There has finally been a shift in the electoral college map in the past week.Mccain is in the lead now with 227 to Obamas 207 according to real clear politics.Also in the 11 polls posted Mccain is in the lead in 7 and tied with Obama in 2.
Since the convention Mccain has had an 18 point jump to a one point lead on Obama in rassmussens national telephone survey asking voters who they think will win.35% say Mccain,while 34% say Obama.While not a very big lead it is a big difference from last month when 46% said Obama and 28% said Mccain.
Also according to rassmussen,when voters were asked if they thought the election was exciting,53% of Mccain supporters said yes while only 38% of Obama supporters said yes.Last month only 20% of Mccain supporters said yes.
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Neither one has a good platform to address the needs of this nation, and are very close to eachother when talking. Obama has only vaguely covered whatg he wants to do, while McCain has gone into more detail, which is likely the main reason that he is higher in the polls.
I would love to see what would happen if Barr had more access to the media and the debates, because he would very likely put both of these two clowns under. As Barr actually has a solid platform, even though I am not in agreence with all of it, most of what I have read is what we need to get this country back up. He is a hell of a lot closer than Obama and McCain.
My usual tie-breaker, that being who is the least religious, is now also tied. That's not good.
Without Palin, there would not be excitement. Without McCain, there would be no reason to vote. A conservative would be 30 points down by now. Hillary would be up by 10.
It is sound, right? I mean, McCain thinks so, and that makes it fact, right?
Right? Please, tell me it is sound.......
Fortune: Do you believe the U.S. economy today is fundamentally sound?
McCain: I think the fundamentals of the U.S. economy are very strong. We're still the most innovative, the greatest exporter, the greatest importer, the greatest producer, and by any measurement. And I believe the fundamentals are sound. But that in no way diminishes the severity of the immediate challenge to our economy and millions of Americans.
In which case, why are we voting on these "used car salesmen" for Congress. They are experts on nothing, and they spend their time selling each other ideas with the odometer set back to zero.
And Palin is all sizzle and no substance. People will grow tired of seeing pictures of her shooting wolves from planes and sitting astride a Harley. The truth about her ethical misconduct will come to light and people will begin to see that she is really not what she has been portrayed as being.
Numerous stories exist of telephone polls wrongly predicting the winner. Also, the questions asked in a poll and how they are asked can be deceptive.
The bump is beginning to subside.
Obama raised an unprecedented $66 million in financing, a feat never before done in private financing in recent. weeks.
Yes, the truth about Palin is beginning to surface.
Btw, Patti, how do you feel about Palin forcing rape victims to pay for their own medical exams? As an alleged woman yourself, does it make you feel comfortable knowing that a McCain/Palin white house could very well put YOU yourself in the position of having to pay for your own medical exam, if YOU were, God forbid, to find yourself a rape victim one day? Do you personally feel that a woman who's been brutally assaulted and raped should have to pay for her own medical forensics exam and tests, in order to get criminal action taken against her assailant? Both Palin and McCain think she should. I wonder how Sarah would feel if it were herself or her own daughter that faced this horrific scene?
I think it's that big poll in November that matters most, but this is exciting news. On a local level, I'm seeing a lot more McCain/Palin supporters and the Republican office here has to keep yard signs/bumper stickers on reorder. We have to wait until tomorrow to get ours.
The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral vote -- that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).
Because of state-by-state enacted rules for winner-take-all awarding of their electoral votes, recent candidates with limited funds have concentrated their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. In 2004 two-thirds of the visits and money were focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money went to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people have been merely spectators to the presidential election.
Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.
The National Popular Vote bill has passed 21 state legislative chambers, including one house in Arkansas, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and both houses in California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont. The bill has been enacted by Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These four states possess 50 electoral votes-- 19% of the 270 necessary to bring the law into effect.
See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
Wait a minute...I thought you WERE voting for Palin/McBush? Now, you're saying that you'd prefer experience instead? What finally awakened you? The rape thing?
Here's a new one! Obama buddies with the failing Freddie and Fannie!
From USA Today ...
Campaigning on her own, the Alaska governor also said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama "wants to raise income taxes and raise payroll taxes and raise investment income taxes and raise business taxes and raise the death tax.
"But John McCain and I know that's not the way you grow the economy," she added.
In fact, independent groups such as the Tax Policy Center have concluded that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under Obama's proposals.
If you just look at what Obama is wanting in the way of more programs, you will figure out, eventually, that what he's proposing will cost everyone more on their taxes. It's just common sense.
With all the recent activities in the national banking industry and Wall Street, Bush III we do not need!
That's old news... but prolly new to the moonbats ;)
"Now that Palin is the Republican nominee for vice president, Democrats such as former Alaska governor Tony Knowles — who signed the rape-kit bill into law and was defeated by Palin in 2006 — are raising the issue to question Palin's commitment to women's issues and crime victims."
