I was reading this New York Tmes article over at:
www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/us/politics/05dems.html?em
And it says, in perhaps a bad choice of word phrasing, that Barack Obama plans to "increasingly lean on prominent Democratic women" to counteract the amazing and unexpected effect Sarah Palin has had on the election.
It also talks about Obama's plans to implement immediate covert action by "dispatching Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to Florida on Monday and bolstering his plan to deploy female surrogates to battleground states."
Wow, "female surrogates"!! Surrogates for whom?? Clinton or for himself??
Sounds like some kind of a real war, doesn't it??
The article goes on to say that Clinton will be embedded into the Sunshine State to "serve as a counterpoint to the searing attacks and fresh burst of energy that Ms. Palin injected into the race with her convention speech on Wednesday."
Counterpoint?? Don't they really mean "counterattack"?? Call it an over-active imagination if you want to, but, for some reason, I keep picturing Obama wide-eyed with panic and with sweat pouring down his forehead when he gave Hillary her marching papers.
I'm sure it is probably not true, but the image sure gives me something to giggle about it every fifteen minutes or so.
The article I'm referring to further says: "With the McCain-Palin team courting undecided female voters, including some who backed Mrs. Clinton in the Democratic primaries, Obama aides said they were counting on not only Mrs. Clinton but also Democratic female governors to rebut Ms. Palin."
Mr. Obama's actions are very telling and seem to be saying a great deal..... Suddenly, this little, no-name. upstart beauty queen from Wasilla has become a serious force to reckon with. Did I just hear the sound of mocking laughter come to a screeching halt??
I also like where the article talks about what Obama and Biden "need to do to regain the offensive after the Republican convention." Hmm, doesn't someone needing to "regain the offensive" typically mean that they have lost it and are now on the "DE-fensive"??
However, my favorite line of the entire article is this one:
"Advisers to Mr. Obama had predicted that the buzz over Ms. Palin would fade and that the race would quickly turn back into a contest between Senators McCain and Obama..."
Ahh....the best laid plans of mice and mulattos........
There does seem to be some sort of a "scramble" taking place in the Obama camp. Something has gone horribly and unexpectedly wrong. So, I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures, don't they?? And "desperate" is rapidly becoming the specific word I would use to characterize the presidential campaign of Mr. Barack Obama.............
(P.S......The 59th and the 61st comments on this thread will explain the one comment deletion........It was an honest accident.............honest!.................)
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The debates could be critical, or they might just add more confusion to the situation.
Obama is gathering liberal women to attack Palin so it doesn't look like he is being mean to her so she'll get any sympathy votes. I think that is what is happening.
Your comment is just one more example of the "sexism" that is running rampant on Gather.
BERF BUDDY - If I were Hillary, I would not fall for yet another of Candidate Obama's manipulation to win. She was treated horribly. She should demonstrate some integrity and not allow herself be used because she is a woman! She will go any way because she supports her party. This is so typical of Obama- when some one gets contoversial, he cuts them loose, throws them under the bus, and then runs over them (e.g., Rev. Wright).
I hope Floridians can see through the hype.
To whom, Kerrell?? To the women of Florida??
She certainly isn't "eye-candy" to me......
(I'm politically diabetic......)
You are right, counterpoint is just a nicer way of saying counterattack. Just like "community organizer" can also be called the host of a Tupperware party.
Man, I am usually such a nice, quiet person, but this election is making me snarky!
I commend her loyalty to the party but do wish she would just sit this out now.
I have said from the beginning if Obama won the nomination I would switch parties and vote Republican. Now that we have no more Bush's running.
Wasn't McCain picking Palin to begin with a "counterattack" on Obama's selection of a highly qualified candidate that is one of the most respected people in this country when it comes to foreign policy? The man that GWB called first to come to the White House to advise him after 9-11 and also brought back for advice on Afganistan and Iraq. Isn't Palin a "counterattack" to try to steal away voters that are disgruntled about Hilary not getting picked as VP? A counterattack and an insult to the intelligence of women voters if you ask me. It's like saying to them "I think you will vote for this woman because she is just that a woman! Plus hey we will throw in an extra bonus. She is a Mother of five and going to be a grandmom real soon. A lot sooner than she had planned as a matter of fact. So if anyone is guilty of sexism and insulting the intelligence of a diverse group of American women it is McCain and his Rovian warriors.
