
Although FOX news declared McCain the winner of the debate, they were the only major outlet to do so. The CBS poll showed 53% of undecided voters giving Obama the win and just 22% naming McCain the winner. The CNN/Opinion Research poll reported 58% of debate watchers declaring Obama the winner and 31% saying McCain won. But while Obama was the clear winner, many are saying that McCain gave a strong, and perhaps his strongest, debate performance of this election season.
MSNBC counted 21 attacks made by Senator McCain which is sure to rally his base, but Independents are more likely to favor Obama's performance, during which he only went on the offense seven times. So just what did the candidates have to say tonight, and perhaps more important, how did they say it?
Moderator Bob Schieffer of PBS opened the debate with each candidate's economic proposal, McCain's including tax cuts on capital gains and write-offs for stock losses, Obama's including middle- and lower-income tax cuts, tax breaks that create jobs andnew spending for public works projects that create more jobs.
McCain laid total blame for the current economic crisis on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Obama laid out a strategic four-step plan to fix the economy which he noted was fundamentally weak even before the current crisis.
Schieffer asked which programs the candidates would consider trimming, postponing or eliminating. Again, Obama had specific plans: structure the bailout properly, reinstitute a pay-as-you-go program matching every spent dollar with a cut one, going through the budget line by line eliminating programs that don't work and making ones that do work better and more efficiently, and insisting that corporations, government and individuals stop living beyond their means.
McCain first said, simply, "Homeownership." He also said he would institute a total spending freeze and take a "scalpel" to the budget. He then resorted to blame (again), attacking Obama for earmarks. Obama explained that earmarks account for only one-half of one percent of the federal budget, and that Bush administration policies had inherited a surplus yet will leave office with a $5 trillion national debt. Obama reminded viewers that McCain supported four of Bush's five proposed budgets and said "pursuing these failed policies won't work."
McCain shot back with appeared to be a prepared one-liner: "I'm not Bush and if you wanted to run against him you should've run four years ago." He then said, "We can take a hatchet to this budget." This doesn't quite gel with what he said later in the debate about increasing research for special needs (like Downs Syndrome with which Palin's fifth child was born as well as autism). It also contradicts his plan to build 45 nuclear plants during his first year in office (which he shared later in the evening).
When McCain attacked Obama for not standing up to party leaders, Obama cited several issues on which he had, in fact, went against party leaders as well as trial lawyers, normally a Democratic stronghold, including tort reform, clean coal mining, teacher pay for performance and charter schools.
Schieffer brought up the negativity of both campaigns, but a recent poll showed that two-thirds of the American people believe that McCain's campaign is too negative compared with only one-third who believe the same of Obama's campaign. When taken to task for supporters who have called out epithets such as "kill him" and "terrorist" at McCain or Palin rallies, McCain claimed he'd repudiated 100% of all negative things said about Obama and then complained that Obama hadn't repudiated comments John Lewis made about McCain and Palin. Obama said a statement was put out by his campaign regarding Lewis the very next day after Lewis' remarks, and that Lewis himself had said he'd gone too far.
McCain said he was "very proud of the people who attend our rallies" and that "they are patriotic." (Incidentally, Mrs. Palin has yet to address the dangerous remarks made about Senator Obama at her rallies.)
At some point, McCain brought up Obama's "association" with William Ayers as well as allegations about ACORN. Obama was eloquent in putting these matters to rest. He was forthright about the exact nature of his relationship (or, more specifically, his lack of one) with Ayers. He also took the time to explain that ACORN is a company that hires people to register voters and pays them according to how many registrations they bring in at the end of the day. What has been happening at ACORN with regard to phony registrants is a matter of employees are likely making up the phony registrations in order to increase their very limited wages. If the registrations are made-up names, it seems implausible that any fraudulent votes would be cast as these people obviously don't even exist.
Obama hit a high note when he offered up the names of the people with whom he actually does associate: Warren Buffett and Paul Voker regarding the economy, and Joe Biden, Dick Lugar and Gen. Jim Jones former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO with regard to foreign policy. In conclusion, Obama said, "Those are the people, Democrats and Republicans, who have shaped my ideas and who will be surrounding me in the White House. And I think the fact that this has become such an important part of your campaign, Sen. McCain, says more about your campaign than it says about me."