Again, do you moonbats see why you always lose? You guys lie.
So, Palin was NOT Governor when this law was repealed. It's amazing how none of the left wing blogs were able to find this, yet I found it in about two minutes. Hmmmmm.... poor libs caught lying again.
Clark -- please spread the word and cease using the lie. Thanks.
But no, they are swarming aftet their Holy Moses Obama, like he'll actually change anything.
And they keep repeating the lie.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailmoney9-2008sep09,0,1969729.story
$66 million indicates a lot of big money voters are scared.
$66 million indicates campaign finance reform, ha! What's that?
$66 million indicates a lot of money being wasted.
Really. What a waste.
John McCain is a little farther down on the list at $21,550, but this is from contributions from individual employees and no funds are listed from PACs (political action committees), which are generally formed for special interest purposes.
That is from an independent source:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html
Just Google Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae Political Contributions
If you want to break the topic down to its most basic form, "increased regulation = more government bailouts." The fact that McCain has someone on his team who wanted deregulation or at least to prevent more regulation (more freedom = no government bailout, more risk, more accountability if you want to survive as a business) is not as bad of a thing as you've made it sound from a business standpoint.
People in charge of private companies that have a government safety net where they can't technically "fail" are hindered because risk is supposed to play a role in good business decisions. These companies gave people money who they knew couldn't pay them back and under horrible terms. They did harm to people--from the people they issued the loans to every taxpayer in America that will be paying for their arrogance and negligence. Most likely they'll never see jail time however, even though this is as bad or worse than Enron.
This is why I believe in having as free of an economy as possible because the market would've crashed their system of doing things a long time ago. When things like this are kept afloat artificially, it does greater harm long-term.
Uh...moron...I hate to be the one to bring this up to you, but, uh...the bill that the democratic state legislator introduced was as a result of Palin/Wasilla introducing the raping of rape victims, by forcing them to pay for their own medical exams. You just proved a point that I'd made on a previous thread, genius.
See why you dumbfuck wingnuts are always mocked and ridiculed? You're just "palin" stupid, and you insist upon proving it, over and over and over again. Dumbass. This is even stupid by YOUR pathetic standards of dumb.
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"Now that Palin is the Republican nominee for vice president, Democrats such as former Alaska governor Tony Knowles — who signed the rape-kit bill into law and was defeated by Palin in 2006 — are raising the issue to question Palin's commitment to women's issues and crime victims.""
Look at this sentence that the fucking idiot uses as "proof" here. This sentence eviscerates HIS GAL, but he's too fucking stupid to realize it. What a moron. The laughing stock of this board strikes again, showing everybody how fucking stupid he is.
"Clark, you have no credibility. I am exposing you every time I come across the lies you spew."
And then, you actually go out of your way to make yourself look even more like a complete idiot. Nice move. No wonder you're a dumbass republiCON. Batshit boy.
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So, Palin was NOT Governor when this law was repealed."
No shit, dumbass. She was the mayor who was charging rape victims for being raped. She's the reason that the state legislature created a law to disallow the practice that she, and only SHE was using. God, you're fucking stupid. You should probably think about just staying out of these conversations altogether. They're clearly FAR over your pinhead.
"unable to find a buyer, but she finally sold it outside of eBay."
First, she LIED when she said that she'd sold it on Ebay. Secondly, she sold it AT A LOSS, genius. Oh, and she's STILL the reigning pork queen of the entire nation. "Change Alaska can profit from."
Here's a question for you, since you seem to know SO much about recounts and fair elections:
How many recounts were done in the state of FL in 2000? Think carefully before you answer, because I know what the answer is.
As a bonus question, answer this: Do you feel it's important for there to be validation of election integrity, even if it requires the recounting of votes?
Here's the link:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm
Here's the headline:
Palin's town used to bill victims for rape kits
Now, you tell me...if you were looking to defend Palin, and "smear" someone who was trying to bring out the ugly truth about her, would you have chosen THAT article, given that the headline of the article said what it says?
Game.
Set.
Match.
Again.
Loser.
Pathetic.
Loser.
Dumbass.
LOL!
According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor. When it was signed, Wasilla's police chief expressed displeasure.
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said in an e-mail that the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."
"Gov. Palin's position could not be more clear," she said. "To suggest otherwise is a deliberate misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice."The campaign cited the governor's record on domestic violence, including increasing funding for shelters.
Until the 2000 legislation, local law enforcement agencies in Alaska could pass along the cost of the exams, which are needed to obtain an attacker's DNA evidence. Rape victims in several areas of Alaska, including the Matanuska-Susitna Valley where Wasilla is, complained about being charged for the tests, victims' advocate Lauree Hugonin, of the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault, told state House committees, records show.
In cases when insurance companies are billed, the victims pay a deductible.
