The London Sunday Times reported October 26 that senior Iraqi officials have indicated that the long debated U.S. - Iraq security agreement is "doomed to failure." When you stop and think about it for a minute, this is probably a good thing.
There is no getting around the fact that the United States will be in Iraq for many years to come. There may be a combat role, a training role, a support role, an advisory role, or some combination of missions undertaken by American troops. But in some capacity, U.S. soldiers will remain in Iraq for the foreseeable future.
Therefore, it makes sense to work out a deal that is mutually beneficial to both Washington and Baghdad. The United States is less than two weeks away from electing a new President, and the winner of the November 4 contest is less than three months from assuming his new role as commander in chief. It seems pointless to rush through a security agreement that has not been through the Congress and that will not be binding on the new chief executive.
While the Times says the deal's failure "...would severely undermine American policy," I disagree. It simply means that a new option is needed until Iraq and the United States can work out a long-term agreement after the new American president is sworn into office. The best option in the absence of a new security deal is probably an extension of the current United Nations mandate, which is currently set to expire at the end of this year.
Such an extension would probably be fairly easy to secure. The United States, if it sought the extension, would vote for it, as would Britain and France. China would likely go along with the status quo rather than see a potential breakdown in Iraq in the absence of a deal, and Russia would likely concur given the Russian aim of keeping America tied up in the Middle East so that the United States cannot interfere with Russia's ambitions in Central Asia.
The bottom line is that the current deal is not likely to go through. Iraqi politicians are facing an election of their own, and they will probably be reluctant to take a firm position on the American presence until their political futures are more or less determined. Therefore, the Bush administration should probably return to the United Nations for an extension of the current mandate that would allow both Iraq and the United States to continue work toward a long-term deal.


Comments: 56 ( 1 removed by Greg R. )
You may be 100% correct on this one but I think I concur with the idea that successful completion of this agreement is essential. If it is rejected, and if Obama is elected, it could free things up for Obama to remove the troops in such an abrupt fashion that it would be dangerous.
In fact, it could put him in a position that he would feel forced to do that. While if the agreement is completed, he will be reluctant to abrogate a completed deal.
I do believe that Obama, if elected, will surround himself with the best minds available as advisers and will rely on them for many of theses decisions, leading to different results than campaign rhetoric.
But, as I said, you may well be more correct on this than I.
I'm pretty sure that now the election is about locked, that Obama will be pretty hesitant to do anything abrupt in Iraq. Any chaage will be gradual because if it goes south now, its on his watch and the last thing a new administration wants is a self inflicted wound to deal with.
What is the likely sticking point is what I want to know. Moslem countries have had generous SOFAs with us before with little problem...
I hope the Iraqi's flip us off for trying. If they had any balls they would.
Obama '08.
McCain-Palin '08.
Only some backwoods hick like you would think thats "good news", while you try and blackmail them to do your bidding. What a great DEMOCRACY you have there, Nazi.
I noticed, you haven't won that war yet. You never will. "Mission Accomplished".
Laid waste to its infrastructure and population? Have you not seen the reports of Iraqi infrastructure decay under a quarter century of Saddam? The infrastructure was shot before we got there. And the population wasn't exactly having a field day, either. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands murdered under Saddam. I've seen the mass graves myself.
Funny how quickly you turn to hateful rhetoric. You know what Socrates said, "When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
Just like the McCain/Palin campaign.
McCain/Palin are running hard on the "you can't trust this guy because he is a socialist who pals around with terrorists" message. Hardly the stuff of substantive political discourse on the key issues facing this country.
And for the record, I'm not sure we can trust this guy.
1. I don't believe they are the central issues a majority of the electorate actually care about; and
2. The McCain/Palin emphasis on trying to make Obama out to actually be an Ayers, Wright and/or Rezko is desperate at best or just vile attack politics at worst... in an attempt to distract attention from their on lack of proposals on the real issues most voters are concerned with.
In both cases, it appears that their approach is not only not working... with some portions of the electorate, it's actually backfiring.
McCain has had the Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin vote sewn up since he picked Palin. I personally think it's been a huge mistake of his to keep playing to that crowd and not reach out more strongly to moderates and independents. Frankly, I think it's one of the main reasons he will lose this election.
Right now, anything. He doesn't come across as trustworthy to me. Individual perception. I could be wrong, but that's the perception I have.
The majority of Obama supporters. Not sure the same can be said of the majority of McCain supporters.
"2. The McCain/Palin emphasis on trying to make Obama out to actually be an Ayers, Wright and/or Rezko...."
I haven't gotten that impression at all. I take it as trying to get Obama to provide full disclosure, something he has been reluctant to do (e.g., a guy who lives in my neighborhood).
I'm talking about the overall electorate. The number one issue on their minds, as you well know, is the economy... which is followed by, in no particular order by me, healthcare, jobs, education and the war in Iraq.
My point is that Ayers, et al play well to the Republican base. They're not going anywhere. If McCain stands a snowball's chance in Hades on Tuesday, he'll need a heck of a lot more than just the base... and those folks aren't talking about Ayers, they're talking about their jobs, the economy, healthcare, education, the stock market, mortgages, etc.
IMO, McCain is making a critical mistake by harping on the "association" issue at the expense of the central themes of this election. I believe it will cost him big on Tuesday.
The number one thing on people's minds is the economy, and while you may not like it or agree with it, McCain has offered an economic plan. But there's nothing that says he has to have a singular focus.
For a lot of people, and you may or may not be one of them, character and judgement matter, and whom one associates with factors into both. Maybe he overplayed a bit, but I'm not sure. Personally, I don't think he hit the issue of Wright at all. Why he put it off limits is beyond me.
