by R o b i n ♥
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March 13, 2008

You asked about forgiveness?

December 15, 2008 04:04 PM EST
views: 171 | comments: 21

From an article I posted first HERE


Well I suppose if I am serious about forgiveness I better find out who it is that is unforgiving and or in need of forgiveness.

Yesterday Nathan wrote what can only be called a parody of Robin here in this group, after the initial shock had dissipated I asked the question "what is this for" and only then did it come into proper perspective.

When I ask, what is something for, I remember WHO I'm asking. Am I Robin, or Nathan or the Sleeping Son of God? If I am Robin then Nathan is the asshole who hurt me so I can't forgive him from that point of view.

If I am the Sleeping Son of God I get to see both Nathan and Robin as projections of my own singular mind, I see that Nathan is offering me a forgiveness opportunity that "I" projected into the dream to be offered as a chance to relieve myself of another layer of buried unconscious guilt.

If I want to utilize true forgiveness I am required to see who it is that is responsible for the error. Projections forgiving projections is all well and good but it has nothing to do with the process A Course in Miracles is attempting to address.

True and lasting forgiveness cannot occur until I see and accept my total responsibility not as the projection of a body called Robin but as the Sleeping Son of God, the one responsible for outfitting my Spirit brothers with projected forms.

The secret of Salvation dear brother, is not a two way street, I am doing this to MySelf!

Blessings

Robin

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Comments: 21

Tanya P. Dec 15, 2008, 4:25pm EST
Interestingly shared perspectives. Not sure what Nathan did that prompted the article. With this in mind (that I don't know), I think I would add that forgiveness is not necessary if you choose not to take offense, thus are not feeling a harm done, but simply moving away from a negative energy without taking it on as your own.
R o b i n ♥ Dec 15, 2008, 4:27pm EST
Yes Tanya...
Carla G. Dec 15, 2008, 4:58pm EST
Sounds like you "get it", Robin. Blessings ~ Carla
R o b i n ♥ Dec 15, 2008, 5:53pm EST
Nice to see your smiling face Carla...
Fran S. Dec 15, 2008, 6:14pm EST
interesting thought provoking not sure I can "compute" all this after working 9 hours but it sounds like forgiveness is the ONLY way to go in this life, otherwise we are all miserable - those who hurt and those who harbor
Ann Weaver Hart Dec 15, 2008, 6:56pm EST
So how do you remember to be the Sleeping Son of God? I keep forgetting.
Jan S. Dec 15, 2008, 7:02pm EST
Good to see you again, Robin. I see forgiveness as a gift we give ourselves. Holding a grudge is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die. Once we forgive, and it can be quite a process, we experience freedom and light.

I don't think forgiveness requires that we give the forgiven another chance to hurt us. Forgiveness needs to be tempered with common sense.
*Carol ~Bronx Southern Belle D. Dec 15, 2008, 7:08pm EST
I wish I were good enough to forgive my brother who stole my mother's home, and my inheritance. He is an Internet doctor of theology who uses it to steal from others. How do forgive that? I'm sure people better than me could, but I'm too weak to forgive him.
John Philipp Dec 15, 2008, 7:43pm EST
Good thinking, Robin.

Thanks.
Forgive ME, please, Robin ... for being so-long absent.

Thank you for the invite, sir.
Yvonne R. Dec 15, 2008, 8:01pm EST
Well, of course, forgive. It is a tall order, but the only one that brings freedom. Peace. Yvonne
R o b i n ♥ Dec 15, 2008, 9:22pm EST
Ann Weaver Hart: That's why the Course say that purification is necessary first... Or in other words, the Workbook Mind Training is necessary first...

As you live A Course in Miracles, "the memory of truth" and the illusion, come closer and closer together...
Georgiana S. Dec 15, 2008, 10:03pm EST
If we all swallow our pride and walk away from imagined, or slightly real, slights, then there is no need for apology.
Bill's Spirit Dec 16, 2008, 3:52pm EST
I just can't seem to forgive certain things; and it is a poison that eats at my happiness.

I'm hard stuck against the reality that forgiving someone does not change their thoughts attitudes and/or actions.

At some point, doesn't that other person hold some responsibility for their attitudes, actions and words? Should I always be forgiving them for their errant thoughtlessness and meanness?
Patti M. Dec 16, 2008, 4:52pm EST
Forgiveness is a gift we give to ourselves. It is not always easy but in most cases it is necessary to move on in life. If we are the childern of God we think we are, forgiveness is something we need to do. As with everything, it is a learned process.

Carol, your brother will reap what he sows. It will catch up to him at some point. I can see your struggle though. Bless you all. Great topic Robin.
Sujata (funnily 'Suji' ) S. Dec 17, 2008, 10:07am EST
Wow I love Patti speak to agree with !

Thanks to share this Robin aimed before Christmas

to clear mind clutter if applied by the practice!!!
René Allen Dec 18, 2008, 10:38am EST
Hi Robin ~ Thank you for sending the link to this Discussion. I hope you respond to what Bill asked above here in this Discussion . . .

"At some point, doesn't that other person hold some responsibility for their attitudes, actions and words? Should I always be forgiving them for their errant thoughtlessness and meanness?" ~ Bill's Spirit
Tracey W. Dec 20, 2008, 11:30am EST
I'm not sure I understand completely, but you have certainly given me something to contemplate. Merry Christmas Robin.
''The One & Only BERF" .. Dec 23, 2008, 2:17am EST
3D Merry Christmas Pictures, Images and Photos

..............AND A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!
Samuel W. Dec 23, 2008, 5:20am EST
If someone has taken something wrongfuly there are laws that sometimes bring justice. But if we can not find the strenght to forgive, then we allow this person who has done us wrong to continue to steal everyday one of our most valuble assets, our peace of mind and the ability to proceed with our life.
Jerry Kays Feb 27, 2009, 5:03pm EST
much wisdom.

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