So what if her campaign slogan is going to be "please help me build a bridge to nowhere? Oh never mind, I changed my mind about that! It really is a bad idea! But I'll just keep these millions though okay? I promise I'll put them to good use!"
No, Bob.......what you're supposed to be doing is running FOR someone......
Like the people of the United States, for example..........
I am sure more vetting was needed and now it will crumble like a house of cards.
I didn't want either Hilary or Obama. But if I were Hilary, I'd tell Obama to stuff it. She won't though, because she's hoping if he does get in, it will be for only 4 years and she can try again.
No, Bob.......what you're supposed to be doing is running FOR someone......
Like the people of the United States, for example.........."
I read it wrong, and had the image of the candidates running away, from crowds of people... I have a feeling if they did this in arenas, there would be no winners, or supporters either, they would all kill each other.
One observation I can make is that no one interrupted Senator. Obama like they did Senator McCain and that really upset me as I think each of these fine intelligent men deserved their time uninterrupted. I thought the acceptance speeches were so important, and I think McCain proved some of the character they said he had in how he handled it.
This is the email that lea mentioned in her post.
Yes, Marilyn, thanks for posting that.
Lera, do you follow closely what's going on in Iraq? Guess what, yes the surge did work. But as part of the "surge" we armed and trained 70000 Sunni Militia. They are the ones who did most of the "dirty work" in gettin AlQueda to chill out a bit. Now the President of Iraq has said that it is time for America to put in a concrete withdrawal schedual and stick to it. What he (the SHITE President and I am sure you know the difference there. McCain didn't but I am sure that you do) made as a condition before the withdrawal though is that these Sunnis turn in all of their weapontry before we pull out. Why do you think he wants that? What do you think is going to happen in a country made up mostly of two "tribes" that hate each other and have hated each other for as long as anyone knows if one of those tribes is heavily armed (by us) and the other tribe is in "Power"? Does that thing called Civil War sound familar? The thing that a couple of years back Obama said was going to happen sooner or later? I just read an article in the news magazine called "The Week" (ever heard of it? it is an excellent unbiased mag that gives all sides of every story) that American Generals and ex-generals are saying that Iraq is a powder keg under the surface and we gave one side of the equation the best arms that a militia could ever hope to have.
Meanwhile over in Afganistan (you remember there right? Where Bin Laden probably is, if he's still alive. Plus right next to our good FRIEnD Pakistan) we are losing grip on what we once had and that same magazine has said that all that we have done there over the past 7 years is in danger of completely collasping. So you are right the surge "worked" in an area where there was no terrorism to begin with years ago and has "un"worked all of the progress that brave American and a real coalition of nations worked for years to achieve.
McCain "used to be called RINO" Lera I agree. You used to be called a little girl years ago when you were a child. Are you still a little girl? You know what is so comical? You all admit that Bush is a screw up that has done a horrible job. But still you want John McCain to be president. The same John McCain that just eight years ago, you all voted against in a landslide in the Republican primaries because you thought Bush was the better choice to be president. If that isn't an endorsement for Obama, I don't know what is!!
Lera, Please tell me about all of FACTUAL details of the corruption in Chicago that Obama took on but it is still the same?
She's running for VICE president, Bob.
She's running for VICE president, Bob.
Lera M., Sep 5, 2008, 7:26pm EDT
I know, how sad is that????
Couldn't be sharper, Berf :-)
I'm still trying to be off to find that transcript so we can all benefit from the advice of Saint Sarah on sexism and go back to wondering why annual household incomes have steadily declined under the Bush and McCain years.
It's Mooseville, Bob. Jeesh.