When Schieffer brought up running mates, McCain said Palin was "a role model to women, a reformer, understood special needs like autism" and offered a list of platitudes about her understanding special needs families better than "anyone in the country." He said that Biden is qualified but he's been wrong on foreign policy. McCain called Biden's proposal to break up Iraq into three factions a "cockamamie" idea.
Regarding Palin, Obama said she was "a capable politician who has excited the base in the Republican party." He commended her desire to help special needs like autism, but said doing so would require funding which would be difficult to obtain under McCain's proposed spending freeze.
Obama said Biden is "one of the finest public servants in our country" and has the best foreign policy credentials of anybody. Furthermore, he's never forgotten where he came from and has always fought for the "little guy." He said Biden shares his core values and sense of where the country has to go and that they both agree "we need to reprioritize, invest in the American people, give tax cuts to small businesses and to individuals who are struggling, not corporations, and to finally get serious about energy independence."
The candidates also engaged in a Roe v. Wade battle of sorts in connection with possible Supreme Court appointments, McCain trying not to say outright that he would do what he could to overturn it. He also tried to say that Obama favored the withholding of lifesaving treatment for infants, referring to a bill Obama had voted against when he was in the Illinois legislature.
Obama eloquently set the record straight and said was, of course, in favor of lifesaving treatment for infants. The bill McCain referred to was, in fact, one that would have undermined Roe v. Wade and that the lifesaving treatment was already state law. The Illiinois Medical Society and the Organization of Doctors both voted against the bill in question and the Hippocratic Oath directly opposes withholding lifesaving treatment. The purpose of the bill was clearly to strip away a woman's right to choose dressed up with the unnecessary language about withholding lifesaving treatment for infants.
The discussion turned to education and vouchers with McCain remaining combative and Obama continuing to calmly and specifically explain his views. McCain's base will undoubtedly give him an "A" for his aggressiveness, which is what they've been asking for all along. He repeated some version of the old GOP "tax and spend" line throughout the night which, to attentive voters, is little more than a mantra from the past - especially when offset by Obama's pay-as-you-go, job creation and economic stimulus plans. However, the Republican base was likely somewhat energized given that this last debate performance by McCain was probably his best.
McCain tried to be tough and offensive, but where he did best was in stating his own ideas - when he was able to articulate them cogently. His "attack" moments aren't likely to sit well with independent voters looking for solutions and leadership, which is exactly what Obama conveyed as he consistently took the high road and laid out specifics about his plans and favored policies.
For a full transcript, visit CNN.com.
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Retired from a career in law and banking, Diana Raabe is a freelance writer/editor whose work has been featured on Gather.com for over three years. A member of The Loft Literary Center and the National Book Critics Circle, she blogs at The Raabe Review and, occasionally, Minnesota Campaign Report.


Comments: 51
MSNBC is now with 84.3 Obama. 140,000 votes.
Please offer your thoughts on the debate.
If you hear of, have any voting irregularities, CNN wants to KNOW and has committed to get right on it. I'll betcha they shall. Pass the word!
McCain while swinging his hatchet wants the American people to bleed even more, the audacity of this man, what a loser!
McCain's body language was strained. In the second debate, he roamed about the stage set. Last night he couldn't sit still, his facial expressions were childish. He creates a barrier around himself in these settings, making himself unapproachable and unreceptive ~ which I don't think is really his nature. It was obvious he was uncomfortable.
It is difficult to give NcCain much creedence on education as he repeatedly lampooned "eloquence" as a character flaw.
And the winner was............. the PHILLIES in five!
I maintain that Tweety Bird and Mickey Mouse are more qualified to run this country than McCain or Obama.
Mooch
My boyfriend was happy about the Phillies, too. ;-)
Americans should be angry and deserve a leader who is equally angry.
Women "health" is a myth.
Sarah Palin would be a great President to lead us out of this financial mess; don't you even think about interviewing her on the subject.
McCain spoke before an ACORN conference in 2006 and praised their work, yet condemned Obama for consorting with them.
