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by Lori F.
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December 12, 2006

The Presidential Debate

September 26, 2008 08:58 PM EDT
views: 256 | rating: 10/10 (11 votes) | comments: 326

We are about 5 minutes away from the Presidential debates.

What are you looking for your candidate to say?

If undecided what would it take to decide?

And if you are have decided on a candidate is there something that one could say to change your mind?

Do you think that this will be beneficial or just more political showmanship?

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Comments: 326

N. K.* . Sep 26, 2008, 9:00pm EDT
Is it wrong for me to be hoping that my guy (Obama) doesn't screw up?
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EM JAY (Gather Director of Chaos & Uprisings) W. Sep 26, 2008, 9:00pm EDT
I'm looking for McCain to totally lose his sh*t and call Obama the N-word.
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Janna R. Sep 26, 2008, 9:05pm EDT
I'm playing the McCain drinking game.
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Rob Appell Sep 26, 2008, 9:07pm EDT
My candidate isn't even involved. Why just the two top schmucks and not all running for president? Are the Republicans and Democrats afraid the lesser party candidates might take some votes away from the bull they're dishing out?
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:14pm EDT
Nick nope I am hoping the same thing.

MJW funny my hubby said the same thing.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:14pm EDT
Obama laid out a plan, McCain gave more rhetoric. Obama laid out facts, McCain told anecdotes.

Obama needs to be a little more fluid in his speech patterns during these structured responses; McCain seems to be breathless (with the concerns about his health, that's worrying).
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:15pm EDT
Janna what is the McCain drinking game?

Rob yep the 2 party system doesnt work very well.

Rick I agree.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:15pm EDT
Linda I noticed McCain isnt looking or sounding healthy.
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Janna R. Sep 26, 2008, 9:17pm EDT
McCain Drinking Game

McCain lies- 1 drink
McCain lies blatantly- 1 drink
McCain says “My friends”- 1 drink
McCain says “My friends” and includes the weird and awkward forced smile that screams CHILD TOUCHER- 1 drink
McCain says Obama is out touch – one sip
McCain says “I put country first”—two sips
McCain says Obama will raise taxes for Middle class – 2 shots
Any mention of POW, Viet Nam, service to country- 1 drink
“Ready on Day One”- One drink
Blatant pandering over Israel/Georgia/wherever- 1 drink
Discussing the surge- 1 drink
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:20pm EDT
I'm thinking Obama is stuttering/sputtering (DANG) and McCain is talking catty like Palin.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:20pm EDT
So what you are saying Janna is we are 20 minutes into the debate and you are dead drunk: )
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:21pm EDT
Ellie I noticed that too.
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:21pm EDT
Lori...running is stressful...maybe Palin will become runner #1 before long...not that I'm hoping for him to die or her to be Prez
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:22pm EDT
I was very encouraged to see that today two conservative columnists came out against the Republican ticket.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:22pm EDT
Ellie I hear you...I want Obama to say something about Palins pork barrel spending. Now I want him to say McCains definition of rich at $5 million.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:23pm EDT
Me too Ellie.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:24pm EDT
Proud of Obamas dig on healthcare and very little stuttering.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:24pm EDT
BTW McCains tie is ugly...who dresses that man?
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:28pm EDT
Yes, I agree...Obama is warming up and getting into it. I'll have to put my distance glasses on to see the tie...but then I'll have to see his tight-jawed face.
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:29pm EDT
You're right, Lori...that tie is ugly...it's almost bad for the eyes without my distance glasses on...someone may have a seizure if they stare at it.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:30pm EDT
Ya McCain is better blurry.

Obama is stuttering less.
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:31pm EDT
Mc just said he's been involved for many, many years stopping these bad programs that led us here...so does that mean he's not effective?
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:31pm EDT
Ellie did you notice that they both tried to talk at once and Obama got the word.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:32pm EDT
Either that or just old.
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:33pm EDT
Yes...and Mc keeps trying to interrupt...noticed that earlier.
YOU KNOW...I hate that I am actually listening to this! I hate this crap, but this election scares me...and it did before all the ugly economic crap came out. There's more to this...
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:35pm EDT
OMG...nuclear power...I'm willing to ship the left-behind radioactive stuff still up here from Hanford de-comissioning. That cost us HUGE $$.
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:35pm EDT
I'm eating a tiny butterfingers everytime McCain says fundamentals. 2 when he says that obama asked for 932 million in earmarks.

