Once again, another CRAP day at school
I normally have fun at Howard High School. It's the newest high school here in Macon and because of that, they don't have a senior class this year. They'll have one in 2009-10. Last Friday was not one of those fun days. In fact, I would have much rather gone through childbirth sans epidural. The students I had were rude, disruptive, disrepectful and not on task and I left their regular teacher a note. I pulled no punches whatsoever and if the ACLU wants to talk, BRING IT ON! This is what happens when you take God
out of the classroom and let the heathens take over. What I would give to have had one of them flogged in class to set an example. The letter reads like this... and no, at this point, I wasn't interested in protecting the innocent, so I named names.
Here's the letter unedited except for my BOE employee number.
14 November 2008
Dear Mr. Stembridge:
Despite the horrid weather, we managed to have class. First block was really chatty and loud, so you might want to talk to them about that. I asked them on several (key word here is SEVERAL) occasions to keep the noise down.
You have a new student in first block. She listed herself as new on the roll.
There is a group of people that sit near the closet that decided that they were going to talk and chit-chat and not get any work done. They finally got to work after some prodding on my part. Some of them actually did the worksheet, so feel free to reward them for their effort. There was a question about number five on the worksheet and some of them left it blank.
Mr. Vickers, who sits in the first desk near the door, talked and played all block and did not do any work until I got on his case. Methinks that he and Mr. Roberts need to be separated from each other. They tend to feed off each other, as if it the relationship was symbiotic. It's sort of like living with Siamese twins.
Second block was chatty as well and did not heed my requests to keep the noise down. Ms. Thomas and Mr. Taylor were playing around and bothering each other. I wound up moving them. At least that group was productive.
Third block was an adventure as well. I thought they had first lunch but they didn't. OOPS! I came back to the room as soon as someone let me know. They were chatty (really chatty!) and made a lot of noise. They were also disrespectful and smarting off when I asked to do or not do something. It was as if I was never in the room. One of them decided to do some art work on the roll, so I made them do it over. I let them know that this was not going to work. This was the worst of the worst. I wound up giving one of them detention. It was either that or let them completely take over.
One of your angels even thought it was funny to tamper with the glass of iced tea I had on my desk, so I poured it out. You have a couple of young men that think that this is a joke. Let them fail the course and have to take it over again. Out of the 22 that were in third block, there were a total of 16. Someone took the old roll off the desk and either took with them or threw it away. I am not going to worry about that. If they want to get into trouble, that's their choice and it's a BAD choice. They will have to live with that BAD decision.
As for the ones that left and never came back, I am with a GREAT deal of certainty sure they skipped out after lunch. I will let them get into trouble and be dealt with. They don't need to be here if they're not going to work. Sorry for my getting on my soapbox but that's how I see things from the educational point of view. If I even pulled a third of the stuff they pulled, I would more than likely wind up in a body bag. They have NO boundaries period. There is no regard for their peers or those that are in charge, they only care about themselves.
This was one of the worst (if NOT the WORST) classes I have ever had at Howard. There was no respect for those in authority. I would hate to see them get a job or try to get one. That's the bottom line. To be brutally honest, some of these kids would not survive at Mount de Sales or any other private school in Macon.
I actually feel sorry for those that actually want to get some work done. It's hurting them because they have to deal with this foolishness. I did all I could to NOT write some of them up. I think that another sub needs to come in with a hidden camera and film them, then let the parents see what really goes on. Some of them actually think that they are running the show. Some of them even went so far as to mock me when I asked them to not do something or be quiet. They don't need or deserve to be here and they are not going to take over. We won't let them, as Al Gore said. As my third grade teacher once told me, "I don't fight battles I know I'm going to win."
Sorry that you have to read this but sometimes one has to hear the truth... regardless of who is speaking it.
Thanks for letting me take your class today.
I don't let the inmates run the prison. They don't get it. In fact, I would give anything to be a fly on the wall when they have to explain to their parents why they failed math. I want to be there when they have to take the course over in either the Spring or Summer school. That would be a conversation that I would pay big bucks to see. I applaud those that come, ready to work, ready to follow the rules to the letter. Those are the ones that I welcome with open arms. The rest of you, STAY HOME and if you even think about transfering to Mount de Sales Academy, I will personally block your transfer. I know too many people over there, too and I will use EVERY connection I have over there to make it happen.