McCain's behavior was bizarre - clearly he lost the dabate - while Obama looked presidential. I would like to be represented by someone way smarter then I am. That's not McCain. Sadly, the election is already bought and paid for - with McCain winning by 51% - welcome to the electronic world of vote rigging.
The point that stood out the most for me when McCain demanded repudations from Obama over a comment a democratic congressman said regarding McCain's negative campaign and how his supporters have rallied in ways that are similar to the times of segregation.
The man has nerve! He has been spreading lie after lie about Senator Obama that has clearly been debunked over and over again and he demand repudations???? My response would have been fine when I get mine.
Having said that, it's not over and anything can happen in 19 days. After last night, Obama supporters run the risk of becoming too complacent and McCain supporters learned a lesson about negative campaigning.
Autism is currently a hotter topic than Down syndrome. I don't think McCain was confused; I think it was a case of trying to soak maximum benefit. I resent his making me laugh as hard as I did when I pictured all those precious little autistic children sitting through his Town Hall meetings.
Like Jennifer, I was infuriated by the nerve of McCain to feign sadness over being "attacked" by Obama's necessary "negative" ads to correct the misinformation McCain has put out, or to defend himself from the completely irresponsible and untrue attack ads McCain has put out. Demanding repudiations from Obama for what others have said about him was just - well, another example of how pathetically void of ethics or humanity John McCain is.
Significant memories:
*When McCain choked up while trying to sell Palin ("She is a breash of freath air.")
*When McCain finally admitted that he'll tax the infamous $5,000 health insurance break that he expects Americans to use to purchase $12,000 insurance plans, and then said that his $5,000 plan would cover unless people want a "gold-plated Cadillac" plan that covers transplants. Who are those beggars to think they deserve more than a flu shot at the clinic?
I don't agree that McCain is a fine man with good qualities. I'm sure he has a redeeming quality or two buried in there somewhere, but the negatives far outweigh the positives and he is apparently going in the wrong direction. That's not a good sign at his age.
Also, notice that McCain thinks anyone can be a teacher - soldiers returning from war should not have to take courses - just be teachers.
How strange. A cowardly wingnut. So very unique.
I was unable to watch the festivities last night, as I had a prior committment, but from what I later heard, Obama once again cleaned the angry, old, feeble man's clock. No wonder the wingnuts are too terrified to talk.
But watching McCain try and make the argument why Palin would be more qualified than Biden to be president was pure gold. I think I actually saw his nose grow. And I'm sure he was majorly choking on each and every word.
Obama 3... McCain 0
:O)
was John McCains look of "what am I saying" when holding Sarah
Palin up for consideration as President. She is so NOT qualified for
anything, and her blistering lies as a campaign strategy makes me
want to puke.
That is hardly cockamamie, and it is in fact what has happened in Iraq. See the movie "No End In Sight" at the end where show the neighbohood maps of Bagdhad and what it has become.
Not only that but Biden got a large amount of bipartisan support.
The surge which was the alternative was a hardening of garrisons and putting more boots on the ground temporality to help the Iraqis. It is working in the limited sense of what it was supposed to do was temporary.
Biden's plan would have let the Iraqis start to do the same.
McCain was being really disingenuous when he attacked Biden, but I am
sure McCain was angry about the smacks he has taken in the media from
jumpin' Joe.
John McCain was stronger than in previous debates. This morning's AP results showed McCain as the winner.
Jan,
What else could Obama had said about Ayers? He told the complete truth about what is really a non-event that has nothing to do with the issues. The same is true with the Rezko non-issue. The citizenship and birth certificate NON-issue had been answered 1000 times over. Bu Obama, by his campaign people, by his web-site, in just about every media outlet and also by a great number of people here on Gather. You say that you think he lies so much yet here he is telling the truth and you say "you weren't satisfied" with his explanations. What did you want him to do MAKE UP a better story instead of telling the truth.
You know how they do fact and lie checks after every debate? Well in all three of them where it comes to the number of lies by either person, all of the agencies that did these fact check/ lie detector missions said that McCain clearly distorted the truth on more issues.
The next president will have to be on the ball and pay clear attention to the changed dynamics we are living in.