FINALLY WINDING DOWN ... AND ENDING :)
I'll end with only two more examples & maybe a hand out. Hopefully some of you will have some examples you can share with us.
Two reasons that is helpful. It's encouraging to hear your victory and it might give someone else just the idea they need to get rid of bitterness in their own life.
It's hard to know which to share. There are so many small victories ... and they're all a little boring written out :)
Maybe the story of my X sons in law could give you some ideas.
My oldest daughter is so kind and loving. Her spouse became more and more selfish.They adopted two children as he could not have his own. He didn't treat them nice.
Everyone has a past. He told me, when they were dating, that his Mom didn't like him. Right! I've talked to young people before. Their parents tell a different side to their stories :)
However . . .
His parents were in a different state and I met his Mom on the phone. In our discussion she mentioned that she had never liked D. How sad. She had shared that with him at a young age.
Anyway, things got worse for my daughter. She finally shared with me that he had been going out on her.
Actually, at this time with an older teen ager in the church. She had suspected & then overheard a phone call. I had noticed the girl chasing and flirting with him at Church.
Not blaming her more than him, just stating a fact because I had been concerned about the situation. He was older and married and the greater responsibility was with him.
My daughter told him it was over and he had to leave the house. His parents were furious and broke contact with him.
I was also angry. So ... I invited him to live with me for a short time until he could make financial arrangements for someplace to stay.
I was very straight forward with D. He knew just how I felt. But as soon as he came in I could honestly say to him, 'I love you. I want you to straighten your life out.' Also, the girl he said he loved was in a Northern state for a visit and was afraid to come home as the info would be out soon.
I resented her so badly ... I took a deep breath and asked him if he would ask her to talk with me. I would help her walk through it. He got her on the phone. She was afraid to talk to me but consented with his pressure.
We talked for some time and I heard the little girl in her. She had always done everything right. Been the good girl. This was to be a very big fall in the eyes of her parents and the community. She was very afraid.
I told her she needed to come home and tell her parents now, before it all came out. She said she just couldn't. I offered to go with her. This we did. Somehow, God removed the girls actions, in my mind, from the pain that my daughter was going through. I could empathize with her and really did have feelings of love and protection.
I was happy to see she was genuinely finding her way back to God again.
D soon found an apt and had the money to move in, but we kept up with him.
It was a little hard on my daughter that I helped the girl. But she knew what I was doing and why. She also knew I was very honest with the girl about what she had done. My daughter had to do the same thing somewhere along the line. And she did.
Meanwhile, without exaggeration I can say that as I worked with those two, walking them through the mess they made, requiring both of them to admit to church authorities what they had done, I did have a great deal of love for them. The bitterness I started with was gone. There is so much more to people than just what they did wrong. But unless we step into their side of the battle, we don't focus on it.
My sadness and ache for my daughter was helped by the fact that her pain was short lived. She had been suffering with suspicions about other affairs for a long time and I hadn't known. Shortly, she was actually relieved that he was gone and an old pressure lifted off of her. She also found a wonderful man and they've had a good marriage. D allowed him to re adopt the children although he was still free to visit all he wanted.
Let me
just say I've stayed close to my other X sons in law. In fact, through contact with one of them after he left my daughter, he accepted the Lord as his Savior and asked my daughter to remarry him. He was crestfallen when she said no. (He he.)
She made him court her for quite a while ... and then married him. They are still together and both, with their children, are growing with the Lord.
Loving your enemy never hurts. :)
It doesn't mean there are no confrontations. The truth ought to be spoken. You can't get on with life unless your cards are on the table in close or family relationships.
I'll leave family behind :)
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THE ENEMY I DIDN'T THINK GOD COULD HANDLE
It's really a nonsense story. But the one I had the worst time with. I was the one in the wrong :) I was a case worker for the welfare office. So was she, Mary B. She had been there since before they moved into the building and a long time before. She walked around like she owned the place. And people let her.
Workers, for one reason or another sometimes had to get a case from someone else's case load, usually due to a name change. We called the other worker & went and picked up the case. Or ... if a child on the case got married and opened her own case, we would go the other other workers area and get birth certificate, social security card etc copies.
Mary B never did. She would call us and ask us to bring it to her. & we did. But it irritated me to death. And she knew it.
One day, when she called, I said, "I'll pull the case and put it on the my clerks desk for you Mary."
"That will be fine."
She hummed as she came into the room, picked the case up and left. I felt great. I'd finally won.
Another parent and I shared taking our two girls to school. She took them, I picked them up. The little girl had prayed for her Mom for several years. We did when we thought of it but didn't really know her. Finally one day, the little girl was thrilled because her Mom had accepted Christ.