Here's the deal... it's a one-time offer. Take it. I am not Monty Hall, this is NOT Burger King, you are not going to get it your way. I didn't when I was your age. When an adult said no, we took that to be the gospel. Your days of getting away with whatever the hell you can are OVER! It's a shame we can't send your sorry butts to a gulag somewhere in the Soviet Union. Flogging you would be too kind and the ACLU would get involved.
They don't get it and when they don't get their diplomas, they damned sure better not come running to me. They had their chance and fumbled on the goal line. Either straighten up voluntarily or be locked up at YDC. The ball is now in your court.
That's me being on the soapbox. The parents (some of them) don't believe the teachers when they say their children are being a problem. Sorry to throw water on your dinner party but there's an elephant in the room. It's your child. The one you brought into this world. It's time you took charge of them by telling them that the adults are in charge. It's a hell of a lot better than being in a prison cell or the morgue. Is it time to take back our schools? Yes. If we have to make examples out of you, then so be it. Someone's going to be in charge. That someone's NOT you.


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I am having problems with my son.. but nothing i hope like youa re takling about here.
YOU ARE "DA MAN"
nuff said!
I subbed in the Cobb County Schools for a number of years and was also a supply teacher. The kids in some of the schools are just terrible. It's absolutely unbelievable to me. That is one of the reasons my son goes to a homeschool school. He had such a bad class (and teacher) his 5th gr. year...
The teaching profession will never, ever be one of the highest paying jobs.........it's sad, but true.
Better you than me my friend....I don't have the patience anymore.
Now, I want the smartest person in the class to come up and lead this class while I sit in the back and observe. Of course, several folks always volunteered to do everything - But, I have to tell you that I always arrived at my classes early and complimented many students as they walked in. Years later, I still have many who remember me (and believe me, I had several who did go on to graduate from Crossbar University).
Salud
During the testing this year, they passed out OJ to all the students first to see if that makes a difference in their grades. We have to wait a few months to see. My son said some kids actually behaved better after drinking it. I tried that a couple years ago at home and it helped. Kids need to get enough sleep too or they get sleep deprivation and act up. Having parents who are drunks and druggies or just not there for the kids makes a huge difference too. No guidance. No proper nutrition, etc.
I have a B.S. in Elementary Education and taught school for a couple of years many years ago. I remember the good kids and the troublemakers, too. I remember the parents that cared and took an active role in making sure their kids were there to learn and I remember the parents that didn't seem to care at all. Teaching is a hard job. . . full of more challenges than lots of people think about. Glad you're there to make a difference.
I always told my children that if they got in trouble in school, there would be trouble when they got home. I expected them to obey the rules and make an effort to do their work. Most of the time this worked.
Occasionally, one of my children would run into a bad teacher. One teacher waited until she couldn't stand the sight of my son before doing anything. Then she let him have it with both barrels. Why not take care of the little problems when they are still little? One teacher thought it would be a good idea to get into a power struggle with my 18-year-old daughter over wearing too much makeup on Halloween. What kind of idiot gets into a power struggle with an 18-year-old? Even I know better.
You have a right to have order in your classroom. I wonder why other teachers don't want order in theirs. The kids didn't act out of character. They might have been worse because you were a sub, but they were not doing anything they didn't know they could get away with.
Better luck next time.
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The sad thing is the parents of those disruptive students most likely treat authority the same way and might even laugh at what their kids are doing.
It's certainly not like when I was in school!
Where are the parents. How can they let the kids grow up with no respectful fear of authority; no standing in awe of age? I don't understand. Our very love of our children ought to demand discipling them.
I don't know what the future holds.
I'm sorry you and the other teachers have to put up with this. I would have to fight anger at the parents all day.
Kids in school should be more disciplined and parents should allow the teachers to do this. Heck, when I was in high school in the late 70's and early 80's if we misbehaved, we had to go to Coach Duke to get a paddling (and I am a girl) it didn't matter. You FEARED that paddle and didn't want to get one.
PARENTS REALLY NEED TO STOP PANDERING THE KIDS and let them be disciplined in some form at school and...on the other hand....
SCHOOLS ARE RIDICULOUS WITH SOME OF THEIR RULES they sometimes punish the wrong people and never give the kids a voice to speak up when the teacher is wrong.