And McCain has healthcare and education proposals, as well as a plan for the housing "crisis" (I wouldn't even call it that; new and existing home sales are stronger than analysts expected). As I said about the economy, he has offered proposals on all of these topics that appeal to conservatives.
If that costs him, so be it. I would rather vote for conservative ideals than to try to appeal to moderates. Personal choice.
McCain's strategy is allowing Obama to control the conversation about the central themes of the election. I think it's a big mistake.
And could it be that the news cycles focus on the negative because most of the media is in the tank for Obama? Things that make you go Hmmmm.
Top stories
1. "McCain says Obama can’t keep nation safe"
2. "McCain presses LA Times to release videotape"
3. "Palin Links Obama to Khalidi, Calls on LA Times to Release Tape"
On Obama:
"Obama Has Fun With McCain Attacks"
RALEIGH - Barack Obama held a massive rally in downtown Raleigh, North Carolina, this afternoon where he continued his economic offensive - and why not? It’s been working for the Illinois senator, who is leading most polls.
While Obama has continued to portray John McCain as another, more extreme George Bush, John McCain and Sarah Palin have questioned the Democrat’s ties to an assortment of murky characters. So far, the GOP lines of attack have had little impact on voters, who say the economy is their biggest concern this election.
***
Guess what? They're right.
http://elections.foxnews.com/index.html
Can Obama keep the nation safe? I have my doubts, and I think it's a legitimate concern. Why won't the LA Times release a tape that is purported to show Obama in a negative light? Legitimate question. Should McCain not raise these concerns? Of course he should. But he's doing it as part of a stump speech that goes beyond just these couple of issues. And his ads are focused on taxes, the economy, and health care.
You can pick out stories about what he said at a rally, but unless you provide the full text, you're not giving all the information. And again, his ads, at least here in Virginia, don't mention any of these things.
Obama is in control of the larger narrative on a daily news baisis, because McCain has ceded that ground to him with his relentless attacks about Ayers, Khalidi, et al. That's what he leades with, and it's what gets the most coverage. It's a losing proposition... especially if he's only countering with advertising in battleground states. Obama can outspend him 3 or 4 to 1 in that department. McCain needs the news cycle.
By all accounts (including many republicans) he's run a pretty poor campaign.
And yes, Obama can outspend him. That's what happens when you break your word. Gets back to that whole trustworthiness argument.
McCain may need the news cycle, but he can't control it.
No disagreement on the running of his campaign (being poorly run, that is).
It's called PR, and he's letting Obama kill him in that department.
Of course the criminal bush would ignore their wishes as he has already a number of times.
War crimes tribunal after Jan.21?????
What about clean campaign?
New today????
Greg,
I've spent my entire professional life as first a journalist and then in PR. I can tell you from experience, categorically, your statement is not true.
The "lead" in McCain's narrative for this campaign is the "danger" of electing Obamba. Believe me, his advisors control that message. They know full well how to frame it, and it's a deliberate decision to lead with the attacks. Their choice is reflected in the news coverage of their campaing messages. If they wanted it to be otherwise, you can bet you last nickle they would frame it differently.
And to know where the focus is, you need only look at where the money is being spent. And here in Virginia, it's being spent on ads about health care, taxes, and the economy.
"No 'word' broken...."
You haven't been paying attention then.
"...Of course the criminal bush would ignore their wishes as he has already a number of times."
Really, when has the Iraqi government asked us to leave?
"Mcsame kept his word?"
Yes.
"What about clean campaign?"
The same question can be asked of Obama.
And what's the lead story for McCain in today's news cyle? Khalidi.
So much for not assuming the "danger" in electing Obama is his associations. I know you support him, and it's hard to say the guy you're rooting for is blowing it... but, he's blowing it with this strategy.
And again, you're focusing on a news cycle that McCain cannot control while ignoring that he's spending his money, his most precious resource, on issue ads, and you're ignoring that a reference to Ayers or Khalidi is only part of a larger speech.
You can continue to cherry pick, but you're not giving the whole story. And neither is the news cycle (which is not surprising; questionable associations are hotter stories; if McCain had anything substantive in the way of questionable associations, you can bet that Obama would be all over it).
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/mccain-slams-la-times-double-standard-withholding-obama-khalidi-tape/
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/29/campaign.wrap/index.html
Agreed.
"Either way, it's not looking good for him or the GOP in general."
Agreed.
And if by some miracle your grandpappy does win, I hope you reap every ounce of the darkness you and your kind have sown in the world. You will deserve every ounce of it.
Rot in hell scumbags, you've asked for it, I hope like hell you get it.
And do you expect anyone to take you seriously with such ridiculous comments? You should try a little education. Right now you just sound ignorant.
Yeah, you would know all about ignorant wouldn't ya?
Obama/Biden!
"Ignorant?"
Yes.
"Says the guy waging a fake war on a country that did nothing to him, his nation, or his people or their freedoms."
There's nothing fake about it. It's very much a real war.
"Yeah, you would know all about ignorant wouldn't ya?"
I see it on display here on Gather every day, especially from folks like you.
>>Agreed.<<
Our long national nightmare is finally over.
And a new national nightmare is just beginning.
At least let the man take office before you pass judgement on his presidency.
The real question is: what next for the Republican party? That's some serious soul-searching that needs to go on there. IMO, as the Dems run the risk of caving to the far-left, the Repubs run the risk of caving to the far-right, and that will further alienate the party from the mainstream.
I think they'd serve themselves well to get back to their Goldwater roots and pare back on the Evangelical stuff.
Barack Hussein Obama. 44th President of the United States. Just think Greg, with any luck you'll get to stop killing innocent Iraqi's soon.