Fannon told the Frontiersman that the tests would cost the department up to $14,000 per year. He said he would rather force rapists to pay for the tests, not taxpayers. Fannon, who is no longer police chief, could not be reached for comment Wednesday; his home phone number has been disconnected
Nationally, victims' advocates have for years reported scattered instances of rape victims being required to pay for their forensic tests, says Ilse Knecht of the National Center for Victims of Crime in Washington. Those complaints have subsided somewhat after Congress in 2005 passed a law requiring states to provide rape exams free of charge or reimburse victims for the costs, says Knecht, whose group supported the provision.
This has been proven wrong. She knew that she was doing this. This was the lying spin, but it's been discarded by the facts. Sorry.
"It does go to show it was not her idea."
Yes, it was, unfortunately.
Read and learn:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?memberId=62020&articleId=281474977448701&nav=MyGather
"From what I can find googling,victims have to pay for rape kits in many places all over the country. "
Very few, actually, BUT, it was seen as SO repugnant when Palin instituted this as mayor of Wasilla, that the state legislature addressed it, and then the US congress did as well. McCain was also in favor of billing rape victims for being raped, so in that respect, I guess he chose the right running mate. I just can't imagine how they're going to sell this to the American public, however, although it appears that some just don't care about rape victims, and want to see the scales tipped more in the rapist's favor.
"No executive decision making at all."
Lincoln had none, either. He really sucked as POTUS, as I recall.
Btw, this was the legislation that McBush voted against. And, it is the legislation that came to the national forefront because the Alaska legislature found Palin's practice of raping rape victims so repulsive that they stepped in to stop it.
Good for you. Then you should know that the votes, which were MANDATED BY STATE LAW for a FULL recount, were NEVER recounted, until the infamous newspaper consortium finally stepped in to count them, long after the election.
"He wanted absentee ballots counted for him, and not the ones for Bush."
Gee...what a shocker...another reichwing lie. Go figure. I guess we won't even talk about all of the military absentee ballots that came in improperly completed and mailed AFTER the deadline, but that which were counted for Booshie boy, while Gore absentee ballots that came in similarly were casually tossed away, huh?
And, heaven forbid we talk about the nearly 100,000 black (i.e. 90% democratic, by some shocking coincidence) that were illegally purged from eligible voter lists.
And, we won't talk about how the newspaper consortium, which was the ONLY full recount done, found that, in every counting scenario but one, Gore would've won.
"The news there at that level (local) isn't quite as good at blowing smoke up your ass like the biased national networks. :"
That's true, isn't it? Local news wasn't so quick to call the election, which was FAR from determined, for booshie boy.
I will say though, that for someone who claims to have been there at the time, you sure are ignorant of the facts.
"Point being you can't just single out one person or group for lying,mudslinging or any other poor conduct"
Actually, when it's republiSCUM doing the lying, cheating, stealing, mudslinging, yes, you most certainly can.
And Palin had nothing to do with this and she probably never heard of it until it became an issue. Show me where Palin 'fought' to charge for rape kits. It is ABSURD.
"In the past, we've charged the cost of exams to the victims' insurance company when possible," then-chief Charlie Fannon told the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, the local newspaper. "I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer"
And when the law that banned the practice went into effect "Wasilla's police chief expressed displeasure".
NO WHERE ONCE DOES IT SAY PALIN SUPPORTED THIS DUMB ISSUE... and that's really the point. You liberal moonbats air-dropped 30 Obama lawyers, loads of media into Wasilla and are digging up the most obscure BS to try and discredit our next VP.... so you've put us in the defense mode with so much crap it's hard to separate facts from fiction. But you know what.... American's don't give a crap about the liberal lies... she will be judged her 80% approval rating as well her stellar character -- which she rates higher than Obama!
Also, you never fessed up to the facts I presented regarding the BS $20 deficit. So when you get it wrong, you just pretend I didn't say anything.
You go ahead and run to the bank with your little gotcha B.S..... it doesn't really matter. See, we're still gonna win in November. McCain already has Florida and he is leading Obama in Ohio by 3 points. And the numbers just keep getting worse and I just keep getting more giddy about it.
Now go get your shinebox!
"In retrospect, I would have asked the female working-mother mayor of that town why her police chief was against this," said Croft, the former Anchorage state representative. (in other words, she was not informed of what the police chief was doing on this matter)
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said in an e-mail that the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."
"Gov. Palin's position could not be more clear," she said. "To suggest otherwise is a deliberate misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice."
I think any reasonable person would agree this ends that bogus allegation.
Thanks for playing, moonbat.
Well, that's a first, ladies and gentlemen! This is something that NEVER EVER happens. I wish to extend congratulation to you for finally finding a shred of integrity. Perhaps, we can even cure you of your republicanism before long.
"you would never do that."
This isn't true. I've never had a problem admitting an error when I've made one. I just rarely make them around here, because I do my homework before I start typing. That's why people like you are so often proven wrong when you face me. You people do sloppy, or no homework at all.