It's not just the subs who have to endure the disrespect and chaos in the classrooms nowadays. I have a client who is teaching at a "good" "upscale" high school and has many of these "crap" days. And his salary is not enough to cover his bills. Yet some of these self-preoccupied and greedy CEO's make so-o-o-o much money. The world is not exactly fair, is it.
I guess you just have to pay your dues for awhile.
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She really isn't gifted, but because she behaved, I was able to get her into the gifted classes where she did great. It's awful that the kids who want to learn CAN'T due to chaos in the classroom. She learned much better in those classes because the teacher had time to TEACH.
I insisted my children behave in school. I'm sure I didn't hear about everything, but what I did hear about, they were severely punished for. I didn't tolerate rudeness. I also didn't expect my children to obey blindly, and because of that, they obeyed me.
I hope something changes soon, otherwise no one will be ready for work when they graduate. It's a darned shame. I think parents/children need to PAY for school. Let them get the $$ back at the end if they behave. :) It's not valued if it's free.
Very good article, and hopefully they can be worked with before it is too late.
That's why I quit. It was great for the first 10 years, but after that it just seemed like kids were getting their education by the measure of their audacity. Sorry you had to go through that.
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Good post, hang in there !!!
Do you mean that when they come to class and you're ready to start that the kids don't shut up and give you their undivided attention?
I graduated in '77 and call me ancient but if we would have pulled that kind of mess we would have been on perpetual detention, failed the class, sent to the principals office for disciplinary actions, or expelled or all of the above.
Good luck to you Kerrell. I am with you on your soapbox. Call it what you will but it sounds to me like these teens just have no respect for authority and that must be dealt with now rather than like you say in a body bag at the morgue.
Nowadays, the teachers call the parents and the parents go to school and threaten the teachers for correcting thier children.
I could never be a school teacher, I would be in jail within the first three hours and believe me I would go willingly.
My hats off to you,thanks for trying to shape our leaders/thugs/heathans of tomorrow!
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My mum caught my brother and me swearing once and we both got a real ear bashing..
We did manage to avoid the soap in the mouth treatment though so that was a relief.
I was 40 and he was 35 at the time!
Thanks for sharing...
The sad part is that most of these kids are so desperate for the attention that they don't get at home, they typrannize the rest of the kids. I would first say that many of them have a misplaced sense of entitlement - and will say things like "I'll get you fired", unthinkable in my era. Then you have the parents who are afraid that their kid won't 'love' them if they dare to demand the kids buck up or behave and function as required.
Substitutes, however, get the worst treatment by students - which seems to be tolerated by the principals and the regular teachers. If my students misbehaved with a sub, I would certainly insist they pay for it big time. The problem is less the students and more the adults, as we all know kids will try to get away with whatever they think they can. Oh, and so will most of their parents, who have totally abdicated their parental responsibility, expecting the schools to nto only educate but raise their children.
Sorry for the rant, but I was trying to be supportive.:)
Respect should be taught at home..as well as a few other basics..
I think the parents should be punished ..Make them accountable for their children's actions ..
Make them do a few detentions with their kids..!!
Or , clean up the school grounds together ..
I bet their kids will wise up real fast..!!
You are more than brave, you're a SAINT!
I had one little girl I kept after class. I told her (it was just me and her at that point) that she had to be quiet for 5 consecutive minutes before she could leave. In the end, after an extra 2 hours on my day (unpaid 2 hours) I had to let her go. Last bus was leaving. She simply couldn't do it. I wonder what her parents were like.
Great post.
Better pay for teachers is my solution. Get the deadwood out with a little competition.
I just commented about teachers on another post. Teachers are some of the most underpaid and under recognized people I know. I truly do not know how you even do your job. I certainly would not want to attempt it and am thankful there are people like you who DO want to teach.
I know it was a terrible day for you, but this entire thing had me rolling on the floor with laughter right from the title of your article. Sorry! : )
Sorry you'd such a bad day Kerrell but yes troublemakers should be flogged, good idea.
i agree. some parents are teaching there kids right before they go to school. some parents expect teachers to raise their kids. teachers aren't supposed to raise their kids and babysit. they are there to teach.
Hey there, well I don't think I could say anything more than what has already been said. I stopped by to thank you for commenting on my Patsy Cline post. I am planning on going back to substitute teaching this coming fall, just because I need a parttime job and can't find one elsewhere.........I don't look forward to it.