When I dropped her off that afternoon, I went in to talk to her Mom. She had never known anything about God and was so delighted in Him. She was a bartender at a restaurant and bar in town. When I told her where I worked, she said,
"Oh, do you know Mary B?"
'Oh-h-h-h, yes I do.'
"Isn't she the most beautiful woman?"
(What!?#!? Beautiful? NO. She's fat and ugly.)
'Wel-l-l-l-l ...'
"I just love her. She is the funniest, kindest woman.
You be sure and tell her hi for me."
'I will, I will. Well, I better go. I just wanted to tell you how happy I am for you.'
Why was I so uncomfortable? Because her joy in Christ was so pure His presence so great I was humiliated in front of Him. Why had I allowed this enemy in my life? Why had I not chosen to love her? 'Because it wouldn't work in this instance. Nothing could make me love her. I don't want to love her.'
The next day at work I either talked or thought fast because I didn't want my thoughts to go to her. I didn't want to think about God. It was hopeless. There was no possible way I would deal with her. Then, without hardly meaning to, I stood up. Everything in me yelled "NO!" but I just kept picking up one foot and setting it down in front of the other. I don't know why I was walking toward her door. I had nothing to say to her. I could NOT love her ... but I just kept lifting each heavy foot as I walked down the hall. Why was I going? What was I going to say? What was I doing ?!#%?
I opened the door to the fairly large room. They were doing reconstruction work and were storing all the office dividers in that room with the only desk, hers, back in the corner. I kept walking feeling panic inside because I had nothing to say as I jig jagged through all the dividers. I couldn't believe I was actually going to face her momentarily.
As I stepped around the last divider Mary looked up ... I actually gasped out loud and stared at her. S
he was beautiful. And I couldn't help it, I said that to her. 'Mary, you ARE beautiful.'
And in that very moment I loved her.
I told her I had never really seen how pretty she was before, but the waitress at the bar & restaurant had mentioned her last night. 'She told me how beautiful you were, and what a nice person you were. I just wanted to share that with you.'
All bad feelings were gone. I walked back down the hall wanting to sing. Not just because I loved Mary, but because I didn't trust God at all; I didn't intend to go down there; but He somehow took me there and faithfully filled my heart with love.
I didn't deserve this reward, but He wanted me to have it.
"I will never doubt you again Lord."
I could hardly keep from crying all afternoon because, I could not trust Him in this silly stupid pettiness but He cared about me, and worked His work anyway & I was just so happy.
Life isn't orderly. I'd had heavy tragedies ... and it was pretty easy to trust Him and obey. This nonsense, I couldn't overcome without Him dragging me down there and even taking control of the dialogue. But He rewarded me equally.
What can I say? Just do it :)
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family. God bless you,
Thanks for coming by ... and commenting.
An unbelievable situation with her ex spouse and her widower there celebrating Christmas along with her two children. All that was dear to her ... her children, parents & both spouses ... sharing together. I wonder if she was allowed to know. I hope so. What a pleasure it would be for her.
I'm sure she prayed for her ex's salvation when they were together. God is faithful to answer even after divorce, after her death, after much time. His plan continues.
I don't know how you managed to still keep both men close to you Elsie. You've done a wonderful job with your family.
I didn't even necessarily want to forgive them. I just wanted rid of my bitterness. It turned out the two went together :):) Ha ha. Jokes's on me.
That's why I'm so enamoured with the promises given to the one who will take the action of love toward their enemy. I know they will be surprised by the joy it gives.
Thanks for coming by ms teach. And for your comments.
I have read of a Christian couple actually goint to prison to meet the man that brutally killed their daughter. They forgave him and prayed for his salvation. He did receive the Lord and they had an ongoing relationship. So evidently God was there faithfully doing His thing.
Forgiving someone that molested your kids as big. That is still raw inside. Every time that comes to mind it can still bring tears that it was going on all the time and I was blind to it. Wasn't there for them. I think it's OK if it always hurts. I know God has used it for good in their life in spite of the pain.
What do you think C? Don't you think, that ultimately, as long as a person forces themself to take that step of obedience, it is God's faithfulness that is at test here? I do. And IF it is, then . . . ? I don't mean you can always love your enemy the moment it happens. Everything has it's own story. It's own timing. At the moment, I want to shut my eyes and run away at the very thought of one of my kids being hurt.
Good question.
Thanks for bringing your baby by for a visit :)
Merry Christmas to you.
I'm sure people are getting sick of this subject :):) It only takes 1 lesson giving it in person. It takes 5 when writing it out.
What a great God.
Merry Christmas
Great post, Glome and I agree with everyone else here....YOU are such a huge inspiration. I appreciate your honesty and sharing.