"I am an honest broker of information and I've yet to see where anyone but the police chief mandated that rape kits be charged to INSURANCE companies. "
I guess you haven't bothered to do all of your homework once again, or you've once again done it sloppily. Palin's been directly tied to this STUPID, and INEXCUSABLE policy. Links have been provided, to enlighten you. You should either take the time to follow and read them, or just accept what I'm saying, because I am, as usual, correct.
"BTW -- you still have no credibility Clark"
Alrighty then, batshit boy. You just keep right on pretending that. Close your eyes, click those pretty ruby slipper heels three times, and repeat that line over and over again, and the magic fairy will suddenly make it true.
"Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said in an e-mail that the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."
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I already refuted this for Patti, assmunch. See what I mean about doing sloppy homework? This is the shit that constantly gets your berated and humiliated in front of the class. One would THINK that, at LEAST on a thread in which you've been COMPLETELY and ENTIRELY OBLITERATED, to the point where you actually came out and finally ADMITTED that you were a dumbass, you'd take care to avoid falling into the same stupid mistakes that got you called out to begin with, but like a dumbass, you go RIGHT back to your same dumbass mistakes again. You're an idiot. Keep clicking your heels though, dumbass.
That's because you didn't bother to go looking for the information. It never made the "liberal" MSM, for some odd reason, but it HAS been FULLY documented, in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006, and it's being documented once again prior to this election. All across the nation, republicans are doing everything possible to strip democratic voters of their right to vote. Since blacks vote 90% (ok, 88% in the past election) democratic, it's easy to knock them out. Just make up some bogus caging list of black voters, and eliminate them all.
In Ohio, the sec. of state (who is thankfully a democrat now, and recognizes the importance of the right to vote) recently struck down an attempt by the GOP to remove 600,000 registered democrats from the eligible list.
Most recently, it's been discovered that the McCain campaign has sent out millions of absentee ballot request forms, many of which were sent to registered democrats, and had egregious errors on them that would invalidate the voter who sent them in.
Don't look for this information in the "liberal" mainstream media, because it won't appear there, except on an Olbermann or Maddow broadcast. Google for it, and you'll find more documentation than you could read in a lifetime on the subject. John Conyers wrote a book about the election fraud in Ohio in 2004, after holding congressional hearings about it and taking in literally thousands of documented cases.
"I stand behind my comment that everybody has thier fair share of B.S. lies and accussations to throw around, Democrats and Republicans alike. "
Anyone who would compare today's filthy lying GOP with the DNC simply isn't paying attention. The GOP is, bar none, THE gold bar standard for lying, smearing, low-balling, cheating, and stealing.
Then why won't Charlie Rangel step down as Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee -- the folk who write the tax code. At the very least, he failed to pay taxes on at least $75,000 in rental income from his luxury beachfront villa in the Caribbean
Read it and weap -- balls so big I don't know where he buys his underwear.
Why did Obama get a sweetheart deal on both his million dollar home and an adjacent property, yet nothing ever happened... he simply said "I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it!" and that's it... no more media scrutiny.
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid collected a $1.1 million windfall on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show.
Well... I can do this all day. You get the point. Thanks for playing yet another losing hand.
The people are getting it, that much is clear. Check those electoral maps lately?
McCain Winning
Again, ANYBODY that attempts to compare the voluminous corruption, filth, lying, cheating, and stealing of the GOP with the DNC these days simply isn't paying attention. Do you REALLY want me to dig up that list of corrupt republiSCUM for you again? Do you honestly think I won't pummel your dumbass with harsh facts once again? When is enough enough for you?
"Why did Obama get a sweetheart deal on both his million dollar home and an adjacent property"
He didn't, dumbass. That's a reichwing lie. He paid fair market value for it. Sorry. Those pesky fact thingys again.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200808250011
"and that's it... no more media scrutiny. "
Apparently, you're a liar, since it appears that your precious Fox "news" covered it.
"Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid collected a $1.1 million windfall on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show. "
Another pile o' reichwing bullshit that was fully vetted and turned up NOTHING. Poor baby.
http://www.uncorrelated.com/2006/10/the_non_event_of_reids_sale.html
"Well... I can do this all day. You get the point. "
Yes, I think we all got the point that you're a fucking idiot. Thanks for playing yet another losing hand, dipshit. And to think, you COULD'VE just chosen to walk away the FIRST time I handed your ass to, but NO, even after you ADMITTED that I pummeled your pathetic ass, you just HAD to keep coming back for more. Fucking idiot.
"Check those electoral maps lately?"
Every now and then, I do, but it's far too early for them to be meaningful, except to say that, for the past several months, Obama has been ahead. If McBush slips very so slightly ahead for a moment, that's sort of to be expected, isn't it, seeing as how he's the "maverick" and the "straight talker," and the "voice of experience," and the "change guy" all wrapped up in one, right?
