Well now, do you think there might have been someone with just a morsel of integrity who might have pointed out that the comment was gauche, uncalled for, slimy, sleazy, despicable, base, trashy, cheap, malicious, stupid, or any number of other synonyms to define its hateful,vile and obtuse quality?
No, the only comment directly to that comment was an equally as stupid comment, "No way ____, are you serious?"
Yes, once again, even if I did like Obama, the very people who like him would make me run in the opposite direction, just not to be associated in any way. The only comment I can think of to top this would have been of a liberal member, since ousted from the site, who was happy to hear of Tony Snow's death, and said so in the most hateful and derisive way.
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You said this..."Yes, once again, even if I did like Obama, the very people who like him would make me run in the opposite direction, just not to be associated in any way." but I hope (I know) you realize that McCain's name could be substituted in your statement and the statement would hold the same degree of validity.
Hate....the people who promote hate and serve despicable rhetoric hail from both sides of the political arena. McCain's supports are not without a few vicious and hateful folks. DId you see the video of the supporter of McCain/Palin who brought a sock monkey as a representation of Senator Obama to a Palin rally?
I have said this before...the hateful speech one spews is more likely to define the low character of the hate monger who spewed the derogatory remark than to harm the person at which it is aimed.
I am not talking about comments where people can defend themselve either. Both comments that I alluded to in this article were made by liberals about people who were defenseless, one a mere baby and the other deceased. The fact that none of the liberals stand up to these comments makes me know how right I am about the vast majority of liberals on this site. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule, but I don't know of many here.
Thus spake the gonochoric Struthio camelus.
If not, then don't read THIS
Sue B.© The Sting IS Worse Than the Buzz, Oct 16, 2008, 4:59pm EDT
I don't know about that Sue - there are plenty of really awful things said from all sides. It's the individuals, not how they choose to vote.
Personally, I find it dangerous to attack an entire group for the actions of one.
I don't hang around with people like that. You people have no compunction as to whom you choose to befirend. It's no wonder your choice of candidate can have any number of less than wholesome affiliations without the batting of an eye. It's status quo for your kind.
I'm a flaming liberal. I use to say horrible things (particularly on The Chive posts) that I deleted later. We all need to stop and think before we comment.
I have only one quarrel with some liberals on Gather: We engage in liberal groupthink. Sometimes when we get together, group opinion is more important than the facts.. However, the conservatives on Gather are equally guilty of groupthink.
That said, both the comment and the commenter to which you refer are not extreme when measured against what's said in the political blogosphere, left and right alike. Neither are they extreme when measured against what used to be said here on The Chive posts.
I think that the comment you cite has little to do with the handicapped child. The objection is that his parents are exhibiting him and using him as a symbol of their sanctimony. That's how I read it, anyway.
Don't worry about the flag Sue. The Gather moderators said it was ok for someone to write her own flaming and hate article on me. No problems there with the moderators. So this is article would be a breeze compared to the one I'm talking about. No worries.
I hope I can recover from your disdain. I would have actually counted you as among the less civil, myself. Perhaps you are not a good judge.
Right back atcha.
I think it's horrible that Palin's child was born with a handicap. That child should be protected and cared for by his parents.
The fact that we are here arguing about a handicapped child, who has become a political symbol, suggests that shielding and protecting their child is not foremost in the Palins' minds.
"I am surprised that you don't understand the difference between writing something that someone can defend, and writing something that someone cannot defend.".
I don't see how the Palins' handicapped son needs to defend himself here. But I didn't come to argue with you, Sue. I respect you and consider you my friend.
It used to be that any politician who had a family could bring them on stage...to show their pride in their family, to show they did in fact have a family and had nothing to hide in their family....Wasn't it Ethel Kennedy who started the Special Olympics, because of someone in the Kennedy clan that had the same 'special' qualities that this baby has?
Incredibly, special children will not hold a grudge against those who attack them with vile speech, mocking speech or ridicule for something they cannot change.
Now that 'free speech' means that those without moral quality can write anything, say anything and never have to say they feel regret over their speech, no ground is too sacred to show disrespect. As BERF said, if they are so callous as to murder the innocent unborn by the millions, nothing is beneath them.
I stand behind your right to stand up for the little child. And to say what they said about Tony Snow....both are hateful.
Many of them say they are not the same as those who use their freedoms to say these things, but do not condemn what was said, but there is an old saying of 'birds of a feather....'
Hang in there.