I'm ready to puke.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:35pm EDT
NO NUKES.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:36pm EDT
sharon dang thats a lot of butterfingers.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:37pm EDT
I cannot imagine Sarah Palin having to do this with Joe Biden. He is going to EAT HER LUNCH. I can't wait. Does anyone have an address where I can send him some gourmet salt? Might as well taste good going down.

Obama went back to stuttering for awhile, now he's smoothing out again. McCain is starting to look a littel red in the face now. Troubling. And his breathing seems a little choppy to me.
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:37pm EDT
He's saying he's saying that he wants to take of the vets.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:38pm EDT
Notice that McCain doesnt want to cut any spending to military but doesnt say anything when it comes to education.

I guess war is more important than education to McCain.
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:38pm EDT
Obama just nailed him.

I am not Ms. COngeniality.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:39pm EDT
What is the Miss Congeniality thing McCain keeps saying? Kind of grating on my nerves.

McCain said Maverick...blah.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:39pm EDT
Yep I got that too Sharon.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:39pm EDT
Here we go...Obama taking McCain to task.

What do you do when McCain says "I'm not Miss Congeniality"? OOOOHHH>...McCain just referenced his partner, the good maverick! So he's playing on her beauty pageant experience? How SEXIST is THAT?
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:40pm EDT
Now he's talking about how he wantd to send in more troops and now we are winning.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:40pm EDT
McCain=Education bad

More troops longer war in Iraq=good.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:41pm EDT
Petraeus isn't in charge of the troops anywhere--he left last week. Doesn't McCain read his briefings?
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:41pm EDT
Obama is talking about opposing the war. He mentioned bin laden.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:42pm EDT
Did he say Petraeus Linda...wow big mistake.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:42pm EDT
I have to go get something to drink. Anyone want some brandy? Or a beer, while I'm up?
I think I have a couple of Grolsch in the fridge...
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:45pm EDT
Obama is running rings around him.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:45pm EDT
Obama spanked him on the war...started in 2007....
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:45pm EDT
Linda I'll take a beer..thanks.
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:46pm EDT
If I hear Miss Congeniality again, I'm gonna be sick!
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:46pm EDT
McCain doesnt have enough gusto to even be heard over Obama.

Obama comands respect.
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:46pm EDT
Hi all!
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:47pm EDT
Oh my god he has said Gen Patreus for 300th time.

Now he's talking about a ceremony.

Obabma doesn't knew the difference between a tactic and strategy, he was going to explain it to Obama.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:47pm EDT
McCain is talking about the same strategy we tried in Nam and it didnt work then...wow
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:47pm EDT
McCain is going to tell another anecdote (yep, Iraqi Freedom story).

He smirks and tells a story. Obama stays controlled but the passion is evident.

Here it comes...
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:47pm EDT
Hey Lisa.
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:48pm EDT
Obama - is killing him now.

Go Barack, Go Barack.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:48pm EDT
Lori, you want that in a glass or the bottle?
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:48pm EDT
McCain wants to fight Iraq war like we did in Vietnam. Guy needs to exhale.
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N. K.* . Sep 26, 2008, 9:48pm EDT
McCain looks like he's either just fouled himself or has magically transported himself to his happy place.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:49pm EDT
Bottle is fine Linda I'm not fancy.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:49pm EDT
Nick maybe he took his meds first.
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:49pm EDT
LMAO nk!
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:49pm EDT
Obama just used the present general's name; McCain is STILL TALKING ABOUT PETRAEUS.
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
Patreaus, Patreaus.
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N. K.* . Sep 26, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
That smug look is going to make me crazy. Ugh.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
[pop] Here you go, Lori.

glug. haaaa......
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
Is Janna tanked yet?
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
Again back to the Nam strategy. This guy is just too old and stuck back in the day to be president in 2009.
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
I could use some red wine...
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:51pm EDT
I can't keep eating this shit, I'm going to throw dishtowels at the tv.
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:51pm EDT
me too Ellie!
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:51pm EDT
Hey Sharon, did I spell it wrong?