The question that dumbass McBooshie supporters should be asking themselves at this point though, is "Why can't McBoosh close the deal?" Why can't he even get close to 50% of the nation's support, even this far along, and even with the massive lie campaign of the reichwing media and McBoosh/PaliCheney themselves? The fact that he can't muster more than about 45% support at this point should be very troubling to the lunatic fringe, BUT, if I know the lunatic fringe, and I do, they didn't earn their nickname by having rational thoughts.
Then why did he find it necessary to apologize for it and say it was the wrong thing to do? You can't just sweep Obama's words under the carpet.
And again, you did not address and of those nefarious crooked politicians mentioned about. With you it's simply ok to be crooked as long as you have a (D) next to your name.
"On the subject of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, didn't Obama have a person"
Obama has ties to three persons from the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac:
1. former Fannie Mae CEO James Johnson to vet potential vice presidential prospects AND key political and economic adviser
2. former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines key political and economic adviser
You look at Obama’s economic advisers, the guys he has counted on from day one and who have raised him a ton — and I mean a ton — of money: Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, both of them are waist to neck deep in the mortgage debacle.
Worth noting Obama is the second person on a list of those who received the most money from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
DEMOCRATS SAY:
“How can Obama go out with a straight face and saw it was Republicans who made this mess, when it is his key advisers who ran the agencies that made the big mess what it is?” says a Democrat House member who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. “It’s his people who are responsible for what may well be the single largest government bailout in history. And every single one of them made millions off the collapse that are lining Obama’s campaign coffers. If the McCain campaign lets this one go, they deserve to lose.”
Good stuff... anybody wonder why Obama is slipping? For a guy so new to the DC politics he is very well entrenched in all the big money corporate players.
Change You Can Believe In? Only if that change is how fast can you get in with the corruption of Washington... Obama wins that race hands down! LOL
t isn’t just Fannie Mae where Obama has a problem. Another close political adviser, in fact the one man responsible for rallying support for Obama early on among Congressional Democrats, is Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who served on the Board of Directors for Freddie Mac after leaving the Clinton White House. According to Freddie Mac insiders, Emanuel during his time on the board opposed every reform proposed by the Bush Administration that would have impacted Freddie and Fannie Mae.
http://overthehilloracles.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-obama-fannie-freddie-connection/
Peace!
Actually, you're the only person I've ever seen say this. There was absolutely NOTHING to his house purchase, except that he bought a house. Big f'ing deal. Lots of people used to do it in this country, believe it or not.
"And again, you did not address and of those nefarious crooked politicians mentioned about.
You're an idiot. That's all that needed to be addressed. Btw, McCain was one of the Keating Five, and your girl is currently up to her neck in a rather serious ethics scandal that she doesn't seem to want to cooperate on. Ooopsies. Guess you plum forgot about those pesky little fact thingys, huh?
""On the subject of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, didn't Obama have a person"
Another place a McBush supporter just flat out shouldn't go. Read and learn, little one:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9663_mccain_fannie_freddie.html
"You look at Obama’s economic advisers"
Ooopsies...there's another place a McBooshie supporter should never go. Guess you really don't know a whole helluva lot about your old man now, do you? Read and learn, little one:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9246.html
"Worth noting Obama is the second person on a list of those who received the most money from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
There's nothing illegal or immoral about accepting campaign contributions from private citizens who work for a private company. Nice try though, sparky. Meanwhile, your "mavericky guy" has immersed his entire campaign in seedy lobbyists, including some who've actually conducted business with foreign nations that the US state dept. has called "Not necessarily in this country's interests." Nice association there, eh?
Btw, did you happen to know that Palin's minister blames America for 9/11, and wants all Jews that do not convert to be killed, and that she is a proud supporter of an anti-American, terrorist organization in Alaska whose founder openly stated that he "hates America?" Nah, I guess you probably didn't know those things either, did ya, big feller? Read and learn:
http://mediamattersaction.org/freeride/lobbyists/
http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/forums/thread/2557545.aspx
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/02/politics/animal/main4407224.shtml
"Good stuff... anybody wonder why Obama is slipping?"
He's slipping, eh? The race has been neck and neck ever since Obama was named the presumptive candidate, and they're still neck and neck. At least, when polling organizations contact 50% registered republicans and 50% democrats. Meanwhile, there are millions more registered democrats than there are republicans. Ooopsies. Guess you didn't know that either, did ya?
"Change You Can Believe In?
Not from McBush and Palicheney, that's for sure.
"http://overthehilloracles.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-obama-fannie-freddie-connection/"
You're using BLOGS for your "news" again? Didn't you learn your lesson on this before? Btw, Phil Gramm, McBooshie's economic advisor, is the ARCHITECT of the current financial disaster! Spin that one, beeatch!
