point, although I cant complain for a first book. I have hi