Wanna Grolsch?
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:51pm EDT
sharon based on the rules of the game Janna was drunk about 10 minutes into the debate.

Thanks Linda....cheers all.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
Sorry, Ellie, be right back.

Bollinger do?
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Janna R. Sep 26, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
I am getting buzzed.

I hate McCain's Hypno-Tie™.

WHERE IS MCCAIN'S FLAG PIN!?
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
I'm agreeing with this current Obama thing...but it is the war thing...Mc will get pissed and maybe he'll come over and slap him...or do what lori's husband and someone else said...let the N-word fly.
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Dannielle S. Sep 26, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
Janna -- are you drunk yet?
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
No thanks Linda - I'm an alchoholic I have stick to candy and dishtowels.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:53pm EDT
OOhhhhh.....McCain admitted a mistake! Write this down--it's history!
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:53pm EDT
Janna...are the lines in the tie moving for you, too?
And I've only had one beer...and NO Butterfingers.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:53pm EDT
Janna good point...where is his flag pin.
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:54pm EDT
Sure we will work with the Pakistan government...Americans are SO popular there. Dream on.
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:54pm EDT
I noticed that too Lori
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:55pm EDT
McCain doesn't have the pin in.

What the fuck is McCain talking about.

No wonder he thinks Palin know what she's doing. He just said they all intermarried in Pakistan.
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:55pm EDT
nice face mccain
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Lori F. Sep 26, 2008, 9:55pm EDT
BRB I gotta go smoke.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:55pm EDT
Well, I try to oblige. Would some organic chocolate 72% cacao with cocoa nibs suit you?

DID MCCAIN JUST SAY THAT "NOW THAT PETRAEUS IS IN A NEW POSTION OF COMMAND?"
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:56pm EDT
Okay...either I'm on tape delay on the West Coast...or you guys are psychic...because you are talking about things that haven't happened yet for me. He just bragged about working with Pakistan.
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Janna R. Sep 26, 2008, 9:56pm EDT
We are not following the rules of the game. We are mostly taking sips for "my friends" and "my war record" and creepy looks.
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Kathy D. Sep 26, 2008, 9:56pm EDT
Hubby was just asking where the flag pin was. I thought Republicans were all about their little symbols.
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:56pm EDT
You never ever wear stripes on camera.

Where is his dresser?
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:57pm EDT
Yes, Linda...he did. I was about to go google to see what's going on....
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N. K.* . Sep 26, 2008, 9:57pm EDT
Jebus, what's with that look? I swear he looks like he's in the middle of a Ischemic Cardiovascular Incident. Something is going on in his head. I suspect if you put your ear up next to his head you would either hear a rousing Sousa march or perhaps a nifty calliope. Wow.
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Kathy D. Sep 26, 2008, 9:57pm EDT
I thought stripes made you look taller and thinner
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Kathy D. Sep 26, 2008, 9:58pm EDT
Oy, Ronald Reagan....
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:58pm EDT
That would be marvelous Linda.

Will someone call an ambulance for me - I think I'm going to go into a diabetic coma.

Now he's talking about Reagan '82.
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Linda B. Sep 26, 2008, 9:58pm EDT
Obama is nailing the Pakistan issue. My sister and brother-in-law are very well informed on the politics of the Middle East, and he is dead on. (McCain is telling another anecdote).
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Kathy D. Sep 26, 2008, 9:58pm EDT
McCain has a record...
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sharon SugarMomma is a wise woman, Sep 26, 2008, 9:59pm EDT
That's the theory Kathy but they move on a camera.

Why does he repeat the beginnings each of his paragraghs over and over.
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Kathy D. Sep 26, 2008, 9:59pm EDT
I miss Tim Russert
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Lisa C. Sep 26, 2008, 9:59pm EDT
WTF is he telling stories for?????
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Ellie !. Sep 26, 2008, 9:59pm EDT
I've heard this dead soldier story before....
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N. K.* . Sep 26, 2008, 10:00pm EDT
It's funny - I'm listening to the debate on BBC Radio-1 (no TV in the office) and they are clearly in favor of Obama. It's pretty cool to hear this through a foreign service.
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