Oh, and I don't have to rely upon gossip blogs for my news on this, either. I wonder why they call him "Foreclosure Phil?" Read and learn:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24844889/
Ouch, eh?
"and the libs are now screaming everyday how Bush is at fault for the FM debacle."
Yuck it up, clown. Read and learn:
http://www.reuters.com/article/telecomm/idUSL2719096320080428
Just let me know when you've had enough ass-kicking for the day, mmmmk? I can do this all night, if you want more. Just remember, YOU chose this for yourself. You could've easily just walked away when I'm kicked your teeth down your throat the first time, but nope...you just HAD to come back for more. THEN, you could've easily just walked away when I kicked your teeth down your throat AGAIN, but nope...you just HAD to come back for more. Just keep coming back, and I'll keep on pummeling you. EVENTUALLY, I'm thinking that you'll finally realize that you're simply unarmed for this. You've walked into a gun battle with nothing but your dumb ass.
http://washparkprophet.blogspot.com/2005/11/republican-criminals.html
Congress:
Former Congressman Bill Janklow(R-SD) Convicted and jailed for killing a man with his car after blowing through a stopsign at a high rate of speed.
Governors:
John Rowland(R-CT)Convicted and jailed for graft, had work done on his house and some other bribe related charges.
George Ryan(R-IL) Under indictment for hiring practices.(I notice you had Blagojevich--this one must have slipped your mind)
Jim McGreevy(D-NJ) Resigned under fire sexual relationship with a male staffmember.
Executive:
Lewis Libby(R)-Assistant to the Vice President, 5 count indictment, perjury, false statements.
Karl Rove(R)-Assistant to the President, currently under investigation.
Larry Franklin(R)-DOD employee, pleaded guilty in espionage case.
Leandro Aragoncillo-46, was a U.S. Marine most recently assigned to the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney, arrested for spying in the Whitehouse.
Kenneth Tomlinson(R)-Former Head of CPB, under investigation.
Armstrong Williams(R)-Investigation revealed that payments to him for propaganda efforts were illegal.
Etcetera:
New Hampshire-4 Republican operatives arrested for election 2002 phone jamming scandal. # have pleaded guilty, one is due for trial soon.
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Pennsylvania Republican Congressman Don Sherwood had a visit from the Washington police after a 29-year old woman who was not the 64-year old congressman's wife called 911 and complained that Sherwood had choked her. Sherwood said he had merely been giving the woman a back rub. He is one of those holier-than-thou family values conservatives.
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Senate President Ben Stevens (R-AK)
Probed for accepting consulting fees from oil services firm Veco. Subject to a recall petition. Son of US Senate Pro Tem President Ted Stevens.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA)
Ethics probe for accepting salary from two men’s fitness magazines while governor, possible kickback from American Media publisher to Schwarzenegger charity and silence money to a woman who had an extramarital affair with Schwarzenegger. This probe may go criminal.
Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-CA)
Probed for bribery regarding financial ties with and favors for defense firm MZM. Pleaded guilty to tax evasion, conspiracy, Nov. 28, 2005.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)
Tied to Abramoff scandal on loan papers. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff.
Gov. John Rowland (R-CT)
Convicted, imprisoned 2004 for accepting free renovations to his vacation cottage as well as charter flights and vacations from a state contractor, and defrauding the Internal Revenue Service by not paying taxes on the free services.
Attorney General Jane Brady (R-DE)
Accused of helping MBNA Bank of Wilmington skirt campaign finance laws.
Rep. Katherine Harris (R-FL)
Probed for campaign donations from MZM, Inc. in relation to Duke Cunningham probe. Currently a US Senate candidate.
Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL)
Recipient of contributions from Abramoff. Probed for corporate ties to Yang Enterprises, involved in over billing state of Florida. Feeney was Jeb Bush’s 1994 running mate for Lt. Gov.
Ralph Reed, candidate for Lt. Gov. (R-GA)
Probed for involvement in Abramoff, Kidan, DeLay Indian casino money laundering.
Gov. Felix Camacho (R-Guam)
Probed for ties to Abramoff and demoting Acting US Attorney for Guam Frederick Black.
New Hawaii PAC and House GOP PAC (R-HI)
Campaign violations filed against a number of GOP candidates for the state legislature and US House for skirting spending limits.
Dalton Tanonaka, former Lt. gubernatorial and congressional candidate (R-HI)
Under FEC investigation for disguising and failing to report campaign loans. Also investigated for possible illegal foreign funding from Hong Kong and Japan.
State Rep. and House Minority Leader Galen Fox (R-HI)
Convicted on federal charges of fondling a woman on a Honolulu to Los Angeles commercial flight.
Rep. Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House (R-IL)
Probed for accepting money from Turkey.
Rep. Jerry Weller (R-IL)
Recipient of contributions from Abramoff. (Weller is also married to the daughter of Guatemalan dictator and mass murderer [300,0000 Guatemalans] Efrain Rios Montt.)