Terry M., Sep 5, 2008, 7:00pm EDT
While I don't even think that is close to right Terry, all I have to say is yeah now let's wait for the lightning bolts called reality that will soon hit her!!
Lera....Are you talking about Bob or the other 99.99999999% of the Obama/Biden Democtats on this site??
Really do have to go now, be back soon!
Have a good night and weekend if we don't RUN INTO each other again before then.
I don't know about selflessness, but I always have an ulterior motive, Julia.......:>)
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Sorry for the lack of flow here, but this was accidentally deleted and I've been asked to repost:
We shouldn't even talk about Sarah Palin (suits me, I'm bored already), it's sexist.
Sarah Palin on sexism and whining:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Y8FKAsxmk
I think its more sexist to keep her locked away from the media like she is a china doll or a puppet.
Who has her "locked away"? I think she's out doing speeches, isn't she?
The other three no longer have that tie to working america. Matter of fact most people who get major party nominations these days feel they are above everyone else.
I was undecided on who to vote. fornew I was not going to vote for Obama at all. But was not for McCain either. I was considering Bob Barr, until he chose Palin as his running mate. When I read about her, I saw I agreed with her on many things more so than the other three. So I am voting for McCain/Palin.
I mean there was a lot of whining forever about all of the media attention that Obama has been given. I don't think it was or is his supporters that whined so much about it. I think actually if I follow back your comment stream I am believing that there were a few comments from you there a time or two about it, weren''t there?
What Union are you a member of, if you don't mind my asking? I was a Steel worker for years and a shop steward for them. I was a Teamster for a lot more years than that and a shop steward there and an organizer. Of course that was a few years back.
If you want to write something yourself that contains YOUR opinion I would be happy to read it.
Hey Bob, I use to be in the steel worker's union.
"The thought of that woman being Vice-President and a heartbeat away from the Presidency scares me."
Palin has indeed energized people and I know I am not the only one who has decided to so our best to prevent our fear from coming true. I will proudly wear a "Hillery Supporter for OBAMA" button as I campaign even if I have to make one myself!
Obama/Biden in 2008!
If you want to write something yourself that contains YOUR opinion I would be happy to read it.
I'd say you need to remove yourself from a few groups then, Lori.........
So I will say you are not guilty of spamming. And I agree if you dont want group emails quit the group.
Bye Berf.
But I guess that's what happens when you hate mass e-mail and you're dumb enough to join a group that allows mass e-mail...............
Lets see a comment was made up above that those that support Palin would still support her no matter what comes out about her, or at least something along these lines... My answer to this, is sounds like the Bammy cult members... No matter what comes up about Bammy, they still support him... So I guess turn about is fair play.....lol
And since Nanina above thinks that women will vote for Palin just because she's a woman, I say that some people will vote for Obama just because he's black. And some women will vote for him just because he is pro-choice.
I am voting for McCain but I also like Palin. I see a lot to admire in both of them.
Evidence so far shows that Palin isn't drawing a lot of support outside of the republican base. The ploy might have been to snag Hillary supporters but the only thing Palin and Hillary share is the same chromosome.
Yes, I heard that on the radio. And I say, "Thank goodness for that!" But I also say that's not completely true. They're both intelligent, ambitious, strong women.
The coming weeks should be interesting.
Yes, the alternative has problems, but I honestly do not care if I disliked Barack Obama, he gets my vote regardless.
All this garbage in the media is boring and pointless, there is just no alternative unless you are just deluding yourself.
To half of you on here, I am evil because (in spite of the fact that I don't believe palin is even remotely qualified for C-in-C) I am going to vote McCain.
To half of you on here anyone voting for Obama is stupid, naive and disillusioned.
I am sick of it. K-E-O, Binky, Kerrel & Rory; you're still my friends but I am tired of arguing politics.
Let everyone who can legally vote, vote & who wins, wins - let's stand behind them.
To Bruce I am going to use a portion of your thought; all this garbage on Gather is pretty boring and pointless.
I can't wait until we are arguing over cats vs dogs, and what movie sucks or book to read again... ;-)