~*~Thank you~*~
I can tell your problem is serious and affects both of you a lot. Also, you don't seem to know exactly where you stand with God when He doesn't seem to come through. I'm glad he has stood by you, but as you said, it is a loss for him and that's hard.
Can you share when your trouble started? Has he ever tried to talk to them about the situation?
Don't respond if you'd rather not. I was just thinking that maybe we'd come up with some idea's to help you if we knew more.
It sounds like you've been through a lot in the last few years.
I'm glad you wrote. I'm praying that God give you wisdom Kitty.
It is really nice that you were able to erase some old hurts with that one fellow. Nice that he was motivated to call.
Thank you for coming by. I'm wondering what will replace the Santa hat :)
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Thanks for coming again. Merry Christmas.
Hey Beate ... thanks for coming by and Merry Christmas to you also :)
Thank you for your testimonials.
God is all emcompassing to me. I walk with the Lord each and every day and try to be the best that I can be. Forgiveness is key but forgiving does not mean that one does not forget their trespassers.
You're truly in the front lines, Glome - the kind of Love you're allowing Creator to practice through you: SOUL FRIENDSHIP.
We've never forgotten any of the things he did. They changed all our lives. Permanent damge was done. Scars are still there. Any of us would be foolish to trust him with grandchildren. And ... btw, I insisted he tell Xspouse tell new wife, G, what he had done.
I did not allow the children to go down to see him until he told her. Also, she had two boys (which wasn't his weakness as my son was unharmed.) Nevertheless, it had to be shared. I had to be sure the children had her protection when they went to see him.
Finally, he told her, maybe 10 or 11 months after he left. He called to tell me he had told her and she understood why they couldn't come down. At that point I told him they now COULD come down. I wanted her to come up with him to pick up the children. When she came in, which was the first time we'd seen each other since the very first, I asked her into the other room (I wanted to be sure she understood it all but not in front of the children) ... that was when my love returned for her. We embraced and she cried and and asked my forgiveness. I realized she already had it. And everyone should give God the glory for that. That wasn't humanly possible. Of course you would have to have followed the whole series to understand :):)
But ... Esther, it validates what you said. I'm not constantly thinking about it. It's lost it's power over me. But it's all part of who I am; incorporates all the lessons I've learned. The memory has lost the power of emotion because I've forgiven ... but it will always be a memory.
Thanks for bring that up. It needed to be clarified.
The main truth I would like to get across to everyone is this:
You cannot just stop resenting. That is why God said 'do something nice for your enemy.' He Himself will always do His part in response to your obedience. He will put joy in your heart. It may appear I was being noble; I wasn't. I was desperate for relief from a bitterness I couldn't take anymore. It was pure selfish desperation that made me step out and obey. The reward was so great I just couldn't stop :):)
The entire victory depends on HIM responding to YOUR action. And He will.
We're glad to have you back. I'm on everyday and still not nearly as responsive to people as I need and want to be.
Welcome back. And thanks for coming by.
One you try it and see how faithfully God rewards you, it actually becomes fun most of the time. There are exceptions :) ... but as you see, even those are worth going through :)
The first person was, my younger sister's boyfriend. (They are now married) But, at the time, she first told me about him, what she said, sent my senses on high alert and I told her to stay away from him.
It was all because she said, that he told her how to dress, who to be friends with, and so on. I told her that he was trying to control her, and could become abusive. But, she would not listen to me.
Well, a year or so passed, she got pregnant and married the guy. I was so frustrated when she would cry. When she told me how controlling and cruel he could be. And, I had to keep a happy face on, and try to find something to like about him. Mainly, because she always said that she loved him, and wouldn't leave.
After her second son was born, she actually left and came to my parents home.
But, he soon followed and begged for a second chance. He promised to get help for his behavior. His father was an abusive man, I learned. And, he needed to find the lord, and get therapy..
Well, time went on, he tried the counseling, and even went to church.
After many fits and starts of him not wanting to go to sessions or church..
Finally, one day, everything seemed to click for him.
I continued to be nice to him, even though, I didn't want to. I didn't want him around my sister, but, I continued to support her, no matter what.
And, finally, he put himself back together.
Now, today, I can say that he's truly a decent man.
And, that I can truly say, as a Christian, that I have love for him as a human being.
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Beauty in the eyes of the beholder,
Love in the hearts of man,
enemies wronged, failure of man,
forgiven, of course, by a bright woman,,,
Happy New Year to you too.
There is a really importan lesson we all have to learn. God gives each of us a circle of responsibility. And it is ours alone. No one else has the right to try to manipulate us withint that circle. We can act responsibly ... or we can choose to ruin our life. Only God is in that circle with us.