Bob Kjellander, Republican National Treasurer (R-IL)
Under Federal probe for steering investment contracts to Illinois Teachers Retirement Fund.
State Rep. Lee Daniels (Elmhurst), Former House Leader (R-IL)
Under Federal investigation for misuse of state employees for political activity and state contract kickbacks.
Gov. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)
Under investigation for soliciting campaign donations in return for INDOT (Indiana Dept. of Transportation) contracts.
Thomas Sharp, INDOT Commissioner (R-IN)
Under investigation for soliciting campaign donations in return for INDOT (Indiana Dept. of Transportation) contracts.
Jim Kittle, GOP state chairman (R-IN)
Under investigation for soliciting campaign donations in return for INDOT (Indiana Dept. of Transportation) contracts.
Rep. Chris Chocola (R-IN)
Received DeLay ARMPAC money. FEC investigating.
Adam Taff, 2004 congressional candidate, KS-3 (R-KS)
Indicted for campaign violations and wire fraud.
Gov. Ernie Fletcher (R-KY)
Criminal probe in a state employees’ merit system scandal. Received contributions from DeLay’s ARMPAC, linked to Abramoff.
Dan Druen, Transportation Commissioner (R-KY)
Merit system scandal, witness tampering. Indicted.
Bob Wilson, Deputy Personnel Secretary (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted
Darrell Brock, Chairman of Kentucky GOP (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted.
Basil Turbyfill, Personnel Adviser to KY Gov. Ernie Fletcher (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted.
Bill Nighbert, Transportation Secretary (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted.
Dick Murgatroyd, Deputy Chief of Staff to KY Gov. Ernie Fletcher (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted.
Jim Adams, Deputy Transportation Secretary (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted.
Cory Meadows, Executive Director, Transportation Dept. (R-KY)
Merit system scandal. Indicted.
Lloyd Cress, Environmental Protection Commissioner (R-KY)
Probed in merit system scandal.
Dave Disponett (R-KY)
Indicted for violation of Kentucky civil service law.
Sen. David Vitter (R-LA)
Linked to Abramoff in a case involving a Louisiana Indian tribe.
Joseph Steffen, aide to Gov. Bob Ehrlich (R-MD)
Resigned for starting a rumor campaign against Baltimore Mayor Martin O’Malley.
Massachusetts Executive Office of Environmental Affairs - controlled by Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Under ethics cloud for awarding a $10,000 contract to conservative Boston Herald columnist to write columns supportive of Romney’s policies.
Lawrence Novak, Vice Chair, state GOP (R-MA)
Arrested by FBI for drug money laundering.
Mike Cox, Attorney General (R-MI)
Failed to pursue felony pollution charges against Graceland Fruit after a major Department of Environmental Quality investigation.
Rep. Candice Miller (R-MI)
Investigated by House Erthics Committee for accepting campaign contributions in return for her yes vote on the 2004 Medicare bill.
Rep. Roy Blunt, House Majority Leader (R-MO)
Investigated for trading illegal PAC money with DeLay through Blunt's Rely on Your Beliefs Fund. Received Indian casino money from tribes represented by Abramoff.
Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT)
Probed for links to Abramoff.
Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE)
Received tainted money from DeLay. Refused to return it.
Rep. Jon Porter (R-NV)
Received $25,000 from DeLay's ARMPAC.
Sen. John Sununu (R-NH)
Probed for receipt of money from DeLay tainted PAC.
Rep. Jeb Bradley (R-NH)
Probed for receipt of money from DeLay tainted PAC.
Gene Chandler, State House Speaker (R-NH)
Campaign contributions violations.
James Tobin, Northeast political director National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee (R-NH)
Indicted, conspiracy, GOTV phone line jamming, Sununu 2002 campaign.
Chuck McGee, former Exec. Dir. New Hampshire Republican Party (R-NH)
Pleaded guilty, conspiracy, GOTV phone line jamming, Sununu 2002 campaign.
Allen Raymond, GOP Marketplace President (R-NH)
Pleaded guilty, conspiracy, GOTV phone line jamming, Sununu 2002 campaign.
Tom Wilson, GOP State Chairman (R-NJ)
Probed for his firm receiving $2.7 million from the Burlington County Bridge Commission.
Jeanine Pirro, Westchester County District Attorney and US Senate candidate (R-NY)
Probed for campaign donations from mobsters. Her husband served a year in prison for tax evasion.
Gov. Froilan Tenorio (R-Northern Marianas Islands)
Grand Jury probe, ties to Abramoff.
Rep. Charles Taylor (R-NC)
Probed for ownership of shady Russian bank whose other major investor is a former KGB general. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff.
Hayes Martin, Treasurer of Charles Taylor's congressional campaign (R-NC)
Indicted, fraud and money laundering.