Shirley, it's most certainly a catch 22, as you imply. They always want it both ways because it suits them to have it one way and another to attempt an illogical argument that will always make them seem justified in whatever their claims may be. I have traveled extensively and met many different types of people in my life, but have never met such a group of hate mongers in one place. As I have said, I see this from the liberal faction here regularly. Before that member was ousted from the site, he said he'd wished people to be dead and there was never anyone from the liberal faction here who ever stood up to him. That used to amaze me. Now I just see it for what it is. He had the gumption to say what they must feel, just as this commentator about the baby did. If they felt differently, don't you think they might have spoken for themselves? They never seem tongue tied to let us know what they consider hateful about comments made that are far less venomous that come from the non-liberal faction, do they? Oh, it's easy for some of them to agree now that what was said was mean and cruel, but there are people who commented here and saw that comment on that post who said nothing about it.
That's right, Paula, it didn't bother anyone. Isn't it odd that they flagged the quote and my exposé as hate speech and harassment though?
"I'd sure like to kick Barry in the nuts."
"She's an Acorn plant Carla you dumb bitch. Now don't address me again. Acknolwedging your existence even once in this post, is beneath me."
"http://www.rottenacorn.com/ The truth about Acorn for anyone who isn't a brainwashed moonbat fucktard and is actually interested in the truth about Eight Ball Barry and his ties to this voter fraud . . ."
I really love your dish it out but can't take attitude,so adolescent.
I am so glad I am not part of that group!
Dotani's statement? They have no scruples, no principles whatsoever, and then they do the 'how dare you dance' when you point out it out, as if that's supposed to vindicate them. It does in their minds, but to be very honest with you, Mark-John, if I were given the choice of whether I would have a mentally challenged child or have a child that would turn out like one of the adult liberals on this site, I'd choose the mentally challenged child hands down. That's not to say that some of these people aren't also mentally challenged, but some of them aren't and are just downright wicked.
I knew a Downes Syndrome boy many years ago. His mother was a friend of my mother's and they visited us and had many dinners with us. He was so much fun and so full of love. I enjoyed every visit, and he just loved me too. I'd play the piano for him and he loved to sing songs that were familiar to him. Great memories with a great kid!
Vickey, just be glad that you aren't associated with them. I've never met such a bunch of miscreants. I suppose I've met people now and again like them, but to have them concentrated in one place can be overwhelming sometimes. They travel in packs like wolves and they would be dangerous had they a human brain.
Rabid hyenas? OK, Berf, that does it. I'm writing an article to expose your civility to the enemy. How dare you be so nice?
Although, since seeing The Lion King, I can no longer look at Whoopy Goldberg or hear her voice without thinking of one........
I never saw the Lion King, but Sister Act nearly destroyed the fond memories I had of nuns. I almost was able to tolerate her in Ghost. I once saw her on The View. She's finally found her niche.
What an unforgiveable comment made about a Down Syndrome baby.! It's hard to figure what kind of person is that low, unfeeling and insensitive, with a glaring personal weakness.
That commentor provided a vital piece of information about himself, his character and his fundamental insecurity to stoop to that level. His own inner voice must have been telling him that he's not good enough, so he needs to try to make someone else look as bad as he feels about himself. Actually, that entire thread sounded full of anger and hostility, and in a word .... sick.
It's as if that group of commentors ... who seem to travel in herds ... to gang up on a thread ... were in a contest to see who could use the most deranged language, and impress all the other libs...so typical when a bunch of liberals get together here ... but ...Karma has a way of catching up.
I believe Obama would have been embarrassed !!
Sorry someone go you so upset Sue, it was a terrible thing to be said.
These are the same people who claim to be from the side of the aisle that embraces "compassion," "tolerance," "love," and "enlightenment" ...but in Truth, there never before has walked the earth, a group that has been consistently more wrong, more hateful, more intolerant, more IGNORANT, and more grotesquely "ugly" than those who should, by rights, have remained hidden away slump-shouldered, in the shadows.
They bemoan our "same brand" of commentary not even realizing that one can speak with fortitude, and even sarcasm, while remaining dignified and human. Every single "policy" they support: economic, social, defense, etc., has been a PROVEN failure. They have no ground on which to stand, or with which to justify their platforms...the Left has but ONE piece of ammunition left: character assassination. To those who doubt this -- just watch -- you will see.
Liz, in an ideal world, we all could love one another. I wish it could be so. But as Sue said, some people do not have love to give. My Father taught me that no matter how good or kind I was, there were a hundred behind me who will prey upon that kindness, mistaking it for stupidity. To be kind without a balance suspicion and ire, leaves one incapable of standing up for themselves, and for what is Right. My Father taught me to fight when necessary, because sadly, there are many in this world who do not think and act, as we do.
Pray that my Barack heals them. Hugs.
I LOVED The Lion King........I just can't stand "Da Whoop"............
I know Lion King is a wonderful movie, but THAT ONE that I listed above is much too graphic for kids.