You honored your sister's circle. You told her the truth. And then allowed her to make her own decision even though you hated it. I am SO GLAD it eventually turned out like it did.
One thing for sure ... we see God was working His will in it all along.
Angela, I think you did exactly the right thing.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :)
My husband's boss. (He no longer works for the guy)
My hubby's boss was a jerk who often left him by himself, and told him he was in charge. But, when he got back, he always criticized him for things, he decided my hubby did wrong.
He accused him of breaking a machine that was over seven years old.
And, often yelled at him for no other reason, other than to call him lazy, or stupid.
He was also a racist, and would say awful things come Martin Luther King day.
And, when my hubby told me this, I was outraged.
But, of course, I wisely held my tongue. Because of course, my hubby needed a way to make a living and I didn't want to cost him his job.
To his boss's credit, he did give my hubby some stuff for free. He gave us a queen bed, that we sorely needed. He also paid him for holidays and also gave him a Christmas bonus.
So, those things were in place, to make me to be able to stomach the guy and see the good things in him. His boss, had a racist uncle who taught him everything he knows.
So, in that instance, I knew that I had to see, that forgiveness was in order, there.
Many years later, my hubby finally left this guy and got the job he has today. Mainly because this boss was only paying him once a month, to supposedly save money. But, he would buy a brand new truck for himself. So, I knew he was just basically, bilking my hubby out of money and keeping it for himself.
Well, that's my other story..
Thanks for the response to my other confession.
My daughter is doing the same. Her spouse has worked for years for a man that has a terrible anger problem. Lies; cheats his customers; has erratic behavior & demeans her husband. About the same situation as you.
She has to pray all the time to keep from getting bitter AND reason in her own mind like you are.
Here's one thing that makes it hard for spouses. You aren't in control. All you can do is stand on the sidelines and hurt for your spouse. That adds a different dimension of pain.
Spouse wants to stay because he is paid well. They repair commercial ovens like in the grocery stores and bakeries; I believe some restaurants. Spouse refuses to overcharge. This caused rages in his boss for a long long time. Spouse refused to replace what could be fixed. Would not pad the hours or overcharge for work. He is a strong Christian and feels God gave him this job in answer to prayer. He's probably worked there for 15 to 20 yrs.
He would have been fired but he was so good and so fast and so capable; and was actually requested by some to do the service calls ... that they couldn't afford to fire him.
Like you, daughter had to have an ongoing fight to keep a good attitude. It's really hard when it is day after day; month after month and year after year.
Here's one thing that is often hard to balance. You need to be there for your spouses to encourage them. On the other hand, & I'm saying this now for those who are reading comment & need the help ... there did come a time where daughter said "Please quit. I can't take it any more. I'd rather have less money."
Spouse said no, He was paid well and would rather stay. She finally said "Then you have to find a way to live with it and get on top of it. I can't take you coming home unhappy every night. I cannot carry it."
I think that needs to be weighed in with how a couple handles their problems. It doesn't mean she turned a cold ear to him. (& he knew that) It means it is harder on the spouse than it is the employee often. And ... it is true. If you cannot work there and find ways to enjoy your days then you need to quit.
They got a balance. She knows the employer really is mentally disturbed and can forgive him and let it roll off her back as long as her spouse does. If he doesn't she can't. That is the point where spouse needs to take action.
It sounds like you two were able to get through the rough times OK.
Were there times you wanted him to quit? Or was it not a daily problem?
I sure enjoyed rereading your piece today. We people from the 3 main beliefs have so much in common and so many differences. Gather has given us a chance to interact a little bit. I think most of us do it very gently :) It's nice to focus on each others humaness instead of just our differences. I don't have all the answers between us ... but I love moving back and forth through the barrier :).
I wish I could get on the ball that write some more poetry. That is so much fun but it has to just hit me. I can't seem to just choose to sit down and write any :)
Love you so !!
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And a wonderful New Year beginning !!!
You're right ... when God opens your eyes to the whole person instead of just the part you're mad at, everything changes :)
I like the way your write. It is unique. One thought flowing into the next. It's actually the way our mind really thinks. But also, I know that 'Oneness' is important to your life philosophy and I see that in all your writings. It's a very thought provoking way of thinking for me also. That's why I enjoy it so much.
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Of course we all have faults, part of them we don't know :), nor do I know what yours are ... but you have some very strong strenths. You already treat enemies with respect; give them a 2nd chance. That's a lot.
If you do go through some of these and need help coming up with plans to meet any particular enemy, please feel free to email me. A few others have. Or we can talk on line & it will help others with the same problem.
Thanks for coming by. Don't feel pressed on these Terry ... it is a lot of reading :)