Gov. Bob Taft (R-OH)
Misuse of state funds/ethics violations. Convicted, four first degree misdemeanors, pleaded no contest (admission of guilt). $4000 fine and public apology.Two Federal Grand Juries, one state Grand Jury still investigating Taft.
Thomas Noe, Bush-Cheney 04 campaign chair, NW Ohio; Turnpike Commissioner; University Regent (R-OH)
Misuse of state funds for rare coin fund. Indicted by Federal grand jury, arrested in Florida.
Bernadette Noe, Thomas Noe’s wife, Chairman of Lucas County GOP; Chairman of Lucas Co. Board of Elections (R-OH)
Misuse of state funds.
Brian Hicks, Chief of Staff to Gov. Bob Taft, member Ohio University Board of Trustees (R-OH)
Convicted for an ethics violation dealing with his stay at Tom Noe's home in Florida.
Cherie Carroll, Chief of Staff Executive Secretary to Gov. Bob Taft (R-OH)
Convicted for accepting the payment of meals at "fine dining establishments" valued at over $500 from Tom Noe while he was doing business with Ohio.
Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH)
Being probed for involvement with Abramoff, Kidan, and DeLay, Indian casino money laundering. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff and Kidan. Indictment may be imminent.
Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH)
Probe of financial ties to Games, Inc., and proposal to put Ohio State Lottery on the Internet. Received contributions from DeLay’s ARMPAC, linked to Abramoff.
Douglas Moormann, Gov. Taft's Executive Assistant for Business and Industry (R-OH)
Under criminal investigation for accepting loan from Noe.
State Rep. Dan Doyle (R-OR)
Convicted for misuse of campaign funds.
Rep. Don Sherwood (R-PA)
Investigated by DC police for assaulting and choking a 29-year old Maryland woman. Sherwood, who is married and campaigned for office on "family values", also has been sued by the woman, who claims he attacked and choked her in their “love nest.” Sherwood defended himself by stating that he wasn't trying to choke her - he was just trying to give her a “back rub”.
Mike Battles, House candidate in 2002 (R-RI)
Firm, Custer Battles, disbarred from Iraq contracts following allegations of overcharging and money laundering.
Vincent Cianci, Mayor of Providence (R-RI)
Convicted in 2002 and sentenced to 5 years in prison for conspiracy related to Federal charges of racketeering, extortion, witness tampering, and mail fraud. Also resigned from office in 1984 after being convicted of assaulting a man with a lit cigarette, an ashtray and a fireplace log.
Rep. Bill Janklow (R-SD)
Convicted of second degree manslaughter and imprisoned for running a stop sign at a rural intersection near Trent, SD and hitting motorcyclist Randolph E. Scott, killing him. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff.
Sen. Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader (R-TN)
Under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) for insider trading on his Hospital Corporation of America (HCA) stock
Rep. Tom DeLay, House Majority Leader (R-TX)
Probed for campaign finance fraud, ties to Abramoff/Kidan, Saipan sweat shops. Grand Jury, Travis County prosecutor, and House Ethics Committee probing DeLay. Indicted by Travis County District Attorney for 1 count of criminal conspiracy and 2 counts of money laundering. Arrested and booked at Harris County jail October 20, 2005. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff.
Jim Ellis, Director Americans for a Republican Majority (ARMPAC) PAC (R-TX)
Tied to DeLay and Abramoff, indicted.
John Colyandro, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), DeLay associate (R-TX)
Indicted.
Warren RoBold, Lobbyist and DeLay associate (R-TX)
Indicted.
State House Speaker Tom Craddick (R-TX)
Probed for campaign violations involving TRMPAC and DeLay.
State Rep. Todd Baxter (R-TX)
Investigated for receiving ARMPAC and TRMPAC money from Republican National Committee. To resign from office.
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX)
Recipient of $10,000 from ARMPAC in 2003. Arrested for DWI in South Dakota.
Spokane Mayor Jim West (R-WA)
Under Federal and state investigation for abusing his office to obtain sexual favors and soliciting sex over the Internet from underage males.
OTHER REPUBLICANS ACCUSED OF RECENT WRONGDOING (mostly in Washington, DC area):
Jack Abramoff, GOP lobbyist Adam Kidan, DC Dial-a-Mattress franchise in DC and Abramoff associate
Indicted for wire fraud, conspiracy Indicted, wire fraud, conspiracy.
Michael Scanlon, former chief of staff to Tom DeLay
Being probed for involvement in Indian casino scandal with Abramoff, Kidan, and DeLay. Indicted Nov. 18, 2005 for conspiracy to defraud Indian tribes. Pleaded guilty Nov. 21.
Steve Rosen, American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)
Indicted for criminal conspiracy involving classified national security information.
Keith Weismann, AIPAC
Indicted for criminal conspiracy involving classified national security information.
Larry Franklin, Colonel, USAF Reserves, Dept. of Defense
Indicted for criminal conspiracy involving classified national security information.